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In this series, Jeff & Andy dive into a mix of useless facts, myths, forgotten stories, and strange truths.
Jeff Stanfield shares some facts the voyage of the Mayflower and the struggle the Pilgrims had after they landed, and Andy shares facts that sound fake but are 100% true.
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The Big Honker Podcast — 🚨 DID YOU KNOW? 🚨The Mayflower. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.
Here we go. Three, two, one. Boom! And welcome to the Big Hunker Podcast. Did you know? Brought to you by our good friends over at Cedar Run Decoy. Check them out at cedarrundecoy.com to order those Christmas presents. I know it sounds really weird in September, but it's just right around the corner. The early bird gets the worm. Yep. What they say. So they're going to sell out a decoyce. I'm telling you during all this stuff they've got, sell out on being able to get it out to you. So you need to order it pretty quick. I'd say you can't dick around till Thanksgiving. You need to get it out. No, hell, you're not even going to get it. The turnaround time. He's got him hand makes these things, people. So I mean, you're getting a hand-crafted hand-carved hand-painted decoy. And if you wait until Thanksgiving when the normal people are shopping, you're going to be SOL. So here we go today. We're going to talk about something else. Today, if you showed up in November off of Cape Cod with no outdoor wildlife experience at all,
and you had to survive, because in November of 1620, that's what the Mayflyer was at. Yeah. The Mayflyer docked in Cape Cod Harbor. November of 1620 during the last thing they called the Little Ice Age. Yes. Very cold time. And those people didn't have any fishing poles. They had some guns, and they had to try to survive. Yeah. Be difficult. They made friends with some Indians. And one of the things that helped them, this is the key to our country. One of the things are our country. I mean, it's funny when you grow up, all you hear about is Christ for Columbus. Well, he never even came to the United States. No, and he thought he was in India. Yes. Or Asia. And that's why he made it to Asia, because that's going to be part of my, did you know? That's why he called them the Indians, because he thought they were free. West Indies. Yeah. So the Mayflyer comes to America. They escaped their church.
They had been run out of England, and they'd went to Holland. And Holland had been under the leadership of Spain. And Spain was okay with them trying to leave the English church. But there was a freight. England was getting back in with Holland, and they were desperate need. They left Holland in the middle of the night, or England in the middle of the night, went to Holland, and they left Holland, and they came to the United States. They were supposed to be two ships, the Speedwell and the Mayflyer. The Speedwell had some leaks in it, and it went back. And they think that was all a made-up deal, because the people owned it didn't think they could survive. They got scared. They stuck for, they stayed for a month, because they had to have good wins to get them over there. They had to wait for the right, hard, hard East winds, and it took a month before they got their wins. And they left, they didn't get to Cape Cod until 1620. When did they leave? They left in October. October? But they were going to try to leave in August. Right. The original time was to leave in August, and kept getting pushback, pushback, they had a boat leak.
They got across there. They started leaving, and they got into a big storm. The first 10 to 15 days was pretty easy. It's about a 60-hour trip, normally. So they leave to go across, they get halfway, and they get some big storms in the middle of the North Atlantic. The mast breaks on the deal, and luckily a guy that was on there had bought a jack screw. I do not know what a jack screw is, but it kept the mast together where they could fix it, and they could keep going. They say, pull into the Cape Cod off of Plymouth Rock, and they stay on the boat for three or four days. They finally go up there, they're hungry. They'd already lost about half the people already. No, no, no, excuse me. They'd lost a couple of people already at this point. They go on shore, and they meet the Indians. One of the blessings was, is one of them was Squanto. Squanto had been taken as a slave from an earlier English group had landed there in 1610, and they took him back to England and made him a slave, but they taught him English.
He learned English real well, they let him go back to be a scout. He got back to America, stayed with the Indians, he wouldn't go back to England. Who knows you for using that correctly? What does that say? I thought you were going to say, he learned English real good. That would have been, you said, well, that's good. That's grammatically correct. It would have been, I'm like your mom calling me out, so plotly is to make me look like a fool. No, but if you would have said he learned English good, then who's the second language learner here? Well, you did good there. Well, I'm not good at grammar. Gold star. So anyways, he went into the, he helped these settlers. They didn't hardly have any food. They had some pork, they had no food. They had a little bit of, a little bit of rations left, but not much. The Indians told him about corn, they didn't even know what corn was. Right. So they planted all their crops, they survived the first winter, it was really harsh. A lot of them stayed on the boat by the time the Nick Spring rolled around. They had only about half the people alive.
That's crazy. Half the people died. So they started building their huts and stuff. Now they did have some building ability experience from when they lived in England. But it was all raw forest, but they couldn't survive like the Indians did. So they built them huts, they planted their first gardens that Nick Spring, got through Spring, and then they had our first Thanksgiving. But the ability of what they went through to be there was absolutely amazing how tough it was for them to be, to think about being on that ship and coming over here was absolutely amazing for the history of our country. Because that was the first white man that really interacted with the Indians, it didn't have a bad situation and they worked together. So this is kind of a brief deal. The Mayfly was an English square rigged merchant sailing ship active from around 1609 to 1622. She was 180, she had 180 tons and she was 110 feet long and 25 feet in the beam with several decks.
They said each passenger had an area of the size of a twin bed. So there's 120 people sitting in 1600 square feet. I bet that place don't. You know it did. After 10 weeks at sea, the Mayfly with 102 passengers of a crew of about 30 reached what is today the United States, drop an anchor near the tip of Cape Cod Massachusetts on November 21st. Now it's cold November 21st and Boston, I promise you. The pilgrims often conflated with the Puritans, who sought separation from the church and pray privately. They believed the church's resistance to reform in its Roman Catholic past left it beyond redemption. Starting in 1608, a group of English families departed England for the Netherlands where they could worship freely. By 1620, the community resolved to cross Atlantic Ocean for America, which is considered a new promised land. The pilgrims had originally hoped to reach America by early October using two ships and a second arranged in the Voyage Speedwell,
which however proved unseen where the insol was left behind in England. The ensuing delays and complications restricted the pilgrims journey to a single ship, the Mayflyer. Now, you know they made a Mayflyer compact. No. They signed a tree a deal there. They set their own rules. Oh. And that was their own rules and their own laws. Their own government basically. And about three-fourths of them were dead in the ground within a year. They signed the compact. Local indigenous, we call them Indians, assisted the colonists together in food. But only half of the original pilgrims survived the first winter at Plymouth, fallen outbreak of disease. The following year, the survivors celebrated the colony's first fall harvest along with 90, Wampanoag people, an occasion cleared in centuries later, as the first American Thanksgiving. Is one of the earliest colonial vessels, Mayflyers, become a culture icon in the history of the United States. You know what ever happened to the Mayflyer? No. They sold her for scrap two years afterwards. I did see where they found Noah's Ark, they think. I did too. That's going to be interesting to see.
I don't know if it's because of the people that don't believe in God. I'm going to come up with that. Obviously something happened because almost every tradition has a flood story. So there was obviously something that happened with early May or a past civilization. So I don't think it would be written about that much. Had something significant not happened. There's so many tales and other religions that outline a similar story to Noah. Yes, something definitely happened for sure. It's going to be interesting if they dig it up. I don't know right now all I know is that they're like tunneling down and like sending for lack of a better word like robots drones. What was it at? Is it in Turkey? I can look it up. I'm not entirely sure, but I do know that they think that they found it. They are like drilling out cores and sending stuff down to look at it. But yeah, like every major news organization is reporting on this. So there's something to it.
That's an amazing thing if you think about it. Yeah. Anyway, go ahead. So anyways, back to the Mayflower. And this is why it's turning me into the living quarters for the 102 passengers were cramped. The living area was about 20 by 80 feet, 1600 square feet, and the ceiling was only five foot tall. The maximum possible space for each person would have been slightly less than the size of a modern day single bed. With couples and children's packed closely together to a trip lasting two months, a great deal of trust and confidence. And they didn't take any fish and poles. That's just what blows my mind. We're on a boat. Couldn't you catch some fish on the way to eat? Yeah, but don't you figure that? Oh, well, you can't go deep sea fishing. You can catch fish right off the top of the water. There's fish at shallow water in the deep. There's still fish up close. Oh, no. Plus like you've ever seen the tone of boats like you. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure they're also like you got to stop for that. Oh, sure. How do you do it while you're sailing? I think they're sailing a pretty good clip. Whatever the winds go. And some days they had dead seas. I just would have fought someone with a said, you know what? We had to bring some bait and some tackle here.
Did they have that a long time ago? They had fishing poles because they forgot that's one of the things about them as they left them there. The first half of the voyage, person. I'll give a pass on that. The first half of the voyage proceeded over calm seas and under pleasant skies. And the weather changed with continuous north-thrided sea storms and huge waves constantly crashing against the topside deck. And the midst of one storm, William button the young and a dintured servant of physician Samuel Fuller died. The sole fatality of the voyage, only one person died going over. Not bad. They had a baby that was born, Christian's oceanus hopkins. During another storm, the fierce sales could not be used. The ship was forced to drift with hoisting sales. They drifted for five days. They couldn't even put the sales up because it would have ripped them off of it. So they just ripped the mercy of wherever the wind took them to. They're lucky and no reason didn't hit. Well, they might have ended up on the coast quicker. Or sunk. They carried tools, foods, weapons and live animals, dogs, sheep, goats, pigs and poultry. Although no cattle or beasts of draft were burdened or abored.
The ship held two small boats powered by ors or sales. There were also artillery pieces aborted to feed the ship from enemy European forces or indigenous tribes. So anyways, that is the story of how America basically was born and how cold it was and miserable at that time. Tough-ass people. That is just an amazing group of people. I mean, it's crazy to think how tough those people, they went on, they went, one day they went into the beach. And they went to go do some exploring and a storm hit and they couldn't get back to the boat and they had to sleep all night. They didn't have any winter clothes. I don't think they were very well prepared for a lot of this. But can you imagine going to a country to a different land? Nothing? Nothing at all. And you don't even know what to expect. There's no 7-11 there. No, nothing. I mean, just, you've been up there before. Just pull up and here you are.
The world is yours, Chico. In the winter time. Yeah. I would have thought they did it better. They would have probably left about March and got over here about May. Sometimes you should have to get after it. Yep. So anyways, that's what my deal was, which is the Mayflower. And then the Mayflower ended up being sold for scraps. So the Noah's Ark, the alleged Noah's Ark is, I say alleged because they don't know if it is actually it, is in Turkey. It's in Eastern Turkey. So the electrical boat geological formation measuring roughly about 515 feet long, which matches the length of biblical art described in ancient text. Hold on. 515 feet. Yep. How many yards? 157 meters, which is close to an equivalent of a yard. Meter is almost a yard, roughly. So 150 yards? Roughly. So a football field in a half. Approximately. That's a big old boat to be making by hand. Yeah. Researchers and groups like Noah's Ark scans continue to conduct the radar and subsurface surveys at the location.
Main mainstream scientist regard this formation as a natural geological feature rather than the remains of an actual wooden vessel. We will find out. So the only thing that's probably going to be left there would be the screws and if they used any metal. And I don't know how did they have metal right there for the boats. Yeah, because they get I don't know if they did or not. That was before the Roman times even. Fix that picture behind you, please. Yeah, I don't know. Did you have one if you had like a Lincoln log type system? That's what I wonder if they'd treat it wood and just like tar and something like that. Maybe. I don't know what he did. I'm just trying to think if there's going to be anything left to have. Can you imagine if that wood's right there? Can you imagine how much coffee table out of reclaim no or could we cost? We'll talk about rich. Okay, we're just going to kind of have a smorgasbord here. I need to clear out some of the stuff that I have saved. So save this today. The real cost of living in the 1960s. Do you know how much the average home earned in 1960s?
The 1960s. Okay. I don't know what you're asking again now. How much of the average home earn per year? The income per family. In 1960? The 60s. I don't know what you just will go with 1960. $18,000. $6,000. Wow. That's it. You know how much monthly rent was if you were renting? At $6,000 a year. 10%, 50. $70. About. You know how much the average home cost? $18,000. $11,000 a year. A year? I'm sorry. $11,000. Yes. You know how much movie ticket was? In 25 cents. 50 cents. 50 cents. But, so well, no, this would be in the 40s. My grandfather said he could go to the moon. They actually had two theaters in small town Rochester. They had less than 500 people now. He could go for, he could take a dime down there.
Get into the movies. That would have been in the 50s. He could take a dime. Get into the movies and get a popcorn. And they'll have two cents to take home. So, about 50 cents. Disney Land tickets were $4.50 to $5.50. Well, they went up a little bit. They've gone up just a little bit. Average college tuition was about 100 to 500 per year, depending on where you went. Gas was 30 cents a gallon. Hold on, hold on, hold on. College tuition was $100 a year. Or to 500 a year, depending on where you went. So, if you went to a state college, it was $100 a year. And the average household was bringing in 6,000 a year. That's what I was just trying to do. The math and try to figure that out. Proportions? Yes. Gas was 30 cents a gallon. A new car range from about $2,500 to $3,000. So, that's the thing is now. You're not going to get very far in $6,000. But your house was only twice of what your income was. Whereas now it's five times. Yeah, ten times.
Yeah. And then, like you said, a new car, $2,500 out of six. A third of what you bring in. Now cars are... What you make a year. Yeah, basically. So, it's basically one for one. A tuition, you're coming out with a lot of debt. If you do want to go to Disneyland or whatever. I mean, you could graduate from a decent college. Yeah. In four years and have spent $500 for four years of college. Yeah. And in nowadays, you're looking at $150,000 in debt. 100,000 in debt? Oh, yeah, easily. Yeah, for sure. So, it was 10%. You could get a degree from college at about 10% of what your parents made in a year. Yeah. For four years of college. Yeah. Today, you're going to be getting out of what your parents... 100% of what your parents make. Yeah, it's screwed up. Okay. Do you know what states...
This is the average height across America. Do you know what quadrant of the United States has the tallest people? So, we're going regional? Yeah. I'm going to say the people that are probably Nordic. I'm going to say... I'm going to go to the Northeast. No. Northeast is mid. South-West. It's Midwest. Minnesota to Montana, those people. Wisconsin. Wisconsin tops out the average height of a Wisconsin male is 5'11". Minnesota is 5'11. Iowa is 6'0". Nebraska is 5'11". South Dakota and North Dakota are both 6'0". Montana, Wyoming and Idaho are 5'11". I knew that it would not be the Southwest because the Mexicans are not very tall. South-West is kind of mid-slightly shorter. 5'8 is in the Mexico.
5'9 is Arizona. 5'9 is Nevada. And 5'8 is California. Do you know where Texas is on this? Probably middle range, probably 5'10. 5'10. Yeah. 5'10. Kansas is also 5'10. Colorado, 5'10. Missouri, 5'10. Illinois, 5'10. Do you know where the shorter states are? There's three. The shortest states? Well, I would have messed up. I just said New Mexico and Arizona would have been the shortest states. And that's obviously not there. Florida? Florida is 5'8. So they only miss this threshold by an inch. Georgia's 5'8. South Carolina's 5'8. North Carolina's 5'8. Those are the shortest ones? Nope. There's three states that are shorter than that. They top out at 5'7. I wish Virginia, Virginia, and the Carolina. Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama are among the shortest average height states. I wonder why. I'm trying to think of ethnicity. What would be there?
I wonder if the Seminole Indian... Well, that would have been Florida too though. Yes, and Black people aren't that big. And on mass. It's crazy. It's crazy because that's the tallest people. So I was almost going to guess that would be the tallest people because of Black people. Nope. I'm assuming it's got something to do with the Indian tribe that was there back in the day. Maybe. I don't know. Okay. Some facts that sound made up but are totally true. There is a beetle with a defensive spray that smells exactly like green apple, jelly ranchers. Don't mess with him. Penguins shit with the fastest force of any animal. So we got explosive diarrhea all the time. Caesar salad is not an Italian dish. It is a Mexican dish made in on the thing I think in the Baja. Tijuana wasn't getting vented at crime is so low and jails are so empty in the Netherlands that they borrow inmates from other country so that their guards don't lose their job.
What means I get paid a lot from another country? Yeah, if it go be a prisoner in the Netherlands. I talked about this for George Washington, never knew dinosaur existed. There is a disease that turns all of your muscles into bone, not good for your heart. You know how many cows it takes for one year of footballs in the NFL? So that again now, how many cows does it take to make the leather to create enough footballs for one year in the NFL? Are they really using pig skins? It says cows. Okay. It says leather. You say cows are pigs. OK, cows. I'm going to say 212. 3,000 cows. Jesus. Takes 3,000 cows to make enough footballs for one NFL season. And going back to what you said, well, you're talking about the Mayflower. Do you know how America got its name? The United States of America.
How the word America. America. It's Indian word for something. Nope. Dutch word. Nope. Italian. There was a guy that sold pickles in Italy. His name was a Marigold Best Spucci. Best Spucci. He was also. What's the word? What do they call those people? Italians. No, like Columbus. An explorer. Oh, OK. Sorry, an explorer. He said that this group of this bunch of land is its own continent. It's not connected to Asia, which is what everybody thought. He said it is its own entity. It's going to it's a barrier. And lo and behold, it was right. So that is how America got its name. Pickle salesman. And then where I think we're going to call it good after that. I throw one in there. It's weird. I'll give you $20. OK. If you can guess which president ate this meal, OK?
OK. For breakfast, he would have cottage cheese with ketchup on it. I don't know. He should have never been elected. Richard Nixon. I thought God, he got it. He's got it. He's got it. He's got cheese and ketchup. I'm not a ketchup guy. I ketchup is only good for french fries. That's me. I'm the same way. I don't know what ketchup is. Anything else? I have a little bit on chili. And I don't mind. I like it on tamales. And the Mexican people hate that because I like ketchup on my tamales. Louisiana's hot sauce on tamales. But. And I like cottage cheese. I don't mind it. I don't want it with ketchup. My favorite way to have cottage cheese is on top of lasagna. The little cold with the hot lasagna. No. The cheese is good. No, thank you. No. No, thank you. All right. That's all I got. Thank you all for this, too. Go check out cedarundicoid.com. Jeff Stanfield with the world famous Andy Shaver. God bless you. Have a wonderful week. Be safe. Watch for it.
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