Eric Edholm has the Browns in the "Tankers" tier; is that fair?

0:00football talk coverage on the fan presented by Xfinity score the most reliable Wi-Fi one price five years guaranteed Xfinity imagine that p-futech coming up in just about 20 minutes time Nick Wilson, Jonathan Peterland back on the fan we are live from Dave and Busters here in West Lake we got we got some fans showing up here so that's been nice you're breathing heavy man why did okay we didn't that was that was out of pocket that was out of pocket breaking news bad man brings heavily after walking a short amount of time I want to give you a second didn't need a second I can talk for like five seconds and then you see I think this is helping this is helping right I think it's helping now you got it back and actually might not it you got it back it might only be upsetting me in a way that is going to make me have heart palpitations no no it's funny about it is that and I've had it before where you're you know you can do a slight jog before you get on the air and it just feels as if you just ran a marathon and it's it nothing to do with you being a heavier guy it's just the idea of if you exhaust yourself in the slightest way

1:00and then try to talk in the on the you know on air with a mic it just doesn't go the same listen I think it's a nice a nice attempt of you to go ahead and save that no it's true I don't think anyone's gonna believe that I'm not grossly obese and that was part of why I was off in a puffer yeah you're back on the fan that was that was there was asthma that wasn't obesity that would be the crazy hot scale is the asthma obesity scale yeah yeah we call it the Nick Wilson that's what we call that no which one balances out is the good neither neither no you got crazy crazy yeah what you're basically but that's okay that's all right hey we're happy we're gifted in another way a few tech college football news coming up in just about 20 minutes time but we are live here come on out and see us come on and hang out for a bit but Eric at home did his NFL tears yeah all right we have we have Mike sandows NFL tears which we also have to get to where there's some damning quotes there but Eric at home's NFL tears has the browns and the tankers tears and I do feel like will McAvoy from the newsroom

2:03yeah because I'm on a mission to civilize with this browns team I'm not saying the t-word will not become an eventuality at some point this season we already said it in this segment you can say it again I would have I don't want to say it again it's a filthy word you've already said it all right you know t-words I like I like trust can we go I like truth you're a truth broker you like true to Jake I like just out of the committee here to keep just break his own rule already with the not bringing up the tank and bringing up somebody's tanking tears you did say the word tank I did okay you brought up tanking tears I'm the hungarian one and you are the literal ones I don't know how that works earlier this week you referred to it as the t-word and now you're saying tanking tier well yes because the t-word means many things we're not the literal ones we're just trying to make sure that we keep you all back here you guys are being very when I appreciate I mean we use our about you can't make a declaration and then just not adhere to the declaration expect us to be like everything's okay so the intent of the declaration even it was shotally worded was that I will not advocate for tanking and I will not advocating I will not advocate for talking

3:07about NFL mock drafts if somebody else uses the t-word with the browns I will be forced to to engage and understand and then shoot down their use of the t-word so I thought you said no reference so you're the truth broke I thought it was no reference to it no I then we're talking about the spirit of the rule versus the language of the rule but the way different than what the spirit is yes I was a bad tweet I should have been more we can make an addendum to it if you want to right now I well but it's a little weird because I'm my pin tweet but the point is if you talk about tanking I will vigorously debate you because we are not on t-time yet all right all right all right we're just calling out that you've talked about t-time a lot so I am on the mission to civilize I argue you actually talk about it more since you banned yourself from talking taking I never banked myself I banned myself from advocating it we're talking about new ones here Peter I feel like there's a it's a self-fulfilling prophecy almost that's happening with you here no because in the end I'm saying they're not tanking and I don't know what the other tears were because this was

4:09you start to tanking yeah I as soon as I saw the T-word turn into the hole I was like that's not a T-word I like whoa does he have reasoning for why he put us in the tanking tears I don't know Jake read the article okay see the second I saw tanking I was like I'm not doing it you got so and I'm not doing I'm not reading this film up with the tanking tier at home so twin dead to and I'm not reading this film that's not the kind of content I take in classic Ed home if you ask me not the kind of feel if I take in thank you very much classic at home so do you agree well I don't know the other tears I wish I had another tear scale I could even put the bronze into what was the what was the second worst tier that isn't a tanking tier well obviously opening up to the idea the bronze might fall into the tanking tier they might that might be where you end up falling into is the tanking tier I don't think you start the season in the tanking tier though I really are throwing the teas in my face right and I'm fine with that I don't know why Nick because I don't believe the bronze in just about anything and I've made that abundantly clear I think you've gotten you kind of got the idea when people speak I just don't believe them I believe the

5:11Browns when they say they're trying to win games I do I don't know that they have a good enough team to win a lot of games but I believe that they believe they're trying to win a lot of games so the Browns are in the tanking tier the second lowest tier is work to do well that seems like a more respectable tier for us I feel like the work to do now that's a real place that feels like the right tier that we should be in so work to do to here he has the Buccaneer Steelers Vikings Colts Saints Panthers Giants Commanders and Falcons in the work to do tier yeah I mean some of those teams are obviously better than the Browns but not all of those teams and then the tankers are the Raiders Titans Jets Browns Cardinals Dolphins have we just lost the plot that's my phrase today with what tanking actually means well maybe we all just need a new re-education of the word tanking maybe that's what this is maybe you've lost the plot of the word tank and even within tank you know why how'd you flip that one on me there Cluso why I don't know I mean you said Eric at home doesn't know what tanking is I don't

6:12know maybe your definition of tanking isn't right maybe this is where some of these conversations are going a little haywire is that you have a stronger definition of the word tanking than everybody one he only has four tiers I mean those are rookie numbers if you gotta get you gotta get more tears but maybe that's why I mean for the longest time you do you get offended if people say the word tanking maybe it's because you look at tanking differently than everybody else well because it's harsher than everybody else is because I think tanking Nick I don't look at it as the worst thing in the world I will get as a strategy and I will get it as a we're obviously trying to get as best of a draft position as we possibly can but I don't look at it as this team is just worthless and meaningless and what are we doing tanking to me there's a score losing on purpose and so and I mean going into a season saying we want to win as few of games as powerful that is not what the Browns are doing and I think people are saying well the Browns aren't trying to win because of their quarterback room that doesn't mean they're not trying to compete and I'm not splitting here oh okay I am split it here but I think there's a lot of hairs to be split here I think tanking is what what the dolphins are doing

7:15where they strip their roster even a cut down day seven roster seven waiver claims they cut a few of the I mean everybody but a chance was probably the highest level of work we're taking but and the other side of that though I think there's a lot of people out there that look at it and say well the once they traded miles Garrett and again they're missing context attached to us they're missing context attached to the Browns they look at the headlines and say you traded miles Garrett you don't have a good quarterback room that's a tanking roster also the Raiders are not tanking if the Raiders are tanking they wouldn't be starting Kirk cousins week one well I think about playing an argument well I know I can make an argument that if you wanted to lose the most amount of games this year you would in fact start Kirk cousins because Kirk cousins last year in Atlanta he had one game over 300 yards the other all the other games were absolutely trash you would have one they want to have an array games of Kirk cousins was your your quarterback last year who's you the Browns yeah yeah but again like Kirk cousins last year with the Falcons wasn't good well they did okay I don't want to get no Kirk cousins debate I think my point is the Titans and Raiders have young quarterbacks they're trying to establish a winning culture with them I don't

8:18know about the jets the jets are the one that I I feel like they offloaded a lot of talent last year in season they they they've heard a try and replenish the roster I heard a DD on the PM team on Wednesday wax you got the jets as are opening game by the way on CBS good for her New York market congratulations oh that's how we spin it well I see New York markets huge yeah that's a good assignment for I thought you still the jets I thought she was gonna get the Browns Jags game I did I thought that was almost destined for her she got the New York market good for her she's saying she's like no the jets just need to be taken seriously well okay we don't have to go that far you know I mean I you I appreciate it DD I'm not gonna launch into that I think they're a much better team than everyone's given credit for I just I actually how she was talking kind of made it seem like how we talk about the Browns if we're being honest about it she talked about how much you like some different pieces that defense all the different playmakers on the offense and then you know Gino Smith as Gino Smith I mean the jets fans are crazy you don't want them in your mentions there I just I think we need more evidence from the Browns that that suggests their tanking if they're gonna be in the tanker tier and again I

9:21Eric has like four tiers but you know like some of the quotes by the way so Mike Sando also did his tears yeah and on the AFC side of things he has the Browns ranked 15th out of 16 teams and the quotes to me are far more damning like this is more evidence and these are the executives not necessarily San Torecto so one of them they doubled down on toxic one exact said I don't know how anybody can think they're headed in the right direction and of course the toxicity either time at Dishon and Shador and another exact said I think their defense is not going to be good and that quarterback situation is going to be a problem like those are things at least you can fall back on I disagree with at least one of the two that's at least something behind it other than well I think they're gonna be bad so they must be tanking I don't know why in your the Browns are gonna be good campaign you don't go to this take a little bit more than I'm about to give me low fuel have you seen the schedule and the amount of teams that we also put into this tank category that exist on the Browns week by

10:21week schedule I feel like I've made the schedule case quite a few of what you haven't named how many teams there are and how many actual games you feel like are winnable off of that I'll give you the number because I went through it earlier all right there's eight that's that's almost half the schedule obviously but that is a shockingly large number of games where you take on teams like the jets teams like the Falcons teams like the Titans all these teams that live in the I think absolutely suck category eight games Nick like that's that's an insane number of games to be taking on a really bad and obviously everyone knows the strength the schedule is as feel fourth best in the NFL and can attach that the idea though that we're gonna be taking on a lot of these teams that are in the tanking category more games than not should be not only competitive should be really close because the the teams that we're taking on I got eight eights the number right it's an insane number all right now you heard what he said but basically Nick Wilson co-signed that so that's now Nick Wilson's point so from the voting side on Sandoz tears they had this is kind of the voting breakdown the highest that any voter place

11:24him in the AFC was 13 they had two votes for being the worst team in the AFC one for the second worst and then two for the third worst team the 14th best team in the AFC I just also top 10 pick that six votes they're gonna have top 10 pick wait what does that mean? Tear votes top 10 pick six okay now I got it eventually I want to circle back at the point that you're all wrong about the Browns and I'm right about them and I can't wait to shove everyone's notes I'm not talking to you Browns fans I'm talking to the media I'm gonna become the media guy by the way yeah I'm now the media is the media is in big Pat Mahomes court there and I'm not gonna stand for it anymore the pre-victory lap you're taking on this is quite I'm impressed yeah because I might not be able to take a post-victory I'm not as much mileage as I can out of this right press the victory the pre-victory lap you're taking on this is to the level as if it's already proven correct why don't we take more I get it I get it you

12:27know I I don't think we do a good enough job of the post victory lap you got to you got to celebrate wins in the same I know but I you know I don't feel like I don't feel like we do a good enough job of when we really nail one like shouting it from the rooftops and letting everybody know but you've done a fantastic job of a pre-victory lap so I'm gonna do a pre-victory lap I'm gonna do like a victory lap in progress like a retirement tour but of victory laps okay at the end I'm gonna do a big musical number with the Rockets I'm gonna do a kick line yeah I will find out okay good I can't do it in sing okay because I can't walk in then come over here and talk or Mack and I a part of the or Jake and I a part of the kick line or no I don't think max apart of it sorry Jake yeah I'm like max I don't know how to see there's any sort of issues there but sure Jake can be it he's come down in class so far well we're gonna get him up there well I don't know I don't know I don't know I'm trying to talk to promotions what'll be the first sign that the Browns are actually tanking this season I do not want to talk about the T-word but y'all are forcing me to talk

13:29about the T-word it's not my favorite T-word Pete Futeck College football news coming up in 20 minutes right here on 982 3 the fan