High Stakes US-China Sit Down & Flock Surveillance Under Scrutiny | 9.25.26

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1:04can go hand in hand. I'm Daily Wire executive editor John Bickley with Georgia Howl. It's Friday September 25th. This is Morning Wire. As more questions and fears arise over flock cameras, the Senate holds a hearing to get some answers. This is still the United States of America and it shouldn't be that when you walk out your door in the morning, you just have to agree and ascend and accept the fact that you're going to be on camera morning noon and night. And former American idol contestant Caleb Flynn faces trial for allegedly murdering his wife and staging a break in. I'm going to be broken if I'm home. I'm going to be broken if I'm home. Are they still in there? I don't know. Thanks for waking up with Morning Wire. Stay tuned. We have the news you need to know. Getting a flood of holiday orders is a great problem to have. Until you actually have to ship all of them, ship station is built for exactly that moment.

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3:10All anyone has been thinking about these two world leaders meeting at the White House. Of course, President Trump went to China in February. They rolled out the red carpet literally for him. It was very dramatic, very royal, very ostentatious. And we're seeing a little bit of that here at the White House. On this week, what we saw was literally a red carpet rolled out for Xi at joint base. Andrews when he arrived a couple nights ago. And then at the White House yesterday, all kinds of pomp and circumstance and multiple bilateral meetings between President Trump and President Xi as they discussed all sorts of topics including Iran, including AI. We're hoping that they talked about Jimmy Lai, the Chinese billionaire who's been imprisoned by President Xi and has been so many people including Delewire advocating for his release. So very long day that ended in a state dinner that concluded around 10 pm. So everyone including myself was very happy for that day to be over. But I'm sure I did want to know too, John and Georgia. There was a crazy almond at the White House yesterday where everyone is a little uneasy.

4:13Everyone is a little on edge because of course, China is one of our greatest adversaries. And that was reflected even in the way the Chinese press treated myself and the other members of the American press. You know, we're all aggressive. We're all not afraid to get our questions in and not afraid to beg the President for more. But these Chinese press are physically aggressive. They get in your face. They push you. They've trampled people in the past. And yesterday, you know, we had videos even showing me shoved up against the wall as some of these press were just pushing past and not caring who they got in the way of. So a lot of uneas around the White House, we saw them taking photos in videos at the White House. And when the American press went to China with the Trump administration last year, earlier this year, we saw that the White House staff threw out all their burner phones. They threw out everything the Chinese gave them when they left China. And I think that it's just an indication of how little trust there is between these two countries, even though we're engaged in such high stakes visits. Yeah, very real security concerns there. Now, Trump and Xi were of course expected to cover the future of AI regulation.

5:16How did that discussion go? Was there any kind of conclusion? Yes. So the bits and pieces that we know right now are that both leaders talked about how important it was. To have human control over AI. And one thing that the United States pushed forward, and I think this is really interesting, was some kind of mechanism that would alert both countries if there were any incidents with AI that were troubling. And the president has talked a lot about how we cannot allow China to get ahead of us in the AI race or everything is lost. So just kind of a recognition there that we are the greatest leaders in this front, but there does need to be human accountability or we do face some of the dangerous scenarios that we've talked a lot about in Washington in the last couple of weeks. Now, before you go, I wanted to follow up on the press legal battle. What's going on in that front? Yes, this has been very dramatic and I for one, and quite ready for it to be over. Yesterday, as everyone was getting ready for President Xi to arrive at the White House, we got news that a judge had ordered that CNN, Politico and MSNBC needed to be allowed to access the White House. There was a little bit of a curvefuffle as some of these reporters came to the White House,

6:18tried to get in using their press credentials, and we're not allowed to, but ultimately they were allowed back on campus. All of these reporters came back and are able now to once again be in the White House, once again be covering the president and following his daily movements, which we know is what everyone around here cares the most about. I should add here really quickly, a lot of these reporters, as soon as they got back, let back on campus and immediately started having their colleagues film them, started doing new segments about themselves. That's one of the frustrating things I think about this whole process is, it is allowed these reporters to make it all about themselves when it should be about President Xi, about the White House, about President Trump. And you can make the argument that President Trump did this to himself, but hopefully we don't see any more of this. But we also hope that we see more fair coverage. I don't know if the Trump media battle is ever really over, Mary Margaret, but maybe this phase of it's done. Thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for having me. One of my passions is making my home very cozy.

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9:27That's joinadf.com slash wire or text wire to 83848. CEOs of major companies involved in AI surveillance like flock safety into axon were invited to appear before the Senate Judiciary Committee this week to discuss the expanded application of their products. But none of the executives invited showed up for the hearing. The effort was spearheaded by Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri who says he wants to find out quote what is going on with the expanding surveillance network that appears to be going coast to coast in this country. The senator joins us now Senator Hawley thank you so much for coming on thank you for having me so a lot of Americans are becoming increasingly concerned about flock cameras and you just held this hearing to get some answers on how the various companies are working. Hopefully to protect Americans privacy rights. How did that go and what did you learn well I learned that this is really far beyond law enforcement tool i'm all for law enforcement tools i'm a former prosecutor but what we learned on Wednesday. Was that this is a national surveillance network that has almost no restrictions on it no privacy protections and the flock CEO though he would not show up in person he wrote me a letter in which he admitted that you can search for individual images of people on their national network i mean that's a huge problem.

10:44I think we've got to put some guardrails in place here now you've tweeted that we have something like 120,000 flock cameras and there are 20 billion car scans every month. It's really hard to wrap your mind around that amount of data are these now in every single state and if so just major cities are they in metro areas and how do they operate exactly 49 states and 120,000 camera number comes from flock itself so they're just about everywhere that's 20 billion images every month just with flock there are three or four. Other companies that have similar technology so we're talking about all told me 100 billion images a month no security meaningful security protocols we had a guy testify at the hearing a cyber security expert who said he was able to hack the flock network from his computer and read individual people's text messages from the images that flock took that's really scary incredible now the argument for them of course is that they can be used to keep us safe the counter argument there is obviously the private

11:46privacy concerns were you surprised that the CEOs didn't show up before the committee to defend their product well I will just say that for companies whose whole business model is to put people on camera it was quite telling that they didn't want to be on camera in order to answer questions I think they need to come forward with what they're doing and I think that we need to have some common sense guardrails in place here you know if this is about reading license plates that's fine law enforcement do that all of the time no problem there if this is about helping law enforcement identify criminals that's fine the here's my concern right now this technology is treating every American citizen is if they are a criminal and tracking potentially every American without their consent that's a violation of the Constitution we need to protect people's liberties have you spoken to cops and law enforcement officers about their experience with this if it's if it is quite helpful to them and concerns that they have just from what they've seen I've spoken with numerous law enforcement and we had law enforcement testify at the hearing a couple of days ago and what law enforcement have said is that this is far beyond the

12:46law enforcement we had one sheriff who testified he dropped his contract with these companies flock in particular because the technology was targeting individuals was he taking pictures of people in their cars it wasn't just scanning license plates it was doing far far more and he was worried about who would get access to this data I think again we've got to have some common sense guardrails here that protect law enforcement that that most of all protect private citizens rights question do you have plans to force these CEOs to appear before a committee in the future well we invite them to come if they won't come I think we should explore having them be subpoenaed and I think most of all we have got to introduce some legislation here that will give every law biting citizen the comfort and security of knowing their constitutional rights are being protected well this is a rare bipartisan issue and as we said a lot of Americans very very concerned about this Senator Holly thank you so much for joining us Hey thank you. Yesterday jurors heard from the mistress of a former American idol contestant who is on trial in Ohio for the murder of his wife of 15 years prosecutors revealed thousands of text messages in which Caleb Flynn expressed hatred for Ashley Flynn and explicitly wished for her death here with the details as daily wire culture reporter Megan Basham so Megan before we get to yesterday's bombshell testimony from Flynn's mistress can you just

14:10get us up to speed on what happened with this case yeah Georgia so Caleb Flynn is a former a 40 year old worship pastor who was on the 12th season of American Idol back in 2013 he got as far as Hollywood week when he didn't make it any further now on February 16th of this year he frantically called 911 and reported that an intruder had broken into their home and shot his 37 year old wife at the end of the year Ashley while she had been sleeping and he said he was in his daughter's bedroom that he had been sleeping in there because he had a cough but prosecutors say that all of this was a ruse that he staged this scene and that when investigators arrived they found no evidence of a break in and that a handgun that Flynn had kept in his truck had gone missing that night so they say that Flynn shot Ashley twice in the back of the head while she was sleeping and during that investigation it came out that Flynn was carrying on an affair with another staffer at this church that was Alia botnar who he first met in 2022 when she was a 20 year old intern and they then began an affair in 2024.

15:28So let's get to botnar's testimony yesterday which was dramatic to say the least what did she say? Yeah John so investigators found over 100,000 messages between the two of them so that many text messages about 300 a day and in them Flynn said that he hated his wife he called her names like slut and explicitly wished for her death so this was what botnar said on the stand. What other names what do you use to refer to her color or. I'm spawn a Satan I used to most of those same names but she also said that Flynn told her about waking up to the sound of a gunshot that night. He said he was sleeping on the couch that he woke up the first time from the dog's shivering and he thought it was weird but then he went back to sleep. And then the second time he woke up was from a gunshot he said but he ran straight to the garage door saw that it was wide open and then went into.

16:30Looked into ashes room and he said he saw blood everywhere and he said he'll never forget that site. Now at one point John on the stand botnar whispered I'm so sorry it wasn't clear if that was directed at Flynn like she was apologizing for having to read these texts or if she was apologizing for her own texts. In which she also expressed a wish for Ashley Flynn's death and in fact in one message. Yeah she said I want to kill her Caleb and he replied that makes two of us though she said she did not mean that. Now beyond the affair and the text what physical evidence is there that the jury is going to consider. So the investigators say that the damage to the garage door did not look as if it came from the outside of the garage door they said that wood chips and parts of the door hardware were actually inside the garage so suggesting that that force came from the inside rather than the outside. But the defense is pointing to botnar so they're pointing out that she lied about the affair when the FBI first interviewed her and they say that the police essentially once they found out about that affair they stopped looking for any other explanations and the defense is also emphasizing that no murder weapon has been recovered here but two nine millimeter casings were found at the scene and that's the same caliber of handguns.

17:59So the number of handguns that went missing from Flynn's truck. Well those text messages are going to be hard for the jury to look past I think Megan thanks for reporting. Yeah my pleasure. Thanks for waking up with us the reporting that fuels this show is only possible because you tune in every day and because of our daily wire subscribers. To enjoy the show add free and join our mission become a member at dailywire.com. We'll be back this evening with more news you need to know. The midterms are not just one national race there dozens of individual contests each reacting to its own headlines and developments in Maine Trojax and Susan Collins are competing in one of Calhchis most actively traded Senate markets track the race live in Calhchis midterms hub and trade the outcome you believe will happen correct contract is worth one dollar settlement don't just watch the race take your position on Calhchis use code daily D.A.I.L.Y. to get up to $25 when you trade at $25. It's Calhchis K.A.L.S.H.I. Calhchis trade on anything 18 plus only restrictions and eligibility requirements apply event contract trading involves risk and may not be suitable for all investors Calhchis products are not available in all jurisdictions prices values and available markets may differ from those mentioned more information see Calhchis.com slash regulatory.