Carson Hocevar & Kyle Larson

0:00As a parent, you're always trying to teach your kids lessons that'll stick and learning how to manage money is definitely one of them. Whether it's birthday money from grandma or finally getting paid for cleaning their room, those little moments are a great chance to start building smart money habits. That's why I like cash app. Now offers managed accounts for kids ages 6-12 that grow with them all the way to adulthood with no subscription fees. If you're ready to start teaching money habits without adding any more stress to your plate, download cash app and set up a managed account for your child today. For a limited time, new cash app app customers who are parents can use our exclusive referral code, Family 10 to earn $10. Download cash app, enter the referral code in your profile, send $5 to a friend within 14 days and you will receive $10. Terms apply. The app is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking service is provided by CashApps bank partners.

1:00Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, member FDIC CashApp, VisaDebateFlexCards issued by Sutton Bank, member FDIC and the bankcorp bank in a. Pursuit to a license from VisaUSA Incorporated. See turns and conditions for the Sutton prepaid card, Sutton DebateFlexCard and bankcorp debit flex card. Savings and offers provided by CashApp a block incorporated brand. Parents and legal gardens can open a managed account for kids 6-12. Visit cash.app-legal-slash-podcast for full disclosures. Welcome to Kevin Harvick's Happy Art, presented by NASCAR on Fox. I'm Caitlin Vincey, joined by Mom Bismuth in the house. Great to see you. We got a special episode on tap today by the way. I'm excited for this. Yeah, yeah. No, it's for media day. So we sat down with a couple drivers. Well, all of them really. All of them. This one is with Carson Hulsavar as one of them and Lazy German. I know you want me to ask the hard-hated question. So I did. I found out for you what his relationship status is. Well, we had to clarify that up. What else did he talk about? Just how much he loves the fans.

2:01What is pleases McFarland? His influence and some of his other bodies. So it's really cool. So we caught up with Carson Hulsavar, but the fans will also hear from Kyle Larson today because we got to talk to him about the Knoxville Nationals and what it's like racing with his kids and how well they've been doing following in his footsteps. So there's a really good conversation with all of the drivers. So we hope you enjoy the interviews. Take a listen. Well, I love that Carson's already giving you fashion advice to do and don't. Well, it's because now we have someone in his life that's giving him fashion advice. So it always pulls up. No, I just never seen anything like that. And you said you're a classic guy off camera and I'm like sense what? I didn't do that. I didn't do that. It's always been a classic, right? Classic, you know. Yeah, that's you. You just stay in the news. Do you enjoy that? Just constantly. Yeah, it's funny. I'm not even trying to. And I'm like, shoot, OK. It's all right. I guess somehow I'm still relevant, I guess.

3:02Is it as entertaining for you as it is for us? Yeah, it's really funny to me. I find it enjoyable. I remember Martin's in the spring. I got wrecked running like 17th. And that's all anybody wanted to talk about. I was like, I got wrecked running like, OK. I remember I was running on 12th and we did a wave around. I got like full throttle. And that was all anybody want to talk about was like me getting wrecked. I was like, somehow, even on like a bad day, I'm, they're talking about me. I guess. That's a good problem to have. Yeah. Well, I mean, I look at his boy, Cletus. You know, Cletus is a lot of the same way. I think you guys, you guys are, have a growing relationship. Yeah. And I think that it's really fun that he is on that is similar to him that's actually in the space doing it at a high level. And he's trying to figure out what his path is. And you guys are kind of meeting the middle all that stuff. Yeah, it's been fun. You know, I have a lot of friends that just have fun for a living and, you know, do it with a camera and stuff. And I'm just, you know, I get to race race cars for a living. And that's fun for me.

4:02But, you know, Monday through Friday, I got to find something to do. So we've been, been enjoying finding something. Yeah, plenty of things to do. Yeah, what are the main things you want to be doing when you're doing it? What are you doing? Well, the day before a Tallahdegah, we bought 500 other cars and raced them on my buddies dirt bike track. Yeah. And we drove about eight hours or whatever to Tallahdegah, then we were one. And so that was fun. And, you know, now we have a bunch of ideas we want to do and find a bunch of stuff, building properties. And, um, yeah, I mean, just trying to make a, I texted a restaurant about it. I was like, you know, with, because I was like, I have an idea that I wanted to do at my property. And, uh, he's like, you know, talking about properties and stuff in his land, you know, a restaurant of land and clear season. And the restaurant was like, what, what are you building? I was like, pretty much your land, but with four wheels, because I can't do two. Right. That's fair. Yeah. And, um, I think that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to do a Facebook marketplace deal. Like what are some of the people's reactions when it's like you that shows up to make this, uh, eventual purchase? Yeah. I mean, I just bought a few eight hundred R cars for like some, you know, for challenges.

5:04All my buddies are doing it. Uh, the guy was a fan and, you know, wanted a picture and hung out and, um, he's like, I got more cars and, you know, I'll just come bring him. And I was like, yeah, thank you. I said, yeah, thank you. You know, back in back in Michigan, we have a mutual friend to me, a rat that, that we wrapped his, his Dale truck form. When you go back home, like those people did, it's nuts. I've been around when you've been back home and the fan base is just insane. Oh, yeah. I mean, especially when clearest race, Dave is it, we had from, we were, we were opposite ends of pit road and it was full. And the line never stopped because half of people were for clearest, half of people for me. But when they were done with both of us, they would just swap. They would just run a circle and then they would be there to go to clearest and then to me. So, um, but yeah, I mean, everybody, you know, they're same guy that walks in the pit area and has the same shirts that I was 12 years old. You know, he'd buy the same program, same things and, you know, come down and he's got, you

6:07know, his little bags and stuff doing the same things since the first day I race there. It's going to be cool for you though. I was like, I remember first covering you obviously in the Crashing Truck series and that was just a few years ago. And now when you look at your fan base and how many eyes you're bringing to the sport, I imagine that's got to be like kind of a cool feeling to know that you're contributing to that. Yeah, I've enjoyed it. It's been a lot of fun for, for me. And, you know, I have Jeff Degersen who's as, you know, aggressive as they get and allowed as they get and as funny as they get. And I think he's having fun with it as well and we laughed about all the time and stuff. So I got the perfect boss to really just let me go wild. Well, we're in this interview situation. So I might as well ask the real question that everyone wants to know. What is Carson Hulsavars relationship status? Is it single? Is it complicated? What are we doing? Where's going on? I don't know. No, I mean, time was the maybe the coolest person I've ever met.

7:13So we've just enjoyed hanging out with each other and we went to Disney World with all my friends and stuff and we literally our whole friend group keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And I think I had like 50 people on VIP passes and the whole Shabang on Daytona and everything. So yeah, I mean, it just got so many friends that are in the industry that I never thought I would meet and everything like, you know, guy grew up watching Alex Ernest, he's in LA and like he's going to come to some rate. He went to Talladega. His first ever race was Talladega and we won there and he thought it was super fun and stuff. So and then Brady, he was with these don't complete this and everybody, you know, our friend group keeps getting bigger. That's awesome. I have to say I really appreciated the makeup video as a female. I appreciate it. I would love to help her at all. Okay, that's what I was getting. She figured out all of that. No, her dad got her in the NASCAR. So she's always been kind of interested in it. Oh, no. But she was very detailed. Like I was very impressed with the amount of like research.

8:13No, I kept asking her what she was going to say. She told me the idea and she didn't want to tell me because I think she was hoping that she did a really good job on her own. That's cool. So she did a great job. In case anyone's wondering the status is, it is what it is. Yeah, just look at what it is. Put that up. And Carson, if there was another athlete or another character on TV or a movie or whatever that could depict your driving style, who would that person be, think? Who embodies Carson, who's a car? Cold trickle. Cold trickle. Cold trickle. Probably. It's lost stuff in one super speedy race. He's thought about this before. Yeah, but I mean, that's the one that everybody remembers. Are you excited about the movie? Yeah, I'm excited. It's been fun. I've known about it for pretty much since they first started writing it and stuff. And the coolest compliment was, I've been working with Will, the writer, and adding things, and doing everything, and trying to help them out. That's me.

9:14Yeah, he's like, yeah, Tom was reference at some, and he was trying to explain it. He didn't know 100% how to explain it. So he just said, like Carson, how's the bar? In this written down, I was like, that's the coolest thing I've ever heard. That's very cool. I'm going to frame that text. Yeah. So will you attend some of the filming you think and be like, I mean, I think they're going to, I would assume they would film it like at track similar to that. So, you know, people, hopefully I'm in the background of something. He's like a consultant. It sounds like for the film, essentially. All right. If you don't like it, you can just blame Carson. Yeah. Go ahead. They would anyway. I'm going to do that. What do you feel like you've learned about yourself as a competitor this season, specifically? I don't know. I've just had a lot of fun. Like it's, you know, there's so much has happened this year that I remember watching, you know, they show me a clip from like a pit stop and the spring in Darlington. And it felt like that was two years ago. Yeah. It's just so much has happened, like traveling, doing everything and racing a lot, but like

10:15we've just done a lot. So it's been fun to just really enjoy that. There's so many memories I have this year that's been enjoyable. And we've ran really good too while doing all that. That's right. And one thing I find interesting about you, it was, I think, mentioned several months ago that you do all of your own social media yourself. And it's always very well put together content. I would say it's a creative music to fit the photos. Why did you think it was important to you to just have it be strictly you doing it and your own thoughts and ideas? Well, I mean, I didn't want to look like it, you know, dumb. Like, you know, like you have somebody else doing it and like, you just see it and you're like, no, I would like if I just saw it and like they wrote that caption of like, ah, you know, guys, we did it today or you know, all the caption looked the same from every week. I was like, that just looks dumb. Like, I would never say that. And then so I just don't do it.

11:16I just don't want to do it. So and then I think, you know, if I was a fan, I'm much rather here and man, we suck today, so we're going to try again next time with that versus, you know, man, we had a great car and we did this and we did that, you know, it's no, you've seen it all. It's the same thing over and over. When you're a career is done, what do you hope that people say? Like when they think of Carson, how far what do you want to be connected with? I don't think just miss me. Like they miss watching or miss, you know, hearing from me or whatever, like, you know, you know, people beg to see Carl back or Casey or some of these guys that show up here and there and, you know, hopefully they, you know, you know, there's some nostalgic there, something I don't know. That's fair. It's like cool. We've been asking the drivers to describe their driving style and one word or several if you need it.

12:17What would you say? Shit. He's either a one word or like 18. Yeah. I don't know. That's just I would just, you know, it's aggressive and we'll see what happens. But, no, I think for me, like I, you know, tried it, you know, if there's a 1% shot of something working, I think it's worth it. You know, you go for it. He's still trying to swing at it. So people go for a lottery, you know, by lottery tickets every day and for a lot less odds than 1%. So that's a very point. That's a very point. When you do look at anybody and think that there's a rivalry between you and them, because the way the way the media us look at it, it's carcin' wholesome of our versus the world. But is there anyone, and I know you don't look at that like that, but is there anyone that you like, yeah, that one, when I race with that one, it does, it changes a little bit. And probably time, like if you had to pick somebody like the way we race in trucks, like we

13:18all, we both do really similar things and make it really hard on each other. So, yeah, I mean, that one seems like it's been the most fun to... You find that fun? Yeah, I think it's good. It looked fun and indie. Yeah, it was fun. I enjoyed it. Well, we get to enjoy that rivalry for a long time. I really do. It's Gary and I'm in you. Obviously, the merch sales was a big topic recently about yours, leading the charge. Do you feel like you're kind of carrying... Seems like you're kind of carrying the sport on your back right now. I mean, I don't know. No, I enjoy it. I thought that was super cool though. Like I wasn't really expecting that. Okay. And, you know, we have a corner in a merch tray that has like five other teams. And we were like fifth at ATTRAC. That's what I was most shocked about. I was like, I can't believe... Like, some of these guys have 20, the 30 options in a trailer. Like, for me, you maybe like six. So I was shocked at that. But, you know, it just continues to keep growing and everything.

14:18And, yeah, it's been a lot of fun for me. You know, you can see that you can do the eye test or the... You know, who makes the most noise, but, you know, that kind of stat is really kind of a way to track where you're at. Yeah, I thought that was really fun. Even Jimmy Johnson said that. Even sales don't lie. Oh, yes. I appreciate that. If Carson Holtzbar and the 77 team is a NASCAR Cupids champion, if what happens? I don't know. I don't know. It'd be funny just to see the rest of the garage's reactions, honestly. Sadness. Every funny thing we breathe by. I don't know if it'll be this year, but hopefully it's some year. That's right. Well, we appreciate the time. We have enjoyed watching all of your adventures on an authorized track. We're wishing you the best luck. Thank you. Thank you. As a parent, you're always trying to teach your kids lessons that'll stick and learning how to manage money is definitely one of them. Whether it's birthday money from grandma or finally getting paid for cleaning their room,

15:22those little moments are a great chance to start building smart money habits. That's why I like Cash App. Now offers managed accounts for kids ages 6 to 12 that grow with them all the way to adulthood with no subscription fees. If you're ready to start teaching money habits without adding any more stress to your plate, download Cash App and set up a managed account for your child today. For a limited time, new Cash App app customers who are parents can use our exclusive referral code, Family 10 to earn $10. Good Cash App. Enter the referral code in your profile. Send $5 to a friend within 14 days and you will receive $10. Terms apply. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking service is provided by Cash App's bank partners. Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, member FDIC Cash App, Visa Debit Flex Cards issued by Sutton Bank, member FDIC and the bank corporate bank in a. Pursuit to a license from Visa USA Incorporated. See turns and conditions for the Sutton Prepaid Card Sutton Debit Flex Card and Bank Corp Debit Flex Card.

16:23Savings and offers provided by Cash App a block incorporated brand. Fans and legal gardens can open a managed account for kids 6-12. Visit cash.app slash legal slash podcast for full disclosures. This Friday, return to feeders for a ventures endgame encore. I know I said no surprises. I can't really hold any pull off one last one. Reassemble the team. Sixth on. Three teams. One shot. Relive the experience. In that short time, time tends to mess back. The story continues. Tell me this is the second case. Don't miss. Marvel Studios. A ventures endgame encore early in the previous Friday. Get to get to now. We need to get to their team. Maybe an appropriate for children at 13. Go to the latest. Go to my corners. Go to the next stage. I'm going to stand in the burning. So I have not seen you since your amazing Knoxville National Suite. I want to go back to that because it was incredible what you did. True. Yeah, when you reflect back on that, how special is that achievement in your career? Well, I mean, I've achieved winning in Knoxville National before.

17:24So like on that side of things, it's great. It's the biggest race of the season and the sprint cars. But it's like, I know that I could do it because I've done it before. But when you think of the circumstance of how that whole night transpired, in me not even thinking that I was going to get to race in Knoxville to ultimately getting to and then go in there and executing and winning is really neat. I think it's something that I'll reflect back on further down my career and appreciate it even more. But it's neat because I think it's something that fans and stuff we'll talk about for long time. Amazing. It was nuts. Yeah. I think the thing about that that I thought about the most is you're in the middle of the race, right? You're doing your job, right? And you're running decent. I guess I'm a good day. Maybe a lap down. Yeah, you're fine. But your team on the back end, the team, now they're not thinking about Knoxville, right? You get in there. But they're working. They're thinking the background to get it done, right?

18:24And they get it done. And then you get the fun. So that must just really just let you know how much they care about you and how much believe they're having you not only doing this, but being able to go to that. I don't think anyone has that out. No. Yeah, I think that's what, and I kind of knew it and recognized it all along. But like really, you know, appreciated it afterwards because, you know, Cliff. Yeah. You know, or you'd think that he would not be the type to like, man, like, Colby, the PR guy, I think he said he gave him a note like, hey, this is what's going on in Knoxville. And Cliffs response was like, it's fucking go, you know? And, and then he's talking to me about it on the radio where you, anybody would think about Clif Dan was being like, you know what, the cup race is going on right now. We will deal with that BS when this is over. But this is what our focus is on right now. And I completely appreciate that. I would also understand that and expected that. But for, yeah, him to understand how big of a race that Knoxville Nationals is and how

19:31important it is to me and to everybody on our team is pretty amazing. So not only him, but Jeff Andrews and everybody Rick, Jeff Gordon, like they all have a piece in it. So no, that was, that was neat and something that all, I think I'll remember the like of those moments better than even the, the win and the finish that rich. Yeah. In 500 double one thing, Knoxville, Knoxville, Richmond, double, we didn't know we needed. Yeah. Well, I think it was unexpected. It was unexpected. Which kind of made it nice? Because instead of all this huge build up to, you know, it's so much better. So much better. I know a documentary crew. Yeah. You know, the indie and old bag. Well, now, but they're, the cameras were waiting when you landed. This was hysterical because I heard you say like, oh, I thought that only happened for like Taylor's swim. Someone like that. They're just following you around. It was really neat to see that for sure. I think too about the High Limit series. Obviously that you're a part of. We've gotten kind of into that more. Obviously with some of our programming with Fox and Speed and seeing it really come into its own in the last, I guess, four years.

20:31It's been now. What's that been like for you? Because you guys just kind of started this on your own. Yeah. No, it's, it's grown really quickly and been a lot of fun to see it grow. Cause, you know, Brad and I along with Float Racing, like we have such a huge passion for spring car racing and they've always had like thoughts and ideas on what could grow the sport. And I feel like all of us together with the team of people that we have at High Limit have done a phenomenal job to grow it into what it is today with exciting racing, exciting events, keeping it, you know, quick running programs for the fans and kids that are there introducing the franchise system and having teams like Spire Motorsports involve. James Brisco now, like, I mean, it's not like you're there for us to join our series. They have other, there's another series that they could join if they wanted to, but they believe in what we believe in. So all that's been great. Crowds have continued to grow, viewerships continue to grow. So all that's been really rewarding and yeah, just continue to see where the future goes.

21:34That's going and then, you know, Caitlin's playing Super Mom with the kids while they're racing all over the place. There was a point where I was like, I don't know if his kids are going to, going to really race tonight. It seemed like, like, Owen was about it and then kind of out of it. And then it was like hard to tell, which does it, which is fine either way, but watching them, the three of them run around together, but those Aubrey, Audrey and Owen started to see it find the success and enjoyment. That's kind of being a hold up and level for you. Yeah. No, it's been enjoyable for me. Like, obviously, you're going to, your kids are probably going to have fun, do whatever. But if Caitlin's not enjoying it, they are not going to be able to go do it. Right. Right. That's what's been like, his made me feel good is that she's like bought in and having fun with it. Maybe she might some weekends rather stay home, but like she's really into it. We have our own team now this year and hired a couple guys and she's like super involved in it. And yeah, it's just been fun. Like today, after we're done with all this, we're going to go to Illinois and get to spend the week there.

22:34Oh, well. Yeah, they'll be racing. So yeah, it's all fun. I got to interview Caitlin about it a few weeks ago. And like she was just saying the differences of watching your husband race versus your kids, but how equally stressful it is for both. I'm curious what it's like for you kind of what I mean, it's all you know, I guess. So it's not that different for you, maybe. Yeah. I don't know. She's a girl. So you guys got the emotions. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. This is true. We don't have emotions. Like all of you know, own, have a flip or something and all like, you know, FaceTime and she's like, can you talk? She's about to cry like, yeah, crying about it. That's your baby. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. That was not bad. I know. So I just like laid back with it. Yeah. But no, but she, I mean, she's got like that emotion to it. But also she's like intense on the kids too. So yeah, it's good. It's fun. She's great. She's a better coach than I am. She said you're really good actually. Well, I think she like we're a good, good coach.

23:36I found it interesting. Definitely. Yeah. Do you know exactly where I am from? I know, I know, I know, I know. There's also some that. Right. I know how I amSound awesome hum uma. So, when you look at the tall son of Bang, it doesn't show us any reality. Does yourvee, or your white father's thinking about using it as a marriage cake and form? And also when that. She has a 겁 mille. Well, if you know what I mean. Yeah, Ch 솪, I've never said something like aye, one-and-one, the best thing is how do you tell that? So things are not transparent. or several depending on how you feel. Perfect. Uh, I don't know. I think I feel like I'm aggressive. For sure, I think that'd be the easy word to point to. Um, fast, sometimes overly aggressive and overly fast. There's the hood. There's a couple. Yeah, I mean, you can kind of tie it all into. Yeah. Yeah, I think it is. Um, is there like another athlete that you see, or a character in a movie or a TV show that you've seen, like the way they do their job, I can relate,

24:38because that's how I do my job. Like, is it someone that depicts kind of how you do? Yeah, it's a good question. Um, I don't know. I don't get too wrapped up in like what other people are doing, I guess. Yeah. But I'm not like also searching for it either. So I don't know. I just think I appreciate kind of when athletes like open themselves up to let you get a glimpse into what their routine might look like. And everybody's routines a little bit differently, but you can maybe take some things from people. But, um, yeah, and then just kind of also just more so here and people talk about their mindsets. And I can't like pick out a certain person, but yeah, because I, again, I think you just take bits and pieces of what you hear from others. But yeah, just how I think what's interesting is how people's mindsets are all athletes, anyways, or mostly similar between different sports. So in the way you approach prep and execution and discipline and all that. You mentioned watching other athletes. I'll share this with you. I obviously interview a lot of the drivers in the lower series,

25:40whether it's from the trucks and Arca and things like that. So many of them tell me that you are the driver that they watch that they want to emulate that they learn from. So, you can take that. What you will. You'll learn. Watching you. We are wishing you the best of luck in the chase. Thanks so much for being here and good luck to you. Thank you. Let's be experienced. We met through time. Time attends to mess back. The story continues. Tony, this is the second chance. Don't miss Marvel Studios. Avengers, endgame, encore, early theaters Friday.

26:41Get to get to know. Ready to be their team. Maybe in a corporate for children at 13.