Is it going Nuclear?

0:00What is up everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of the Run Your Mouth podcast. It's a special Sunday edition with our Chief War correspondent Kyle Anzalone. Thank you so much for joining me on a Sunday night. I know it's the weekend. You wanted to relax, but Trump doesn't take the weekends off so we can either. Now my work week starts on Sunday, Robbie. So actually I'm just staying up a little bit later than normal, but that's all. All right. I love it. And listen, I wish we didn't have to broadcast on a Sunday, but it's unbelievable the mess that Trump has gotten us into. And I've been glued to Twitter. I'm trying to figure out what's going on. So sticking to my title, let's start with this. Give us the breakdown. Currently, who's winning this war? Well, I don't think anybody is currently winning this war. I don't think it's going the way the Americans wanted to. And Iran is being heavily bombed. I guess it may be going closer to the Iranian script than the American script, as far as you know, executing the offensive and defensive

1:04plans. But that is making some assumptions that Iran has a stop pile of missiles large enough still in the launchers to fire them and the men willing to go out there in these launchers and in highly dangerous missions and launch them at Israel and American bases and American allies in the Middle East. I mean, it appears right now. They still possess that capability. And so again, it's hard to say, right, when Tehran is on fire, right? There's literally a black cloud that didn't let sunlight into the city today because the Americans are the Israelis burned one of massive oil refinery right outside of the city. But at the same time, the fact that the Iranians are still fighting that every day, the Iranians are launching missiles and drones at Western countries. They're further depleting and wearing down the Israeli and American defenses. And I think the Iranian strategy is

2:05basically to not only run the US out of the interceptors, but start to poke holes in our network of radars that are across the Middle East that allows the United States interceptors to be as effective as they are because they're able to detect early warning sites. And look, this isn't just me. I talked to I filled in for Scott Horton on provoked this week with Darryl Cooper, who actually when he was in the military, not only is he a brilliant historian, but when he was in the military, he operated missile defense systems aboard ships. So he is a expert on this. And you know, the Iranian plan is to poke holes in the network of radars that we have and eventually degrade the American and Israeli military to effectively use their missile interceptors, at which point, you know, maybe they feel like either they'll do enough damage to the Americans to prove a point or will be in a position where they can negotiate on favorable terms. So it

3:06certainly seems like the Iranians are on the pathway to executing that plan where I don't know what the American plan is. I'm not sure if Trump the White House know what the American plan is, but the fact that we've gone from this is supposed to be a two to four day war to a four to two to four week war to an eight week war to planning for this war going through to September, it's pretty clear that the American battle plans aren't being executed as they had hoped. All right. So we got a tons again into and I don't want to 80 to too much, but on the note of the Black skies, my theory is that Donald Trump saw the CNN footage of, look, everything's common to Iran. The regime isn't, isn't failing. And was like, Oh, you think it's calm? You don't think it's a nightmare? And then they black in the entire skies. But before I I know, I think you're absolutely correct on that. I actually saw when CNN was doing that coverage, and I thought, Oh my God, like this, like Trump is going to

4:10see this and he's going to freak out. And Pete had the set is going to feel embarrassed for not doing enough damage to Iran that the civilians are running and fleeing and crying, and that the scenes don't look like throughout of Gaza. So they're trying to create that. Now, if I could make one more point on that, Robbie, I think it might have been a strategic one of the things that different groups in the Middle East have done over the years is to light oil wells on fire or to like build trenches with oil and light that on fire, because it's one of the few things that blads out America's massive array of imaging and makes it more difficult for radars to work. And so this may have given Iran a strategic advantage to move assets around to run at least for a short window when obviously you're not taking pictures through that cloud and even infrared and other sensors and things like that are at least going to be less functional if not outright blot out. So this, I bet in like two,

5:13three weeks, maybe a couple of months, we find out that this actually caused a massive setback in the American bombing campaign. All right. So listen, we got a ton to cover, but just sticking to the logistics and who's winning this thing. The way I see it is Donald Trump reached out to negotiate and they don't want to negotiate. That makes sense to me because the two times they've sat down to negotiate, Trump just bombed them anyways. And so I think at this point they think they got an untrustworthy partner and they got to make this thing very costly and we're kind of down to because Donald Trump has said absolute surrender and I think Iran wants to make this as expensive as possible and as and to have allies in the region very upset with us for lack of actually offering them security and messing up their oil business that it gets to the point that we have to just get out and then the regime survives. We're basically kind of that there's only one, it's seemingly I was hoping

6:13Donald Trump was going to take the off ramp say we killed Kalmani, it's a regime change, he didn't take that off ramp and so the way it looks like now is we're playing we're playing for keeps and we're playing to the finish. Now well and can I just add on that point really quit there on that off ramp. I think Netanyahu blew up that off ramp. I think that Netanyahu knew that was the off ramp that Donald Trump wanted to take and so Donald Trump said this that they killed all the people that they wanted to take over Iran were killed in Israeli strides in the first couple waves of the bombing and I think what Trump said was they killed the people we wanted, they killed the second wave of people they wanted, they probably killed the third wave of people we wanted and pretty soon we're not going to know anybody and so it's very possible that Netanyahu saw that possibility but that's not what Israel wants because that leaves a strong united country of 90 million proud muslims

7:19that are probably going to be you know somewhat coalesced and want to be more hardline nationally and maybe support their groups of the Middle East so he wants to make sure this is a long drought not conflict that really weakens and potentially fractures Persia right that's his goal and so he made sure that couldn't happen by the United States not being able to say hey if you put this guy in charge we're all good here. Now is it before we get back to logistics is it true that Netanyahu also thwarted the earlier negotiations because there was at least the problem with scrolling twitter is it takes a quite a bit of effort to separate fact from fiction and then I just absorb a lot of information and I got to go out and clarify it but one of the things I was seeing was Netanyahu reaching out to Trump and being like is it true that you've reached out to the Iranians directly and then Trump being like no no no I would never do that you're you're the boss here we would never go behind your backs and try and talk to them I was there an early

8:20in a good earlier actual honest negotiation effort not with Kauf and Kushner but Trump directly trying to reach out to the Iranians that Netanyahu found out about and you know put his foot on I don't know if it was good faith I think probably Trump tried to send a message to Tehran that was along the lines of you want if you want to surrender we will accept it that's what he thought was going to happen so but I don't think he put out a sincere effort but yeah according to Adseos Netanyahu did reach out for a dread conversation with Donald Trump to make sure that he wasn't engaged in talks with the Iranian so it goes to show how anxious Israel is about this being a short conflict okay and now it seems like from what I gather of kind of the logistics of this thing is that Iran's got a lot of really cheap stuff or relatively cheaper to what we spend on millet on missile defenses and

9:21patriot missiles and so they've kind of been lobbing the cheap shit to eat away at our very expensive stuff and now it's kind of a question of how much of a stockpile do they still have that they can do severe damage and what's the US ability to basically take out those stockpiles so I what's your takeaway at the moment do they have a ton of stuff that they haven't used is the Americans and Israelis doing a good job of taking out stockpiles like if you're trying to like look at what the next three weeks look like is Iran just pumping out these drones and pumping out their missiles and they're good to go for you know another month and they're going to bleed us dry or is the US doing a good job of disarming them I don't think the US is doing a good job of disarming them it seems that Iran has more advanced missile capabilities both on the launcher and and the actual munition itself then was anticipated they're firing what people are calling a cluster munition which I'm not sure if that's

10:24actually what it is I think it's a multiple independent reentry vehicle where it's one very large rocket that separates into like one or two dozen smaller missiles that that then are able to hit a target in a large area where a cluster munition is more of an anti-personnel the drop smaller nades over a large area something like that so those are very hard to hit obviously because you don't know exactly how many warheads you're going to have coming out where the targets are going to be so that seems to be more advanced than planned I saw videos and you know there's been these videos published and confirmed that Iran is firing missiles essentially out of the flat ground that they have tunnel networks underground and they have launchers that you know just flat with the service missiles dusk flying out of the air I mean they they they have some advanced capabilities and

11:25while the U.S. is estimating Iran's missile stoppile they were wrong about it during the 12-day war in June they thought Iran was going to run out missiles far before they did I really don't have any advance insights some people say that the pace of Iranian missiles strikes is slowing down but that could be due to targeting information you know even if Iran has a lot of missiles they may not know exactly where to program into targets particularly targets that are going to be somewhat vulnerable and not well defended yeah I'm I'm sure they know where Israel really in U.S. military bases are but that's also where the most advanced radars and missile defense systems are going to be positioned to defend other areas like downtown Abu Dubai or in Bahrain hotel rooms where there's U.S. soldiers are personnel maybe easier to hit by obviously getting that targeting information is a lot harder to come by

12:26but they have been able to this was reported in the Washington Post I think it was in Bahrain or maybe Kuwait there were two American defense officials who were injured in a hotel room by an Iranian drone strike and so I don't think the Iranians are just randomly striking hotels I think they're doing fairly targeted strides on what they believe are locations of U.S. defense personnel so it's really hard to say Robbie I do think if you look at the number of American radar systems I've been hit in the Middle East I think by my count it's about eight although it's really hard to you know confirm there's all this open source intelligence of people analyzing satellite information and a lot of good work has been done there but now with AI ability to generate fades it's sometimes hard to tell but multiple THAAD missile defense radars have been hit early warning detention systems and Kuwait and Qatar which are key

13:29have been hit and so maybe Iran is really slowing the rate that they're firing their missiles right now knowing that when they fire them now the U.S. and Israel are going to have like a 50% chance or so is shooting down the missiles whereas if they're able to punch a few more holes in these radar systems once are able to identify where they are and when it's going to be a vulnerable time to attack then they're going to have success rates that are like 80 or 90% so they're just kind of biting their time and doing this slowly and also there's a factor of right now it seems that the U.S. ships are hanging out pretty far away from Iran but if Trump executes his plan to escort you know cargo tankers through the Middle East carrying oil and things like that through the stray of four moves then Iran maybe has a lot of missile capabilities that they haven't even used yet their short range anti-ship missiles so who knows what the Iranians have I guess is the point

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15:31bunch of people who were that was it was a cheap shot by Iran basically on a bunch of military guys with storage units or something so give us the actual details at least as far as you know what's been the damage thus far military bases yeah so I mean I talked to Daryl Cooper about this and obviously he's not CNN and he said that the damage it he seemed to stay extensive although I think there's a little bit caveat in what he was explaining which is there's not really targets left at these military bases for Iran to hit once they hit some of the long range radar station there a lot of that was moved out of the Middle East and so I guess if Iran wanted to they could put holes and runways they could blow up hangars they could destroy staff buildings but there's nobody inside there and it's not really an operational military base right now I think Daryl's point that he was making on her vote was essentially there's not a whole lot of targets left at these immediate military bases to hit so you know maybe to say that they were

16:36destroyed isn't exactly the most accurate although there has definitely been some damage done I think like you know fuel tanks and things like that those bases so they have been hit but there's not a whole lot targets there worth hitting and so it's not like you know if you look at an image of it a US military base doesn't look like Gaza but there's nothing there for the Iranians to hit right now and everything of value has been hit all right so before I ask this next question I want to just make it clear in case anyone has a different takeaway with what I'm about to say next I think that this was an epic blunder by Donald Trump I didn't think I don't think we needed to do this I think it was put a lot of risk on our plate with all that said I'm still hoping for the best I want the deep state to learn its lesson that we can't support Israel we can't have these wars but I'd like to do it you know maybe with the Thomas Massie in the voting public and not with the end of our empire so I just want to make it clear before I make this next point I'm not

17:38rooting against our military and I'm not rooting against Donald Trump but I would love to you know in an ideal world I'd love for Donald Trump just to declare victory and that we can move on but the pathway to victory I'm seeing for Iran here is that if they can keep this war going for longer I think when gas prices really start going up in America that's when you're going to see outrage and I think where Donald Trump really might have weakened our empire is that you know our deal with all these countries out of the Middle East was essentially you're selling your oil and dollars you're going to buy our treasuries you're going to invest in the U.S. and you're going to buy our military gear and in response we're going to protect you and now these people are just trying to run a good old-fashioned oil business that's run by dictatorships but they're running an oil company you know it might be an evil oil company but they're running an oil company and this really sucks for their business and now they're turning around I think and going hey we're canceling contracts

18:41and I think that all these countries are going to be looking to get out of the United States business because this is not keeping them safe and it's not keeping their business stable I don't think they like what's happening here on top of that it almost feels to me like we're in World War 3 because you know the same as we were working with Ukraine to basically be a war with Russia without being a war with Russia you've got China supposedly and also Russia is basically giving targets over to the Iranians so that they can that they can hit stuff um so it seems to me the regime just needs to survive and make this so expensive that Israel and Donald Trump walk back and then at that case I think we're in a fantastically weaker position because we showcase we can't just always kick ass and that there aren't repercussions for what happened um so which brings me to my next point uh which is how this war is actually being fought and what I see is a major strategic blunder of that the United States of America first down the first strikes they killed civilians so you know that that that doesn't help for uh

19:46for claiming the moral high ground or not targeting civilians but then over the last couple days it's reported that they hit out a desalination desalination plant I think I said that word right and then they just popped an oil field in Iran and now if Iran wants to create the most amount of havoc in the region and piss off our allies as much as if they start targeting oil fields in other countries and taking out the desalination plants that you know these these these countries are now scrambling for water and critical infrastructures completely out the window that seems like the worst case scenario for the United States of America where all the other countries such as maybe Saudi Arabia the UAE just all of these countries alike what the fuck did you just do Trump yeah uh uh so this is crazy to me that the US would take in this step first because Iran does you know get most of their water through other means you know they're they're not pulling sea water taking the salt out of and turning into drinking water but a lot of our Arab allies and particularly Israel do rely on a lot of it

20:52now uh Iran may hesitate to just start hitting the UAE's and guitars and Saudi Arabia's uh you know water treatment facilities and oil wells and things like that because those countries do have militaries and they're not currently using them to attack Iran even though Iran is hitting targets in their cities certainly debris at least from the Iranian drones are killing civilians in those cities and so there's a a very delicate balance going on between Iran and the Gulf states right now that to run probably doesn't want to upend and also I think from the Iranian perspective uh when you look at what could happen in the Middle East if they could go sideways for the United States and if the US is maybe forced to pull out some of its bases you know these are a lot of uh uh monarchies and other types of just authoritarian rulers

21:53in the Middle East who are largely propped up by the American military presence in their country and if the American fifth fleet was no longer in Bahrain who says that the shea majority of that country doesn't rise up in the overthrow of the Sunni monarchy and certainly things like that could play out in Iran and other countries and the point being if you start bombing the water treatment facilities in Saudi Arabia the people who are going to be thirsty are going to be the shea not the Sunni rulers and the royal family and so at least that that has to be something to consider from the Iranian perspective is that they would be hurting the very people in the Middle East who are probably most loyal to them and would see them as some sort of liberators. I think that changes in Israel I think Iran will probably talk uh start to target more Israeli civilian infrastructure and crucial civilian infrastructure uh like the water treatment facilities maybe sewage plants, power plants, oil refineries, oil

22:53oil taints and all kinds of stuff like they're doing in Iran. And thus far what has Iran mostly been trying to target as it been mostly military targets or have they been going after civilians? Um I don't know if Iran is ever directly target like I don't know if Iran has fired a missile with the program GPS coordinates being a hospital or a school certainly civilian targets residential buildings have been hit in Israel in the Gulf countries like I said hotels in the Gulf countries. Now Iran is arguing that these are in some ways military targets either because military personnel is in there maybe there's an iron dome system on the street outside the residential building and uh the both governments have really locked down on the amount of footage getting out actually showing uh because during the 12-day war I don't know if you're a member Robby there was

23:55video everywhere you know very good cell phone camera video where you can see from four different angles and Iranian missile coming in and either gain intercepted by an Israeli interceptor or it barely gets through and hits its target right uh this this time there's definitely not as much of that content even though I think there's just as rocket and missile fire going on and that's because both governments have really restricted that because the information is so valuable to either side on programming their targets and missiles and understanding the capability of missiles and interceptors um so I just have no idea to evaluate that aspect but Iran is claiming their targeting military targets I think that's probably generally true I'm not sure if there's been times where they fired indiscriminately and of course you know whenever you're talking about missiles and drones being fired not only are there interceptors but there's other forms of electronic warfare as well uh particularly when it comes to a drone if a

24:58drone is supposed to have a certain course and it gets disabled it's just going to fly in the direction that's going a lot of times until it crashes into something and so uh you know certainly civilian targets have been civilians have been killed by Iran and now in the targeting of the other Arab countries at first I found that shocking it made no sense I was like why aren't they just going after military targets uh of the US and of uh of Israel um I've heard reporting that it's because the regime was fractured and they didn't have full control over I guess who was firing stuff and so that you just had you know people who were firing it I guess it targets that if the regime was stolen yeah I can say I think what probably happened there is Iran set up a system uh that was basically like you know if uh like a dead man switch right like if the chain of command breaks these you have like these options and so you're ordered to fire

26:00and my guess is that you know certain commanders either missed right orders misunderstood the information coming in and we're probably firing at targets that to run if this commands are given from central command wouldn't have ordered them to fire but at the same time they were acting upon order so it's not like uh you know one general was going rogue in ordering his people to do something uh I think everybody was probably acting on their orders the way they interpreted them well now after what I've read in the last day the strategy kind of makes sense because at first I was thinking why would you want to pick a fight with more countries but now I understand get basically getting the partners to uh or the other oil partners in the United States of America to cast the blame on Israel and America and be like why did you have to create this mess for all of us which potentially makes the war uh more costly to the United States of America by engaging in it so like I do

27:03I do somewhat understand that strategy if that makes sense yeah and I think there's uh some other aspects of it as well like um the Iran is firing missiles and drones and even if it's at American military targets or hotels and Qatar they're housing American military forces and so Iran would say those are legitimate targets and if you interpret it that way Qatar is spending their uh interceptors to try to shoot that down and they're running out of interceptors and so now they're going to the Americans asking for more and the US is giving them to Israel and so I think from the Iranian perspective you're showing the the Arab states exactly where they fit in the the hierarchy of the US empire and that actually America isn't such a good or reliable ally and also you know it is forcing Qatar and Saudi Arabia and the UAE to go to Washington and say hey

28:04and this war this is killing our country this is bleeding us dry we can not go on like this and they do have leverage not only over Washington and at the amount of money that they invest in the US and hell I mean maybe even I believe that it would be better if you know the Qataris and the the Saudis didn't have all this ownership and influence over US companies but from the perspective of Washington is a good thing so they have leverage there but they also have personal leverage over Donald Trump and his family because all these uh kingdom sovereign wealth funds have invested and dumb business with Trump and with Kushner and with Wake Off and other people who are in the inner circle now it seems to me like our military is royally messing up in that in this new generation of warfare you need cheap drones otherwise you're at risk for cheap drones taken out you're incredibly expensive stuff and bleeding you dry and from what I'm hearing we're in this environment now where we're

29:06starting to complete stockpiles from what they have out of the Pacific and we've got these incredibly expensive missiles um and what happened to our US war manufacturing that one we just seem to be behind the eight ball on having cheap drones to conduct warfare and that we've got all this extremely expensive military equipment and how was this I mean we're spending uh Trump's budget is over a trillion dollars now he's asking for an extra five hundred billion dollars how do we have such depleted stockpiles it just seems like with all the money being spent in our military the fact that we don't have a gear that better suits kind of the modern environment where you don't need all this expensive stuff like that we're not craftier and two that even of the expensive stuff that we have such uh slow turnaround times and small stockpiles what happened here that we seem to be in such a bad military manufacturing state yeah I mean it's because you know we don't have the arms industry it's just a massive uh money laundering scheme right it's all about

30:08getting taxpayer dollars is not about designing a military that's meant to fight that's why when you look at the the production of you know that our patreon missiles you know it's a couple dozen a year it's maybe a hundred a year it's nowhere near what you would need to fight an actual war but it is enough to keep you know the the profits coming in to Lockheed Martin and Raytheon and and that's what this is all about and so this military wasn't meant built to fight a war it just wasn't it was meant to be expensive and to have you know multi-billion dollar R&D budgets where all these you know people could make huge pockets of money by you know Lockheed will farm off the development of this particular thing to this little LLC and everybody will make a bunch of money but at the end of the day it doesn't produce a fighter jet that's capable or produce factories that can make enough interceptors to possibly

31:09protect American soldiers if they were ever in a real war and I mean look Robbie we're in a war right now with Iran a country that's broke a country that was battered in a war just six months ago I mean imagine if this was a conflict with China or Russia right they it would be unreal how unfit our military would be for actual combat and we have two aircraft carrier strike groups in the region most of our air defenses are in the region a lot of our fighter jets were using our advanced bombers and we're not breaking the back of the Iranians and so look this is the clear example of that our military was never actually built to fight a war and as you said the the math just doesn't work interceptors are more expensive than offensive missiles and so when you have the trade-off here Iran is always going with every exchange Iran is winning 10-20-1 as far as the dollar value goes even if the interceptor

32:09warts and shoots down the missile and you know I I focus a lot on my show and I think the the war is going to come down a big part of it too can Iranian missile stoppiles outlasts in a significant way the stoppile of American and Israeli interceptors but there's other factors too I mean Pete headset was talking about how we're close to having air dominance over Iran and we'll just be able to fly over their skies all day long that may not be true Iran may not be able to shoot down fighter jets but they're going to be able to shoot down Reaper and Predator Jones on Sarovla could do it all the time in Yemen Iran will be able to figure out how to do it is not that hard they don't move that fast the technology is there and widespread and you know fighter jets they need maintenance and a lot of it and you wouldn't think about all the different things that need to be replaced every few flights for a fighter jet but if you're running these things 24-7 all day long

33:12trying to fight a war in a country three or four times the size of Iraq flying your war planes over at all day long they're going to need new tires new braids new electrical components eventually you know new wings and new engines and you're going to really strain the supply chains because again if they're not there they're not set up to fight a war they're there just to make money for the companies that produce them so that this is i think going to show that the american military is going to be an absolute catastrophe for the us and on the because i did have that on my list of questions for you the claim of dominance of the skies the sales pitch there is listen we're going to be able to just go in there and blow up all their military gear we won this war it's just going to take us a couple more days or months but we've got this because we got the air superiority um but if you don't know where they're stashing all the military gear how does that help so i was curious because it it just boils down to the same equation of my head of uh how how long can we

34:15sustain this and how expensive does it get versus them maintaining a stockpile and basically just outlasting us in their regime remains alive but how much is that air superiority a factor do we actually have the ability to target where their stashing all this stuff is it's so decentralized that you know it doesn't help to just be able to fly into their country and blow stuff up i mean it doesn't seem to me that the us yet has air superiority over a ron i i don't know for sure or look you you know a ron may be stashing even some of their air defenses i think the kind of conventional wisdom is you would have your all of your defenses floor for deployed in order to defend your country the best is possible but maybe a ron calculates that hey if we keep some of these you know missile defense systems behind we pull them out in a couple months we'll catch american fighter jets on suspecting and we'll be able to shoot them down so you know this idea that

35:18we're just going to beat the Iranian military and then they're not going to find ways to develop new military capabilities as the war is going on uh maybe get imports of weapons from other countries that's a potential possibility as well or have stoppiles of even interceptors and air defenses that could one day stand up to the us but uh i think a us at the team was shot down a couple days ago over north or in a rock of course you had the instant where three us fighter jets were shot down over quate apparently by a quated fighter jet i'm still trying to to piece that one together seems like there's a lot of holes in that visual story uh but the i even if those were all friendly fire incidents the idea that the americans are still nervous enough that there are Iranian fighter jets out there that they're shooting down their own fighter jets was suggesting me that the us doesn't have air superiority over a run or you wouldn't see these accident securing all right so i'm going to hit you with uh one more question

36:21and then we'll take some comments and i do have a lot more for you but i one of the other storylines in terms of iran making this war very costly uh for the united states of america is that it targeted at least one a i infrastructure building i believe it was maybe microsoft but uh what's the story there of them now targeting i guess the uh big big new tech center developments i thought i read a report that they had tate uh amazon for uh data center in the u a e um i don't know i really don't know why iran chose that particular target uh maybe again kind of like attacking the golf leadership they feel like if they can put pressure on billionaires that maybe have some influence over Donald trump that this could be a i think it's that i don't know and also it's just if america's trying to like if america's trying to partner with these other countries and part of the partnership is we're

37:21going to offer you security and we're both going to invest in each other and an american company makes a giant uh infrastructure development and you now have the risk factor of oh at any point in time israel can decide that they're going to go to war with iran and iran might bomb our new development it becomes a lot more expensive to you know try and make these developments so i just think it's part of the iranian strategy uh to make this as expensive as possible for the united states of america so that you know in the future they don't want to go in and uh kick kick the b hive again all right let's take uh let's take a couple of comments the chat's very active we got a lot of people here we'll start with uh sm 2049 i'm going to defend bill parry for allowing the mic to combine because he was dealing with winding down the cold war and decreased military budgets i have no idea what that's about do you know uh i think it's referring to the uh former defense secretary and there was a lot of uh consolidation of the defense industry as the cold

38:22war was kind of winding down i think that was during uh the clinton administration and a lot i guess the companies were unhappy that the military budget was at least supposed to be declining and so one of the things they got is uh you know just more consolidation and so you went from having a lot of smaller defense contractors to just a few lucky martin raytheon north of grommet uh hunted in angles and bowing who get almost like i think like 90% of the contracts from the pang on it might be 80 it might be less than 90 but it's uh it's a majority of a lot of them uh i don't know if this is true but it's funny we make clones of the iranian 20 cage drones for $35,000 is that true i i know that the us is making copies of the iranian drone i didn't see the price fake on it and honestly i would be surprised at the us military industrial complexes and at least quadrupling the price that the iranians produce it for 35,000 seems like a bargain there you go all right uh before i move forward i just want to plug real quick

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40:27could find all the articles i write there you go Jeremy doll is coming in letting you know that port store was the best wife he uh best wife uh it was the best date i've had with my wife in the past couple of years ten out of ten highly recommend and before i get to my questions i do like this question uh this is from tie-haggered five nine one four do you believe is i do then a hundred years we will look back at history and that we are in the first five years of uh i think he said how well i think he meant how world were three started or the start of world were three you know i i don't know i guess if i were a chinese general right now i would be absolutely urging she to go ahead and take taiwan that there's no way the america is moving their military assets out of the region they don't have enough interceptors to defend their troops in the middle east uh why why not go now so maybe at the same time uh this could end up being like a six month long regional war certainly a major conflict that will kill a lot of people i think uh but you know i i guess i

41:31try to be careful about the world war predictions and also i will say uh i had a fantastic time at port store with my wife as well she's not libertarian and she had a great time there you go that rolls all right so now let's talk about uh oil disruptions and i want to start by debunking this claim i saw some people trying to make the claim that the reason why donald trump was doing this was because he wants to starve china for for from oil and the goal is that once we've kind of uh taken away all their oil reserves are going to have no choice but to stand off on taiwan but then i looked into this i think they were getting like seven percent of their oil from venezuela and about fourteen percent from china so the best case scenario is a 20 percent reduction in chinese oil i just don't see this as being the uh geopolitical play for absolute leverage over china um so that was kind of my quick back of the napkin groc math of is this a true claim um but do you see this uh i have you seen that reporting of this was a smart play and uh to angle on weakening the chinese

42:34empire which is our true enemy or is that just absolute nonsense and line with my uh my little uh my little no pad math well your no pad math is right but i wouldn't underestimate how stupid republican senators are and i do think some of them believe that that's actually a thing and so you know it's not true but that doesn't mean that it did an impact the decision making at all uh i think it probably did in the minds of some influential republicans i don't know about donald trump he may understand the actual numbers it can't be a serious part of the strategy it could be in like a little add on to you know sweeten the deal for donald trump oh and this will hurt china too this will set bad china too uh but like you like you said for for china this isn't uh i don't think it's a major thing now you know china did plan four hundred billion dollars of investments in aron over the net's 20 years you know they aron was a big part of the brown road initiative

43:37they had joined brits in the Shanghai cooperation organization and so you do certainly remove a middle east partner from china if you are able to remove the government of tyrann and install an american friendly government and so i just made that point to say the Chinese are invested in the islamic republic and i do think they are going to take at least some degree of actions to ensure that a government that they are friendly with remains in tyrann okay and now in terms of uh you know there was a time in which i kind of saw listen you cream war i i think all these are blunders but i could see a republican or a war hawk making the argument of look we bogged down uh putin with a war that we didn't actually have to fight and as a result we were able to flip then as well uh

44:37we didn't really flip then as well uh we're able to flip Syria and now their bog downs were able to flip Iran the flip side of that is uh firstly we're spending all the money in the world it's not like we got two other superpowers to fight each other and we could just be on the sidelines um but in addition to that i'm now reading a lot of reporting that this is the greatest thing in the world for china because they're able to study all of our military gear um and basically we're drawing down our own stockpiles and we're now stuck in a quagmire so this is the best thing in the world for them in terms of if you view that china and russia are enemy which by the way now we're just driving the two of them closer together which it would have made more sense to try and divide them which was one of the stupidities of the ukraine war but just if we were uh looking at the world from the republican world view as a risk table and going how do i stay ahead how do i preserve my empire and stay ahead of russian china if you actually had that world view which you and i can debunk is not being the smartest approach to life

45:38you can just get along and trade with people and we can all be wealthier and uh you're just spending money that we don't have but anyways we don't have to go down that if i was playing this risk board and i was like i wanted to defeat these other empires so i'm going to start taking other properties uh and have their assets are we winning here or does this just benefit china no i i think it benefits china infaturabi uh the week before this war started there was a report that came out that said some officials in the pentagon work of cernan i think this might have been uh elbridge colby but i i know it was you know some officials so who knows it could have been some admiral or some kernel or it could have been elbridge colby other uh civilian official anyways they were expressing concern that if we do this war then we're not going to be prepared to uh prevent china from taking tywan and i i almost hesitate to make this argument because i am anti-war i don't want to see the u.s military go to war i don't want to ever

46:40say something that could be used as war propaganda but i do think that the u.s embroiling itself in this middle east quagmire will embolden china when it comes to their relationship with i don't think this necessarily means they'll invade our blockade right away but i do think they're going to see that typay is effectively left without a partner that even if they go calling to washington washington has nothing to give them uh washington's distracted with their own conflict in the middle east and i really don't think trump is going to divert american military resources from an ongoing war in aron to tywan and and i think russia and ukraine as well will likely see a similar thing where i'm sure right now trump is calling every single one every single NATO country australia japan south korea and shaking them

47:40down for every last bomb every last interceptor every last drone every last spare part for an f-sets team and f-35 and f- uh and f-22 that those countries are willing to give to the united states in israel and look i mean we already did that for ukraine so i'm sure in a lot of countries uh the the cupboard is essentially bare you know what they have is what they feel the minimum they need for their own defense industries and they already promised the weapons for to ukraine so uh i just i don't think there's a whole lot there and this is certainly uh has to embolden russia and china just because of the logistics in the american military and what we actually have in our stoppiles and what it means for the usability to give aid and support to either ukraine or tywan all right i wanted to get into the logistics of the straighter here moves but the people in the chatter being somewhat hilarious here uh they're wondering if there's going

48:41to be a draft if there is a draft if that means that we're all going to be serving in the idf and whether or not we'll be assigned tiny hats i know that this was the most recent news story from today was uh i didn't actually watch the video i was on a flight but i saw it on twitter the carolina levit made a statement about a draft uh what do you think the likelihood of that is yeah i think she said the same thing you know she's a broken record at this point uh the president isn't going to take any options off the table right so it's possible to that does her just default answer to any question she doesn't actually know the answer to right away so it could be overblown uh the reaction to it at the same time i think this is something to absolutely freak out about and at as if we are actually going to see a draft in this country because if they are serious uh then which is very possible that they will just do it and uh i guess robby me and you are probably a little bit too old now we

49:43might just make it too fat to serve i'm going to i'm going to i'm going to print those t-shirts for the fans too fat to serve don't draft me everybody's going to stop taking their olympic yeah i'm going to be throwing that in the trash the stock of that company is going to plummet nest as all americans try to get too fat yeah suddenly suddenly everyone's going to be taking their uh fitness influencer content offline to be like i'm out of shape i can't serve um all right on the on the on the question of the draft i'm getting nervous about uh potentially more tech censorship coming our way uh and i what do you think we're going to start seeing wartime censorship over you know podcasts like this like we did during covid to try and uh convince the american people that we're winning yes unfortunately uh i want to say that maybe our our bailout here is the administration seems absolutely inept uh that you know there's a lot of

50:44things that happen during this war so far that really indicate that the us didn't seem even fully prepared for this operation i mean the fact that we're now rushing 20 000 bombs to israel i mean israel didn't have a weak worth of bombs are two weeks worth of bombs and so we're now rushing you know these things just all indicate a very disorganized they don't have a coherent narrative if you ask mark a rubio f speed headset if you ask jade advance if you ask down trump if you ask the press secretary you're going to get five different answers on why this was started and what our objectives are and how long it might last i mean key questions right you know the basic talking point outline right the one page memo that you assume all of them read and you know when they ask you why this were started you say this when they ask you how long this war will ask you say this the the administration's unable to do that however there has been so much control over our media that that's been consolidated by

51:46affective actors like the elison family and so i do think we're going to see a good amount of censorship i'm not sure if uh Elon is going to be on board for this war so maybe we'll get a break over at uh at sin you know one interesting thing robby is there are some classic neocons who don't seem on board with this you know bill crystal i see on that uh going after trump for this war and so uh you know maybe you won't see the kind of lockdown censorship on sites like youtube because uh the leadership to me seems more reflexively liberal and maybe this is where they would stand up and pretend like they have free speech values well i think we've hit a low with Donald trump that he does not seem to be concerned with the support of the base of the party anymore uh last week made an announcement hey like we're not doing deportations essentially we got some good people here and companies need workers i i'm going to play the clip on the next run your mouth uh but i'm just

52:48starting to see that it feels like trump is pure deep state and he just doesn't care which makes me really nervous uh because you know he's making us look i defended this guy i while i was rooting for him against kamaul harris i did not vote for him and i even said uh you can you can go watch it on sam tripley show when i we were getting into the beginning of Donald trump i said i'm a little concerned with iran and i think he's gonna be better on tech censorship but if there's like uh if if for on the israel support category that might make a comeback i definitely said something pretty close to that if that wasn't like the exact quote um okay so i'm getting nervous about for all we heard about donald trump's a dictator and i was like all right that's ridiculous like guys you know he's got some faults but that's not it i'm getting a little bit nervous for when the next two years might be going as he seems to just not care about pleasing his base at all and just going with uh somebody else's agenda and what it might take for him to kind of continue to push forward with it

53:51in terms of risks of where donald trump's going do you think if this war gets ugly enough and bad enough and too expensive for the united states and and israel that there's a possibility of us or israel nuclear new king iran uh i'm very concerned about it i have asked a lot of my guests you know Larry Wilkerson Douglas McGregor and the answer i have gotten is they're concerned about then yahoo using a nuclear bomb i'm myself i'm i'm concerned about trump using a nuclear bomb uh if this comes to a point where the us does run out of interceptors uh our our bombers have hit all the targets they could find in iran and now you know these bombing missions you know they take 40 50 hours sometimes to fly from air bases in the middle east to the iran and back you know that's a lot of flight hours on planes that need a lot of maintenance that we don't have a whole lot of like if the us isn't able to keep bombing

54:52iran and the us doesn't have interceptors and the straight-of-four moves is shut down and oil is a hundred and fifty a hundred and seventy five god forbid two hundred dollars of barrel the economy is bad and there's no other path to victory i can't say that he wouldn't i mean robby i'm like you i spent you know to uh by 2015 i was doing this right i've been doing this for a decade and one of the first big stories that i covered podcasting was russia gay being an absolute hoax it hoats and this idea of trumpy and a nazi was absolutely stupid and that the only pro nazi thing he did during his first administration was armed to ukrainians and that's the only thing that the liberals chaired a mom for and if you looked at his first administration he was actually an inept administrator right he wasn't eight-off Hitler or Joseph Stalin or Lenin or Mao who were able to give orders and have them followed he was constantly undermined and ineffective and wasn't

55:57able to enact his immigration agenda or even his foreign policy particularly when it came to you know rolling back the american empire they straight apply to him about how many troops were in syria in order to wait out Donald trump and then keep the occupation of syria right the you know the court orders at the beginning of his first administration blocked all of his immigration restrictions and this time around it is a completely different Donald trump now maybe we were wrong and this was always the guy that he was he was always at the authoritarian and when he got to the second administration he was not going to give a fuck anymore and turn into this absolute dictator i think it has maybe a lot to do with age in the fact that they tried to throw him in jail during the time that he was out of office and that he's too stupid to understand how they stole the 2020 election from him and so he's like going in a blind rage about the the mail-in votes and things like that when he doesn't

57:00realize they use the media and covid in the the black lives matter protests and things like that against him um and so i'm really worried about where trump is going on at the authoritarian authoritarian crackdown angle i really wasn't you know i saw some a lot of people speculating that he wasn't playing to hold the midterm elections and i wasn't concerned about that but then he launched to war with 23 percent support i mean even if Donald if Donald trump holds the midterm elections it's going to be worse than a bloodbath for the republicans i mean and then even worse robby he let all the democrats vote against the war with the war powers resolution and so chuchoomer and all the democrats that are pro israel that are pro war with the ron got to go on record voting against that war while all the republicans voted for it and so this war is going on in september october november and we have the elections and there's a hundred dead american soldiers and american

58:03bases are burning in the middle east and ron is still fiery missiles i can't see anybody going to vote for a republican all right so now let's uh let's uh let's talk about the Kurds for a second here uh the biggest suckers and all of human history keep making the mistake of uh partnering with the united states for america donald trump said that he's not going to be partnering with the Kurds the way i read that is that the Kurds actually turned them down and so of course donald trump got on the news and when i'm not going to partner with a bunch of losers these guys keep losing i'm not interested they really do that no he didn't actually no he just said i could 100 percent believe it robby he just said we're not uh we're not we're not going with the Kurds uh what do you think is the likelihood of uh a ground invasion actually taking place because my guess is that just makes this disaster even worse ground invasion i think is likely i don't think they're going to use the Kurds uh the iraki pesh marga are which is the iraki kurnish military

59:04is very happy with the the situation that they have in iraq and if they go to war in iran i think that starts a civil war in iraq between the iranian bad forces in iraq and the iraki Kurds and also the iraki Kurds have also been a standalone Kurdish group for some time uh you know people like to talk about the the Kurds need their own state that would stretch from iran to turkey which is Kurdistan but the different Kurdish factions are different i mean the ypg which is the Syrian Kurds and the pkk which is the turkish Kurds are close but the pesh marga has actually worked with the turkish government against the pkk and the ypg so i don't think they're interesting they're not i don't think they're interested in getting involved in a war with the iranian government uh for the iranian Kurds and by the way i i do think that the cia did something really really nasty robby uh so natasha bird trend who was one of the major russia gator she's

1:00:08definitely a deep state asset in the mainstream media is the one who reported that the iraki Kurds were likely going to war for the united states i think what they were trying to do is they had approached the Kurds and the Kurds said no so they then lead this to the press hoping the iranians would overreact and attack the Kurds and then draw the Kurds into the conflict that way right like they're trying to they're they're willing to start a civil war in a rock to fracture the iranian state i do think we're going to end up seeing us ground forces in a ron at the very least i think they're going to try to go in and uh take a ron 60% enriched nuclear uh iranium i think they have what amounts to i had to lick it up in pounds because everybody always has 400 kilograms but i have no idea what that means it's about a thousand pounds it could apparently fit in about six scuba odds to maintain that you will put on your mask that's that's about the

1:01:09the mass of this uh 16 not six and so uh they're going to try to locate that and get out of the country they apparently don't know where it is currently so would that be a full scale invasion or basically special forces are going in interrogating people well special forces would be the plan but that would mean that it would go to plan that they would go in that they was secured and they would leave if they try to go in and they get bought down who knows how far it escalates from there also what happens if they can't find it if they go on a raid they'd look for it maybe a couple americans die and they turn up empty empty handed also a ron has i think eight thousand uh kilograms of like between three or six or 20% enriched uranium uh which the us might want to secure as well and obviously that would take a far larger operation just based on the size and scale of the nuclear material we're talking about if we did a full scale ground invasion

1:02:12do we kick ass or are they formidable like they got a ton of solar because i know i mean it's just it's crazy i think against i racked two hundred thousand iranians died which just makes me think they're okay with a lot of death um which sounds to me like that's a difficult war you know i guess it's hard to predict the will of the iranian people in how many of them would send their sons and daughters and how many young or old iranians would enlist to fight i would assume that the us bombing of the school in the opening strike uh the fat that you know taram looks like hell right now probably rallies a lot of people you know around the flag a lot of nationalism people are wanting to enlist and so i don't think a ground invasion goes well download trump says it won't happen until the iranians are completely built being that their military is depleted uh but you know this is a far larger uh in more advanced society in military

1:03:14than the tallaban and it's you know just as mountainous as afghanistan is so it's not like the us is really going to know if the irgc is completely taken out and beaten or if they don't have weapons caches and stashes everywhere at least when you're talking about missiles that could hit the united stateships or israel you're talking about fairly large missiles uh but you know if you're talking about a ground invasion then iran is just using small rockets and you know the us has occupied uh a rot for two decades and the iraqi forces are still finding those infiring them at americans and so it's not going to be neat and easy even if the iranian military is largely beaten by the time we invade and i don't think it goes any better long term than iraqi does all right i only have a couple more questions for you and i'm realizing we completely skipped over the uh straight of her mues her mues i don't know how that's pronounced uh but you know this is one of the biggest variables in the war of course dollar trump has claimed that it's completely

1:04:15figured out and it's not uh but apparently i guess 20% of the uh world's oil flows through there and this is why you've already got countries uh or maybe it's because of the strikes but you got countries who are pulling out of their contracts and invest investments saying it's a force major uh essentially they can't meet the i guess prices that they had done futures contracts at i'm assuming of what they sold on oil or they don't have the money that they promised to make us based investments um now i got to be honest 20% doesn't sound like a doomsday number to me if you told me 90% of the oil came through here i'd be like oh we're finished i feel like we should be able to stomach a 20% like i understand i mean it's like if if oil was a buck a gallon and then you take 20 i don't know the ex-vec math but like what would gas go up to a buck 20 like it doesn't seem to me like it should be the end of the world but everyone's like this is the end this is this is this is the this is the big choke point if they uh close down the straight of her mues oil prices are gonna go up and everything's gonna you know the whole world is over so

1:05:18i ask you it firstly do they have full control over it does Donald Trump have a way to break that full control um i know Donald Trump is now socializing uh protection for oil vehicles that he's saying they're gonna escort them and uh offer them insurance or something along those lines but maybe he can give us the actual breakdown on uh on what on what the real story is there yeah i guess on the world oil economics that's just a little bit outside of my expertise in oil contracts and things like that on on how that's going to affect the markets uh we will have an article tomorrow at anti-war.com by david stopman where he gets into this a little bit and uh yeah i would check out what he kind of has an explanation in there and i can't articulate it well enough i just read it once about how you know when you're talking about oil markets it's not when you take 20% the oil supply it's a compounding go ahead um to give the short i also have to reread it because i gave it one quick skim on the on the plane but he was saying it's already a problem

1:06:24with the even just current delays and that the problem is only gonna compound for longer so he was like it he was like this is already a massive problem in terms of oil pricing and it's only gonna get worse with the with the more days that the work goes on but i didn't quite totally grasp um for some reason i i i seem to remember the the the price tag of five bucks a gallon but like you i got to reread the article yeah i i think it has to do with the this shortage problem gets worse over time and when you're talking about oil and he explains why in the article uh it's going to it's not just a 20% increase it's a doubling of the price because of i guess how valuable that oil is it's going to get bit up one thing that i i feel like i could speak a little bit more on is that there are specific countries that are very vulnerable japan south korea some of the other southeastern Asian countries uh to being cut off from Iranian oil i think maybe south korea talked about just having a couple days without having to dip into their strategic

1:07:28reserves and of course then you're talking about weats maybe months until they're they're game very desperate for oil uh you've already uh seen the trump administration lift i believe uh a temporary sanctions were approved to the indians to import russian oil i was going to bring that one up because it's uh in terms of people who are like into this we're beating russia we're beating china and the geopolitics of it that was a giant concession that Donald Trump got because at the beginning of the ukraine war it was over because basically china and uh india did not get her back and continued to buy uh natural gas from them and so we were going at it alone and so he finally got india to be like all right we're not going to buy their natural gas anymore and then as a result of this war i guess there's such few gas reserves or whatever that he turned around and said in the meantime you can go back to buying the russian uh the russian stuff which if if you think we're winning against russian china right now that seemed to me like it was a pretty big win for trump in terms of maybe trying to get some leverage against russia for a better deal

1:08:30that's a lensky might accept and that is now just out the window yeah absolutely uh the last point i was going to make is just the uh i'm pretty not Saudi Arabia as much and i believe the UAE does have the ability to export some oil through a pipeline via Saudi Arabia in the red sea which i mean i would assume on sarhala Yemen would have some ability to say no to that uh but for particularly barrain Kuwait in Qatar this is a situation where they are dependent on income from oil and if oil is not flowing out money is not coming back in and how long can you sustain your very repressive society without all the handouts and uh you know loyalty that you have through bribes that that come in through this oil revenue so i think that's a big factor in this isn't just like you know the oil being taken off the market but how it's going to impact certain countries

1:09:32and allow them seem you know very entrenched in the american orbit like the korean's the japanese and uh the golfer of states there you go well we got jack pernan 806 uh calling me out for being a dumbass with the quick reaction 20% supply drawdown does not equal 20% rise in price we'll have a ton of other inflationary effects fair enough and then we got gemry doll considering we have a fiat currency that is based on the petro bond and our currency is reaching the interest spiral reduction of the petro bond exasperates the inflation from kiwi that's like a math riddle of just of buzzwords for problems but i i do think uh we we we have benefited even though uh gene obscene has said it's not really a storyline because you can just convert money really easily but i do think that the petro dollar situation does help the dollar maybe that's just because i like conspiracy theories and i do think that our partners in the region finding out that we're not that great at protecting them and keeping their business running smoothly um might make more of a movement away from the dollar and not be this incredible outing by Donald Trump to ensure that

1:10:37there is no bricks or other currencies all right i'm gonna hit you with one more question you ready for this yeah all right i think we can all agree as much as we hate the iran war and we're going to talk out against the iran war we can't let go of the epstein files uh so this is two part question one is do you think Donald Trump launched this war as a distraction for the epstein files there was a more pressure from netting out to finally get his regime change while Donald Trump before the midterms might be able to get it done and two is this storyline about epstein funding isis actually true that was the that was the latest conspiracy there was an email uh from epstein i don't know if you saw it but i'm curious if you got any of the details on that conspiracy no i have to look at that one i've been covering iran news uh pretty much 24 7 see they're getting us we're falling sucker here buddy it's no i mean look for everybody who says they did this to distract from epstein i can't disprove it and the facts prove out that that is what's happening right and look you know especially in the independent media when you talk about

1:11:42like part of the problem and breaking points and uh you know even like tim dillon right you know we only do so many shows a week and we're all individual people for the most part and so we could only cover one major story at a time and so epstein has fallen i don't think that's the reason i think there there are multiple things going on i think a part of it is trumps hubris it has to do with house successful maduro that that operation was how much control and influence zionis have i think there's a uh christian zionis uh in christian just you know trump was sent from god to do this a belief that that really exists in the white house and i think probably contributes to trumps hubris there was a argument that mark a rubio made that i think might have kevin's trump which is iran was out producing missiles faster than the us was producing interceptor so the longer that we wait uh the more likely it's going to be that iran will be better prepared than we are

1:12:46so it waiting doesn't benefit benefit benefit us in any way uh you know i think there's probably a lot of those type of arguments that all added up with donald trump and gone to pull the trigger uh but ultimately i think a lot of it had to do with maduro being successful and donald trump wanting to be able to say he did all these great things for the country and dealt with all these problems that other presidents claim all right let's take a couple comments and we'll call it a day we'll be back with uh more coverage on one's day and of course please go file uh follow kyle show because he gets in the weeds with uh you know with the real experts all right um it we already got into the new thing jermy doll if less oil is sold in dollars then the federal reserve notes will lose value even quicker on top of the inflationary spending checks out to me um at jermy doll that's what concerns me allegedly iran dome is failing i guess the concern is that if the iran dome fails israel might result in the nukes which uh you and i have mentioned it as being a problem i don't

1:13:47know you got any other thoughts on that no i do think you know if israel is getting hit more and more and more eventually nanyahu uh could could turn to using nuclear weapons i think at least in the short term nanyahu would probably threaten to use nuclear weapons to either get the us to do more carpet bombing of aron and to try to break the will of the iranians or to get more military assets from the us liberate them before actually resorting to it right right right uh robby you know they will be wearing burkas if they weren't dead so the life is better that way there you go all right i think uh i think we had a pretty good scope of uh the current situation and uh hope to have you back on and you know hopefully hopefully good developments absolutely thanks so much uh robby i always love beyond running your mouth all right later everybody all on are we done should be done Smolive, Smolive, Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smolive Smol