
Deep Dive • Project Superman (03) Was Andy Pero A Super Soldier?
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So Andy wakes up in a hotel room and doctor Peritso is there, and he's aggressively questioning him again about his steroid use. But he's not entirely clear why this money is so obsessed with steroids because he's apparently he's an orthopedic surgeon. And if we remember he was doing secret experiments and using Andy as his like he's sort of yardstick essentially so that his own son he could sort of track his quality DNA. But unfortunately it was wrong because he assumed that Andy was Italian. It's bullshit, it's absolute bullshit. But anyway, Andy goes on to explain to this doctor that he grows his muscles with mind control with the silver mind control method and literally just
wills his muscles. He envisages them becoming bigger and when he comes out of trance they are bigger. And he continues, I hear the psychologist yelling at doctor Peritso and you want to give this kid a lobotomy. I could make a fucking career out of this kid. He said something like I was the greatest psychophysiological example that I had the greatest autogenic abilities that he's ever seen or something like that. The or something like that is in brackets like because you know like despite being fucking devastatingly cool. And he is also quite humble. That reminds me of you trying to pronounce the genominic album you were like, like that psychosocial thing, something like that. Yeah, that's pretty much as far as I got with it. But he also used a term something like psycho neuro immunology if that makes any sense. It doesn't. Anyway, he then tells me to be
over my hand and he starts to place objects in them. Oh god, this has all got a bit of G. M. Savile. He tells me that I'm holding a banana and he wants me to crush it. Well, each to their own I suppose. I squeeze the banana and I feel it squish like a banana. I hear everyone start murmuring in disbelief. I have no idea what they placed in my hand, which I do know it sure as hell wasn't a banana. And that's that's impressive isn't it? That's it's not often in sort of a spine novel that you get the word banana four or five times in one sentence, but Andy Pierre-Ein managed it. It turns out that this doctor Perizo has given him a potentially lethal dose of sodium pentathol. And the plan was basically this is used as like a truth serum. Whether as to it's sort of practical use in real life, it's debated. But in sort of spine novels, it's the thing that gets people to talk. And the plan was apparently to get Andy to confess to
taking steroids because if he had confessed to taking steroids, then nobody would have been cross with Dr. Perizo and this mysterious psychologist for kidnapping and drugging a child, which is essentially what Andy is. I think he's what 18 at this time I forget. Dr. Perizo offers to basically because they're also into panic a bit now. It's like what you've given him this lethal dose of sodium pentathol. He might die. Oh my god, what's what what will we do? And Dr. Perizo has a solution of sorts. What he offers to do is to basically div Andy a lobotomy turn him into a brain dead person so that he has no way of telling people, which is you know it doesn't make any sense to do because they they like worried that he's going to die. And his suggestion is, well, what if I just put an ice pick through his eye into his brain? You know, I mean, I say it out loud now and I think actually like how many times that's been the
solution. It's just good, you know, it's just one of those sort of universal things, isn't it? Now, anyway, the wife, the sexy wife, she says, no, don't give him a lobotomy, no, don't give him a lobotomy, that's ridiculous. And the other question is, why did they care? Why do they care this much if Andy's taking steroids or not? Like apparently he's doing a thesis on it, but is his thesis really that important? As we've discussed, there's no way any reputable university would take a thesis where it's like, and who is this test subject? Oh, this was a labored boy that I was spying on. It doesn't go down well in academia. So, so whatever, the kidnap this kid, they've essentially intimated that they're going to give him lured sex and then they drug and interrogate him before considering lobotomizing or possibly murdering this lad because he might have done a course of dianna ball or something like that.
It all seems a little bit over the top to be quite honest and a little bit incoherent and a little bit made up, but who am I to argue? So anyway, the psychologist hypnotizes him with a ball on a string and he wakes up at home and they basically forget the lethal overdose of sodium pantholid, it all sort of just works out. But a few days later, he remembers being in a hotel with psychologists and crushing things with his bare hands, like showing superhuman strength. And it's clear that the experimentation that the the psychologist and Dr. Perizo were doing and continuing to do on Andy were deadly, deadly serious because a couple of nights later, after he ran all of his tests, it was then that Dr. Perizo's turn took place. And so like finally Dr. Perizo, this kid called him causing him a lot of like upset, like it's damaged his thesis, he's sort of embarrassed him,
well, he was interrogating him naked in front of people from the school, it's a complex relationship. And so now Dr. Perizo gets the chance to have a bit of revenge. He makes me act like a monkey and try and lick myself. I remember jumping around the room, stretching like a monkey and feeling very stupid as they laughed at me. And then he made me act like a chicken and he does many other things to humiliate me. This goes on for hours. So sorry, let's pretend for a second that this is real. Like when they turn him over to whoever it is that they work for and they explain what they've been doing with him. It's like, so how was the test of the yeah, yeah, not bad. We did have a bit of a cagey bit where we nearly killed him with Sonya and Panthathal births, other than that, it's been pretty good. So if you do anything weird, I mean, define weird. I mean, I mean, I did make him, I made him act like a monkey for hours and
you know, lick himself and stuff, you know, shit like that. That's all right, isn't it? I mean, that's a standard hypnotist show to me. Well, yeah, I suppose. Like, well, it is. It's the sort of thing you can say to you, isn't it? Like it, but it's like, they're anticipating that they might be a bigger picture going on behind the scenes. And it's just nice to know that the illuminati or whoever it is takes time out to have a bit of fun. Is it? They make me an onion and it tastes like an apple. Probably stuff like that. He didn't even think it was an onion. Fuck me. The potential for this super soldier is incredible. If we could think of a scenario where eating several onions like their apples can confound the enemy, then I really think we're on to something here. But I don't want to spoil the later chapters, so I'm not going into that. But then this happens, Brent. And this is something that I, I've had to read this about three or
four times, right? Okay. And I hate Andy Pierrot for this. This is to my mind, the most exaggerated example of, oh, no, I have a girlfriend, but she goes to another school that I've ever heard in my entire life. Now, you remember the Turner diaries. Remember how basically like the sexy was two sentences? Like this book doesn't have that problem. This book is far more open with its emotion, shall we say. And it does start to go a little bit, 50 shades of gray. Super soldier, erotic. Super soldier erotic. Yeah, damn straight. So, and oh, God, Andy Pierrot. Come on. So it cannot be worse than the RFK junior stuff that we were going over in twats.
It's quite, well, I'll just sit back, prepare yourself, like get comfortable because this is happening. So Andy ends up that the woman basically remembers that the women, like they're absolutely insatiable for him, is completely resistible. And he remembers basically like this. So this is at the same time. So after they've spent, after the men have spent hours making him at like a monkey and whatnot, finally, the women who are in the room tell the men to get out because they now want to have their fun with me. The woman with a black hair now comes over to me. She says a few words to me. I don't know what they were, but all of a sudden I get a feeling like I've never felt before. I felt like an animal, territorial, like a primal beast. I got up and started walking around the hotel room, pacing back and forth. My muscles are all pumped up. My arms all muscled and out to the
side and my chest is fully expanded as I strut around the room. I'm lucky to defend my lair against any male who comes near. If I see another male, I will kill him. As I look over to one of the beds, the woman in the black hair is naked and on her hands and knees. She has her back arch and is waving her butt around like she is some bitching heat. I see her and get an instant direction. I walk over to her, rip off my shorts and start, excuse the term, fucking this shit out of her. I pick her up like she's a five-year-old and just start wailing on her and wailing on her. First question, why the fuck would you wail on a five-year-old? And second question, just why? Why does Andy Pirro need the world to know that he has the ability to fuck their shit out of hot women? It continues. I felt like a primal animal. I thought I was some
sort of beast from the Stone Age and she was loving every minute of it. I wasn't reaching climax. I was just nailing the shit out of this woman. It wasn't pleasure I was feeling. It was more of a territorial act if that makes any sense. Oh yeah, yeah, that makes absolutely it sense. Andy thanks for clarifying. After a while I pulled out and literally tossed her aside. When I saw Mrs. Perizo sitting naked in a chair in the corner masturbating as she watched me nail her friend. They have a very close relationship apparently, these friends. I grab her by the hair and I throw on to the bed and repeat the same procedure with Mrs. Perizo. This went on for hours as the women had been fucked them in different positions in their vagina, in their anus, carrying out every sick fantasy they had. I would do whatever they told me to do to them. I'm fucking the woman with a black hair in the chair in the corner. It's so hard that she's passed down. I didn't care. I just kept on right and just kept right on going until I heard voices coming
from behind me. Male voices. I hear what the fuck are you girls doing? And then I hear Mr. Perizo say Mrs. Perizo say well what did you think we were going to do with him? I don't know. I thought you were going to make him act like a chicken or something. I pull out of the woman with a black hair and toss her onto the floor. I turn and see Dr. Perizo and a few other men by the door without thinking I reach down and grab the chair by the leg with my left hand. I stand up and grab the other leg with my other hand and rip the chair apart like breaking a wishbone. It was like the chair was made out of toothpicks or something because it took no effort to talk. I just ripped it apart and now how you had a chair leg in my left hand and I tossed the rest of the chair off to the side. I start walking towards the men with my club, my weapon. It's not only for that. That's just a scene. Mrs. Perizo becomes frantic and starts yelling he will kill you. Get out now. He will kill you to Dr. Perizo and she runs towards me to give the men time to get out. I push her
aside and the men are screwing out of the door. They left in such a hurry that they didn't close the door. I wasn't running towards them just walking very fast. When they left I didn't go after them. I just wanted them out of my lair. I slammed the door closed, lock and chain it and toss my club aside and grab Mrs. Perizo and toss her onto the bed. I remember feeling anger. She was disobedient and I nailed her again as hard as I could until she passed out too. Then the woman with the black hair comes over again. She's woke up and this goes on and on. I don't know how he ended but the next thing I know is I'm laying on my front steps again and again my car is parked on the street and not in my drive. Right. Now I don't know about you but the immediate thing that springs to my mind is how long would those men sat in the other room in awkward silence listening to the sounds of this wild orgy going on before one of them said,
should we perhaps check on your wife and why did they all go? Didn't he say he said hours, right? Yeah. Like what do they they're setting the what did you think we were doing with them? I don't know. I thought you'd make him act like a chicken or something. This man does not know his wife. The other thing I was thinking during this though was maybe we got it wrong about the presidential model. Well, the presidential model is actually young hot muscular boys. Well, well that's certainly what Andy seems to be saying. What's interesting though is that I've just spotted this when we go back over this now. He hasn't started his mind control programming yet. How did they turn him into this sexy, like, you know, fuck monster or whatever? Like, I mean the women did it. Mrs. Perixote did it.
She's just the. They said something's triggering to them. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But how? Where the fuck did she learn to do this? Who is she? I mean, she's just like, oh, well, whatever. But anyway, so over the next few weeks, I'd find myself stopping out the same spot about once a week. Don't go there then. Don't go there. I don't know why, but sometimes I would just pull the car over. And the next thing I know is I'm back in the hotel room this time. There are four women. Mrs. Mr. Perixote. Mrs. Perixote. He's actually Mr. Perixote here. Mrs. Mr. which would be interesting. Mrs. Perixote, the woman with a black hair and two others that I've never seen before. And this again begs the question, like, what sort of a relationship do these women have? How would you even approach that conversation? Like, is this what girls talk about when they go to the toilet and pairs together? They arrange
orges with like hot muscular young teenagers. That must be it. That must be why they, you know, they object to to men going in there and try to listen in. It's the only thing that makes sense. I mean, but again, like, you know, these two new women, are they part of the mind control program or they're just like women that they know from like bridge club or whatever? Like, hi Sandra, how you been? Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we'll listen. Like, if you're free this week, we've got this this body builder. He's got the mind of a simple turn, but he's got the sexual appetite of a mountain gorilla. Jalitan, I have been getting smashed out of our minds by this great big hymn, though. And well, you know, if you're free, maybe you, maybe you can even ask Margaret if she's free because she's having a hell of a time at the minute. Would you like to involve yourself in this debauchery? Yes, it is illegal. Yes, yeah. Technically is a child. Yes, yes, we will all have to be naked in the same room in front of each other. And we will have to watch
each other engaging in animalistic sex acts. Well, if any of you're the men's owner, I feel just most likely killed in my suppose. All right, then, well, I'll put you down as a strong maybe then. All right, then, look to John and the kids. Like, do these conversations happen? I don't know. Anyway, he's back. I remember feeling like an animal again. I was pounding one of the women against the headboard. And I hear voices behind me this time. There are at least 10 people watching. I see two of the women that I already had sex with on their knees, giving a blowjob to one of the men. I think it was the husband of the woman that I was scaring at the time. Oh my god, it's just like it's it is. Like, they were absolutely right. It's wife's hopping in a witchcraft. That's what goes on in these suburban places. These sick people are now getting off watching these screw their wives. And again, I throw the woman I am scaring aside and go after the man.
And again, the women run interference so the man can get out of the door. I wake up and I'm trying to get into the house. How the fuck do you have a conversation with the man? Yeah, you can have an origin. Yeah, what do you say? Why stop it? Absolutely. You need to avoid Andrew though because he will kill you. If he sees you, he will kill you. No, no, no, no. Seriously, he will kill you. Yes, you will have to be naked. Yes, technically it's illegal. Yes. All right. Anyway, love to Jane and the kids. So anyway, another time, everything is black. And I remember, and all I remember is hearing, God dammit, he's gone soft again. I struggled to open my eyes and I'm laying on my back. And there's a woman on top of me. She was a bit heavier than the other two and not quite as good looking. I push her off me as I try and get up. And as I'm coming round, immediately the woman with a black hair comes over to me and tells me to look at her in the eyes to focus and to look at her. I remember looking at her and after that, it is all black again. This time,
I wake up in the back seat of my car, which is parked on the street in front of my house. And I think that the important thing is that throughout all of this, Andy has managed to maintain his core misogyny, which is, you know, at least he's hung onto something. The important takeaways is that despite none of the guys at school knowing this, Andy was having lots and lots of sex. And he's very cool. And he only had sex with a slightly heavier woman because he was drugged because, you know, he certainly wouldn't do that. Otherwise, he could definitely pull better women than you is the main bullet points to take away from this portion of the seminar. So despite being set on going to Penn State, Andy, for some reason, keeps getting letters inviting him to West Point Naval Academy for a physical. Now, West Point Naval Academy is actually
a military facility and not as I had initially assumed a school dedicated to examining people's midriffs. Dr. Perizo comes to my house, rings the bell and tells me he wants to speak with me out on the street. He proceeds to tell me that he has made a great mistake. And after rechecking my DNA pattern against the correct hereditary background, it turns out that I am the one with a superior DNA code. Oh, who would have thought? In fact, he says, we used your code to determine dominance for some unknown markers. A few days after that, Dr. Perizo shows up again. And he tells me to walk with him to the street. He tells me that he's been discussing it with the psychologist and that my mind functions in such a way in the subconscious that he can make me the most powerful man in the world. He then tells me to go and get into his car. He wants to take me to his office to do this. And I say, really? I'll go. But only if my mother comes with me,
can my mother come with me? He says that this is just between us men. And I tell him to go fuck himself and start walking towards my house. He starts talking. You're a very smart kid. You had a 50-50 chance. We were going to get drunk and they've decided whether to make you the most powerful man in the world or give you a lobotomy. Because that's the sort of decision that needs to be made by drunk. I start and turns him and say, do you really think, actually, it says, do you really think I'm going to believe you when you tell me that you are going to make me the most powerful man in the world? You might do this. But only if you could control me. If you could not control me, then you would have to destroy me. Do you think I'm stupid? Now get the fuck out of here before I call the cops. And he then says, you're one smart kid and he gets in his car and he drives away. So I'm confused at this point, right? Because I thought he was in this program because of his parents. That's why he went to the strange school. They were doing the favor for his dad.
Who are these military men that have been following for ages? Who the fuck is this doctor Perizo Falei? Like, like, seriously? Yeah. Like, it doesn't actually make any sense. But hey, how? So that's chapter one. Yeah, feels like they scouted him because of his parents being in the military and then kept an eye on him as he went through high school. But then there's all the doctors discovered with a technique that we must remember. Doesn't exist. But he has super ad DNA. So again, yet another example of where Andy is just the best at things without people realizing it. But hey, hey. So chapter two. Despite being offered a scholarship at Penn State for some reason, his father refuses him to let him go there and threatens to cut him off completely and never speak to him again unless he goes to Rochester University. And he did actually go
to Rochester University. So, you know, but the only reason he didn't go to Penn State, prestigious Penn State was because for some reason his father threatened him. I remember this as clear as day because after that I remember I swore that I would never let anyone tell me what to do with my life again. The strange thing is that's not how he remembers it at all. He denies ever saying that to me. But I remember specifically because I was heartbroken that I wasn't going to Penn State. The strange thing is that I remember my father at about the same time making a joke that even though he'd been out of the Navy for 15 years, for some reason they wanted him to come in and give him a physical. But he doesn't remember saying that either. And I put opinion that because that might might be a bit of a pattern. Andy joins the football team, the American football team, and his roommate is also on the team and he's a huge guy named Brian who does steroids apparently.
I get an odd message stating that the Dean of the Psychology Department wants to see me. So, I go to see him. I sit in the high back green leather chair and I am facing him as he is sitting under the big desk. He asks me if I would like to participate in some kind of special study that the university is conducting. It's a minefield isn't it? Because everybody approaching Andy sounds like they're trying to seduce him and a majority of them aren't. They're trying to get him into mine control programs, whether he was disappointed or not. It doesn't really explain. But anyway, I tell him, have you ever heard of a doctor Perizo and his face and this is the Dean of the Psychology Department remember? Suddenly becomes white and expressionist. I could tell that he had and at that moment I hear a very slight creek from behind my left shoulder. I get out of the chair and there's a small door on the wall. I open it and inside this closet the Dean has a wet bar
but there, crouching on the floor is Dr. Perizo. I instantly grammy by the throw and I tell him that if I ever see him again I'm going to kill him. He starts to beg for his life and I throw him into the bar. I walk over to the Dean's desk and from the bottom I pick it up and flip it over and I yell something at him like you stay away from me you lying fucking piece of shit and I run out of the cupboard. Why exactly was Dr. Perizo hiding in the cupboard? Like what did he need to hear that could have been explained to him afterwards? Why are you see there? He's a fucking orthopedic surgeon anyway never mind. A few days after that I get a third message from him telling me that if I don't come to see him he's going to throw me out of the school. That's not something that you would have the power to do but never mind. I'm saying to myself fuck this but Brian is into that's his roommate is insisting that I go dude he's going to throw you out of school and do whatever you says
fuck you I tell Brian I decide to go in and give this asshole a piece of my mind. As I walk to his office I'm furious and I'm going to kick his ass. I remember walking in but I don't remember leaving. After that I was a different person I felt like I had blinders on tunnel vision. I remember people that thought I was the biggest asshole because they would say hello to me as I'd walk to class and I would walk right by them like they weren't even there. I was off in my own little world oblivious to my surroundings but you must you must realize that he wasn't an asshole or socially awkward he was actually secretly extremely cool and doing all the sex on hot women so whatever you remember about him from this time at university you're wrong. Andy gets really nervous around this room that he sort of discovers in the university which is labeled room 101. Although sometimes it's labeled as the janitors office and people will tell you that there is no
room well in I1 at this university there's just a janitors office but Andy remembers it being room 101. Looking back and trying to piece all of this together this is what I believe happened either on my second visit to the dean's office or at some point after they somehow hypnotized me. I can't remember exactly where or when but I believe that they instructed me to go to that particular room room 101 at a certain time on a certain day every week and I would just go without thinking or knowing anything about it. This is where all the initial groundwork programming hypnotic suggestion or brainwashing or whatever you want to call it took place. So again so like how did those women manage to sort of like turn them into that like sex athlete like nevermind. I say this because after visiting the room I started having these memory flashes like a five-septicellip of a 10-minute moving. In the room I'm delaying there we discuss my silver mine control as well as many other
things. The instructor instructs me how to go to my level and then he would begin his work implanting the various different ideas suggesting that they were researching with my reactions and responses. For some reason the library also gives me the creeps. And this started me thinking like obviously they room 101 is a reference to 1984 and you know the room where all your worst fears come true. But something struck me about room 101 is that not only is it the place where all your worst fears come true but as it's labeled room 101 it's on the first floor and this will require an undignified trek up some fucking stairs before you even get in there to begin being tortured. That is just crushing. Anyway in this room 101 they use his silver mine control to have him imagine a healing pool where he can recover from any injury. So what he did that big pool he
gets in it lies in there floating around basically and miraculously heals himself. Now I don't want to make it seem like I am in any way attempting to discredit the substance of Andy's story. Heaven's know. But I will just mention that this healing pool in many ways called to mind the swimming pool in the 1985 film Cocoon which was extremely well known at the time and in fact spawned a sequel like in the film in the case people haven't seen it the pool the pool in question had aliens alien eggs essentially in it and it allowed people to rejuvenate even to the point of deaging and it could in all reasonable terms be described as a healing pool which is a bizarre quirk of fate that Andrew also encountered one. There are other suggestions as well of course like telling me how to turn on and turn off my pain receptors like a light switch how to control my adrenaline glands
and how to be able to turn them on and off like a fussy how to control fear. I also remember them testing me a lot with these puzzle blocks I had to assemble and match the pictures connect the top the dot connect the dots for time word association all kinds of these mine puzzle IQ testing type puzzles and that is what I remember from room 101. The small lab I remember being tied to a metal table and then placing so this is poorly written the small lab I remember being tied to a metal table and then placing electrodes on my body they began to shock me at different different intervals and increase the voltage when I would cooperate with them that's obviously supposed to be cooperate the thing is these incident bastards kept asking me why are you so hostile towards us why are you fighting us and my answers would always be if you think I'll bust our now just wait until I get at least you nuts you motherfuckers I tried better my best to be brave and I
thought back with all I had when I came to I found myself tied to a chair with my hands tied behind me the began working the over I now I had to be drugged because the punches for some reason didn't hurt they always wore gloves or hit me with rubber hoses so as to not leave any marks and the more they hit me the more it didn't hurt there's also a metal cart next to me with all kinds of surgical instruments on it that all kinds of syringes on there as well this is also why I assume that they drugged me I remember then placing needles in my eyeballs and also in my ear drum in order to shock me into submission they beat me in a small room several times I remember Mr. Green was there this Nazi guy and his buddies now I am the last person that would want to wish to make light of such an obviously horrific and genuinely real situation but some people may have noticed certain similarities to the comic book character Captain America now Captain America is Stephen Steve Rogers
born in 1920s to an impoverished family on the Lower East side of New York City oh this fellow Newfound Rogers attempts to join the US Army in order to fight in the Second World War but he's he rejected after being deemed unfit for military service so his resolve is nevertheless noticed by the military and is recruited as the first test subject for project rebirth now this is a secret government program that seeks to create super soldiers through the development of a super soldier serum though the serum successfully enhances Rogers to the peak of human physical perfection there's this Nazi spy posing as a military observer who destroys all the remaining supply of this serum and assassinated this inventor which basically falls plans to produce additional super soldiers but Rogers is given a pay a traffic uniform or a shield by the American government and becomes the costume superhero Captain America so the super soldier serum which is injected greatly enhanced Captain America's strength his speed his agility his endurance
his reflexes his reaction time and his natural self healing ability additionally he's a mass detactition and field commander and a master of numerous forms of martial arts now in it basically there's this guy called Heinz Krueger Heinz Krueger is a Nazi spy who assassinates Averyam Erskine who's the inventor of the super soldier serum and destroys all the rest of the supply in Captain America the first Avenger so he operates as an undercover operative for Hydra and Nazi Germany and he infiltrates the secret Brooklyn facility where Steve Rogers undergoes his transformation immediately after the successfully experiment Krueger shoots Dr. Erskine and detonates it explosive to destroy the lab's equipment and the remaining files of the serum so there's this obvious comparisons already to to Captain America which obviously was a popular comic the time and there's there's going to be some there again that are going to be apparent as the
story goes on and he continues I know there are Nazis because I have a very keen eye when judging people and this guy just didn't seem to be an American Jiu-Jitsu Jiu-Jitsu he was the guy in charge hang on I knew he was a Nazi because I have a keen eye when judging people and he's just dripped with Nazis and I could just tell that he had extremely far right political ideology by the way he looked to be fair he could have I don't know he could have had a swastika tattooed on his forehead or something he was the guy in charge and he ordered another guy to come over and to start to work on me the guy that came up started beating me and I made rude comments about his attire he was wearing a yellow short sleeve shirt in Rochester New York after Labor Day so I start sassing him about his shirt and how only two types of people were wearing yellow short sleeve shirt in Rochester either he is a homosexual or he's a foreigner who's trying to look American it's one of the basic slip ups that spies make a fashion blunder and he was probably German because Germans
like their pastors that along with a psychotic look in his eye that told me he was some sort of type of master race genetic freak he's still again good to see that Andy has retained his healthy sense of homophobia there like there's some things that you just can't take away from him but he could be both or he could be neither like how the fuckers andies like an 18 year old student got a knowledge of spycraft and Germans I don't wish to be rude but most Americans that like of that age probably haven't been abroad and like wouldn't be interested in like that's the thing I could tell by your pastel shirt that you were not from round here like he grew up in Munich didn't he? yes he did actually yeah good point maybe that's it maybe he just recognizes the German can you spot a German from like 200 yards?
yeah maybe maybe not today but like in the 90s I could have maybe done it well if you know if they were in later homes and I suppose like but if not yeah but sometimes you do look at people and you're like oh they're from this place or you look like your Dutch or you look like you're something maybe you know I mean those yeah potentially yeah maybe who knows they they continue beating Andy up and he feels no pain because you know obviously he's crushingly cool so the Nazi goes and gets a baseball bat whether it was a baseball bat that they just have in the laboratory whether he brought it within whether he had to go out to his car to get it whether he goes to the shop and buys one which is not entirely clear so he goes over to get a baseball bat off the metal shelf and he's going to hit me with it
that's when I really feared for my life and I pulled at my ropes with all my strength somehow I broke free was fed to few seconds getting the ropes off and everyone seems to be in shock that I broke out of the chair and they all sort of stood around I go after the Nazi who's been beating me and who had the bat I feel literally that I'm fighting for my life until this day I don't know where I got the strength but they all jumped on me and I flung them off me like they were five rounds I got the guy with the bat punched him once he dropped the bat I picked him up and struck him twice in the head whilst his head was pressed against the table basically crushing his skull I started swinging the bat and I hit two other guys in the head with the bat and I saw lots of blood coming from their head as they lay on the floor then they all were chained over to me at once and they're trying to pin me down but they cannot and I managed to get over to the only window in the room I throw it open I'm about to leap out and I see where I am I look out and it's straight down at
least a hundred feet so two things to take from that one and he's killed three people and two I threw them around like a five-year-old what is this weird obsession he's got with five-year-olds and how easily they can be flung around the place it does seem a bit a bit odd you're not going to believe this oh no Andy and I know that it sounds crazy until now Andy go on but I am in the top of the library looking down at the ball field I know it was the library first from the from the view and second from the shape of the room one side was almost rounded and now with the view there is only one place it could be and that is the top of the library sorry this is very badly written I knocked out several more guys but then there was just too many of them and eventually they got me down and stuck a needle in my butt and I was out they get you'd think they'd figure this out and just have somebody stood ready next to his is asked with a needle in case it all went wrong
to just you know knocking out but I suppose it's a learning process for them as well they gave me several beatings and several electric shock sessions there then all I remember the sessions that's all I remember the sessions they were trying to break me but I wouldn't let them so the beatings continued at night I remember telling my roommate the next morning that I felt like my face had been hit by a truck but I had no idea why my face was hurting I thought he felt no pain what's a bit of an error there isn't it but thank heavens that he can remember the specifics of him being a cool super soldier we're extremely fortunate that he recalls it in such a cinematic manner hey it's Kelly Rowland you may not know this but I have Xima so I get how it can still your time
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