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Hour 3 Segment 1 
Tony starts the final hour of the show joined with Steve Yates of The Heritage Foundation to talk about President Donald Trump’s meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping.  

Hour 3 Segment 2 
Tony talks about Jacob Coxon, a former Anthropic researcher who quit because he said AI could destroy humanity, worked with a PR firm.  

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Tony continues his conversation with Steve Yates, talking about President Trump’s approach to handling China during the meeting.  

Hour 3 Segment 4 
Tony wraps up another edition of the show talking about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez teasing possible 2028 election runs and her concerns over voters.  

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Why from the heartland and the crossroads of America? It's Tony Kats today. So what do we think of Xi Jinping's trip to DC? I mean, there was pomp, there was circumstance, there was a dinner, there were fancy gowns and beautiful tuxes. It was a big love fest, but it's not a big love fest when it comes to China. It can't be trusted and every rational person knows this. But this is Trump being Trump. He's always going to say, you're my friend, you're my buddy, you're my pal, right up until the point where I'm going to put another 142% tariff on you. Tony Kats. Tony Kats today, good to be here, good to be with you. Stevie H. joins us right now. He is the host of nation states with the eights. Get the podcast wherever it is that you get your podcasts on your favorite podcast platform. He is also with the Heritage Foundation. He's got a very fancy title. Senior research fellow for China and National Security Policy over the Heritage Foundation.

You know, I, I'm not sure what the, you know, his speech was or any conversation had at the UN. That's not the part that I want to dig in with you. It is the overall presentation starting with from President Trump and the reception, meeting him on the tarmac, the fly over the took place, the dinner that took place in every tech CEO who could figure out how to be at the table was at the table for this, this meeting. So AI was a big part of this. Walk us through the first part, which is the pump circumstance, the greeting, uh, circumstances, the greeting of Xi Jinping. How did you take that? Well, it's always a bit of a combo with President Trump. I mean, it is frankly, to be honest, and with every president, they've, they've all been from Nixon forward. There's been this combination of rolling out the red carpet for Chinese leaders while also having massive national security challenges and unfair trade. Sometimes in past presidents, they promise that we're going to grow our way out of these

problems or somehow the, the invisible hand is going to make the Communist Party forget that it's communist in China. But with President Trump, he flourishes these, he loves, loves, loves these, this pop and circumstances, it's sort of his, his genre. So you expect these kinds of things. You have the president of what he experienced when he went to China. And we also have the president of what President Trump did in Alaska for Vladimir Putin. And so you have the red carpet, my good friend, and then you have the flyovers. And the flyovers include some of the aircraft that every one of these bad guys know went halfway around the world, dropped a bunch of ordinance and went all the way home before anyone knew anything had come from America. And so it's not so subtle thing. You could see in the body English that Xi Jinping, of course, doesn't have a soul and he has

no emotional response. But his wife was a little put off by the, the sight and sound of the demonstration. But to, you know, for her, then the first lady being extremely gracious person that we know, she takes the first lady of China and does some cultural kinds of things. And so all of this is sort of the form that you expect and the Trumps do it to the nines. And so that part doesn't surprise me. Some people are bothered by, oh, he went out to Andrews and that's rarely done. True, it's rarely done. One time a president did it, it was for the Pope and Xi Jinping is not the Pope. And so there's, there are elements of that, but the White House itself while it was talking about the president's good relationship with China and we're doing great with China. We're going to win on AI and all this other stuff. They also put out a checklist of here, all the things we're doing to push the malign influences of the CCP out of our sandbox.

And so there's, and there are several things that we've done from the border, catching them, trying to bring deadly pathogens into our country. There's still some follow up on COVID, although I think a lot of us are still saltier than our leaders sound with regard to what happened with COVID. And so the plate was full. There was no way any reasonable person is going to sit down and solve all these problems. And I don't think Xi Jinping came to make deals or solve problems. And so that, this was a management visit. That is my take. I don't think this was a visit of some great announcements. And because there were three subjects that I'm looking at here. And let's start with what's going on with Iran and going on with the Houthi rebels and the Mondebs straight. Because this trying to choke off of the Red Sea is more than just an oil conversation. This is a commerce conversation. Never mind a navigable seas conversation. This affects a lot of people so much so that the French have decided to answer the call

of the Saudis. I don't know why the Saudis can't take care of themselves and actually send naval assets over to try and not only just protect, first protect their Saudi oil needs, but also to put a little more pressure to try and get the Mondebs straight open. Has China shown any willingness now that they can't get sanctioned oil to be a part of this fight to put the Iranian regime down and get things back to quote unquote normal? I think the honest answer to that is they don't have the capability to do these things. It's one of the great facades in the world that we imagine that China is a global power with global capabilities. It is easy to wreck things. It is hard to solve things. They have the capability to cause problems worldwide. Hello, COVID. They can wreck markets, hello dumping in Europe with EVs and destroying name brands of entire countries. But they don't have the power projection to really solve things. It is also very much the case, as you point out, Mondeb, that is a choke point that profoundly

affects Europe more than Hormuz does. It really is the jugular for Europe and all of a sudden all the capabilities they didn't think they have magically. Oh, well, maybe we can dust off the two or three plane ships or whatever we've got to go try to help out here because it is genuinely vital. And of course, try to fit into this partly because it feeds the technology pipeline and it feeds the global market connection that has held up the Iranian borg that is genuinely evil and disruptive. And those tentacles are what is fueling the Houthis to be able to do what it does. So it's Chinese tech and enablement of the Iranians that then filters through those other tentacles that disrupts global markets that includes China. And so you would think if China is rational, they're paying dearly for this disruption in the Middle East. Someone would say, oh, it's America being disrupted and bogged down and we're losing and

all that narrative. And that's what it is is narrative. But for China, this is brass tax. And I think it's hurting them more, but it doesn't to get to your original question. It doesn't motivate them enough or they don't have the capability enough to say, Tehran, we're stopping you. This has to end. I think the capability part is very interesting talking to Steve Yates. He's a senior research fellow China, not security policy, further heritage foundation. And of course, nation states with Yates, YATES, find that podcast on your favorite podcast platform. We know that China isn't capable. They can steal technology. They can't create much. We know that when it comes to helping Iran outside of some satellite imagery, which they should be punished for, their weapons systems did nothing. And speaking of punishing China, this story about the F-35 strike fighter canopy, I brought it up to you before we started, is the single craziest thing I've ever heard that a piece

of the F-35 was being shipped from Australia to the United States via UPS. And the plane gets diverted to South Korea, then gets diverted to Hong Kong. China has our hardware, including the radar absorbing paint, and they're not giving it back. That, tell me that's not an act of war here, an act of desperation, maybe more going along your lines of China isn't, China is the paper tiger we all thought they were. Yeah, well, there are many layers to this stinking pile that is accumulated in this particular report. It is jaw dropping. People should go find this because it is really hard to believe. Just begin as just an average everyday citizen. And you have better fidelity tracking your Amazon package than apparently our personnel had in making sure that there was a safe pathway for what is sensitive material.

Now, make no bones about it. Two things are true at once. The F-35 is one of the most expensive things the United States government has done in a long time. And if you're even if it's not sensitive, it was darn expensive to make. Don't have any freebies for bad guys after spending all of that money. But in number two, the, they're not every part of it is dangerous and truly sensitive, but our adversaries want every part of it. It's sort of like what they do when they spy on us. They aggregate all information they get. And based on that data model, they can sort of make assumptions or guesses that get them darn close to the stuff that we're not sharing with them. And so even like you said, even just the paint were some of the parts details on just the pieces of this, that is gold to them in terms of intelligence collection and whatever it is they're trying to do with reverse engineering. And of course, they're keeping it just as sort of a recurring dream I have about when the EP3 aircraft was struck by a fighter pilot and our plane went down in high-nine island.

They kept our crew for 13 days. A hotline did not work. The Chinese didn't pick up the hotline when President Bush tried to use it. So we got the crew back, but the Chinese kept the plane. And so that was not necessarily new tech, but it was surveillance tech and they got all of what was left after our pilot miraculously landed on their territory. But how does anything like this end up in Hong Kong? And I guess the sad punctuation mark on this is another piece of evidence that Hong Kong is the people's Republic of China. People still want to play the game of, well, it's different than the rest of China. They can play that game while they want. We watch them. We watch the Hong Kongers, right? We watch them try and get there free. And we watch people like LeBron James say, I don't care if they get stepped on as long as I get paid. Talking to Steve Yates of the Heritage Foundation, heritage.org, and the podcast nation states, with Yates, this frustration with China, you have theft, which is constant and consistent.

You have the AI fight where it is very clear to me that they have been pushing the anti-AI sentiment in the United States, the anti-data sentiment in the United States. Their AI services like DeepSeek are so profoundly bad and backwards that they actually put queries into their AI, send them to hours to claw it into others to get answers and then push them back. This is madness, what's taking place. And then add on to all this, you brought up EVs and I'm really glad you did electric vehicles where we have a serious issue with Canada that they're willing to accept Chinese electric vehicles. We don't allow poll start operate anymore in the United States because it's part China owned. These are surveillance vehicles on wheels and we're allowing them all across Canada and what happens when they want to have passage into the United States. I believe we should say no to any Chinese vehicle. All of these things lead us to, they continue to act with impunity.

They may not have great weapon systems. That doesn't mean they're still not a threat. They act with impunity and we roll out the red carpet and we let them. Is there any argument that President Trump or that exists out there, I should say? That President Trump is willing to hit back and that if punched in the nose, China will win. Yeah, well, what you're expressing, Tony, I hear when I meet with friends in the media and with audiences all across the country, it is a deep frustration. It is not partisan. I hear it from people across the spectrum. People basically have gotten the brief of these are all the things that Chinese have done to encroach upon us, to violate us, to cause costs to be imposed on us. Some of those costs in the extreme and lives lost and some of it is jobs lost, some of it is technology stolen, but when you sum it all up, it's not fair to make it very, very simple. And people want our leaders, whether it's the president and the executive branch, but

also Congress and others to punch back. We have been punched in the gut in the face and we want them to punch back. And it's not about being mean either. It's just we don't want to be a sucker that's just standing here as a punching bag for an aggressor. And that's exactly what has been happening. So president Trump, that's one of the risks he runs in the style that he uses because the style is all friendship and we're doing everything is great. But underneath it, he's got a very strong set of tools the Treasury Secretary can and does use, but probably could do a little bit more. He's got the USTR and doing tough things with sanctions. They dial it up, they dial it down. Maybe it needs to dial back up after this next round of different kinds of talks. But people want to see some evidence that there's going to be pushback. And the Northern border is a problem in this. Fentanyl still comes across that Northern border. The cars, I completely agree, they are moving surveillance.

We were getting bent out of shape about a mystery balloon that went across our country and shot it down with a multi-million dollar missile. These cars are much more than that. The balloon was a simpler time. I mean, crazy but true. Stay right there. Stephen Yates, the Heritage Foundation Heritage.org in the podcast, nation states with Yates. Get that on your favorite podcast platform. I've got a lot more to get to you more with Stephen Yates is coming up. Keep it right here. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. Find everything at TonyCats.com. This is Matt Rogers from Los Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Los Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Okay. We've been talking about QB Mail for a minute now, Bowen. Wow. The feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of you all love this stuff. You're stopping us in the street going, I love QB. And if you're thinking, wait, what is QB? Do you not have the internet? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise. The one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle.

Once you know what, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic mail? Well, the answer? Egg yolks. QB is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles, chefs use it, restaurants use it, people who really love food and flavor use it. Whatever you're eating, QB hit. So if you haven't tried QB yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand QB, the original Japanese mayonnaise. So for all the AI doomers, you got played. You know what, that's really not the way to say it. For a lot of Americans who were told that AI was going to actually kill you and be destructive and you'll never survive, you got played. For the AI doomers, you got exposed. See, there's a difference there. Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, good to be with you.

You heard about this guy named Jacob Coxen. That's his name, COXO and you didn't know anything about the dude. All you heard was he worked at Anthropic, which is Claude and he worked at Chachi BT and he was out there saying that what's going to happen is that we're all going to die in 10 years. We're all going to be dead in 10 years because of the AI. It's going to kill us all. Write your wills, say goodbye to your kids. You know what, wills won't even matter. We're all going to be dead. And there were a lot of people who said we need, we need new legislation and why isn't Trump done this and they created a lot of fear and then you had what's his name, Dario, Amidai from Claude from Anthropics saying we need to slow the pace and we need government regulation. Well, of course you need government regulation. You want protection from competition. And that's when people like myself, some of you said this is an op. It's an op. It is what it is, what it is.

This is an op. We see it. We understand it. We are not buying into it. We're not. Oh my gosh, you don't understand. It has to be regulated. How can you regulate everything else? But not this, you'll regulate medicines. I don't mind that medicines go through testing. What they're talking about is stopping the production, the concepts, the production, the creation and before we get to the testing. That's what they're discussing. I never said we couldn't have rules. I never said that we shouldn't ask what we want out of AI as a matter of fact. I'm the guy who said specifically we need to ask what we want out of the AI. We need to ask these questions. What are we trying to get to? What are we trying to accomplish? What is it that we have concerns about and how do we ensure those concerns are met while still allowing for the growth because other nations like the Chinese are not stopping? And we can't stop.

And the stopping is foolhardy. It's why I'm opposed to all the anti-data center talk, all the anti-AI talk. It is simply about getting us to stop while they thrive, harming us, I'll have no part of it. Jacob Coxon told everybody that he was just a concerned citizen concerned about this technology. It turns out he works with a PR firm that represents a lot of the prominent AI, the safest as written by pirate wires. Which means he said he wasn't working with a third party when he made a statement, but he clearly was. He had a group with him. This is how they packaged it to be able to move this story. You got played. That's the easier way to say it. These people who want to scream that the data center is the worst thing that ever happened got played. Why? Because they wanted to get played. But for those of us who might have disagreements and look at this rationally, this was the

green new deal all over again. We're sea levels are going to rise. We'll all be dead in 10 years. The population will be cut in half. It'll be like Thanos and a snap. That of us read this immediately exactly for what it was. This is fear mongering nonsense horse crap. It's exactly what it was. It's exactly what it is. It shouldn't be denied. So let's go back to having rational conversations and paying no attention to the people saying no data centers ever get rid of all AI. I don't care if they're Gen Z Gen X rumors what have you they're wrong. This is here and we have to figure out how to work within it because if we give up the ghost, other nations won't and that will be to our downfall. This is Tony Catch today. So is there a problem with the way the President Trump deals with world leaders? Does President Trump put himself through his presentation, my friend here, my buddy here, my pal there?

Does he put himself in a position of weakness? That will keep him from engaging in levels of strength that might be needed and is that exactly what has happened regarding all the pop and circumstance involving the arrival of Xi Jinping from China. Tony Catch, Tony Catch today, good to be with you. Steven Yates is back with us from the Heritage Foundation Heritage dot org. He is their expert in China policy. Seeing a research fellow China national security policy, he is also the host of nation states with Yates, find that podcast on your favorite podcast platform. You know, you brought up President Trump and what we would call the glad hand. Right. Oh, my friend, we have such a good relationship. I got a lot of respect for him. At this stage of the game, anybody who doesn't understand that this is what Trump does. This is just his motorcycle rendai doesn't understand the man. If you take it seriously every time, it's foolhardy. I argued from the beginning going back 10 years ago for Trump, it's deeds not words.

It was said better by Selena Zito when she said you should take him seriously, not literally. That's the way to handle President Trump. When he does all this stuff, he did the same thing with North Korea, same thing here, same thing there. And he's totally what there he was giving out medals for the world's cup, Mark Carney, the prime minister of Canada's right next to him. And then three days later, it's tariffs like you wouldn't believe. So he's, we know that he's capable of doing this. But when we talk about China, the theft of AI, the theft of military secrets, the support of enemies like Iran, and we talk about where does the punishment come from? When does it come? My argument has been that China never mind being a military paper tiger, which I do believe to be true. They are on an economic precipice. I'm a believer that the population bomb is real, that they don't have the population that they say they have. There's no way birth rates can compare to that of India if you had a one child policy.

It's impossible. If you take a look at aging demographics, I forget the name of the person who first came up with this, I want to give them the credit. They have 1.3 billion people, let's say in 100 years, they may only have 500 million people. That's still more than us, but they can't keep up. They can't actually feed all the people they have. Their communism will collapse under its own weight. These populations dying out, they won't be able to manufacture and we can help exacerbate this by removing manufacturing from them, restoring things, whether it's here or moving things simply to be at norm or some other place. Maybe I'm wrong though. Maybe the economic way of taking out the Chinese aggressor isn't the best way to do it. Maybe there needs to be a different way, a more forceful way. What should be the tactic and is there a strategic situation that I have not considered, that doesn't have us engaging in any which way against China for all the theft?

Well, just as an analytical matter, I agree completely with a lot of what you put down as sort of the bill of particulars that make the case for why something more needs to be done and what the problems are inherent in their system. I think that is exactly true. I think broadly speaking, the United States needs to move in a different direction. What happens though, when you have this aircraft carrier that is the United States government, a world economy, intertwined supply chains, 50 years of bad bets on globalism and engagement with China and integration of them into our systems, it takes a lot of effort, risk, cost to make those changes. And we absolutely we can. We have so many advantages over them and we have so much resiliency built into the natural endowment our country has. But we have panicked people in our government and in our corporate boardrooms, stock markets

and elsewhere that make long term changes like that harder to do because the short term panic freezes people or they just resist and they are wealthier than you and I may be. And they have so that is the resistance built into the system. So we have pharmaceutical industry that has to get disengaged from over dependence on China. Yes. We have we have other critical supply chains. The rare earths gets talked about. I think we're actually making more progress on that people than people know. And then maybe the Chinese appreciate but that card disappears for them sooner than later. There are other areas but we have so we've we've lived in the in the Iran situation with what panic does. I'd say the price of oil right now is not a real price. It's not based on supply and demand. It is based on perception and panic. And but all of that times a million would happen given the integration with independency

upon the China market and China manufacturing base we have now. So I think the brief has come in people with a brain no we have to move. We have to change some kind of a crisis is going to hit where we'll have no choice. And some of that balancing has begun to occur. Some of the movement to Vietnam has occurred. What we're doing in the Western hemisphere is profound and it is the way as people might say because we would have labor markets we have resource endowments we have supply chains. That the powers in Europe the Middle East and Asia cannot disrupt. And weirdly it's it's Brazilian Canada outliers in that those are the things that give us the options. But the direction I think is a must because China is going to implode that way. It will come back. It's been around for thousands of years but it'll be the real China. It won't be the communist China. And that will have its own scary disruptive elements to it too.

But we don't really get a vote on this. It's going to happen in my view. And so we better prepare now. But there's to some level we have a vote on this talking to Steve Yates of the Heritage Foundation Heritage.org. He's the host of the podcast nation states with the Yates YATES be sure to get that on your favorite podcast platform. We do have some say in this. We do have a say in how we want to go about this. And certainly I do agree that the economic tactic is the safest tactic for us. It does back them more up into a corner and when someone's back to a corner they become certainly more dangerous, more sabre rattling, etc. But I argue that the removal of the economic creates more of an issue on the homestead for Xi Jinping. And he's now going to have to make the decision on whether or not he wants to be seen quite literally taking out his people to Adam and square style in the year 2026. But if I were to take a look at how this gets discussed in the press and I saw a couple

people doing this, including people I like. The US is behind the eight ball when it comes to China. China's got Trump over a barrel. I see this constantly and consistently. And it might, you know, to use a phrase of 20 years ago, it might sell papers. All right, maybe 25 years ago. I don't know where that's supposed to be true. I don't know why I'm supposed to believe that. And I don't know what the argument is. Your point of we have these things that are linked with China and to extricate ourselves from them when you talk about medical, right? We design the medicines they actually build, manufacture the medicines. It's wrong of us to have done, truly wrong of us to have done, but it will take time to extricate ourselves from this. The idea that somehow China has us over the barrel, we need China more than China needs us. We are losing this fight. China's just too strong. There are too many ways they can apply levers and pressures. What is that in any way on any level, a sound argument?

And if not, why does it continue to get levied? It basically is an argument based on inherent weakness. And I think it's intellectually weak. It's strategically deeply, deeply, deeply wrong. But it works for these people if you think of the way this game or this competition are playing out, where all the leverage that China has are scary and potentially deadly against us for some reason. And all the leverage we have just doesn't have any impact on China. Or in this competition, we aren't willing able to use any of our leverage and they are able to maximally use all of their leverage. And if you just think about it for a moment, that is a preposterous situation. It is a choice to go into an engagement with a bully or a thief and not defend yourself,

not push back. And that is the choice that all of those commentators are making. A lot of them have the letters PhD behind them. They might be people who have been commentators for a long time. They might have even served in government. But it is deeply, deeply wrong. And I just think back all the things that we were told cannot be done. And since the audience may know, I have picked aside, I am not a Democrat. But if I think back to what John F. Kennedy said of dream of things that never were and ask why not, that is a deeply American idea. And if you think of what was going through that period, it was a huge deal to get to the moon. We have rockets that land themselves now. And so their America provoked is an awesome and should be frightening thing to systems

like the Russians or the Chinese or anyone else for that matter. And it really comes down to, are we going to get snapped out of this dream that we have no leverage, we have no ability, we have no alternatives? Because we do. It might cost us. We might go through a period of shock, but we can and will always, as the American experience, get to that other side, it's just a matter of whether we're going to hit that sobriety checkpoint and adjust. So I think that's what Xi Jinping's game is, is to push us and take advantage of us and divide and conquer us to the point where we don't get that provocation. But Newt Gingrich was the one that sort of deeply embedded this idea in my mind. Back when he was running for president, he used World War II as one of those examples. Different times, different America, maybe. I think the fundamental is still true that if we get punched in the face like a 9-11, watch out. If we get the economic equivalent of that, watch out, all of a sudden we will adjust. But until that point, we have too many people that are just lazy and risk averse and they're

doing well enough that they won't take the risk for that change and the dependency occurs. Before I let you go, and I will let you go, Steve Yates, Nation States with the Yates, check out the podcast. As you brought up, and it's a tangent, you brought up Brazil and Canada. And really, you were kind of playing around the idea of our domination of the Western Hemisphere, our Trumps play on the Monroe Doctrine, and thwarting Russian Chinese Communist influence in the Western Hemisphere, which makes, of course, Cuba next. And you hear the State Department report regarding how Cuba has been trying to destabilize us for 50 years. The canal has to go, the anything regarding the Castro's has to fall. But specifically to Canada, is it time to rethink their ally status because in election after election, the Canadians have proven that they are more European than they are North American? Yeah, so maybe I would rather follow sort of a Chinese model in this and let's go ahead

and divide and conquer. Maybe the prairie provinces of Canada are our allies. Maybe the other kind of, if they want to talk about the EU or China, I mean, maybe British Columbia is China on this, on this continent. Maybe the French speaking parts of Canada are the EU. But that prairie province part of Canada has a lot of people who think and talk and act and are inherently more American than the rest of Canada is. Without them having to break apart, maybe we just have this compact with the provincial governments there and we maximize those influences. There are resources that are vital, food that is vital. And maybe if we find ways to empower them, they can shape the future direction of Canada and deeper ways. But I mean, the president likes playing around with the 51st state. I don't really want Canada to be our 51st state, but I think it's a fun game. But I take really, really seriously this divide and conquer notion and the conquer, I mean,

look, I don't really care about conquering Canada, but look, Greenland has chosen aside now. And so you've got the resources and geographical weight on the east and west of Canada that are profoundly a part of this experiment that's going to involve supply chains, is going to involve the sort of direction of future of the Arctic. What is Canada if it's not in that game? It should be taken, look at the fact it protected by the south, the west and the northeast and say they're the luckiest human beings that ever lived. I didn't even bring up Greenland with you, but Alberta and Saskatchewan, who wants to be our friend? I think that's what Steve Yates says right there. I like those Canadians. Steve, I didn't mean to leave you out, Manitoba. I apologize. Steve Yates. The Heritage Foundation Heritage.org. Nation Yates with States. Check out the podcast wherever it is you get your podcast. The more it's coming up, keep it right here, guys. This is Tony Katz today. This is Matt Rogers from Los Cultures. This is with Matt Rogers and Boan Yang.

This is Boan Yang from Los Cultures. This is Matt Rogers and Boan Yang. Okay, we've been talking about Cupid male for a minute now, Bo. And wow, the feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of y'all love this stuff. You're stopping us in the street going, I love Cupid. And if you're thinking, wait, what is Cupid? Do you not have the internet? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise. You want with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. Once you know what, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic mayo? Will the answer egg yolks? Cupid is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles. Chefs use it, restaurants use it. People who really love food and flavor use it. Whatever you're eating, Cupid. If you haven't tried Cupid yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand Cupid, the original Japanese mayonnaise. Thank goodness Representative Acacia Cortez is leaving all her options open.

So Congressman, it sounds like you're running for something. Are you running for president? I am running for re-election to be the Congressman to continue being the Congressman of 14th Congressional District here this year. And again, I think one dynamic that we are seeing emerge and that I am hearing from a lot of people is that there's a lot of outreach to persuadable voters, but there is worry about the democratic base and enthusiasm there. I can't believe she can actually do this. I'm counting like that. Tony Katz. Tony Katz today. Good to be with you. She can do this by the way. Do not deny what is possible. I know she's not bright, but since when does that matter when trying to get people to vote for you? Is that a no for the White House and the Senate? I mean, for this year, absolutely.

I mean, our next election is in November. 2020 is two years away. My focus is on this. Okay. It's not. Your focus is on running for president or running for Senate. And I argue the Senate's a shoe in. So go with that. But once the siren call of the White House is there, it's hard to shake. It is. And Democrats are just that nutty to vote for. I didn't think everything at TonyKoz." Calm Monday, everyone. Take care. You get all makeup! The whole land is marked on us. Only $5.99 is cold senior.

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