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Welcome back.

Midday show.

As you could tell,

a company has arrived.

I, Chris, by Caskin,

with us here in the city opening day.

We need a podcast.

What is this?

Well, I'm saying,

when we go to the unfiltered.

You know the podcast is still public, right?

People are better here when they say what they're saying,

but I'm just saying sometimes,

like some of the stuff that we talk about is radio.

It brings extra money.

I'm in.

Get paid.

I will do it.

I mean, that's the mantra.

All right, guys.

What's the wish?

That's all it keeps coming to my head every time I think.

Got to pay for it somehow.

Welcome.

It's opening day.

It's opening day.

Don't forget him.

I really want some.

See how much money we talk.

How much money we talk?

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

See, I knew.

See.

Go ahead, Joe.

I'm sorry.

No, you did it.

I tried.

I tried.

I tried.

I tried.

And he woke up this morning,

poking the bear.

He got A.

Always doing it again today?

Oh, he was going.

Oh, see.

I didn't hear you.

Oh, my bad.

Never mind.

He was.

I didn't hear Collins on my way and saying, Joe.

You don't want this, Joe.

And he says, come on.

He's still going.

See.

What am I going to do?

I told you that you gave life to this.

You addressed it.

And the minute that you addressed it,

it's out of control.

It's out of control.

You addressed the trolls.

They keep coming.

You have the power to shut it down.

That's where we have former teammates call it.

That's where.

Wow.

See, that's where he messed up it.

When the kids start asking questions.

Yeah.

Woo.

They're on social media, too.

They follow.

They follow.

They follow.

Oh, so they saw the cameras.

Not now.

Yes.

You're in a tough spot then.

How do you not address it?

And here we are.

See, listen.

It's opening day.

It is opening day.

It's opening day.

That's why we're here.

Way to control the narrative.

Yeah.

See, I'll come in here, man.

Come on, bro.

Let me tell you.

I'm from a.

Let me tell you.

The first baseball town of America.

Cincinnati.

And Cincinnati.

Just know that.

Just know that.

And you.

You're disgraced being from Ohio.

Just 25 minutes away from Cincinnati.

Well, I'm not understanding the importance of opening day

and what it means to make these baseball.

Why did I catch the strength?

Because I'm waiting.

Because I'm waiting on you to throw a shot.

Yeah.

You don't really.

It's close as you grew up to Cincinnati.

You don't really claim the area.

Well, because I was.

I'm closer to Cleveland.

Yes.

You want to do the Cleveland thing.

No, but I am.

I'm sitting.

But wait.

Geographic.

Were you closer to Cincinnati or Cleveland?

I did.

To be fair.

I'm in the middle.

I'm in the middle.

I'm in the middle.

Like, when you talk about Citroën.

Next to Dayton.

And Dayton.

No, I'm 40 miles away.

When you talk about Citroën Ohio.

I will look this up.

Where I'm from.

I am in the Citroën part of Ohio.

Because I'm between Columbus.

I'm 45 minutes between Columbus and Cleveland.

This is like what LeBron.

LeBron sometimes thinks he's from Cleveland.

Other times.

He's from Atlanta.

I'm not a bully.

I'm a true talent.

I am a true talent.

I am a true talent.

I am from the middle of the state.

So I grew up.

I grew up a Cleveland fan.

I grew up a Cleveland fan.

A Cleveland fan.

And why would you be a fan of anything from Cleveland when you were growing up?

Because it was the cardiac kids.

Remember the cardiac kids?

Yeah, Brian.

Habits.

Habits.

Habits.

Habits.

VisSNOW is in the center of Ohio.

Technical.

It's closer to Cleveland.

Technical.

Technical.

Town.

I'm trying to tell...

You win this one.

You guys on tourest Hula Steothel's.

Cincinnati.

I mean, shots and outreach.

You had Geography.

Cincinnati was a different...

What do you know I remember about Cincinnati.

Two things.

Alabama's in the Jazz Fest.

He knows exactly what I'm talking about.

Fisher Spice boys.

You said that like they know which...

There I know, but I knew you knew named...

Dodd.

the chili. Yeah, the chili. No, no, that the skyline. Yeah, they

important. No 7.6 bar school. So opening day, you guys ready or

what? Yes. Well, I said, oh, that's a say, Joe, opening day in

Cincinnati, we actually have a parade every year. Like the

little league parade. Yeah, you'll see the shot. You'll see the

video shots. I'm not like a little people take off the kids

take off a school. I mean, as I didn't mean as a shot, I meant

like little leagues still do that. It's like a tradition. And

it started with that. And we've been doing it every year. And

you'll see the shots of it. It's the only parade we're

guaranteed. Parade, we're guaranteed every year. It is, it is

a special day here, everywhere around baseball. All right,

back to the village. All right. So let's start with this

the excitement for this team this particular season. I saw

your win totals this morning. So I know you guys are super

excited. Yeah. But I want to, I want to start with this

question. Are you guys over last year? Well, okay, that was

listen to John Middleton the night when he had his, he was

with the media and he he's brought up multiple times as of some

of the fillies the last couple of weeks and months, the two

two count. Yeah, right? The pitch in LA should have been a

strike. It feels like, and I don't mean this as a good or bad

thing. It just feels like it's still in their mind. Maybe

they'll use it as motivation all year that they think they

were this close. Yeah, because they keep moving on that

moment. Middleton's brought up twice in the last month. Yes,

Kobe. Yeah, I agree with you. They were, they were, they

played the Dodgers close. And there were, there were, there

were plays that if they had gone a different way, the Philly

could have won. But that is really every series and every

sport. And the fact is they lost. And when you play a team

that good, you had those things matter. And the other thing

is, miss call for sure, there were, there were fundamental

baseball errors that the fillies made that the Dodgers didn't

and they can both have big payrolls, but the Dodgers did

not make the fundamental baseball errors that throw into the

wrong side of the plate, the Orion Kirkering, the, the

bond, you know, there were, there were errors that they made

that cost them the series, but they lost. They, they lost to a,

if they, if it had been a team that wasn't better, the Dodgers

are better than the Phillies last year. And they lost to them.

So was it close for sure? I, if they, I don't think they

were embarrassed by it. But it also, it wasn't one of those

things where I feel like the World Series was stolen from

the Phillies, because an on blue, a one ball strike caught, you

know, count in, I, I can't, I can't, I can't, listen, I, I

think you got to give the Dodgers the respect they deserve.

What do you want to say? It's a stack roster. They have a ton

of talent. When, when, when they were pressed and pushed to come

up in the big moments and come up with the big hits, the big

decision, they were able to do it. Not only not only do the

National League in the World Series, I mean, Toronto pushed

them as far as you could push them. What a great game seven

and series that was. And it still took the Dodgers late, coming

up with big hits, even when they were down late. I mean, they

were down the ninth inning. Yes, yes, though. So you got to

give them credit for who they are, the Phillies. But when you

play a team like that, you don't get margin for error is so much

smaller. Well, it's just smaller. The only positive, I guess I

could take from it, if I'm thinking about it is, is like, at

least they don't go into this season thinking that team, we

can't match up. That's when you're dead. And we were talking

about the, you know, the Durant Warriors and we were talking

about the heat or whatever. I think there were a lot of teams in

the NBA at that time that said, you know, we cannot beat that

team. And I think you could definitely look at the Dodgers

given. And but also they got better. They, you know, they added

and when Diaz, they like, they got and they had a talker. They

were the best team baseball on they got better. And I think

it's possible to look at them and say, you know, we don't have

a chance. That's what's unfair. Yes, it's ridiculous. It is.

Like you're already above ever. Like they added, I mean, Diaz is

you could argue as the best closer in the National League,

certain make that make that case. And Cal Tucker was the biggest

free agent. But at least the Phillies are saying, you know, I

would rather them think, you know what, we got screwed as opposed

to, you know what, we played our best. And we had no chance

again. I just wonder the balance of like that's we were right

there versus you could they have to climb the mountain starting

today. Right, right? They can't beat the Dodgers today. And even

when they play them the sex six, six, seven times during the

season, like that doesn't really matter. Like they can't really

topple the Dodgers till October. So I don't mind that they're

using this motivation that we were right there. But they got to

turn the page. I mean, I could start brand new today for a six

month grind. Yeah. Well, and this is where the outside were

who wants to be critical of the Philadelphia sports fan. Don't

get it. This ball club comes into this year knowing that they

don't live up to standards or they don't put forth the effort

that we expect to. Yep. What? Yeah, we don't do patent on the

back very well. Or at all, sometimes. So you're going to catch

heat. And to say, well, I can go to the ballpark, do my job

and go home, not in this town, you can't, you're going to hear

about it. And so all these teams in this city sort of get

held accountable to that until we get sort of form apathy for

a team sixers, flyers or fence. I'm just saying they're there

loses when when when you fail to meet expectations as often as

you do, what we'll do is forget about you or pay less attention

to you. But the fillies and the Eagles understand what this

spotlight is. And the fillies know what the amount of talent on

this roster. You don't get to just sleepwalk through the season

with it because it's not going to work here. And you're going to

be questioned and in accountability is going to be there for

the manager and the star players. And that's never going to

change. Like that's never going to change in this town. Ask the

team to just want a championship here. Well, you're later

with someone firing the coach. Exactly. I mean, that's that

is the way exactly it doesn't change here. And that's the way

it should be. I mean, it's much we want to talk about how much

the Dodgers spend and they do almost a half a billion dollars on

the roster. We get it. They're not as rich as Toronto, New

York and some of these other things. The fillies still got a they

still have put a lot of money into this baseball team and

decided and and deservedly so. The players on the team are

good enough. Now, you got to go out there and do it. All right,

you mentioned accountability. Where do you guys sit on top

first? We enter the season. I mean, he's obviously done a

nice job, right? Since he took over in 22 and they've been one

of the baseball's better teams. But last a postseason was not

good. I mean, I'm not saying it was all his fault. I don't

think he managed well in that particular series. And now the

expectations are high again. And I think we all realize there's

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just his just him, he's not your typical bench coach, right?

He's a former manager. He's also a super famous major league

player that all the players love. He's JT real motorist

manager in Miami. Do you think that the maddenly presence puts

extra pressure on top? Why do it? It'll put extra public

pressure on top. I don't think that they would consider

firing Rob Thompson unless the season was a complete disaster.

I really don't. Now, we'll start if they start off seven and

nine. There's no doubt we'll start yelling about. Of course,

you know, and we said this on the show the other day. Everybody

knows who thought maddenly is, which I know it sounds simple,

but is it makes a very big difference? He's one of the most

famous bench coaches you can have. Yeah. So, so we'll start

yelling for him. To me, the time that Rob Thompson could have

been fired was after the Met series. After he survived that, I

thought overall he had a good season last year. And it just

seems like they are, they have decided they are comfortable

with Rob Thompson. And unless something goes the way that we

don't think it's going to go, it's disastrous. Or there's

some sort of controversy or something like that. I don't

think that I think that they are comfortable with this core

of players. I think that they are comfortable with Rob Thompson.

And to be honest, I don't really have too much of an issue

with it. They we can do the thing where you say that they've got

they've gotten less far each year in the playoffs. But that's

really propped up by a miracle run at the start of it. He

started off so well. It was hard to replicate. I could also say

the team's gotten better every regular season that he's been

here. And I the reason that I think it was after the Met

series is that that team was dead on arrival on the playoffs

and and he didn't do anything in the middle of the season. It

became obvious in July that there was something wrong with that

team. They were coasting. They were sleepwalking. And you could

you could feel it the whole second half of the year. And he

never did anything about it. And if you wanted to change the

energy after they collapsed fell on their faces against the

Met's. That was the time. This at this point, I I'm fine with

Rob Thompson. Well, what before you go on? Yeah, well, while I

agree with all that, there's not many baseball teams have only

so many levers they could pull. Yes, I agree. And I feel like

the Phillies have pulled a couple of recently. They made a big

trade last July. I don't know if they haven't won as big as

Duran in them just with their farm system. So that probably

won't happen again. They also already are starting the season

with their two young prospects on the team. Now maybe eight in

Miller becomes the third and he's an arrival that like, oh, he

sparks things. But two out of the three are ready here. I just if

they need a spark during the season, I don't know where it's

coming from. Other than that. And that, I mean, I we saw it in

22. That was the spark that changed that whole season. I agree

with you. I honestly do. And I think Rob Thompson is a fantastic

manager. As Spike said, I think coming off his best year last

year, considering the cards, he was dealt even though they came

up short against the Dodgers. Here's what I would say, you get to

be in double digits down in the standings, meaning more than

10 games under 500. That's about what you want. That's you're

going to need something. And that's only what you can. Imagine if

this team is say eight and 18. It's a disaster. I mean, they

had what they have to do something, right? And it's exactly.

That's not fair. But you say that's not fair. But it's not, but

that's the only way you can make because you're not fine, Bryce,

you're not fine. They would probably fire Kevin Long before

they fire. But the point is that you're going to have to do

something like you're going to do something. And it's not, you're

not going to move the players. But I mean, who here thinks there's

any chance they're going to be eight and 18? No. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, it's it's it's it's it. It's always worse

than scenario. I think the bigger question is is at the middle

of the season, if they're three games over 500, which is a

reality, right? That could happen is that does that mean that

that because the reason that I said I thought they're going to win

97 games this year is that I think there will be one year where

they're not where this core has gotten old. And it's it's not

there anymore, right? I mean, follow up a cliff. Yes. But I

don't think you can guess when that's going to happen. It's

just going to happen. So I will continue to think the team's

going to be a 90 plus win team until they're not if that makes

any sense. I don't look you could you could say that this

year is like, oh, it's finally not going to work. Okay, that

will happen one of these years. But until it happens, there

aren't any signs to me that that's going to happen. There's no

sign from the pitching staff that that's going to happen. You

know, Bryce Harper, even if he's just what he was last year,

is certainly still a good player. Kyle Schwarber, we don't

expect him to drop off a cliff. We don't expect a tray turner

to drop off a cliff. Bryce has thought is at least what he

was going to be last year. So I don't, you know, maybe that'll

happen this year, but I doubt it. So you think there's more of a

chance they're just they're middleing than it ever is bad.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This year. Yeah. Yeah. I think you

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interesting is not so much the calls that are overturned. It's the

strategy behind it because you only get to. Yeah. And if you're

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that would be equivalent to you of doing holding in football.

Yeah, you can't call holding. But no, my point is you can call

holding on every play. It's almost like you'd say, stop, stop

it. I want to see if there was holding. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

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embrace that as well. But I like the human element in sports. And

if that means that's going to lead to a mistake from time to

time, so be it. It's rare that it's happened in the biggest

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car fuel gaming was so egregious that you couldn't do anything

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umpires, they usually get it right. Spike Ray out on it. So, from

a content perspective, it adds always thinking about the show

well, it adds drama. It's something else to talk about. It

I think there will be excitement at the end of a game, where

if you have one left and there's a big at that and those sorts

of things, I think I think from that perspective is interesting.

But I'm either with any kind of officiating, I'm either all

automatic or all human. I think any sort of challenge is is

contrary to what you're saying you're trying to do. If the

point is to get it right, well, we have a system to get it

right and we don't need guys standing behind the plate to do

it. It's a halfway. Yeah, we know it the entire time. So to

me, it's more maddening that this system is in place to

correct it. We're acknowledging that's wrong, but you can

only correct two of them all game. So, so either I think

from I think from a I think that is what will make me crazy. It's

what makes me crazy in the NBA is like that's what makes me

crazy in the NFL is we want to get it right. Well, not

really. If you wanted to get it right, all of the sport at the

ability now with the number of cameras they have with the

number of computers they have with centralized, we could get all

of it right all the time. And we we choose not to. So football

turnovers, just meeting possession, automatic, automatic

reviews. Touchdowns. I'm okay with it with those things. I

don't need pass an appearance. Well, the other thing you don't

say, I don't need subjective plays review. The other thing

that it does and one of the I was reading this morning, one of

the former empire said it is it I think it actively makes the

human officials worse because they're being second guest

publicly. So, so then then then they start you've already seen

how they call fumbles now now that now they they let it be a

fumble because they know they don't have the safety. Right. And

I think I think that based on empires do not like being a

barrist of all of them, they are the ones that are the most

prideful and the most yes sensitive. So if I'm a hitter and I

think I saw one hit or say this if I'm a hitter and I'm

worried that that guy is going to hold it against me later that

I challenged him and he got embarrassed beforehand. I'm almost

letting it go because I don't want that guy to be mad at me

later because I challenged one of his calls. If anyone would do

it would be a baseball umpired holding it would I do think

the strategy is really interesting. I agree with you. I think

the biggest thing going to be do you have it at the end of the

game because there's going to be a moment and it will happen

in the big game. We're at a challenges and we all see it. It's a

bad call. And like you just screwed them. Yeah. Yeah. And then

it'll go back to you know the manager or the player itself

that that called the initial one and and my thoughts have

evolved on this. But we had JT Real Muto on let's play this guy.

We had JT real quick jump. Would you agree that safe and out

should be called. Meaning like if you're safe on a base or

called out on a plate on a base like I'm okay with that. Well

but that's not part of it. No, no, I'm just saying it's

something that's automatically. Right. Something that's

automatically that's not like it's like balls and strikes. I

just can't ball the strikes. That thing with me. I just can't

do it with balls. I'm concerned about the end of the game. If

you're out then we're going to yell about your out, which is

interesting. Great pitch is close. Well, how about this? What if

it's a great moment? The NBA has this problem. The end of the

game you can't cheer for anything because someone's going to

review something. Right. Right. Like a huge strikeout.

Everybody's like, wait a minute. Imagine if game seven of the

world series. It's a strike three call. Everyone jumps up and

they're like, Oh, hold on a second. Challenging. Yeah. You

don't ruin the moment. No, that's going to happen. Well, you

just challenge anyway, even if you don't think just through it.

I got to balance it. So we had JT on during spray training.

And when he said this, it hit how it really can change a game.

Here's JT with us a few weeks ago. I think back to the pitch

to Sanchez through in the seventh inning of game four. I mean, you

had a feel that was a strike. Yeah. I mean, the umpire told me

right after he ball that it was a strike. You know, he admitted

to missing it right away. So like, that's the type of stuff

where it's just like that every play there was every game

there was one play that changes the whole game. And that's what

happens when you put two teams of that high quality together.

I mean, that hit. Well, sorry, that guy should be fired. If he

knows immediately afterward that it was wrong, he should just

say, sorry, I was wrong. So why did he tell JT? How does it make

him feel better? It seems like he's like he's torturing JT.

Like he's making fun of him. You got to take that to the grave.

Are we sure he told JT that? Well, why would JT tell us? He's

said. Well, part of the lore of when they almost beat the Dodgers

and they screwed him. If there's not actual audio of it, think

the umpire would admit that that's what he said to JT game. I'm

just saying if he was nice to ask that question. I need to look

at JT saying he said it doesn't mean he actually, no, it doesn't

mean he said it. Yeah, I mean, the umpire actually told him. I

need to see the tape. I need to see maybe maybe it was the way

he interpreted maybe the opposite my bad. Well, maybe that's a

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