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2:00soccer from the Premier League to the Champions League and beyond. Watch now on YouTube or listen wherever you get your podcasts. Please take your seats, put the latest in Tournament. Thank you. Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to 10th-A-S week, Kiwi Jo, Kim and Chris. On today's tour catch-up. Paul Garuna returns in Davis Cup Action. Is Juan Carlos Ferrero, coachy sinner in 2027? Juan Carlos Alcaraz returns to headline the Labour Cup. Chris today is the 22nd of September and we are here to catch up on the week in tennis at 10th-A-S weekly H.E. Well, it's the week plus one, but as usual, we have lots and lots to discuss on this episode. We're going to be talking about the Davis Cup Final 8, which has now been set, including

3:02Holger Runers return Great Britain through to the knockouts and USA's surprising defeat to Chekia not a great week for Ben Shelton. Jack Draper also calling it quits on the season. Joe Salisbury's retirement from tennis after a great USA Openway reached the doubles semi-finals in the men's competition with Rajiv Ram. Either Yovic doing well in Guadalajara once again. Labour Cup is coming to London. Carlos Alcaraz and Alexander Zvera are going to be there. We're going to be previewing that in the second half. Billie Jean King Cup finals are also under the way. Sadly, Great Britain are already out. And we also had Chris some cryptic comments from Juan Carlos Ferrero this week about potentially returning to coaching, returning to tennis next season. But who with we will be crystal balling, crystal gazing that in the second half. But yeah, we're recording slightly later than we would usually. I think it helps because we do have the Davis Cup Final 8 draw in Belonia.

4:04And it's also giving me a chance to come back for my holiday. It has. I thought that you were going to say that Joel and Kim are headlining the Labour Cup. Not Carlos Alcaraz. Well, of course, yes. We will be headlining the coverage. Headlining coverage for a lifetime. And it's weekly takes on the Labour Cup. You're going to be there. But you were there. You actually, Joe, I think we should tell this with our listeners. You've had an ordeal of volcano. You know, you're to clips this before a volcano interrupted your holiday. Yes, listeners, I decided to take a post US Open Break to Italy to Sicily. And of course, what happens, the airport we chose, Catania Airport got shot because of Mount Etna erupting. Genuinely, it was very stressful 24 hours. But it was all good in the end, Chris, because I got to my, we got to our hotel in, in Sicily. And I did see some tennis on the television. There was super tennis tennis channel.

5:06And it had the coverage of Stau Paulo. And I was like, you can never be too far from some tennis coverage. Yeah, you went straight for the WT250, which shows where you're at now, Joel. And I should have been like, I should be going like, what's the main tourist attraction? And I was like, quick, get me the Stau Paulo 250. I was a bit worried if that was an indicator that maybe it wasn't quite as good as you thought it was when you got there if you're watching Stau Paulo. But I mean, but also was playing. There are a few people to watch. But I mean, you can never escape tennis, Joel, even on weeks off, you manage to find your passion to continue viewing. And actually, for the Italian fans, a bit jealous, they got that coverage. Was that on terrestrial TV? Yeah, well, this is, this is what I find amazing is you go to another country. I don't know if other listeners appreciate this. You go to another country and tennis is just on free TV. And it's just great. And it's just like on all the time. Like whenever I've got it in Italy, do you think? But super tennis on. Super tennis, I like the name as well. Yeah, it is a good name. It is a good name. But yeah, super tennis was part of my whole day, but I did get in some

6:09any site scenes. I did actually, I mean, I went to Talmina. A lot of the Americans there. I know we have a lot of American listeners. Must be the white Lotus effects. The white Lotus effect. But there were some lovely clay tennis courts that genuinely, I just wanted to just open the sort of the padlocked gate and just go on, try and find a racket and balls and just break an enter and start playing. You know, the clay seasons overjole. How to get how to get rejected from. Imagine, imagine that was an update we could give Joel that you have actually been arrested in Sicily for breaking into a tennis court. But Kim's not with us this week. We can give you the update. She has got a pretty good bill of health now compared to where she was and she's primed like a coil spring to leap into action for the labor cup. So she will be, well, she'll be leading that coverage with you Joel. Yeah, we're very excited for that. More on that to come, but we're going to kick off with our episode. Our return to our first tour catch up.

7:09I don't remember what these are like Joel. Since, yes, since the USA open ended, what has happened? I find it funny in these weeks where I think nothing happens. Everything happens. There's like so many talking points already to discuss. And I actually want to kick things off, which, which, what I think is the biggest talking point. And in the build up to the labor cup Carlos Alcras has been doing some, some press, some clips that have been circulating on social media. And he's been talking about his haircuts. And I know we'd love to talk about haircuts. I know we love to talk about cars. Our car has his hair cut. Well, now we have the official ranking from him in terms of all his hair styles and Chris, I'm going to, I'm going to go up from six to one with his hair styles. And I want you to give me your opinions of the rankings. Yes. So he is saying six at number six position is the braids. Look, number five is the ball look. I'm going to say skinhead look, maybe.

8:11Number four is normal hair Alcras. Number three blonde caras. Number two, my look. My look. And then number one, I feel like he's obliged to say this current hair caras. Right. I actually think this man knows what he's doing because this is a pretty good list. The only one I might swap, I think bald would probably, I mean, braids is pretty bad. Maybe that does stay there, but I didn't love the mallet. I quite like blonde caras. Yes. I would put blonde caras at number one personally. I like current hair more because I do like, I do think he looks like more put together as a package, you know, brand Alcras. So I mean, he knows what's what. Kitty, he's like listening to what people are saying online because there's pretty much memories up with the backlash he got for each one of them. But Joel, your favorite blonde caras? Yeah. Like I say, I think it's got to be. I saw put braids at the bottom. Yeah. That was a swing in the mishap, wasn't it?

9:11Yeah. Big, big. I don't think he's going to go back there. But I do so. I do hope blonde caras returns at some point. Maybe, maybe it will. Maybe it won't. I mean, I guess the question is, what are the hair styles? What are the hair styles? Could he add to the list? He's done all of it. Listeners do tell us. Well, in more importantly, Mohawk. Mohawk. He's kind of done it with the mallet, but yeah, I mean, he's really taking off all of these things. Some fun colors, blue hair, purple hair, bit of purple rints. Love that. Yeah, I was going to say one. And Shflag. It's a Spanish flag. For Davis Cup, there you go. Olympics. That would be fabulous. We gave him the idea, please credit us if you do it. But Joel, a player that comes up a lot that I know you're very passionate about. And you've seen our own all-level of toy action, Harmony Tan, the Serena Williams Conqueror. The Samurai. The Shadowed recently by my joint. Yes, she has. She's lost that title. But she's stepping out of the shadow again,

10:12because she is in the news this week, isn't she? She is. You sent this to me. So I can't really take credit for this, because you are on Harmony Tan Watch. She's got married in Versailles, the city hall, her partner Pauline. So that's some very nice news. And I think that now she will be going down in history, not just on tennis weekly for the victory over Serena and the fact we keep bringing her up, but also because there's some nice news can be in the algorithm as well. But I thought that was a fun one to share. And I just love the fact that this is on your holiday, you're sharing Harmony Tan updates. I thought, sure, who she must be playing over there. No. Well, there was actually one other headline that I just did not think I was going to be sharing anytime soon. But I don't know if you saw this as well. Anna Blinkerver has officially switched her nationality from Russia to France. Right. So she's now the French number two. She's just ranks inside the top 100.

11:13Is now the French number two. But yeah, I this also came out of nowhere as well. I mean, it's quite worrying that she's number 94 when the French number two. I'm shocked by that. Clearly desperate. Who's still in the boots for Caroline Garcia? I mean, does this mean she can officially be the new Renaissance? Is Anna very true? I'm not sure. But that is, we're seeing the Exodus. I definitely think from Russian athletes shifting. We've seen more of them. Casakina, Potapova. I think we're going to see even more of me, even Rebecca. So I'm not surprised by the move, but unsur... Well, quite surprised that she's headed over to France. But I mean, they need her for the Davis Cup immediately. Oh, the tennis balls, the tennis balls have already... It's carnage. The tennis balls have come down. They're not happy in my background. It's the FFT, the furious of what we're saying. The tennis balls are forward of them, Joe's background list. They're probably also furious that they did not make the final eight of the Davis Cup, which we're going to be getting onto. But yeah, two big shots.

12:14France and the United States, not there. We do have the set, though. Italy, Spain, Germany, Czech Republic, South Korea, Canada, Austria, Great Britain. They will all be fighting it out in Bologna towards the end of November. We'll get to the draws in a set, Chris. But let's talk about the good and the bad from the ties that we saw this week. And we've got to start with the tie that saw... Well, it wasn't actually the kind of... One of the ties for the final eight, but still big news. And it's Holger Runer returning to tennis action with Denmark. He played two singles matches, had a great win against Grigor Dimitrov, real nail-byter, 7-6, 7-4 in a final set, tie-break, also defeated Radulov on the Friday in his first match. And that was his first match since tearing his left Achilles last October. Chris, this has been a long time coming. I think we spoke about a potential Holger runer return,

13:17like three, four months ago. It felt like he wanted to come back for French Open, then it felt like he wanted to come back for Wimbledon, and it kept not happening and not happening. But it's now finally happened. And he looked pretty good on the tennis court. I've got to say. He did. I was there when he got that injury. It was horrible to watch. And I think there was a lot of optimism, you know, from Camp Holger and probably his mother as well, who's big, big supporter of his, I'm trying to get him back sooner. But I mean, we did say at the time it tends to be about, you know, 12 months, you know, 10 months, is probably about what we'd expect. And it was, um, 335 days, which is about 11 months, Joel. So a long time coming, I think people are very happy to see him back in. I thought it was very bold to do it in front of your home crowd, because he hasn't always loved the spot like that. I think it's actually been something where being like a one player nation for the men's side, it can add even more pressure. So I was so impressed by how he handled the moment. And, you know, Dimitra was up at times, Holger was up at times. He'd let her lead slip. Dimitra, I've got back into it and then he won on a tie break.

14:19So it really was clutch. And it's so hard to do that on your comeback. So a huge win. And it's quite nice that, you know, we are talking about the trenches of David Davis Cup. We're not only talking about those countries that made the final eight. We are very much, you know, um, we're talking about Denmark, which I like, because I live there, Joel. I mean, where do you see, where do you, what's in store for Holger Runa, do you think after this comeback? Because it sounds like he wants to hit the ground running, play lots of events. I mean, his words, he has said, my ideal comeback would be to find a really good rhythm here at the end of season, at the end of the season and get as many matches as possible, maybe reach a few semi-finals or however far I can go, and then head into a good off season and be a beast in Australia. Do you think like that's the right perspective in terms of how to approach the, the rest of the season and actually thinking, you know, this is just a bit of fun, you know, getting back to loving the game, because I imagine he's had a lot of hard times over the last,

15:21you know, year or so, and really kind of mount a serious kind of comeback, or this means business for 2027. Sorry, being a beast in Australia. What does that involve? I think I've got that quote correct. I think that's what he, in his words, but yeah, seven certainly some focus on 2027. Beast mode Australia, well, I mean, that sounds like quite the prospect. I think his schedule looks pretty jam-packed, and again, there's been a lot of excitement. Are you concerned about that? I am, I think. I don't think it makes that... This is surprised with how much he is planning to play, but we don't know how far he's going to go in all these tournaments. I think... Yeah, you could be one match and then, you know, it's perfectly manageable, but again, if he's looking for rhythm, I think he's saying this is the plan for the rhythm, but then he's never ever listened to his body holder. So, I'm not surprised that he might not be now. I do hope he does take stock after each of those tournaments and reassess his rather than just at the end of that run, because I mean, a lot of players are kind of dialing their season down. Maybe he sees it as a big opportunity to get points

16:22and get the ranking up, but at the same time, I think, preparing for Australia, and if you know you're in a good spot, it doesn't really matter who you're drawing as long as you haven't got, you know, Yannick Sinner and Round One. He's going to have a great chance. So, I think it's great that he's back in, you know, he's been eyeing up tennis from afar. I think he's going to fancy his chances, you know, when it comes to potentially getting his name on a grandstump trophy. The kids really love that playhouse, huh? Yeah, it's not just a child's playhouse, it's a rental property. Kids, off-carries roof! Someone lives in there? Lives, works, and thrives. Your wife, I reaches all the way to the playhouse? We're good galee-nairs. It reaches everywhere. Can I check it out? Sorry. Booked solid, but the treehouse just opened up. Live without limits. Get home internet from AT&T and cover your whole house. Even your playhouse turned rental property. AT&T extended Wi-Fi-covered service required. Limited availability. Visit AT&T.com-fore-slash-internet to learn more. Therapy's biggest impact doesn't show up in some dramatic breakthrough. It shows up in the smallest moments. You bite your tongue instead of escalating.

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18:27Growtherapy.com-startnow. Availability and coverage vary by state and insurance plan. And I think also, maybe not right now, but I think if you look at his record against Sinner and Alchraz, he's one of the few players, you can say, can challenge them. He's got a two-to-head record against Alchraz. He's won two matches against Yannick Sinner as well. So I feel like it's going to add a bit more competition if he can get back to where he was. I think he really relishes playing those players. I think he saw them maybe when he was kind of as a junior growing up, they're all kind of in the same conversation. And perhaps they've pulled away a little bit. And I think he will be motivated by that on his return. Do you feel like he can get back to where he was? I mean, it was in Achilles' rupture. This is not an easy injury to come back with. We've seen players in the past, like Dominic team, for example, struggle with making

19:30comebacks and trying to make big jumps back up rankings. Do you see any issues there with Holger Runeau? Do you think that, you know, is it going to be more like Alexander Zverev, who, you know, has come back from that terrible injury he suffered at Roland Garros and, you know, is playing some of the best tennis in his career right now? I think it's a blip. I think these things happen. And, you know, he will get it back. We've seen so many great recoveries. You know, he could even do like a Sloan Steve. And so she had a stress fracture in her foot in 2017 and then went on to win, you know, the US Open and said she wasn't even like a peak fitness then, but she was just playing so freely because she was surprised by her level and how it was working out. So I think if you can see it as an opportunity that's like a free hit, you know, you can get yourself in some great situations and, you know, the pressure's off and maybe these moments matter more and you appreciate them more. Because I think sometimes it has got a little bit desperate in terms of kind of what Holger has wanted and where that dream's been and it's gotten the way of his ability. So let's hope this is like a fresh start for him and it seems like, you know, winning too much of your country is a great place to start.

20:31Yeah, well, I have to see if his schedule changes because I do think, yeah, that is something that he maybe needs to manage a little bit more. But I'm going to say now, Holger Runa, calendar slam incoming 2020 beast mode. He's an awesome. He's a bit stupid to predict that. Yeah. Right. Let's talk about some of the other ties that happened in the kind of the top tier, including great Britain. And this was an interesting one because they defeated Ecuador 4-0, not really much to say about the performances, Chris. But I think what's interesting here is just all the British news stories that have happened in the context of this tie because we've had Jack Draper announced that he is not going to be playing anymore this season. He's looking to come back in 2027. We've had Joe Solzbury doubles legend for great Britain also announced his surprise retirement from tennis. And whilst all that has happened, we've had no, no Camnory as well. We've relied on some real kind of new stars, Arthur Ferry, who had that great run at

21:33Wimbledon in the singles, Toby Samuel as well, playing the number two position. And yeah, they're just kind of getting it done. No kind of problems. A few little blips here and there, but all in all, very, very solid and very, very promising given, as I say, all the players that didn't play that actually there is strength in, there is strength in depth here. Yeah, you always say that it's good when you can rotate a little bit if you need to. Having like strength in numbers really does help when it comes to fitness and knowing that, you know, Camn, it doesn't always rest on his shoulders. And Arthur Ferry was able to put in a really comprehensive performance as well. So genuinely, I was very impressed with how the boys did. I think when you are a favourite, it can also lead to that sort of difficult situation where, you know, you're playing people with nothing to lose. So very assured performance. And then when it comes to the other British news, I mean, for Joe Salsbury quickly, I think he's talked a lot about how he had so much anxiety, like really, really severe anxieties.

22:37He's been so transparent and done a lot for those who do have anxiety in sport. And he talked about like all the challenges he's had and he had that time off. So I think this was like a last hurrah. He wanted to play a little bit more finished with, you know, Regifram and have that moment and then, and then be done with it. And I think what a career and I think he's not going to miss it. I think it wasn't the best environment for him by the end. So I think celebrating his career is the perfect thing, rather than thinking about, you know, could he have kept going? I think it was the right time for him. And I think actually this timing makes a lot of sense. I think his career was so heavily, him and Regifram's career so heavily entwined with the US Open. I mean, they won it three times, three in a row, 2021, 2021, 2020. Or finals in a row as well for him. Yeah, that's, I mean, that's, that's incredible. So to go out here, I think, you know, after that last hurrah, I mean, reaching the men's semi-finals as well, it did make me question like, where did this form come from? But I think when you know it's your last chance, it gives you that extra step, you know, going out on top is going out on top.

23:37I mean, just on Jack Draper as well, he posted last week that he will be looking to come back in 2027. He made a long Instagram post about. A very long Instagram. Yeah. It looks like he's enjoying his time off now. I've spotted he was, was he? Is that London Fabri? Yeah, it's looking very fashionable. I'm sort of worried. I'm like, he's going to be a model. Yeah, don't think this is your career. Oh, it's got to make some money. You know, he's not making on court money anymore. Yes, I mean, but yeah, I mean, what did you, I felt like this was, this was inevitable in, in some respects. But yeah, how did you kind of react to this news? I mean, it wasn't that big of a surprise. And I'm actually almost a little bit relieved that he's not trying to force it again any time soon. And he's giving his kind of bone bruise and trying to manage that a bit more time before kind of coming back with a fresh slate next season. I mean, from a distance, it's very obvious he should not have been playing this year.

24:40I think it's very, very clear that this was a head over heart decision. It was a real desire to try and to see if it was possible. Can you understand it given, you know, you had Wimbledon right in the summer, your home tournament and the fact that he's just not been in grand slams, like even in the main draws of late. I think it must be so hard to sit on the sidelines, especially when you practice and you think you have the level. So I can't talk about how I would be in that situation. But I think if you're advising him, I think you really shouldn't have been advising him to keep coming back. I think it's actually worse for you to get that, like get a win over, know about Jocke of it and then have to sit out or miss Wimbledon or do the Prasal Wimbledon and then not get to play it. I think it's even kind of further torture, it's like turning the screw really. And that's where I think this statement is a bit of a non-statement because we all know that he shouldn't be playing tennis right now. It feels like that when he explains the injury, he talked about not understanding it and everyone just says it takes time. So I'm glad that he's made that realization.

25:40It's a bit strange it coming now, you know, I think coming back in 2020. 2027 makes sense of the interesting to see where that happens. And hopefully that path now will mean that he can come back fully healed because I think it was quite clear he wasn't able to be playing. The load was too much. So we love Jocke. We wish him all the best. He's such a nice guy and I think he just really wants to get back up there because he was so dedicated to it. But similar to Holger, like you can't rush a comeback. And I think we've seen that the effects of when you do it doesn't necessarily mean you're getting closer to being that level you want to. Yeah, I agree. I mean, it's a shame. Yeah, looking at his Grand Slam record. He's been absent from all the Grand Slam's this year. He withdrew before his second round match at the US Open in 2025 as well. So you have to go back all the way to Wimbledon 2025 where he had, I mean, he had a second round there. Yeah, exactly. It's been a long time. I understand how that has probably built up over time for a player who's reached a US Open

26:46semi-final. I can't understand how itchy you want to be to get back, but you can't rush these things, especially with the sort of injury that he has. So yeah, we wish Jack Draper all the best. I mean, Chris, we just got to quickly talk about the US because they lost to Czechia. It wasn't great news for Ben Shelton. Is now, I mean, how time can change in a week, Chris? I mean, he's now on a three match losing streak lost to Menshik and Lehechka in the singles, in the singles, rubbers against Czechia and they lost three to overall. I just got to ask you just on Ben Shelton. Should he have played this, this tie? To me, it felt a lot to go from the highs of a US Open final to the lows of being defeated by Zverev. And then three days later, being asked to go to another continent and play some quality

27:50players, quality singles players in Lehechka and Menshik and be asked to step up. Where do you stand on Shelton's appearance for Four America and how much he was used? He's already said he's not playing Lehechka. He's been replaced by Nakashima. But yeah, where do you see this with Davis Cup? I mean, it's definitely not a great way for him to rebound. That's for sure. And you do put a risk in there. You can never say that representing your country isn't something you should encourage. I think it's a tricky decision to make and I think he probably wanted to make sure. And it's so important for the Americans. They really do feel that pull in that way. They do have strength in depth in numbers as well. But also he knew that they were playing against Chakia who are so strong. So you need your top players playing. I mean, he was competitive in both of those matches. And Chakia, when they're playing at home, they're going to be so dangerous, especially

28:52those two players who have had great results previously. So I think it's a tough gig. I think you have to commend him for playing it. But it means very, very obviously he was kind of spurred on by his victory with his result. Sort of a homecoming. Yeah, it's kind of what made. I think it made sense for him. I struggled to see it from a Shelton point of view. I've been reading about the opposite of selfish, though. And you have to commend that. And also, I think, you know, there might be other factors at play. I think there's been talk around Olympics eligibility, particularly for Americans with Los Angeles. I can understand the pull for that. So that perhaps was a factor as well. But I think if you take that out of the equation, I think great that he stepped up. But perhaps maybe wasn't in the right frame of mind and was too quick of a turnover. But it was a proper Davis Cup tie, though. This was like down to the wire. Yeah, it was a standout. But it was once again, the Americans are not anywhere really to be seen.

29:52At least it wasn't Finland that beat in this time. Right. That's right. I mean, just just quickly, just overall on on the US, what is it about? You know, we've just spoken about their strength and depth. I mean, arguably, their stock isn't can't really even be any higher at the moment. We've got Fritz, Tiafo, Shelton, Nakashima, Tien, Mikkelsen. The list really goes on. But why does this keep happening to United States? I feel like I'm a broken record here. We've done this podcast for so many years. And we asked this question so many times. It's not necessarily always just the men either, but why do you think it happens that a tennis nation as formidable as the United States with the prestige and the history that they have, particularly in the men's event, just can't seem to consistently get to where a lot of fans and a lot of people around the world expect them to? I think hunger comes into it a lot. And I think they have really big personal ambitions.

30:52So that's why I think, I mean, Benchel to playing is very, very important. They haven't always been at full strength when they've gone out and not made the last eight or not made the semi-finals or had a deep run. So I guess some of these other nations, they punch up off their way. You know, they're playing for something bigger. I mean, America has a target on its back from the perspective of people really want to beat them. It's the David versus Goliath story. You know, Jackie versus the United States. I mean, that's that's huge. So I think it's a tricky spot to be in. And I think, you know, they do play best when they're at home. And it's so European dominated now. I mean, the finals are in Italy. They have not been in the States for some time now. So I also think there's that element that even if they do make the finals, it's not the environment where they're going to thrive because there's no support for them there. And they feed off that support. So I think it's kind of twofold in that way. And I would love to see from the women's side as well the state's going deeper because it is quite strange how it's so European oriented when there's so many great American players on both sides.

31:53Yeah, I agree. I almost feel like no one takes the responsibility. It feels like, oh, Tommy Paul's not going to play this week. Don't worry. Frances Ciafo will step in. To the next time. Get a Paul strike team out. Yeah. Get Tommy Paul playing with Taylor Fritz in the doubles. Bring back that bronze medal winning pair. Well, they're silver. They did well though. Yeah, they did. They did do well. They have our final eight set Italy versus South Korea, Czechia versus Canada, Germany, Great Britain, Spain, Austria, Chris final thoughts on the final eight. GB are unseeded. Got Germany. That feels quite, quite tough. Is this is just Italy's for the taking? Do you think? I think second singles could be very interesting for GB. I think that could be an interesting one. I mean, if you're playing, you know, you've got Arthur and Cam potentially against his Variv and you think, well, who would be the number two that would be kind of the real weapon there? Doubles, obviously Germany very strong. So I'm not accounting out the boys from Britain. I think we have a good chance there.

32:55I mean, I don't think the Korean Republic is going to take out Italy if I'm being honest. I think we could get Italy, Czechia, semi, could be good. Could be. It could be. Yeah. I think we could get a winner in the final to leave us. That would be interesting. We would love to see it, you know? Well, we shall see. Listen, let's say who do you think is going to end up as the Davis Cup champion this year. We do have the final eight set. But let's quickly, Chris, move on to some WTA events we had also this week in Guadalajara and São Paulo. We have either Yovic defending her Guadalajara open title. Guadalajara 500 in the final against Patent's turn six four six two. And then we also had Quavado play our not totally familiar with Caitlin, Quavado from Spain, defeat Podrosca in São Paulo in three sets.

33:55So Quavado and Yovic are the champions. What are your thoughts out in South America on the women's side? As Quavado is another up and coming player, Spanish player, I'm sure Kim will be telling us all about her in the in the future podcasts. And then Evie Yovic is a bit more of a known quantity, but really still going from strength to strength. Yeah, a great one of the US open. And then Quavado, I think a lot of people brought up that Venus Williams result where she was kind of being in straight sets. I think it was in Madrid. So that results not looking quite as bad in the Venus Redemption arc there. But I mean, Podrosca not seen her about recently. I mean, this is an incredible story. She's been, I mean, talk about Hogoruna being on the shelf for 11 months. I think Podrosca has been on the shelf for 15 months coming back into the WTA tour proper. I think she's played underneath 250. I think she's played some one to five level events. But I mean, yeah, great run from her to get to the final. I honestly thought she was going to do it.

34:56I mean, you would love it. I mean, you were on your holiday. You were almost missing your next flight home because you're watching the final. But I mean, I'm quite excited. Three and four over Badosa. Badosa, Badosa, I thought she was on for the title. I really did. I also liked it's event that Stephanie and Debrowski, they won it at home, which was also quite nice. But I mean, Sloane Stevens made it to a quarter final. That has to get a mention. It had set points, he had patents done. So she got very close to making it to, I would say, you know, if final, the semi final, so maybe she's going to put together a good season next year. I'm feeling optimistic about that, Joel. Could that be possible? Are you going to get on the hype train with me? I will. I'm saying no more. I'm with you in the Potter Oscar high train. And I think with either Yovic as well, she's going from strength to think, I think she's letting the tennis do the talking. I think, you know, I already feel now a lot of the conversation with her is her and her rivalry, a budding rivalry with Alexandra Yala. There's a part of me that sometimes wonders if she's even able to kind of step out of

36:00that shadow just because of the social media noise and the fandom around Yala. But I think if you look at the results, I mean, Yovic, if she has a really good Asian swing, I don't think potentially WTA tour finals is out of the question. A late surge, you never know. A potential late surge. So yeah, she could be definitely want to watch over the Asian swing. Right, we're going to take a quick break now. Do join us in the second half where we will be discussing who is Juan Carlos Ferreiro coaching next season. Big question. Alexandra Yala facing a possible $10,000 fine for participating in the Asian games. And we preview the laver cup as it heads back to London with Carlos Alcras and Taylor Fritz in action. So do not go anywhere. Hi, boy, Van Max here. Barry's here too. Hello. Premier League is back. Barry, meaning we're providing incredibly astute analysis three times a week wherever you get your podcasts. Barry, with the remaining 10 seconds of this ad, can you provide some astute analysis?

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39:03I actually thought about it last night. Right. Any fat checking? Have you done any? Once again, I read it. No, I'm joking. I have got this from Wikipedia, but I have fact-checked this as well. I question for you and our listeners, is this? And it is Lever Cup related because the Lever Cup is returning to London and the O2 Arena for the first time since 2022. I would like you to name me any of the players who played in the 2022 event when it was last in London. And there are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 players on Team World and there are 8 players on Team Europe, one of the Team World players withdrew and I don't think was replaced based on what

40:04I'm looking at. And bonus points, if you can give me multiple answers in one go. I could definitely do that because this was of particular note I believe because a certain Roger Federer was retiring and that was the big four we're playing in a match together in a warm up match so I'm going to go for all four in one. I'm going to set four. I'm going to set four. No, I will set it at 8. I'll set it at 8. Okay, well give me four points already. I'm halfway there. Murray Federer, Jocovic and Nadal. That is correct, very good. Yes, Murray, Nadal, Federer, Jocovic, yes, all on Team Europe. I now just get tricky. So we'll go for Americans that were likely there. I think Taylor Fritz would have been there. That is correct, very good. That is five correct answers.

41:06Francis T.F. I always plays it, I think. That is correct, very good. Francis T.F. on the list. He was actually in as a replacement. Oh really? So that's six. I have memories of Casparoude being, or was he, did he play with Federer? Was he, I have a vision of him being there. That is true, yes. Correct answer. He was ranked number two when he played. Team sleep. Good time, good time. Yes, so that is seven correct answers. You got one more to reach par for the courts. I think Sitsapas would have been there at the time. He does like a labor cut moment. Love to wear a suit and pumps about a little bit. Sitsapas? Mm-hmm. That is correct, very good. Yes, Sitsapas on the list. So yes, you have achieved par for the courts. I see if I get any others. If I had to go for on an alternate, based on the fact that Arthur Ferries on the alternate

42:08list, I reckon was Nori on the alternate list. He was on the alternate list, very good. And then, US players. Oh, sorry, I can't call it US. Felix. Felix was there, yep, very good. I was thinking, was Serundalo around at that point? No, no, there was an Argentinian though. I play a We Have Interviewed many times on the other courts. Oh, Diego Schwartzman. Diego Schwartzman is on the list. That is correct. Jack Sock wouldn't have been around at that point. He's been a bit down. No, Jackson was a correct answer. In 2022. He was a pickleballing then. He had a rank of 128. And for some reason, he was on the list. A wild card. I'm out. Anyone else? OK. The other players you could have given me. Was Alcoraz there? No. No Carlitos. The other team-Europe players. There's one more. And it was another alternate.

43:10Mateo Beratini. Was he not right enough to get in? What was that? He would have been in peak Beratini at that point. And then for Team World, yes, we had Jack Sock. We had Tommy Paul. Alex Domenore. Should have got that one. And the player who withdrew prior to the tournament, another American. Final American. John Isner. Goodness, I would not have got that. So now we know. Well, that's really wet my appetite for the Labour Count starting very shortly. Yes, indeed. We'll be previewing it very, very soon. How do you get on the team? We don't know, do we? You got eight. Eight and then a few. And then a few more. I'll take that. Fantastic result. Well, as soon as I just passed and then I was like, done. Lisses, let us know how did you get on with our Labour Cup themed par for the courts for the week? We're going to be moving on to Mailbag, though. And we had an email from Graham saying,

44:12Juan Carlos Ferrero says he's planning to return to the tour in 2027 as a coach. But when asked who he'll be working with, he said, I can't say with whom. So tennis weekly, who do you think Ferrero is talking about? Great question. Yeah, Graham, this is hot news. This is such a hot topic. We've got a Google alert on it because the rumors are wild. So Joel, do we tackle it? Head on. Is it Makashima? Makashima Summer. You know, I mean, Juan Carlos Ferrero and Makashima Winter could be coming. But I mean, firstly, interesting he's coming back. I didn't think he was really going to make the move to golf. Remember, that was, I was like, hang on. Yeah. I don't think he's got the pedigree in that area. So the obvious answer that you'd think would be, hmm, Spanish player in need of a big time coach, Hodda would be a very, well, a very obvious leap to make considering the fact that he has said that he will be introducing others

45:14to his camp aside from his father. So that could be an interesting one. You've been two and two together that? Well, I mean, you can also put a two together in other ways. But I think I'll put two and two together in another way and made four goals. So I'm not sure what actually this means. But would Juan Carlos get back into bed with another potentially difficult family coaching dynamic, which people believe was a little bit of the downfall of the previous relationship because of disagreements with the family as well as kind of with the schedule side of things. So that one feels like he doesn't want to commit full time. So who would you go with? You know, is there anyone else you think in? Marida could be an option. I think Hodda is the safe bet. I think that's a very sensible choice for both players. And I think tennis will be better with Ferreiro, like back in the sport. I think he offers, he offers a lot.

46:17And I think it will be fascinating to see him, whoever it is potentially come up with players. He's formally coached like Carlos Alcras. But it does make me think that there is a wild card potential here. And I know you have spoken to me about it before. Do you believe me that we've got to tell the rumor? The rumor is, is Janic Sino. That is what the rumor is saying. And it's not completely unfounded because there are a number of reports. There's been a report by Jose Louis Clarke who said that there's this information that's been circulating as well as an Argentinian journalist, Gonzalo Ferreiros. So that's something that is online. It's catching on like wildfire. We did tweet about it and we said we couldn't really believe it because I mean, that just feels wild, especially when you think about the relationship, if they played each other.

47:18But is this a master's stroke if this were to happen? Or am I completely going up the wrong tree here? Have I lost my mind, Joel, if I'm sorry, I think this could be possible? I think it would be a great acquisition. I think it would be very... It's playing dirty, is it, though? It does feel slightly underhand, but I do think if Janic Sino and Juan Carlos Ferreiros teamed up in 2027, I think that could be a very formidable partnership. If you imagine Sino having all of that expertise in his camp on Carlos Alcaraz, it certainly I think could give him more of an edge in their rivalry. And I think at the moment, tennis is for those two to define. I know Zverev this season has won two grand sams, but for me, if Alcaraz and Sino are both healthy, I think those are the two that can almost kind of... It comes down to that matchup. You know, it comes down to it.

48:18How do I beat that player? And I think from that point of view, it would absolutely make sense to bring Ferreiro in. Ooh. But it is underhand. It's a leap, isn't it? It's a villain move if it happens. You know, I guess. Yeah. It's not... The... You know, tennis is a gentleman's sport, and it's about sportsmanship. Would this be a sporting thing that would happen? Ooh. I don't think so. I think coaching hobby, I think. Juan Carlos Ferreiro, the thing that makes me think it won't happen is because he would be way more smug of that interview. And he was not... He was a bit coy, but he wasn't necessarily like... I don't think it's... Do you think he would be motivated by how his relationship and partnership with Alcaraz ended to go to the dark side? The dark side being Janic, isn't it? Or sorry, I'm trying to spin like a Star Wars kind of scheme to it. But do you think it would be motivated to... Like, Janic, I am your father. I'm not sure how that one works, but... No Carlos, it would be, but... Yes, I think the way it went down would motivate...

49:22You know, he's been literally cast aside and no left without a contract, you know. He's been... It's not been good. And I think he's tried to let people know the ins and outs of it, but then he's kind of been a bit quieter about it now, which makes me think that something else is brewing. And if I was him, I can see why he'd do it, because it is the perfect weapon for that, because when you think about it, he knows what Carlos was trying to do to beat him, as well as how Carlos is playing his game, like what his weaknesses are. So I think it would be fascinating if that is the case. I really do. And I mean, I'm here for it. It's messy. I'm refreshing Twitter or X, as I should say, like constantly. And I'm in this mindset of like, could he? Could he really? Like, because it doesn't sound too crazy, but also, as you say, it's the damage that would do to the Alcoraz sort of sinner, sort of relationship would be fascinating. Or are we reading too deep and it's just coaches

50:22and they hop all the time? Yeah, I'm not sure. I'd be fascinating to know what Carlos Alcoraz thinks. And I wonder if there is going to be a brave person who asks him at the label. Will that be you? Will that be me for yes? I've asked, I've made you ask really brave questions before. We do love asking brave questions, and that perhaps would be the bravest question. Please do it at like the... Carlos Alcoraz. The media photoshoot in granite. Carlos. Yes. Yeah, hilarious. Hi, Podvans. Max Russian here from the chart, topping Guardian for War Weekly Podcast. Don't like to crout. If you enjoy the World Cup with us, you'll be glad to know we're back for the new Premier League season, expect three episodes of week, questionable predictions, and the biggest stories in soccer from the Premier League to the Champions League and beyond. Watch now on YouTube, or listen, wherever you get your podcasts. Meet Finn, the single customer agent made for the entire journey. From qualifying sales leads to resolving support issues, Finn works across teams, carrying context from one conversation to the next.

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52:26which is a bit sad because I was sort of hoping we would get maybe US Open Final round two between Zverev and Shelton. But that is not on the cards sadly. However, we've got some real talent on show. So, Menchick, Koboli, Hoddhar, Rudd, Zverev, Alchoraz, the team Europe, and then for Team World, we have Chien, Nakashima, Bublik, Fritz, Domenore, and Sorundolo. But you say and Ferry are the alternates as well. So, be interested and see if Ferry gets a run out as well. But yeah, what are you thinking going into this? I mean, I was looking at the head to heads between all of the players. And it is amazing to think, Carlos Alchoraz against Team World is 18 and 1. He's only defeat against a team world players to Taylor Fritz. And I think that was at last year's Lava Cup. So, it doesn't even count, doesn't it? I'll give you a lot of people will say,

53:27it doesn't really count. Yeah. Wow. That is interesting when you think about it. Um, I'm also, it's very, it's very, it's head to head against Fritz and Bublik. 10, 6 Fritz, 3, 1, Bublik. So, yes, some interesting, interesting head to head records there. Yeah, the only one he dominates is Nakashima in that one it would seem, which I didn't even know they played six times. That feels like quite a lot really. Um, I, I think if you look at the lineup, I mean, talent wise, I think you've got some, some heavy hitters, you've got the slam champions. It tends to be that way that Europe has the slam champions at the moment, of course. So it's, but it's not a stack to say has been, you know, I think if I'm team world, I'm thinking quite optimistically here that there are some good upsets on the cars and some good form players, you know, learner and Nakashima, they've been playing some really great tennis. Um, I mean, you thought that Fritz played two good matches in the US open. Uh, but again, there's some players out of form, you know,

54:28Bublik's not been in great form, Diminar. So I think it's wide open, actually. Um, but it is a little bit, you know, a little bit stacked as always in Europe's favor. Yeah, I agree. It's always feels like it's on team Europe's racket, but certainly yeah, team world, um, are coming into it as kind of defending the title from last year. What about the doubles, gentlemen? I'm just going to mention that because it's, I think what's so interesting about Levercule, one of the things most interesting is the fact that as the matches go on, the more there is at stake and it could potentially come down to the doubles. And I love how the event puts doubles potentially in, you know, in the spotlight could come down to the deciding doubles. And I always love watching singles players play doubles because it can, it just can be two singles players playing doubles together. Yeah. Maybe we've got a mixed doubles grand slam champion in our mix. I'm a men's set, you know, yeah, that's true. You can play a bit of mixed doubles, you know, do you think gets the edge in terms of doubles? Do you still, do you still side with, with team Europe?

55:30Um, or do you think maybe team world have a better doubles quality? I don't, I don't know. I think more people in team world play doubles more regularly. As what I'd say, like Fran played a lot with Etch-A-Verry. I think some of the Americans have played together a little bit more frequently as well. Um, Dim and R's, don't stray into a doubles match either. Who blicks played a little bit as well. So I think probably from a doubles perspective, there's more partnership that might exist or like experience on the, um, I mean, on the, on the side of team world. But I mean, if you put Carlos Alcras or, you know, this is very, I want to tennis court. Your chances are, is that the partnership you want to see? What are the partnerships you want to see? Oh, I saw Alcras Rude. I think quite like that one. I think I'm a fan of that one. I'd love a Spanish double act, you know, Hoda and Alcras, that would be fun. Also, Zveref has won quite a lot of doubles. I forget about the plays with Mello quite a lot, doesn't he? So, um, I am talking nonsense. I think, I mean, if whoever Alcras playing,

56:32what was Watch Out is what I'd say? Yeah, interesting. Okay, predictions time. Team Europe team, well, who is going to come out on top? And can you give me a score line as well? Hmm. What about, there's only points up for grabs. That's the stress. So the first team to reach 13 points is the winner of the Labour cars. It's going to be very close. I'm thinking it's like. It was 1311 in 2024. I think it's going to be. That, yeah, 1310. With that possible. Yeah. Okay. Two. Great question, Joel. I'm done with dodged this. Let's say team Europe, come on. I've got to support Europe having I really. I am going to go. Team Fritz, you're going to say it's Team World. Team Fritz. I'm going to go Team World. I'm going to go Rogue. I'm going to say Team World. Okay. 1311. You heard it here.

57:32I think it's going to be very tight. I think you're right. I think it's going to be very tight. It always is quite tight, apart from it. It's a couple of years ago. Two, one sided. But it's not the only tennis that's happening though. Joel, is that? I know you'll be there. And it's very, very exciting. It's where the big names are. But we've got Medvedev is over in China. You know, not expecting to see him there. We're now at the point of the season, this is where tournaments start on a Wednesday. And Hangjow starts on a Wednesday. Of course. Chengdu starts on a Wednesday as well. Rublev is there. Oh, sorry. Rublev is in Hangjow. We've got Vashero and Fikina in Chengdu. But yeah, I mean, quick thoughts, Chris. I mean, Fikina's going to get a second title. That's what I'm seeing here. I just feel sad that Rublev and Medvedev aren't playing Leyva Cup. Do you think they'll be like, oh, I wish I was playing Leyva Cup not. I'm not even sure if they're paying too. Hangjow to the moment. But I think they both need some form. So I think Santos is better to get that on the tennis tour. But there's some bigger names out for the women's side.

58:34Yes. Made the move to Asia. Yeah, the Singapore 500, the Korea Open 250, and Dreever and Anasmova, the top two seeds. Yala in the draw. And Joel, she is in this draw, but she's not in the draw next week. And that's causing quite a stir, isn't it? Yes. We do need to talk about this before we wrap it up. But because Alexandra Yala is not playing Beijing mandatory 1,000 event next week, she's chosen to play for her country at the 2026 Asian Games. And the WTA are not happy about this. The conversation is that Yala asked for an exemption. And the DIA and the WTA tour said no, apparently, was rejected. And as a result of that, Yala is facing a $10,000 fine from the WTA. And she would lose her ranking points as well. I mean, Chris, where do you stand on the fact that Yala has chosen to play for her country

59:36overplaying a mandatory event, a 1,000 event on the tour? And the fact that the WTA could potentially hand her a $10,000 fine. I mean, it's not a good look for the WTA. I do not like that. I also think, weren't you such a great ambassador for the game? And it is an event like this. It should be on a case by case basis. You shouldn't be giving people a fine for playing for their country. And even though these pairs can afford it, it's not a good look to give a fine of that sort of size. It's not saying that they would do it yet, but it could mean that they would. And that fine is bigger than what Sabalynca got for her US Open Outburst. So it's a big fine as far as these things go. And it could also mean that you'd be docked some ranking points because a mandatory would be missing from your sort of the mandatory tournaments that you have to play. So I don't like it. And I think it's not a good precedent. And the schedule has got to be improved because if this is important to pay for your country, it shouldn't be something that should take second fiddle. So I'm with I'm team Iana on this one.

1:00:37Yeah, I think there should be more flexibility for players to represent their country. And if you look at the state the WTA is in in terms of finances, you need her on side. Report. Yeah, report your money from Iana by finding her. Make some money yourself, please. Reports that, you know, they're in financial turmoil potentially heading into next season. You need everyone who is going to be making bank for you on your side. And I think this is a situation that could permanently damage that relationship. And the fact that, you know, Yala's still very young. She's very, so very kind of so much time that relationship has to blossom on the tour. I think it would be a very silly move, I think, to kind of give repercussions to Yala. So yeah, we shall see. Listen, let us know what do you think, what do you think should happen? Should anything happen? Let us know. But we're going to wrap up our latest tour catch up here at tennis weekly HQ.

1:01:39Myself and Kim will be at the Lava Cup. We think we're doing daily episodes. There might be some bonus episodes. There might be a ramp up. I'm sending you two microphones. OK. I expect you to use them, Joel. We are, we're going to be covering the Lava Cup. There's going to be interviews as well. We're going to be in the press room asking questions. Eating the hospitality, looking at the quality. We're going to be providing full coverage. So yeah, do look out for that. Who coverage? I'm catering to Carlos. Hopefully at the same time. No. But yeah, as I said, we're going to wrap up our latest tour catch up here at tennis weekly HQ. We hope you've enjoyed the ride with us. Remember to subscribe so you don't miss a moment of action from the ATP and WTA tours as we head towards the Asian swing. Well, as I say, as we head, we're already in it. We're already in it. As we head towards, well, Beijing 1000 next week on the WTA side, we've got Beijing and Tokyo as well on the Men's side zone. Lots and lots of tennis on the tour to look forward to. You can find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube and all your favorite podcasting platforms

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