Skip to content
TrackPodcasts
newsOct 10, 20262:12:03

Lesbian Bar's "Immunocompromised Disabled Divas" Throw Hands Over Mask Policy

Get every episode summarized

Each time Honey Badger Radio publishes, we email you a written briefing from the transcript — the topics, who appeared, and any specific claims, with the ad reads skipped.

Email me new episodes

Free for 3 shows. No card needed.

About this episode

“I'm here with Allison and this is the fundraiser stream. It was due to a number of complications on Allison's end, but here we are.”From the transcript
"If it refers to itself as it, does it dress in drag as a human? Is that drag for it? I just want to know the logistics."

Brian and Alison read a Boston Globe piece from September this year, headlined "I hope your venue gets firebombed." The Last Ditch, a lesbian bar in Greenfield, had required a well-fitted KN95 or better at all times. It offered one optional night a week, and the queer community split.

Also: ten people in a circle on the dance floor, all masked, with two designated mediators, fifteen more on Zoom, two minutes each, going clockwise, opening with a calming breath exercise; one founder with a trashed credit score who lived in her truck for six months and carries the $50,000 loan alone; and what her own customers posted while she cried.

"People like you kill disabled people in the name of your own leisure and convenience."

"I don't even think the communists would tolerate this shit. This would be gulag behaviour. To the gulag you go. You don't want to farm your turnips, Noir? To the gulag."
"This newfangled communism is making me want some old school communism."

Support the show: feedthebadger.com/support
Send us a message: feedthebadger.com/justthetip
Join the community: badgernation.online

Hosts & guests

Transcript ready

1,741 searchable segments. Every word is indexed and playable.

Lesbian Bar's "Immunocompromised Disabled Divas" Throw Hands Over Mask Policy

Honey Badger Radio

0:00
2:12:03

Full transcript

Honey Badger Radio — Lesbian Bar's "Immunocompromised Disabled Divas" Throw Hands Over Mask Policy. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.

Okay, we are live. Hello everybody and welcome back to Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian. I'm here with Allison and this is the fundraiser stream. Sorry for the late start. It was due to a number of complications on Allison's end, but here we are. And I know this is weird that we're doing this on a Saturday, but it's just the only time we can do it because I'm gonna go camping with Lindsay tomorrow, so we're not gonna be able to do it. Oh, so you're not leaving tonight. We're not leaving tonight. We're just doing all the prep tonight. We got to like go shopping with advice stuff. Huh? I was wondering about that because it's like, so I thought you were leaving on like Friday, and then you're going till Tuesday and I'm like, wow, that's a lot of camping. No, no, no, we're we're not leaving until we're leaving tomorrow, like right after church, but we're not it's gonna take us four hours to get to the place.

So we're staying there for two nights, going to be Sunday night and Monday night, and then we're gonna return on Tuesday. Yeah, so yeah, I'm just adjusting the avatar. Okay. Yeah, that's that's so are you looking forward to camping? Uh, yeah, I mean, it's I just hope the weather is good. That's my one concern is that but like Lindsay's, you know, I promised her we would go camping at some point ever since we got here because she used to do this all the time in in Calgary, you know, Alberta, she would go to the mountains and backpack and stuff like that. So she really wanted to do it and we just couldn't really get away, but now we're doing it. So yeah, this is for her. But I'm looking forward to it too. It's different. I don't get to do this ever. So

Yeah, really can't you can't be able to be a lot of fun. It's a little bit humid though. That's I find it's a different feeling because you're out in the wilderness and there's humidity in the air, whereas inside usually because of climate controlled stuff there it doesn't isn't quite as it's always drier. So yeah Yeah, so anyway, but but yeah, I hope you enjoy your camping trip and then have some roast marshmallows or whatever you're allowed to do that. Because of your diet, I meant not because of any any kind of thing. Um Okay, so sorry about the late start. Yeah, it was my fault. We had a blackout here in a Saskatchewan. How do Americans sit Saskatchewan? Saskatchewan? You guys are yeah, you know, you say it right. I think it's my influence probably. Yeah, most Americans, they just

just got you on this catch you on. Um they put an extra vowel in there somewhere, but anyway, yeah, we had a blackout last night. No idea why, according to the Sask Energy, there was just some kind of damage done. Maybe it was by a moose because there was no storm at all. Maybe a moose got tangled in the wires again. Yeah. But anyway, that that blackout was supposed to resolve like half an hour from now, but it ended up resolving an hour and a half. And then we had to try to get the computer to reboot and apparently the computer decided to install new graphic card drivers that had a conflict with the graphic card because you know, that's what you do if you're a computer. Everything's working fine and you got to break it. And then we had to roll back the graphic card are the drivers in order to play the game.

So, but what part we persevered and now we are here going to do your song requests. Everything seems to be fine. Everything seems to work. All right, so we already have three. And so we can either maybe go for five. Or we could, well, you know what, let's see what happens. But anyway, get those song requests in. Guys, if you don't know what we're doing now, I see that we've had an influx. And the least new people looking at our streams, if not so far. Oh, really? Well, yeah, just recently, like, uh, the last couple weeks, um, the horizontal streams have been seeing a lot more traffic. So, now I've jinxed it. Maybe I'll knock on wood. Uh, but yeah, there is, uh, there has been a, uh, so there may be more viewers, maybe not on this stream because this stream is a bit, bit niche.

It's mostly for our actual, you know, our main audience. But anyway, if you're new here, what we do is this is the gamified aspect of the fundraiser of the monthly fundraiser. You don't have to take it part if you want to support the show if you just like what we're talking about because, um, honestly, at this point in time, I think we're the only people who talk about the fact that our species is dying and why. It, I mean, there are other people who talk about it, but I'm not sure they've done the level of research that I have, have done on it. Uh, so if you want to support that research and that message that, you know, we should take care of that. I should, can we have like a, I don't even know if this would be beneficial, but the effort would be appreciated. Could we have like a UN, um, council, not a council, but like one of the committees on this, you know, human race, fertility is declining to nothing. Maybe we could get the, maybe, and I know the UN would screw it up, but it would be nice if they had, you know, the wherewithal, you know what I mean?

If there was the will to actually start talking about this and not in a, oh, let's blame men more, what kind of way. Yeah. Well, if you want to actually continue that conversation, then you can just go to feed the badger.com slash support and put a few shackles in the hat for us. Every bit helps guys, $5, $10, really appreciate the small, small supporters. Really like you guys. So go and go and help out. And so once again, feed the badger.com slash support. And if you want to take part in the gamified part of the fundraiser, then go to feed the badger.com slash just a tip and send in a song request. But before you find the song that you want me to play through Beat Saber, make sure the beat Saber modding community has modded it because they are a unique group. Very unique and their tastes are equally unique and you may think that your song is absolute.

Would 100% have been what some song that someone would have modded not so. So go to be Saber.com. Make sure your song request is available. Then put it in at feed the badger.com slash just a tip. And then if I get through it on the highest level of difficulty on your honor, you will go to feed the badger.com slash support and put $25 in the hat for myself. Brian, Hannah and HBR for the month. I get, if I can get through it without failing on the higher to stay the difficulty or if I end up in the top 100, that means you have supplied us with a damnably different type of music. And the only people who could actually get through it are South Korean teenagers, teenage boys. So I get that hail Mary. If I get in the top 100, it counts as having gone through it. And then on your honor again, go to feed the badger.com slash support and put in $25.

If it's a really long song, put in 50. You get me there flailing for like 10 minutes or anything over five than 50. So those are the rules. I only do the long song one because sometimes people request a song that's 16 freaking minutes. And by the end, I want to die. But anyway, so those are the rules. Let's see. So we got three. Is there anything you want to talk about? No, we got no, we got no, we did not get three more. No, no, I know we need two more. Right. How many do you want to do more? Yeah, five. I mean, if they, if people get them in quickly, then maybe we could try for seven. Okay. Yeah. But is that okay. So before we start. Is there anything, yeah, have you been watching anything interesting? Anything? Any news in media entertainment? Uh, news in media. Well, I don't know if it's anything that's like fun to talk about. But like the only, the only other, the only anime I watch is back.

And I watched it was the Joe Joe's bizarre venture steel ball run. I want to say the second episode came out and I watched it this morning. And I enjoyed it. I think it's, I think it's awesome. Also, I said, oh, yeah, there's this movie on, on Amazon. It's old. It's from like 1980. I want to say it's like 1982 or 1983. And it's called the sisterhood. And Lindsey and I were watching it out of curiosity. It's freaking hilariously bad. It's like a B movie post apocalyptic fantasy world. There's a lot of this. And I appreciate that they were doing a lot of this stuff in like the 70s and 80s. Like a lot of like, you know, weird fantasy movies like that. Just like really weird. And this one is like a feminist power fantasy. We didn't finish it, but pretty sure it's going to be awful. And it's about the, it's like after like a world shattering war. And, you know, people are living in villages. And there are like raiders. And they're, so it's got like some mad max stuff in it. But it's also got some red Sonya. Like, you know, what, what's the, is it the she or lady hawk type elements? It's like that, right?

And these, there are these women called the sisterhood. That's all that's that's about as creative as it gets. And they have like magic powers. It's just, it's just, I don't know, it's funny. It's trite. But I do think it's a, it's a feminist power fantasy movie. And it makes me think that a lot of this stuff, you know, that we're dealing with is it's all like weird like wish fulfillment stuff that, that it's just not based in reality. But it's, it's, I don't know, like it, some people take some kind of like satisfaction out of it. So it's, uh, um, Grit and Doris says I have a 20 minute song I could request, but that would be for next time perhaps it's a combo of rush, by the way. So no extreme stuff. Are you talking about 2112? That's a rush song. That's 21 minutes and 12 seconds song. A long, I mean, um,

Diva Holma was also a feminist power fantasy. Uh, yeah, I don't know. The sisterhood, uh, let me see if I can find it because it's, it's funny. I hate to do, but 20 minutes is going to be more than 50 bucks friend. Oh, yeah. Sure. Yeah, I mean, I should make that exponential, like, I don't know, whatever, whatever you'd want to put through for that. But that, that sounds like it's going to be a marathon. That that would be very challenging. I mean, I, I'll do it today. It's just, I will only be able to do five songs. There you go. Um, yeah, I mean, I would do it at the end. Well, that's four songs right there. Yeah, I would actually, I would actually say that at that point, if you're getting me to do 20 minutes, maybe I should start like charging more for after 10 minutes. Like, I don't know. I mean, it'll be up to you what you want to put on. Just saying that is that that is an ask, even at its lower speed to wave your arms non stop for 20 minutes.

Okay. Yeah. I could try it today. I would just have to be at the end. Um, yeah, get those song requesting guys. Feed the badger.com slash just a tip. That, you know, the 80s was a great decade for bizarre, niche fantasy films. For sure. Most of which were bad. But like, still, even the bad ones can be fun to watch. That's why I'm watching it. Um, to just laugh at it. Yeah. Because I watched like a couple of others like, um, Death Stalker and Death Stalker 2 and, um, the Brigitte Nielsen Red Sonia movie. They made a, they made a red sonia recently, but it was awful for when everything I heard. And it like they can't get out of that frame of like seeing everything from the past as like bad. So they have to like shame the, you know, because red sonia is where a lot of people get the chainmail bikini from, even though I don't think it was unique to that at all. I just think that's what people associate it with.

So they were like, well, we got up, we got to take a, we got to take a, a stab at the chainmail bikini thing and they put a whole scene in the, in the remake or whatever. The more recent adaptation where she's offered a chainmail bikini and she scoffs at it or something. And I'm like, nobody's going to watch this. You guys are not having fun. You know, this, but anyway. Um, Great Endor says, uh, I think it would only be fair to request it for a next stream so that you could prepare. Anyway, the, the sisterhood is a 1988. You cannot prepare for a 20 minute song. You can only do it. Well, and the other thing is next stream will be next month. Yeah. Well, we'll see. Let's, okay. Guys, get those, get those song requests in. We still need to. How are we doing on like people? I mean, I know this is a different day than we usually do it. So maybe everybody's like, what's going on? Not a time. It's, uh, we got, uh, well, on rumble. Well, yeah, it's all right. We got to like 26 people watching.

Okay. They're probably figuring out that this is live, but I think on the weekends, there tends to be fewer people anyways. So, and on the vertical. That's both combined. The vertical, the rumble is 13. The vertical is 11. Although it's got 98 views already. So maybe that's where passing through. I wonder if the special chat is being special. Like, is there anything in there? Like interesting in the special chat. Uh, still Mazza says E girl and her boyfriend bodyguard boyfriend. What? Yeah. No, no. E girl. Well, because of the maybe is because of the badger chance thing or order just baiting you and, you know, you could just take the bait. So, um, but that was like, I don't know how to take this bait. That was earlier. So maybe that's the order already that you think I could possibly be an E girl. Yeah. We're flattering. Yeah. You must be new here. Um, very new. Yeah.

So, um, anyway. So, yeah, the, the sisterhood is, um, in the year 2021, women have been enslaved by men with their only hope for freedom lying in the hands of a nomadic band of maiden warriors. In the far distant future of 2021. And you know, what's funny is, um, I think that the people who write these things, they try to actually predict what the world might be like. And there was all this fear mongering around, you know, nuclear holocaust ever since the Cold War started. And so this movie, and of course, they blame like feminist blame men for the nuclear holocaust that it hasn't quite happened yet, but they're pretty sure it's going to and when it does, it's going to be men's fault. Yeah, but it hasn't happened. And apparently men are just, they've been enslaved by women. And there's a nomadic band of maiden warriors Ali and Vera.

They tap Maria, these are their names because this is like a fantasy world or something and her hawk to help them. So like, they have magic powers like one of them, I think, can like move things with her mind and another one can talk to animals and another one can heal. Um, I don't know if they all, because I haven't finished the movie. I don't know if it's like unique to each one or, or if they can do all those things and more. But yeah, it's hilariously bad. And when I was watching it with Lindsay, I was like, you know, if men wanted to enslave women, they'd just be enslaved, right? Like, they wouldn't, you wouldn't be able to do anything about it, but they don't want to. That's just the truth of it. So, um, yeah. I think it's, uh, well, it's, it's also the fact that you have to enslave your mom, right? That's a, yeah, I know. I, and your sisters and like, yeah, for sure. For sure.

The physical capability that the will is, I don't think they're, which is really, really, why, you know, the feminist framework is ridiculous. But anyway. Yeah. Okay. So we're still at three. Should I just do them? I don't know. I do, I do have to be done here by 230 at the absolute latest. And I'd rather be like two o'clock. But, um, well, I could do another call out guys. Two more, two more songs. Yeah. Two more. Go rack your brains, get two more songs. So I can, I can just blaze through them. I don't have to, I could just set aside the time that I have to spell and deal with that as opposed to all at once. Well, I guess maybe, maybe, uh, yeah, spelling is not my, my strong suit. Yeah. But, um, yeah. Two more songs, guys. And also get those pledges into the feed feed the badger.com slash support to so that we can continue to do this. I got to convince you guys that, you know, this, this still matters.

So that we can do another month. A little nervous about this month. Uh, so any go go to feed the badger.com slash support. If you don't want us to disappear. I don't know what would happen then. Like I, I don't mean to like, toot my own horn. But I think the, like again, I think the research that I'm doing, maybe the only research being done in this way. Like, because the thing is that nobody wants to talk about how bad it's gotten. And I understand that because it's really depressing. But so everybody just deflects onto blaming men or blaming other things. Um, nobody's willing to say, though, this is a problem with women. Like, this is serious. And if we don't fix it, we're done for. Because there's no, like, if our society has it, there's no reason why it can't infect. And hasn't infected every society on the planet. And the problem is you can't say, oh, wow, the Amish will, or the Hasidic Jews will take over the earth or the religious communities because those communities also rely on an advanced civilization that isn't reproducing itself.

Right. Because the Amish are not like, they don't, they aren't self sufficient. And the Hasidic Jews need welfare in many cases to maintain their fertility. So I saw everything is reliant on this advanced system that isn't reproducing itself. And that's a scary thought. But we got to actually deal with it. And we got to stop blaming men and start looking at why women are doing this. Because that's the only place where a solution is going to happen. And it is terrifying to me to think that, you know, the stuff that I'm seeing will just have to disappear and we'll just have to go off that cliff without even knowing without even a chance of changing course. So anyway, if that sounds pretty terrifying to you, please support the initiative to get people to care about the fact that we're dying at feed the badger.com slash just the tip. That's really depressing. Plus, you know, send in songs. I'll flail. It'll be amusing. We can have a laugh.

Anyway, feed the badger.com slash just the tip for those songs. Let's see if that's anybody has managed to get anything through. Nope. All right. That's depressing. Okay. So we talked about the sisterhood. I'm trying to think if there's anything that I've watched. I do have a couple of rumble rants. I'm going to read out and sure. All right. So Zarynx gave us two dollars and said Sunday came quick. He's referring to the fact that we're doing this on Saturday. And then Nova fan gives us a dollar and says, your Jewish friend, when you ask someone to do the Lord's Prayer, do it. What do you do with day old meat? Stew it. Your first day as a pilot, fluid. All right. Thank you for that. Okay. Okay. Okay, jokes. Well, I found the last thing they probably were pretty freaking. Yeah. I enjoyed them.

I mean, I also have some. Some, I guess you could say news for a potential guest. I'm working on getting on here. Yeah. So his name is Paul. Sorry. Philip Parrish. And he was running for. I think he ran as like Lieutenant Governor in Minnesota. He didn't win, but he got like a nice chunk of the votes. And the reason why I'm bringing him up is that he is one of almost, well, almost unheard of in terms of like very few politicians that actually like know about and are trying to address men's issues of things like others rights and he's also like written extensively criticizing the Duluth model and he wants to eliminate it. So I mean, I don't know that that's like a Herkulean no Cicophian Cicophian task that he's undertaking, but he does seem like one person that is trying to do like a good thing.

I'm working on trying to get him on the show to talk about it. So there's that. Yeah. Philip Parrish. That would be good. That would be good to get to encourage that to encourage some movement towards realizing what the problem is. And that we can't keep blaming men. I mean, surely Brian surely brand me that blaming men will work this time. I don't think he's doing that. No, no, I mean, that's what I mean. Yeah, I'm sort of countering that. Yeah, I understand. Somebody who's who's moving away from that as the solution to literally butt fuck everything. Have we tried blaming men? Have we tried blaming men for being blamed? Surely that will solve the issue of blaming men? Have we put some more blaming men on that? We considered blaming men. Have we gone through the process of assembling the blame men committee? And if we sufficiently determine how much blame men have had for this item.

And the hilarious thing is that people will come up and say, we blame women. We blame women too much. It's like you live in an alternate reality sometimes. Okay, where is this font of blaming women? I wish to wash myself and it's purifying waters. Like, go find it. Where's the map? Fine. Locate on the doll where someone blamed women. I'm not seeing it. And I think we need to do a hell of a lot more of it. Yeah. Alright. Okay, so I think we're still at three songs. Guys, get those font requests in two more. Do it so I stop having to say this. I'm doing a return. Let's see. Nope. Still at three. Alright, I'm just going to repeat the words. Get those song requests in for the next 15 minutes until you guys do.

Alright. It's going to be very entertaining. Get the song requests in. Oh, you do. Yeah, it's a funny story. So, I don't know, this might help. Alright. So, the article was on the Boston Globe. I think it is double check it because I can't remember. Yeah, I think it's the Boston Globe. And it is a very funny story if you are a sane person. So, okay, let me just read through the article. I hope your venue gets firebombed. After a COVID-Cautious Lesbian bar relaxed its mask mandates, all hell broke loose. Last, the last ditch bar in Greenfield wanted to build community. They got a firestorm instead. Now, I know what you're thinking. Is this an old article since it references COVID-19?

No. This is from September 22nd of 2026. This is from just a few days ago. So, alright, just like, check this out. The August 31st Instagram post from last ditch bar in Arts venue, a Lesbian bar in Greenfield. Get it? It's a Lesbian bar called the last ditch. Oh god. Was upbeat teasing a new DJ lineup and the volunteer meetup, but part way down the rainbow-hued post labeled updates was a sentence that would splinter the queer community in this small pioneer valley city and beyond. It is with love we inform our immuno-compromised disabled divas. We will be opening Saturday nights as Mask optional wrote last ditch. Previously patrons were required to wear a well-fitted KN95 mask or better at all times. The new policy was not received with love.

So, let me, there's a little bit of, I think they're gonna go into the backstory for this because I think they're setting things up. No? No? Yes, that's what I was just saying. Yes. Yes. Were you not listening to the backstory? No. In Boston, there was a Lesbian bar that was opened called the last ditch and it's a, it is specifically a, a bar that is a COVID conscious. Okay? So, if everyone who goes to the bar is supposed to wear a mask, don't ask me how they drink their drinks at the bar. I have no idea. But, they recently made a post where they basically said that it is with love we inform our immuno-compromised disabled divas that we will be opening Saturday nights as Mask optional according to last ditch.

So, they're gonna basically make Saturday nights Mask optional. Previously, patrons were required to wear a well-fitted KN95 mask or better at all times. The new policy was not received with love. Just say you're being complicit in mass disabling events and get it over with, wrote one commenter. People like you kill disabled people in the name of your own leisure and convenience post it another. What? This is Babylon B? No, this is real. This is real. This really happened. This is not a joke. This is not a parody at all. They opened up... We're doing a serious people. No, this is like the most... That's the most apparently. Disabled lesbians, yes. Amino compromised. Like, if you're immunocompromised, what are you doing in a frickin' bar? I mean, who know? I don't even know what immunocompromised means. Like in this... It means that you're prone to picking up infections.

No, I know what it means technically, but I'm not sure that that's what it means in this context. Because it's not... I don't think that... How do I put this? It's not like you have a disease that has like, you know, compromised your immune system, like HIV. It's more like, oh, I get sick easy. Therefore, I'm immunocompromised. Or I think I am. Because I'm like really overweight. I live on healthy lifestyle or something, right? Because those things could contribute to, oh, I smoke a lot. I don't know, whatever it is. But anyway. So people like you... Yeah, go ahead. How are they supposed... How are you supposed to create a society if it's a race to who can be the weakest and most accommodated? Like if everybody's accommodating, is racing to be accommodated. Who does the accommodating? What am I talking about? Every time somebody doesn't get accommodated, you blame men.

Yeah. What am I talking about? Well, this is the thing about this article is I don't think there are any men involved in the story at all. Yeah, actually, that is a question. It's like a question of how many angels dance in the head of a pin? Yeah. What do you blame? An lesbian, Separatist, Commune Bar? Who do you blame? I don't know. It would be great just to go there with some field glasses and a notepad and some khakis and just do some field observation of the primates as they discuss who to blame when there are no men in the vicinity. All right. All right. So let me get back to the article. So these are just posts that were written about their announcement, like below the announcement. People like you kill disabled people in the name of your own leisure and convenience post another. I hope your venue gets firebombed for robbing my fellow immunocompromised people of their Saturday plans, just to scrape extra revenue from Abelists wrote a third.

So not being disabled and wanting to go to a bar makes you an able, makes you an ableist. And of course, we're talking about lesbians here, like all like the the able bodied COVID free lesbians are worse than the immunocompromised disabled lesbians obviously. Can you imagine a society constructed of people like this? It's the sisterhood. They have magic powers. No, I mean, I can. I just wouldn't want to live that like. You know what would happen? You know what in reality in reality, you need to talk about like that the sisterhood in 2021 women will and or men will enslave women. You know what actually would happen? Women would run off into the wilderness. I have a complete fucking disaster in which probably there'll be some form of child slaughter and cannibalism. And then the defectors from the authoritarian cannibalist, Cistopia will or sister toopia will will go and throw themselves and say,

men, would you please enslave us? Because that would get a better deal as the slaves of men. That's more likely what would actually happen. Yeah. Because think about look at this like look at the backbiting here. This is the compassionate community and all it can do is spew bile. Yep. Based on a but you know it's because they're spewing bile upwards. That's what makes it justified. It's no longer hatred. It's civic duty. Yep. This is just a race to the bottom. It is it is behavior that destroys its own basis, its own foundation. Okay. Continue. All right. The thread that I was reading from grew to 442 comments. Some supportive but many furious. The people running the bar were accused of being ableist, eugenicist even for relaxing their signature policy in the face of what commenters consider an ongoing pandemic.

Do you know why they did that? Do you know why they relaxed their rules for Saturday nights? Because they weren't making any money because nobody was going to the bar because of the COVID restrictions. So like they're the overhead for running any place like that is extremely tight. So if people are not showing up because they're like I'm not wearing a mask for that. Like you all right think about it like this and I haven't finished the article. I'm going to go back to it. You open up a bar. If you open up a bar that is for anybody then you basically have the most amount of people except for people under the age of whatever the drinking age is where you are. Right. So you exclude a chunk of people but not that many. You have like a relatively large and broad umbrella. And you also have to consider that you're competing with other bars in the area. This is just if we're opening a bar. Now let's say you open a bar but you're like this is a gay bar. So you've already cut and not not that straight people couldn't go but you're not going to be that many straight people that go to the bar.

So you have a gay bar then your customer base is smaller. If you make it a lesbian bar the customer base gets even smaller. If you make it a lesbian bar for COVID conscious people then you're going to have a really small customer base. So you're not making that much money. So what you got to do is you got to figure out ways to get people to come to the bar without because you know it was the passion project of one of these. I think there were three women that opened up this business. And I think it was at least one of their idea to do that. So they did that but then they realized they weren't making any money on it. So they were like well we got to do some things so we can make some money. I mean you just have to otherwise you can't have a business. So they said let's relax the rules for one day of the week and they chose Saturday because it then it makes sense because if you're doing a Saturday you're more likely to have a lot of business even if you're just relaxing for the one day so you can potentially make up for whatever money you lose. But of course now they pissed off the base whatever that is.

So anyway I'm just explaining why you compromise lesbian separatist. There are two you know immunocompromised oh no wait I guess it's maybe like 20 immunocompromised lesbian separatist. However many in there are yeah. Yeah disabled less immunocompromised disabled lebeds being separatist of color. And they've discovered that they can't actually run a business only catering to one small group of people. Yeah it's it's it's it was it was a disastrous idea to do this. You notice how this business is defined by what it excludes and yet they probably say oh we're very compassionate. How do you define yourself in exclusionary terms and then say oh we're very diverse and compassionate. Right how do you do that how does that work? You say one thing but do something else. I don't know. That's lying I guess that's a I guess that's a neuro typical thing that makes sense to neuro typical.

Yeah because it just sound like lying to me. Well that's that's kind of what it is I mean like it's it's it's lying about well it's I guess it's easy to say you believe something that actually like live that. So you could call it hypocrisy I don't know but and maybe excluding people is compassion to the people that you're not excluding. That's a there's a way to interpret that. So anyway the thread grew to 442 comments some supportive but many furious. The people running the bar were accused of being ableist eugenicist even for relaxing their signature policy in the face of what comment just consider an ongoing pandemic. Today's later last ditch posted an apology big mistake quote we are sorry for our passive and dismissive tone of our change to the norms and schedule impacting the most intersectional of us and quote management wrote on Instagram. Then they continued quote we understand.

They've rediscovered a caste system. Yes. We understand everyone faces different intersections and we are always working to consider all needs fully. Except that. Instead of diffusing the situation the apology seemed to make things worse of course it did. I'm just curious to the sharks started eating each other. Is there any competitions over who's the most intersectional? Instead of diffusing the situation the apology seemed to make things worse the bar had aired a post in an Instagram card without providing alt text for the visually impaired this set off a fresh round of accusations of ableism. This is not an accessible post wrote one user it indicates the lack of care or interest in disability intersectionality.

Quaint crunchy greenfield which is that's where it is it's greenfield Massachusetts population 17,000 so we're looking at a very small town on top of that. Isn't a bad place for a covid cautious lesbian bar in 2026 all things considered rainbow flags deck store windows downtown. In on a recent weekend a community theater was advertising a workshop for mass performers down the street from a bookstore with a medical masks required sign in the window. Men in ponytails and N95s were ordering hibiscus tea from the coffee shop off the main square. Greenville is close both physically and spiritually to north hampton sometimes referred to as lesbianville USA. In the pioneer valley every bar is a lesbian bar a friend who lives there told me so I guess it's like a pretty gay area lots of lesbian bars which makes it even worse that you're trying to set up something that has again a small audience so you can stay open.

Now you have to compete with a bunch of other lesbian bars that may not have mask mandates. Nevertheless last ditch with which open last year as a bar for dikes this is their thing that they wrote. It's for dikes, transsexuals, gender freaks, workers and their friends workers. It's struggling I like how they throw that in there workers. Three housemates in their mid 20s opened it together hoping to fill the void left by two local queer bars that had shuttered. One of the trio, Asa Rosario a drag call. Can you send me a link to this so I can speculate on it? But also if they're already closed in queer bar what okay so you have your part of a community and the more general bars I assume. That closed yes are closing down so you look at that and you say how can I restrict my customer base even further is that really a winning strategy here?

Yeah, like you look at that's like oh okay well general queer bars are closing I assume that they were either lesbian or gay because they don't tend to come together. The lesbian and gay communities do not get along. I don't know if people know that. And it's not the gay men's fault by the way. But anyway the so you have these bars who. Be honest they serve a more diverse queer community and they're shutting down and what you take from that is let's restrict it further. How does this even were operating how long has this business been in operation? Is there any information on that? I don't know I got to read more of the more of the comment or more of the article so.

Alright let's let's keep going. They opened it together the three were intentional about the kind of values they want to bring to the divy basement bar which they decorated with discoveries from Facebook marketplace and. Pieces from local artists no one would be turned away from the space for lack of funds poor and unhoused people are welcome in the space the police were not so this is like again there are oh my god so much virtue signaling so they basically made. I'm reading this I'm sorry I'm going back yeah workers why do they just have workers in there wouldn't workers be able to because they can work. Like I mean they mean they mean proletariat they just can't spell it there they're they're the proletariat like well no they said they said workers they are referring to the proletariat. That why else would they say that who doesn't have a job who is in.

I know I know I know but what I'm saying is that functionally these people do not like the individuals who are actually workers right almost all of them have. Yeah right well that yeah that's what's the. Of the trio as a raw Zario a drag performer who uses it it's pronouns envisioned a venue where it and it's okay how are. What what's drag for somebody who doesn't identify as a gender how does that work no idea. I don't know like drag is usually dressing as the opposite sex what is not drag is not what it used to be drag used to be. It was just like a kind of performance that was fun and funny and a little cheeky. And it had nothing to do with identity or politics but now it is now it's all that it's basically it's just trans under another label and I know that doesn't make sense to people but that's what it's become it's an identity now.

So yeah and the pronouns yeah I wonder what the the original you know drag queens think of that. Mm hmm probably pretty obnoxious. Oh yeah like I but I don't I'm just trying to figure out like what if you are not a sex are you being drag of yourself. No idea I'd have to see what it looks like maybe it's some kind of. It looks like it. Oh I'm sorry yeah it. Yes. What it looks like so if it does it drag does it dress and drag is as a being that's considered sentient. Like if it if it refers to self as it does it dress and drag is a human. That drag for it I'm curious like I want to know I want to know the logistics because I'm you know I am me so I just want to figure that out that just seems a little bit baffling.

All right keep going. I think they like the idea that they baffle people. Okay so the three were intentional about the kind of values they wanted to bring to the divvy basement bar which they decorated with discoveries from Facebook marketplace and pieces from local artists. No one would be turned away from the space for lack of funds. The poor and Hana unhoused people are welcome in the space. The police were not because a cab. Our mission is to create systems of care and action and aid says Jackie Metallion one of the founders. When it first opened the last ditch did fairly well customers finally remember a rock is opening night with a close simulation of a lesbian sex act great masks in place on the dance floor. But over time foot traffic to the bar slowed more and more visitors said they didn't have the cover fee. Ooh the bar let them in anyways. Yeah also people would come to the doors that can't afford the cover and they let them in because again they were trying to be as open as possible and never exclude anyone.

Apparently or at least anyone who wanted to go there. So more and more visitors said they didn't have the cover fee the bar let them in anyways the owner fell behind on bills and couldn't pay themselves or the people who worked there. So after consulting with the Massachusetts LGBT Chi LGBT Chamber of Commerce they came up with a plan to bend one of their rules and hopefully attract more customers. But by the time of last ditches oh sorry go ahead. Wait wait wait this is a rule from the LGBTQ Chamber of Commerce. The Massachusetts chapter of that yes. Yes. Our society has leprosy. By the by the time of last ditches monthly community meeting on September 11th only one of the original founders. The two other step back from the daily operation months before. Mattelian says citing various pressures and health issues one had enrolled in clown school so.

One three lesbians have this idea they get it started then two of them leave one of them goes to clown college and they just leave this one girl who from what I remember it wasn't even her idea like this wasn't even her passion project she just wanted to help and she was stuck holding the bag whatever's left of it. What? Yeah I said she's stuck holding the bag. Yeah. There are some ten people seated in a circle on the dance floor all wearing masks. Mattelian a band full a handful of volunteers some bar patrons and two designated mediators who will facilitate conversations between parties who disagree. Another 10 to 15 people join the meeting via zoom the plan is to go clockwise sharing views on the masking decision and the financial future of the bar each person has two minutes to speak it begins with a calming breath exercise.

I think this is just like a really interesting microcosm of our world right now almost immediately the proceedings are derailed of course. One of last ditches most vocal critics the head of another queer covid conscious collective in western massachusetts a performer and artist who goes by soy noir has been posting complaints about last ditch for days now noir joins the meeting on zoom. He and other critics begin to flood the zoom chat with irate messages which are doodly read aloud to the group. It comes time for one of the mediators a licensed therapist to speak she takes a conciliatory a conciliatory tone tone. Okay. I love that you're here online she says but these platforms alienate us from each other I'm talking about social media she asks whether participants can try to remove themselves from places of righteousness.

I would love to get up to a place where we all know each other's face where we all know each other's name she continues it's messed up that the mediator is dismissing those attending virtually that's not accessibility someone responds in the chat. A lot of people are calling for an acknowledgement of harm and I'm hearing a white therapist centering the feelings of a majority white and white adjacent staff writes noir who is black would a capital B. Moreover the zoom attendees speculate that the mediators license status makes her a mandated reporter an agent of the state akin to the police one person going by moss asks if the mediator could have them hospitalized against their will adding that her presence is quote wildly unsafe and quote. It's an absolute disaster all of the intersections Sean mildly says what? No go ahead and respond to the thing I'm just Sean mild gives a dollar super chat rumble rant and says FYI Portland does have a famous clown college I believe that all right go on.

Well I was going to say that these people think that they can run a society without men. They are so delusional they don't even realize that they can't. Yeah I know this sounds crazy but this is true it's a true story we go ahead Allison sorry they literally need the cognitive modality that actually says but but what about the thing yes I know how do we get it done right it I there's not enough autistic women to support support a femtopia I'm sorry. Yeah there's just not and so you're going to have to your stock with men because men will eventually say well how do you fix the roof how do you get customers to the door how do you charge customers how do you make sure you can pay your bills. How do you do that while restricting your customer base in a market what that's already failing how do you do that how how do you make this work how do you live up to an external standard how are we we need a plan.

This is what men say right these women are living on the fumes of but this is the right thing we're on the right side of history. Capitalism is wrong because capitalism forces us to actually get people to care about our initiative and get behind it well yeah maybe it shouldn't exist if you can't get big enough customer base. And you're watching like what happens when you appeal to people who fetishize their own inability. All right what do they do they use their inability as a club to be or pretend inability because how many of these people are genuinely immunocompromised I'm pretty sure genuinely immunocompromised people are not in this argument. Yep. All right so yeah the people who are going to use their acquired disabilities as a bludgeon to exclude you we're not having accommodated them. This is this is a game that the only end to this game is two people in a smoking crater each trying to shove them each other out of it.

Okay and that's the that's the customer base that they that they cultivated. All right let's let's look for sure. Wow it's long. Yeah the story gets crazier when Mattelian's turn comes to speak it does when Mattelian this is the woman that's the the only original founder that still works there didn't go to clown college. Um when Mattelian's turn comes to speak she begins haltingly she had never envisioned running last ditch alone. Quote it was not my passion project she says my main goal was to support sage and Asa the other two founders her voice cracks I never really wanted to do this Mattelian says beginning to cry under her mask I don't think I'm doing a very good job. Mattelian tells the group her credit score is trashed for six months she lived in her truck because she was pouring money into the bar she is working four different jobs she is responsible for paying off the $50,000 loan the three took out to launch the business.

The online critics. Oh wow. Yes yeah her life is cooked. Wow. Yeah. Uh but no I can't even believe they're managing to run it on five thousand fifty thousand. Well I don't I think that it's falling apart probably. Yeah. Yeah. So the online critics though are unmoved these are her customers. You chose to use your time to spill tears and sent to your feelings noire posts in the chat this is incredibly racist and deflecting behavior. Oh my god. Eventually after three and a half hours of discussion the meeting wraps up noire has more to say but when someone suggests he come to the next community meeting he refuses. So noire is described as a he but I think it's a trans man so you know. There's a lot of emotional and physical labor that goes into this so for you as a white person that asks for me to stay for another meeting for free he says is quote incredibly disingenuous and racist I'm not doing that and quote.

Then I think yes this is entirely relational web thinking. Mm hmm. And the the one victim in all of this. Italian who's who stuck with a fifty thousand dollar won't so she put her skin in the game and she's being shit on by the people who are benefit or did benefit from her taking the risks. Yeah. That's unmarking believable and of course in a operative modality this would be on her to. She's the one who took she is the one with the skin in the game she is the one that makes the rules. She got to pay this back for this dumb bugger noire with his pretentious name. And yet what's happening is how do you how do you do anything for a community like this if it descends into back biting relational web posturing and a complete lack of credit for the person who's doing the work and taking the risks.

Like do you see that like how does anybody do the work take the risks in this community. Because instantly they're going to be labeled as ableist to some degree. Right or part of the capitalist system general is the phobic all the general is the phobic part of the capitalist is heteropatriarchy. A male hedge monarch brain thinker you know like she's got she's a woman but she's got the male hedgemen he shoved in her head somehow. How do you do anything with these people. And again this is an object this is what this is is estrogen poisoning. I'm going to come right out and say it. I don't know if there really is testosterone poisoning. I think there is estrogen poisoning though because it leads to this what is testosterone poisoning lead to. I really think about it.

I mean they say family annihilation more productivity more status seeking more what what is the thing that we need to get done. Yeah maybe maybe more sexual drive is the possibly the only negative and no it doesn't leave to more aggression unless it's converted into estrogen in the brain. Now I think I think I'm going to make the argument that there is estrogen poisoning but no testosterone poisoning and this is it. This is estrogen poisoning. This is trying to extract from other people using your in capability your weakness your frailty your victimhood. And how does anybody create a community and with that kind of a headwind that they're constantly fighting against people who are trying to extract from them using their in ability. Like I don't even think the communists would tolerate this shit this would be gulag behavior to the gulag you go.

You don't want to farm your turnips nor to the gulag. Alright this is the new fangle communism is making me want some old school communism. Alright not not that I'm communist. No no I know you're not I don't know I know. Okay. Alright so let me let's get back to the story because it gets better or worse depending on how you look at it. Okay. It gets better. Okay. Yeah. Then I think unfortunately this meeting has failed you replies a facilitator and I'm sorry. The in person participants file up the mental the metal stairs past the native plant garden and out to their cars. Little has been resolved. Last ditches landlord wants $3,900 in back rent by Monday. Noir spends the hours after the meeting posting furious Instagram stories about Mattelian and last ditch.

Mattelian who uses she they pronouns has been shedding white they them tears he writes the bar was not quote a safe environment nor interested in revolutionary praxis. And what? I reach noir who identifies as gender expansive lesbian and uses he him pronouns see I knew it. Gender expansive lesbian what's that what gender expansive I gotta look this up. Oh my god new new woke term just dropped a gender. Do you know what a gender expansive lesbian is? No it's it's everybody's trying to make themselves the most special. Well yeah that's like you're speaking more broadly about all of this stuff. Yeah so yeah. So a gender expansive lesbian I'm digressing but I thought we should we should learn something today. Let's learn a new word is a person assigned yes.

Just get no no you can finish this but I'm thinking that I've just negotiated to do that 20 minute song. Maybe we should continue the conversation while I'm doing it. Sure. Just so we start moving along because I know. Yeah yeah I know I got a yeah I got like about a half hour to an hour left. Sorry guys I'm going to ask Brian to give me the last song that came through so I can get it done. I'll try it first. You're talking about 20 21 12 20 minute. Well he didn't put it through yet he didn't put it through yet. No it's in the it's in the superchall. 21 oh no he's confirmed it I just need to find it so what's the name 21 12? It's 21 12 by rush but I don't know if it's I don't know if it's in it's in beat saber. But go ahead go ahead get on the game and and we'll go from there 21 12. Oh yeah there it is okay let me hold on a second.

Holy shit okay here we go. Expert plus 20 almost 21 minutes of the sucker all right. What's some and then you can start again just just unloaded up. I may not be able to respond to this madness. Oh I'm just going to read a little bit about what gender expansive lesbian means. Also my my left controllers okay and uh ram bam 3000 sent through a request as well so. Thank you for that ram bam we'll add it to the list but Allison's going to do 21 12 now. It'll be worth it it's a long song I like rush but that's a lot of rush. Yes this is a lot of rush yeah. Okay so what is gender expansive what does gender expansive lesbian mean.

A gender expansive lesbian is a person assigned female at birth who is romantically and or sexually attracted to other women and whose gender identity or expression expands beyond or does not conform to traditional societal gender norms. While lesbian traditionally refer so woman attracted to women the term is often claimed by gender expansive non-binary or trans masculine individuals who feel a connection to the lesbian community despite not identifying strictly as women. You know what you know what these people needed they needed a father who's just going to be like really. They did yes they they needed a father that's the father you know the father eyebrow even go upside their head a little bit would be okay yes. You're not so it's the not fooling anyone look yes you're not fooling anyone you're not fooling anyone Suzy I think all this stuff is just that one dad that one dad who when his daughter was like I'm I'm no when his it was either a son or daughter is like I'm really the opposite sex or the dad decided to come out as trans.

And then the kid just like you know what no yeah it was no longer cool right. Yeah Jesus that is one dedicated father that's a father there. Um. We'll use any mind games willing to use any Martin games to save his child from her full shit yeah. Oh god this is not okay we'll see we'll see if I can get through this. All right just concentrate on that I'm going to read some chats and I'm going to continue with my the article. Roboto one two three four five six seven gives a dollar on rumble and says these people need to be at nom well I hope we don't get them. Yeah no because that's going to be the young men who aren't taking place aren't aren't in any way taking part in this bullshit. Yeah. Maybe a Vietnam if we just send people who you know can't reproduce the species anymore. Vietnam for the for the trunes and the non binaries and stuff.

Yeah. Okay so while lesbian traditionally refers to women attracted to women the term is often claimed by gender expansive non-binary or trans masculine individuals who feel a connection to the lesbian community despite not identifying strictly as women. Gender expansiveness is an umbrella term for individuals who are a connection to the lesbian. What? Why would you feel? Why would you what? Feel connection to the lesbian community besides despite being a trans man. So in other words because they don't want to be men Allison. That's the only thing I could figure is like they want to be trans men but they don't want to be men men. So they basically try to like read the come up with a new word instead of like saying why identify as a man because men are evil so we got to be something different. So we're going to be gender expansive lesbians which is a way of avoiding the man label.

I think that all this stuff trans masculine non-binary when women do it I think that it's they they don't want to be men but they want to be special somehow. So. Anyway. So it's an umbrella term for individuals who broaden commonly held definitions of gender including their expression associated identities or perceived gender norms. This identity can manifest in various ways such as expression a person may present in ways that challenge gender stereotypes. Example, a cisgender woman who presents as butch or masculine while still identifying as a woman. Whatever that even means identity a person may identify as non-binary gender queer or trans masculine but still claim the lesbian label due to political alignment. Oh so you admit that it's political community belonging or attraction patterns.

Fluidity some gender expansive lesbians may be gender fluid shifting their gender expression or identity over time while maintaining their attraction of women. Yes go ahead. So it's not doing this gay men. Yeah gay men. Yeah well gay men too sure no gay men are just that's why when I was reading the story and they kept saying he for this noir person I was like that's not a man that's a warning. Yeah. Just based on the way they're acting because a gay man would just go to a different bar. So it's like well I'm just going to go somewhere else. So unfortunately gay men are still men. Yeah. Yes. So anyway. Even like even the penny ones they're still men. Yep. You can be a man and be slightly feminine. Just like you can be a woman and be slightly feminine you don't need an infinite variety of special categories for yourself.

I mean a woman and masculine in it not feminine. Sorry. Okay. Left. All right. It's low. Okay so I'm suddenly couple things. What? My left touch controller is low. Low battery? Uh oh. Yep. Shit. So that was great. Great. Great. A quick primer on what gender expansive lesbian means. Um. There you go. I'm going to go to the next one. And. Let's see. I. Why.

What. I need to take a break to change my. Did you finish it or you got your heart. No. Are you fucking kidding me. I think I'm like one quarter the way through. I need to change my. Yeah. Yeah. It's a long song. What were you thinking? I'm just going to get a little bit more. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to go back to the article. So. I reached noir who identifies as a gender expansive lesbian and uses he and pronouns by zoom a few days later. So now we know what a gender expansive lesbian is. I ask whether he has any sympathy for those running last ditch. Given the profound financial strain they are under. No, he replies. I asked to be referred to by his stage name because he says he has been stalked and fears for his safety. Yeah, sure. I'm not going to give grace when someone is spreading rhetoric that can and will get people hurt. He says referring to the fact that the bar's account had liked a few comments supporting the relaxed rule.

Remember, this is all about a bar that was going out of business. If they don't make more money. So they relax a rule on masking for one day out of the week. One day. Remember, think about that when they write all kinds of articles about how some men are complaining about girls' night. They're not shutting companies down. They're not going out of protesting. They're just annoyed with it. And it's not, it's most men are not bothered by it. It's only a few. So just keep that in mind. Anyway. I think you girls' nights anymore? I think they do still, yeah. But I don't think it's like as common or popular as it used to be. So. But I don't know. Well, it's because there's no men going to bars anymore. Yeah, actually, just realize something. No, I'm not fucking asking women out.

Women are not asking women out. No, they're not. Why would they? Moreover, the mask policy change promotes these ableist ideas that disabled people, immuno-compromised people, should either risk their health or just be pushed out of spaces, he says. Noir, who lives about 50 minutes south of Greenfield, estimates he has visited the bar seven or eight times. But he won't return unless there is new leadership. You can't repair a house that's on fire. I get that with a breather. So this is a person who's been there like eight times. And they're basically, they want to make these kinds of demands, this ultimatum, it's crazy. Um, alright, anyway. Saturday, September 12th is the second weekly mask optional night at last dish. This is literally like only the second week since this whole fiasco started. Donna set a stairs in a small concrete courtyard, a few people mill outside smoking, another handful, linger inside near the bar, under string lights, a dance floor, a wide-checkered expanse

with a stripper pull at the center is empty. Of course, nobody's dancing. They're all disabled. I mean, I don't mean they're in wheelchairs. They're all identifying as disabled for one reason or another. They're probably just... They're all competing under this court. Yeah, yeah. When I say they're disabled, they're like literally disabled. I'm saying that they identify as a... A question at the court to be disabled. So they're all competing over that. Um, Mattelian is one of the few people wearing a mask. I talk with her and another volunteer melody young. In a small library tucked inside an alcove by the bar, filled with zines and lesbian classics such as Stone Butch Blues. This is all to their, they're also their free store, which carries food, clothes, fentanyl test strips, Narcan, literature about STIs and other supplies. Above us, hang a sign, prom cancelled cos lesbians. They have fentanyl test strips.

What? Wait, what Stone Butch Blues? I want to look that up. Um... What are fentanyl test strips? I want to see what that is too. Hold on. Fentanyl test strips. Narcan, I don't know what that is either. Literature about STIs and other supplies. So let me just see. I think Narcan is a drug of some kind. Uh, it's a nasal spray. So, um... Okay. Narcan is a nasal spray as a treatment design to rapidly reverse the effects of a life threatening opioid emergency. What? Okay, okay. What is going on at this bar? That's what I want to know. Fentanyl test strips are low cost harm reduction tool used to detect the presence of fentanyl and its analogs in illicit drugs before consumption. They are primarily designed for testing powders, pills, and injectable substances by dissolving a small sample in water and dipping the strip for approximately 15 seconds.

So there, that's what a fentanyl test strip is. I guess they have some issues in this area. I don't know. Alright, anyway, Stone Butch Blues. Uh, published in 1993, this brave original novel is considered to be the finest account ever written of the complexities of a transgendered existence. Woman or man, that's the question that rages like a storm around Jess Goldberg. Clouding her life and her identity. Growing up differently gendered in a blue collar town in the 1950s, coming out as a butch in the bars and factories of the pre-eminent 60s, deciding to pass as a man in order to survive when she is left without work or a community in the early 70s. This powerful, provocative, and deeply moving novel sees Jess coming full circle. She learns to accept the complexities of being a transgender person in a world demanding simple explanations.

A he, she, emerging whole, weathering the turbulence. Um, this is fiction though. So it's, it's not, if you want to see the reality, look up, nor a Vincent. And, uh, but no, he's going to do that. So written by Leslie Feinberg, you guys are not beating the allegations. Um, customers say that this book is a required read that captures the interest and moves them emotionally with one customer noting how it validates their frustrations and sadness. Moreover, the writing is well crafted and customers appreciate its honest portrayal of society with one review highlighting how it describes the queer lifestyle with accuracy and empathy. Additionally, customers praise the story's depth with one describing it as a well written story of grief. However, the readability receives mixed feedback with some finding it an easy read while others find it difficult to read at times. It's probably not a well written book. Um, I'm just going out on a live memory. But, uh, what is the book again?

I mean, after it's called Stone Butch Blues, a novel. It's about being trans in the 60s. And after it. Yeah. Also, why are they taking away from what gay men had to deal with at that time? Um, I don't know. I mean, because it's got to be a, it's about feminism. Uh, let's see. All right. Now, let me get back to the article. All right. I mean, it's almost over. Uh, let's see. I remember a comment on last ditches original announcement after the pile on had begun. At Scream Guy was asked, I'm sorry, all 400 of these people, these crazy people live in Greenfield, Massachusetts. Some random guy, I'm guessing some random guy was like, what the hell's going on here? I asked whether the people behind the angry as posed have genuine connections to the bar.

Are they real customers? Young and Mattelian say yes. They know many of the detractors. So these aren't just trolls that are just messing with them. These are people who go to this bar. There are people who are that are close to us and love us who are really disappointed in our decision. And that is come what? I just died. How many minutes have I been doing this? No, I don't know. Can you do a no-fail run? It's 20 minutes long. I mean, we can't be like. Besides, you've got four songs besides this one to do. Yeah. All right. All four of these people live in Greenfield, Massachusetts. Young and Mattelian says yes. They know many of the detractors. These are people who are close to us and love us who are really disappointed in our decision. And that is completely understandable, says Young, who says, who says,

her sister is one of the vocal critics online. Like, it's so understandable why they feel hurt by the way we did it and the fact that we did it. They have passion for the space, Mattelian ads. A number of people on Instagram also said they were excited to visit the space unmasked. But this night, the hope for other patrons haven't materialized. Despite $10 cocktails and sternum shivering dance tracks from DJ Harsh Noise Boyfriend. What? That's the name of the DJ? DJ Harsh Noise Boyfriend. Is that another tune or like angry woman? Let me find. So, this is a real person. I looked them up on their Instagram. DJ Hard. Oh no, it's a, it's a, is that a man? Is that a man? Wait, hold on. Experimental sound design. Western Massachusetts. Look. Rush just got to be a man. I think that's a trans man.

I think that's a trans man. That's not, that's not a man. They got like the, because you know the trans man. Have you ever noticed, have you ever noticed that trans men, when they, when they start to live as men, they live as the most douchey looking dude they can think of. And they think that's what men are. You know, they get like a bunch of tattoos, they wear like white beaters. They get like the girl massive beards. Like they go all out. Like they, they, they try to, it's like they're wearing a costume of what they think men are like. Well, yes, because they're actually women. Yes. And that's what they women think a manhood is, is a costume. Yes. Well, yes, especially if you are buying this identity stuff. Anyway. So, DJ Harsch noise boyfriend. At the queer bar that occupied this space before last ditch, where masks were not required, a night like this might have drawn a hundred people estimates mixy.

The bartender on duty that night. A trans woman with thick black eyeliner and cat-like poise, mixy is closeted to her day job as an engineer. She loves the bar enough to work for just tips knowing that last ditch is in the red. But she thinks that early dogmatism about masks was a mistake. People don't like to feel scolded, she says. That's not how hospitality works. So, this is a man. This is a biological man. And he's the only person that's being reasonable in the whole story. I'm sorry guys. I mean, these trans people are like, oh, you can be a man. But the problem is that you don't behave like men or women. This guy says he's a woman. He's the only one being sensible. And actually, he's saying, oh, wait, well, I mean, they're just external realities that must be accommodated. And perhaps this was, you know, like the most sensible thing has come from a trans woman. Really, I'm really surprised. Right. In this instance, anyway.

Yep. If he's still passing in his day job. No, he's still, no, in this day job, he's in a closet. So, in his day job, he just looks like a man. Yeah. So, I'm guessing that this person didn't go like all out in terms of like surgeries and stuff. No. And they're probably just... He's still... He's the most rational person in this entire mess. Yeah. And also, the only one who's trying to do something to help, to genuinely help. You notice that? He's actually sacrificing something to genuinely help. Yeah. He's volunteering here just for tips. Right. He's volunteering his time. He's an engineer. His time is probably worth $120 an hour. And he's volunteering it. Right. How many hours of this shift? Six, whatever, four? All right. So, he's giving them that money to try to help the woman who is being destroyed by this,

because of the $50,000 loan. So, he's the only one chipping in, and the only one who makes any sense. I just want to point that out. Why does he want to ruin that with estrogen? Well, I don't know. Maybe he's just going to wear a costume, and that's it. Yeah, I hope. I don't know. Roboto gives a dollar and says, me thinks that... Me thinks trans has gotten too political. Yeah, you think? All right. You know, the funny thing is there was a time, I remember, when it wasn't that political. Yeah. No, I'm sure there was a time where it didn't look that political. But I think it was always political. It's just that a lot of people just thought it was a lifestyle thing, or something that answered questions they had about their own identity. But I think it was always political. TLD or TLD or TLD or says,

given the topic has no one requested gay bar by Electric Six. That's kind of funny. All right. I'm going to take it to a gay bar. That's the song. That's it? No, that's not the whole song. I'm just saying that's the part I know. That's the only, that's the part I know. I just heard, I think I heard on the radio. How long have I been doing this song? It feels like forever. It's 20 minutes, 21 minutes and 12 seconds. I know. You agreed to this. I know. Okay. Anyway. Just after midnight, one person is left at the bar, a regular who works at the Mexican restaurant next door. She wonders aloud about holding a Lady Gaga theme night. But Mixy Demures, Gaga is canceled, she says. Gaga is Zionist. How many more intersections can we throw into this?

Like in stew. Is Gaga Zionist? Lady Gaga, apparently. That's what this person is claiming. So yeah, Gaga's canceled. Gaga is Zionist. The DJ is still playing EDM and Mattelian is alone on the checkered dance floor making pensive graceful loops on the stripper pole. KN95 mask in place. She's just going to have to become a stripper. Mattelian doesn't expect a conflict at last ditch to end soon. She plans to co-operatize the bars so she doesn't bear so much financial liability, but that will come with its own challenges and the discord about masking is unlikely to go away. But it comes with the territory, she says. There's conflict, but we just hope that there is more repair than conflict. That's the price you pay to be in a community. Mattelian says. And that's the end of the article.

The trans man, the trans woman who works as an engineer likes this girl. No, I think that person is, well that's also the same person that said that Lady Gaga's canceled. Oh. So. Um. I'm just saying maybe he has an interest in the Chico running the bar. I don't know, I have my doubts. He's probably gay. I mean that's what I would think. It's possible, but I don't know. It's kind of a hole in the wall bar too. I'm talking about that. So yeah. Who would have thought that the intersectional lesbian, uh, COVID conscious bar would have closed down after a short amount of time after the original found. But the original founders left leaving one woman holding the bag and everyone attacking her for.

Basically, every is the phobic allegation that you can think of. Because she doesn't want, she wants to actually pay off the loan that she's on the phone. Because she wants a successful business. To pay off the loan she's on the hook for. Right. So what do we learn from this? Never get involved in these initiatives. Never volunteer. How does it volunteer? Just trying to help them out, end up with this fucking loan from these cheats. You notice how they have absolutely no sense of accountability? Of course. Yeah. It's amazing. I wish there were comments. I really do. I wish there were comments, but there are none. What are the comments where? Uh, like comments under the article. But they're not. Which is a shame.

I'm trying to see if there's like maybe there's a post somewhere else where people are talking. About it. Oh, good lord. Yeah, this is like the story of the year. This one. It's so good. I mean, I mean, you just got to laugh because like, I mean, there's nothing you can do but laugh. It's sad, but it's the only way people are going to learn anything is if they suffer. So. Yeah. Oh, the leader board won't upload. Oh, no. But you finished the song. Maybe that's. No, I didn't finish. Yeah, finish it. I don't- well I did but I still lost so... Oh... Okay. Well maybe you'll get an A for effort. Yeah.

Come on, I'll hold the scores. No. Network error. Maybe it's due to the blackout. Okay, let me do the other ones. Okay, let me give you the one that went through as a superchap first. Okay. All right. Ramban3000 says, can you do Ram- Ramsteen's Ich-Will. Ich-Will. So it's Ramstein. Ramstein, whatever. R-A-M-M-S-T-E-I-N. And the song is Ich-Will. I-C-H-W-I-L-L. I just want- it's 1-M. Uh, Ramsteen is 2-M's. Mmm. Ugh, my thing is fogged up. Dynes. S-T. No, E-I-N.

Hmm. Ich-Will. Okay. How long is it? Three and a- okay. I don't think these other songs are that long. I think they're like normal song length. All right, anyway. So... And I wonder what happened to the chick that went to clown college? Did she graduate? Probably not. Imagine dropping out of clown college. Are you- Oh my god. That's just like a cat. Like, clown college, she already was in one. Yeah, no, no, no. It's in one. Oh man. I've got a mad telling the story. I dropped out of clown college. I-I wasn't funny enough.

I wasn't even funny enough to look at. So it's so messed up, man. To like get people caught up in some kind of like business venture and no one is taking it seriously enough. To actually do- The blood he was on the hook. Yeah. Yeah. At that point, I would have just been like, nope, you guys don't deserve my- You need putting myself on the hook like this. This is no longer a lesbian bar, it's a gay bar. Fuck off. But I just make it a gay bar. Yeah. You'll probably make your money back and your clientele will be a lot better. A lot more appreciative at least. Or if you want to do a real poke in the eye, make it a straight bar. I don't think there are any of those though. Three bars? Yeah.

No, there's just bars. And that's fine. Only anyone cares. All right, now after this, we gotta go through the- The three. It's just three, right? That we're sent? I think you're gonna have to put- No, no, no, no, no, no. There's four. We got one, two, three, four. There's five actually. Well, the note is four because the Grand Orch song is on there. So yeah, there's four. You want me to say no more requests? Yeah, how many total song requests do we have? Five. Six, actually, six because this one- Okay, no more requests. So six total. Okay. That one, the 20 minute one, sort of shattering. Yeah, here you go.

Oh, I see, said, wrapped out because she had nothing more to learn. And in clowns school, she realized she had a Ph.D. Learned. The clown school was the friends I made along the way. Yeah. Let me see, let me see what else you guys are saying in the chat while I'm still doing the songs. Red Stable says she fell for one of the classic blunders. Never ever involved with a lesbian when dead is on the line. Never going to involve with a lesbian when dead is on the line. Student loans for clown college. That's it. And of course, like feminists and lesbians online are really angry that this story got out.

And they're like, stop talking about this. This doesn't reflect us. Yes, it does. The fact that you came out and you're not just joining in the fact in chorus of making fun. Yeah, I think that basically like sums up. But anyway. No, it certainly does reflect you that you are like Brian said not joining in instead of defending yourself. That's exactly the same behavior you see. Yeah. All right. Oh, okay. Next one. All right. That was Ramstein. Iqwil. Thank you. And then, what is this is from Beat Saber request.

It was the first post we got for 10 and do. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me go back to the one 21, 20, 21, 12. Oh, I'm dead last and it's only 20. Okay, never mind. Well, you got in the first. Nobody does that. I know, but he qualified that there has to actually be more than 100 people who've done this. Oh, nobody. Only about 17 people were willing to do 20 minutes of rush. I wonder why. Okay. What's the next one? Next song is. Okay, this is from Beat Saber request. It's Goku Raku Jo Do regular version. So let me just spell it out for you because this is weird. Uh, G-O-K-U-R-A-K-U. That's one word.

G-O-K-U-R-A-K-U. Got it? Oh, just. Okay. Okay, Judo. Okay. Judo regular version by Garden, D'Elia. And W and W. Is that the one you got that? Yeah, I got it. Got it. All right. All right. You doing that one now? All right. Yeah. I actually discovered, I think it's easier just to search the song and then do it. It's like we've shit. Yeah. Um. Let's see. What else we got here going on. I'm just saying. Seven years ago, these women would just be having children. Yeah. Or, you know, they'd be like, I don't know, going into the Baron Wastes.

Like walking. Walking into the Baron Wastes. Well, this is certainly a better use of their con. Mm-hmm. Oh, apparently, here's a something that's kind of interesting. There's a new indie video game that is like crushing the, what do you call it? The sales, crushing sales numbers.

And people are finding it kind of interesting. I'm going to double check it. Look it up here. Okay. The game is called Dressmaker. Um, and it's described as Become a Dressmaker. Choose Fabric, Cut Out Patterns, and sew them all together to satisfy or sabotage townfolk in this cosy crafting game inspired by real dressmaking. Guess who it's really popular with. You know what? I'm going to say women, but I'm also going to say why couldn't women's interventions in gaming been pissed up like this? Yeah. Just create woman games. Just create woman games. They're already art. Well, that's the thing though. Obviously, there already are women games. I've always been games for girls and women. But, um, the thing is that the game, the part of the games industry that's constantly getting like shit on.

And changed and all that is all the stuff that boys like. It's the stuff that's popular with men and. Yeah, but my point is stop doing that. I know. I know. But, but it's also, it also, but the reason for this too is that men invest more money in gaming than women by like orders of magnitude. So it's a much bigger audience. So developers. Okay. Okay. Developers. Think that they can get the the female audience by changing the content of the games by you know, altering the content like to where they add in female characters. They add in more of the female like way of, you know, experiencing things into male games, making them more emotional and dramatic and stuff. And, um, it's not popular with men or women. Um, because women don't really want that like like they want games like the dressmaker game, which is again like it's selling really well. And the problem with that is that these activist types they, they believe that there should be no difference between men and women.

So when, when women don't respond to the stuff that they changed, they don't know what to do about it because they can't shame them. But so what they do instead of they just try to say attempt them like always try to be doing this. But they don't want to do that. They, like Lindsay, who, Supergirl movie. Lindsay, yeah, like Lindsay who plays like games with me. We play Resident Evil together. We play uh repo together and stuff like that. She gets into these kind of like cozy games too. Like, um, for her Minecraft is one of those games. So she plays a lot of Minecraft on, you know, on occasion. And also there's like these sort of like they're like um bakery simulators like where you go into the kitchen to make like, you know cakes and I think it's like cake making simulator or something like that. And you can design them and stuff and she, you know, gets a kick out of that sometimes. And I wouldn't say that Lindsay is the most feminine woman, but you know she has a feminine side for sure.

But um, I think that it's, it's basically like the problem is that men and women are not the same. And people think that they should be. And so they're trying to force that. That's what they're doing. And of course the only way to do it is by messing with the stuff that men like. Of course. Yeah, that's the outcome. Unfortunately, they're completely hypocritical again about saying that men and women are the same because they have a scribe to set of characteristics to men based on men's biology. Right. And that's not treating men and women as the same. Sure. That deciding a new different dichotomy that you then assert with almost a tyrannical level. So I mean, yeah, they say they want men and women to be the same. But ultimately what I think they want is they want to just destroy men. Sure. Yeah. I will. Yeah, I have men. Yeah, next song. Yep. Um, green and doors sent five and said Chicago musical overture all that jazz.

So Chicago musical overture all that jazz. Who to sent this? Green and doors sent this. He said Russian and this. And this is a jazz. But what were you going to say about this game? Um, Not nothing except that it's just like it was a big hit for an indie game. So the like and it is, it is mostly being played by women and girls. And there's nothing wrong with that except that people are upset by it because they they they think that like they don't like the idea that I guess there is something that has women figured out like, oh, you guys like this. Let's give you this and they're like, you're not supposed to know what we want. It's like they want to remain. I don't know like mysterious, unknowable like, you know, like I noticed that.

Yeah, Chicago musical. Yeah, Chicago jazz, but not under Chicago musical Chicago musical overture all that jazz. Classical in the sky. It is on beat saver. Um, that's not it. Try. Do you want to try the link instead? Oh, that's going to be very difficult for me to try all that jazz by itself. See if you can find it there. I'll do the old one. Okay. Chicago. Okay, here we go. Not sure why the other one didn't do it. Yeah. Okay, there we go. Playing.

How many have we done? Got two more? Um, beat all that jazz. There's three more after this. No, no, two more. You're right. Two more. Two more after this. Three total. Five, six, seven, eight. The this is the song all that jazz. Mm-hmm.

All right. Uh. Very jazzy. Mm-hmm. Sort of refreshing actually. Yeah. It's got that little bit of that noir feeling. So you sure we have two more songs after this? Two more after this. Remember summer days, Matt Cross by Tellumnarr and Richard B. Ayers, just a girl, by no doubt.

So this has actually been sevens. I mean, that's only if you count 2112 as one song. In that case, it's been 20 songs. Yeah. No, let's see. It would have been 10 songs. You count that as four songs plus the other six. Well, actually, Dwyer is a little bit later than the Roaring 20s. Mm-hmm. I'm looking up just see if there's anything else going on. Did we ever find out what the hell of fentanyl strip is?

Yeah, it's something that you use to detect whether or not an opiate has fentanyl in it. The strip can be, I guess, if it's in a liquid or some other substance, you can dip it in there. And in a few seconds, it'll change color to tell you that there's fentanyl in there. So it's just so you don't end up taking fentanyl instead of whatever you were intending to take, like Molly or whatever. It's funny. In any regular bar where there's men, the idea that these even exist, there would be freaking campaigns everywhere about men drugging women. But when it's a lesbian bar, they don't just pretend like that's not a problem. They actually give you the tools to figure out if they're, if somebody did try to hand me some fentanyl. It's a good thing I got my fentanyl strips. Thanks, you know, last ditch. Also, you guys are problematic. It's terrible. Oh, man.

This is like the best thing ever. I'm sorry. It's just really funny to me. Can't help it. You know that I think cocaine has the same, it activates the same regions of the brain as actual relationship bonding. So drugs can actually be a way of compensating for a lack of hair bonding. In our society. We're self-medicating essentially. Because we can't breed. Or we can't form relationships to get to that point. And we are thus an incredibly miserable species that has to drug itself to continue to exist. But we can't actually address that.

Yeah. So I got two more after all that jazz, all right. Love it. I have to do squats. Oh, no. What? What? What? So there's like this, there's this company that makes dairy products called the Laughing Cow. And you might have seen, I mean, I don't know if they haven't in Canada, but I've seen in the States for sure. The Laughing Cow has like a cow's head. It's like red on like a white background. And it's normally like a smiling cow. They've changed their mascot smile with a straight face on some of the packaging. And the new packaging reads, we need to talk. But the company says she'll explain when she's ready. After more than 100 years, yes, the Laughing Cow is over 100 years old as a company.

The Laughing Cow has stopped laughing. We need to talk. So I'm guessing that... I don't know. It's probably going to be some... Was it going to create cow milk for vegans? I have no idea. But this bar is that destroyed itself? I don't know yet. The Laughing Cow has spent 100 years reminding us not to take life too seriously. So when she suddenly gets serious, you pay attention. Whatever finally got to her must be worth talking about. We'll let her explain where she's ready. This could just be a marketing gimmick. But I have this feeling that Laughing Cow is about to get serious about and lose a lot of customers. That's what I'm guessing is going to happen here. That was in one of the... We're going to get preachy and people are going to be like, no, fuck this. Yeah.

How long is that song? Four minutes? That felt a little bit long, but... Okay, next is... Tell them to remember Summer Days Macross. Is that from... Remember Summer Days? Macross. Is that one from... Macross. That movie that we watched, tell them to... I'm going to use the other search. This is turning out not to be the better song. Imagine the laughing cow is vague posting online. I'm going to tell you when I'm ready, but I'm not happy right now.

If a normal person does that, it's annoying to me because obviously it's applied for attention. Oh, what's wrong? Oh, I hope you're okay. Oh, my God. Oh, my God, I'm getting mad at it. But a fucking corporation. I'm doing it. Oh, man. Sad. Sad, sad, sad. This is weeb. This is weeb shit. It should be here. Let me read it again. It's... Remember Summer Days Macross. So... I'm not saying it. Unless it's under some other... Remember... I'm not misspelling this. Summer...

Days... Yeah. Any? Oh. Remember Summer Days? Remember Summer Days? Macross. No, I'm not seeing it. That's very strange. That's weird. You want to... I mean, I'm just telling you how he sent it. I don't know if he knows it. Okay. I'm not blaming you. I know. Okay. Upload details.

Close details. Upload details. Close details. Fun set. Macross. Fun tonight. It's 829. Selfish high, horsey. Maybe there's another detail you need to send us, tellin' her. Okay, what's the next song? I'll get that one done. Well, the last one is by Richard Bierre. It's just a girl by no doubt. Got it. All right. All right. Let's play that. And is Tell Noir around? Maybe he can inform us. I don't see him in the chat. I don't know. You haven't slow-song, Allison.

Do I? Yes. Oh, my God. How did that happen? How did you know? I know this song, and it was playing slow.

I don't think it was running high. I can't do this. Just looking at what else is going on here. Apparently, Rachel Wilson and Roma are beefing online. Why? Well, you know, Roma invented the men's rights activism, right? And I think Rachel had... She went after... Roma went after Andrew for his debate with that one lesbian feminist who basically came back to the league. What did Roma say? Roma basically thinks that Andrew is a meany-pants, mean person. And therefore he has no place in the movement because she decides who is Anand Wu's not. It needs to be a lot more mean men. Yes, I agree. This is what we need.

We need a fricking... We need a tsunami of men who just don't fake women's shit. Um... Go ahead. If I were Andrew Wilson, I'd just say thank you. I'm glad we are... I am exactly what the world needs. A mean man. And the other thing is like, like, I... I would say that, like, the whatever podcast guys are mean, too, right? Mm-hmm. And yet, I dare you. I dare anybody who says those guys are mean to look at the Angry Leprechauns argument with Rachel Wilson. Remember that? Yes. And now his... Dricken eyeballs were popping out of their skull and you can see his... His native Irish desire to beat the shit out of a woman and just, you know, reaching out of his... Fricking eyes towards her. And, uh... He looked... Murderous. I've never seen the whatever podcast guys look murderous, even though they're dealing with the absolute...

Most frustrating... Dumb... Hypocritical... Lying... Moral-less... De-generate... Bitches on the fucking internet. And they still have more patience than a feminist man or, I think, he's a feminist man, dealing with a woman who can argue in a calm and logical way just because she disagreed with him. Right? I'm just pointing that out. Mm-hmm. There's a difference between a mean man and a dangerous one. And that feminist man was a dangerous one. Okay, I'm done that one. I don't know if telennars... That's all there is. That's all the songs. I don't know where telennars are. Tell me more about this. Tell me more about this. Be... Well, I mean, I guess, okay, so like... Uh... Andrew and Rachel have been, you know, mainly their primary focus is criticizing feminism, which I'm fine with.

And that means that they have to criticize the modern women because modern women are all feminists as our most modern men. And, um... So, I think that Roma, despite the fact that her platform is probably like the biggest men's rights platform, sadly, let me just check, because I think she is the biggest... What does it because she's self-pitches of her bumble? That I... Yeah, maybe. That's what people say. I don't know the truth, okay? But that's probably something to it. I don't know if it's going to be on the appeal. Like, honestly, I'm going to be caddy here. What the... No, maybe it's just the skankiness. She's got 1.69 subscribers or million. So almost... And we're gonna... She's coming up on two million subs on her channel. Yeah, lovely, I... Yeah, yeah. It is. And yeah, I mean, the content is...

It's not groundbreaking. Like, it's all stuff that we've been saying 10 years ago, you know? No, it's not even stuff we've said 10 years ago. It's like watered down something we've said for years. Isn't Pearl bigger than her? I don't know. Let me see. She doesn't like Pearl at all, too, by the way. Roma, that is. And I think it's because she doesn't... Like, she thinks they're just meany-pants mean people. Yeah, two million, Pearl's bigger. Two million subs. So... She's far more than as right, see, I'm sorry. Oh, for sure. Yeah. It's just drama. Well, Allison's asking about the drama, so... Yeah, I'm asking about the drama, so... Anyway. So, because Roma... She, like, doesn't like it when people are competing with her that has a tone that she dislikes. Like, I remember when she was making recommendations. I watched one of her videos, it was years ago. And she recommended one male men's rights activist,

the Tin Men. And I had the Tin Men on the channel. I said, okay, I'll get this guy on, and we'll talk to him. He also recommended the advocate and Emily King. And look, I... The advocate's good. She's gotten some laws changed, or helped get some laws changed in certain states. That's nice. Emily King, you know, I guess. I mean, she's fine. Like I said, I'm not sure if she's gonna be okay with that. Like I said, I'm not hearing anything from any of them, but I didn't hear already from, you know, us, or Karen, or whatever. But it's fine. And... But I think that what it comes down to is that Andrew and Rachel are competition for Roma. So, she basically looked at their content, said that they were being mean, and was like, this is not how I want this to community to look. She also had some pretty shitty takes, like on Kyle Rittenhouse and stuff in the past. But she... Then I think that what really did it was... He debated, I can't remember her name, but there was this woman.

We actually made a video where we responded to the debate, where a woman basically tried to accuse Andrew's wife of being like a whore that sleeps around with lots of men, and has lots of babies from different people, and tried to use that to essentially just credit everything that he sang. So, she made personal attacks, unfounded allegations, by the way. Rachel has talked openly about this. She was in previous marriages. She's like, you know, it just didn't work out for her. It was bad at the time, and Andrew was willing to basically like marry her and raise her children. And he also had some of his own with her. Now, you can have whatever feeling you want about that that you want, but I think that's a good thing to do, because I'd rather those kids grow up with an involved stepfather than no father. And this woman who attacked him along those lines, she had no interest in what was good for the children. She just wanted to attack her enemy in the debate.

And so what he did was he basically started doing... He used her same tactic against her, and started calling her a dyke and stuff. And he wasn't doing it because he felt like being mean. He was doing it to make a point, which is if you attack me personally, I'm going to attack you personally. And that was the clip that went viral all over the internet, where no people understood what was really going on, which was him exposing her tactics by using them on her. And when other people highlighted them and say, look at him, he's being mean, they're just proving his point about what she was doing. But of course, when a woman does it to a man, nobody thinks it means anything. Like it doesn't have the same weight. So Roma also took the bait on this, and she was also like, look at how mean he's being to these women. And then they were supposed to debate each other. Like she was like, I'll debate you, and Andrew was like, okay. And I, something happened, I think it involved like money or something that Roma wanted. She said that she got held up and couldn't cross the border or something.

And Andrew had to cancel, because he had other things. And then Roma said, oh, he ran away from the debate. And that was what she was claiming after that. So she basically constantly makes jabs at Andrew, at Rachel, at Pearl. And anybody that she thinks is not doing the men's rights things right, which of course only she knows how to do. And Rachel challenged her to a debate. That was the last thing I saw. So I'd like to see that. I don't know if it's going to happen. But I'd like to see that because Roma is like the definition of a midwit. Like she doesn't, she is not as smart as she thinks she is. And unfortunately, she bought into like the simps that surround her. And I think that's the other part of this that, you know, people don't want to reckon with is that a lot of the reason why Roma is this delusional is because of men. And that's the truth. So. Okay. So I tell them our gave me some additional details.

So I should be able to find this song. I should probably do that right now, because I know they've got to get going. But for those of you who I got through your song, please do put those that, that $25 to feed the badger.com slash support. Thank you. Remote Ruby. You put in 25 very much appreciated. So. If the, okay, let's see if I can do this because I got to remember it. I'm going to send it to you actually via Superchild, what he sent me. And then you can, you can read it out to me. So we can get this done. It shouldn't take too much longer. I'm just a completionist. All right. Back into the rig. All right. What's going on? Future phone pack. Remember summer days. Future phone pack. Remember summer days. Okay. For some reason, this is not working now.

Did it? Yes, it did. God damn it. It just quit. Just give me a second. I got to get it all set up again. Huh. Okay. This sounds like a ridiculous. So why don't they just redo the timing for the debate? I don't know. I wasn't following it that close. I'm not sure. I know that the Wilson's are really busy. I don't know about Roma. I think that like, I just want to see it like resolved, I guess. But I'd rather, you know, people be focused on what really matters. But I know that that's not really how this works, especially with Roma. I think I genuinely do think that Rachel and Andrew have good intentions. And I don't care about their attitude. I think that if you are concerned with that, it's way too late for pleasantries. We're way past that at this point. We're just going to have to be mean to people, guys. I'm sorry. Just kind of to be mean. So let's just be mean.

Stop dancing around it because they use that against you so you can't actually like talk. You know, it's crazy. Yeah. Okay. I can't seem to launch this. It's not it's not opening up. Okay. I think it's the, I think we, we, we, the, um, I can go and see if Jonathan is around to fix it. That'll take a moment. But well, I think I'm, can we just, I'm sorry. Can we just, because I got to go. I'm going to be late. Okay. So maybe we should just wrap it up and then do another day. So. All right, then. Okay. Sorry, tellin' her. Um. We got to get going and unfortunately it didn't show up. And now the, that driver error that we were racing ahead of is, has manifested. So, um, thank you to Richard Beer for putting in $25 and, and, uh, nobody else has put anything in yet though.

So let's see. If you, if you did get a song request and I did get through your song, please go to feed the Badger.com slash support and put something in the hat for. Brian, myself, um, Hannah and HBR for the month. Uh, once again, let's feed the Badger.com slash support. There are. I think we did six song seven songs, right? Six. Uh, we did. Seven. I think we'll see one, two, three, four, five. No, six. We did six. Okay. Well, okay. We got one, two, three, four, five. Um. Oh, wait, wait, wait. What the heck? Are. Oh, um, are these like. Did great indoors give us like seven? Oh, is this just the same song? Rush 21 12. Overcharge. Yeah, yeah, that's the rush song. Yes.

Wow, that is incredibly pretentious. Okay. So you're right. It's just six. Yeah, six. Six long. So anyway, so I managed to finish five of them. So please, please do, uh, put something through if I did get your song done. I think there are four of you more. I'd see two, three, three more of, um, who, who did put, who did request something. All right. I'm going to hand this back to Brian. And once again, if you want to support the show, feed the Badger.com slash support. And I will hand this back to Brian because he's got to get going. Yeah, I got to go. So please consider subscribing to the channel. Don't like, don't, don't share the video, um, because it's not, there's no point in it. And it's going to go unlisted over here on YouTube right now. So please, um, subscribe, hit the bell, notifications. Thank you for all your support. And we'll talk to you guys in the next one. Have a good rest of your week and everybody.

As Los Angeles continues to celebrate what was an unforgettable FIFA World Cup 2026, we proudly thank our host city supporters, Amgen, Archer Aviation, Kaiser Permanente, LA Tourism, and Metro. Your partnership and commitment helped us celebrate our diverse communities and showcased the very best of the Los Angeles region. Together, we're building a lasting legacy that will continue to inspire our communities and shape the future of major events in Los Angeles. Thank you for helping us show the world why we love LA. For more, visit LASCC.net. I'm Cassandra, a licensed Ralph's pharmacist passionate about helping patients navigate their GLP1 journeys. Whether you're just getting started and need help finding ways to save money on your GLP1 prescription or are looking for daily support for side effects, we're here to help you, because your health journey continues beyond the prescription. And so does our care. At Ralph's Pharmacy, you can expect real people with real answers for your GLP1 journey, restrictions and exclusions apply, cease sight or the pharmacy for details.

More episodes

More from Honey Badger Radio

View all episodes →