Lost in Space Game Night

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2:08Because once again, StartTalk has collaborated with National Geographic Books to release our latest installment titled Lost in Space, 5,000 Facts to Navigate the Universe. This is being held by my co-author, Lindsay Nix Walker. Lindsay, hello. Hello. Hello, middle name Nix NYX. That's right. Not K and I C K S. No. Nix. No, no. I had it before Nix were cool. Nix is a mythological. Nix is a Greek goddess. She's supposedly the only goddess that Zeus feared. She is born of chaos and giver to dreams. Oh, damn. That's heavy stuff. That's heavy stuff. Paul, yes. Hey, dude. Also, Greek mythology name. God of pizza delivery. Good to see you guys. Well, welcome back to StartTalk.

3:09Congrats on the book. Thank you. Very happy for you. Thank you. Lindsay Karen, your ass. So, you cooked up this episode. I had nothing to do with this. I'm excited about this. She's got this. She put stuff together. I don't even know what I'm doing. This is a StartTalk team effort. We've never done this before. This is StartTalk chaos edition. We have a wheel here. It's called Wheel of Nail. Take it for a spin. And when it lands on something, can you spin it a little bit more enthusiastically? Thank you. Exactly. Yeah, this isn't an assisted living facility. Show some energy. Oh, higher, lower. Higher, lower. Now, are we winning something at the end of the stage? I know, right? Do I get something? Do I get a watch, maybe? Right. Like a nice watch from my friend Niel? Free tour of the museum. Yes. I have on this card numbers and facts. You have to tell me if the next number is higher or lower than the first number. To start, you're going to guess this number. The distance and feet that Alan Shepard had a golf ball on the moon.

4:11280 feet. Great guess. The moon's gravity is lower. We'll stay airborne longer. He's got a puffy suit. But he likes golf. Right. So. And did the question include explain why? No. I'm going to say 350 feet. OK, you're both wrong. It is less than that. It is 120 feet. What? I thought he hit it like 100 yards. I thought he had a like 40. Oh, you know what it could be? When you're on a smaller cosmic object, the horizon is closer to you. But what does that have to do with how? Because when you hit something a certain distance, it's like, that's halfway to the horizon. But if the horizon isn't very far, you brain misinterprets what just happened. But who calculated that? It was an actual number. They looked where the thing hit the moon. It shouldn't theory go farther if you are not wearing a puffy spacesuit. But he had a huge spacesuit on his. This is Apollo. One of the Apollo machines. They had gigantic pictures. And it was one hand. Right.

5:11If there were a word for non-golfer, it would be me. Yeah, you know what's saying? Is this number higher or lower than 120? The wind speed in miles per hour at Uranus's equator higher or lower than 120. It feels like it should be greater than 120. I want to go greater. 175. 175 miles per hour. So I don't know this number. But Uranus is tipped on its axis like a lot. And so the equator gets direct heat from the sun. It's got to be much higher than that. The sun drives convection and other movement. Right. Check my answer please. No. I'm going to say 500 mile an hour. It's actually 560 miles per hour top speed. What? Wait, this is rigged. How about you? How about you? You thought? Yeah. I got better things to do. I got a dog walking business now. I lost my job at the late show. There's just tremendous turbulence because different parts of that planet are being heated

6:15maximally at different times. And that does nothing but create ground winds. The number of times Uranus has orbited the sun since its discovery. So let's see. We're about 200 and roughly 250 years. There would be greater than 560. It's doing a math in its head. Twice. That's dangerous. This is me calculating a tip. I want to say that it's higher than that. I would give you a number of 870. Wow, that's a great guess. The number is 3. I don't like you anymore. You are my day. I think I might have said 2. Yeah. The number of earths that could fit across Jupiter's diameter. I got this. I don't remember. That's Star talking. I want to say 4. I actually don't remember. I think it's 11. Is it 11? I think it's around 10. It's higher. It's 10 or 11. 10 or 11. Okay. It is that big.

7:15Jupiter has blemishes bigger than earth. If we were Jupiterians and we were reorganizing the solar system trying to side who to kick out because it doesn't make planet status, there would only be 4 planets in the solar system. And that would be Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune and everything else would just be. Little debris. Little. Jupiter is more bigger. Compared to earth, then earth is compared to Pluto. I hate that that's grammatically correct also. Okay. Last one. Last one. I'm getting this one. I could feel it. It is higher or lower than 10 or 11. Number of monkeys named Albert sent up in rockets by the USA in the 40s and 50s. Number of monkeys. Named Albert specifically. In the 40s and 50s. Yeah. And there were a lot. Named Albert. Named Albert. Do we know why Albert Einstein I guess?

8:16Oh, that's good. Maybe. I actually don't know. Maybe. That's true man. Kind of be insulting to Einstein, especially since he was still alive at the time. The reason the 40s and 50s. So I'd be pissed off. If you're making a chimp name, a chimp's after me. It's like sending donkeys up named after Neil. How many asses were sent up? How many assed girl physicists? Yeah, exactly. Fewer than 11. You can't send 11 Albert's in a rocket. 15. So higher than 11. Higher than 11. I'm saying lower than 11. Six. Which is. There's still too many. There's still too many. There's still too many. The chimps are like, come on guys. Spoiler alert. None of them made it. Actually, the last one made it up and down. But then he died two hours later, the rest of them died. You see this fact? This is why the apes are going to take over the earth. The first monkey, Albert the first. He was actually the first mammal to reach outer space.

9:19The first mammal. That was in the 40s, I assume. The four humans, that's right. Plus, I thought all these original animals that went to space were female. That was my understanding. Oh, maybe. Is there a reason they're in female? Yeah, very good reason. Oh. Because when men pee, it goes it. Yeah. Yeah, but the piece coming out of a thing, whether it's a thing or another thing. And then it's like, quiet around. When it doesn't get aimed. Oh, the one. OK, next category. We need some music. Taboo it. So we're playing a version of taboo. Taboo it. We're going to taboo it. And all the taboo words are in my black hole. Yes. You can say anything but the word on the card. OK. One minute on the clock. One minute on the clock. Starts now. It's fast. Fastest thing in the universe. Light. Speed of light. Speed of light. Oh. A dog. You're a dog. It's a big issue in orbital dynamics and quantum mechanics.

10:23And there's a TV show with the name, a problem in orbital dynamics. You can't solve it. Oh, sorry. It's a three-body problem. Three-body problem. There you go. OK. I was going to say that. OK. You would know where near that. This is a thing that's not silver, but and it's on the side of the spaceship. Oh, a gold emblem. A platinum one. A titanium. And it's on the side of the ship. A dice. A dice. Buzzzie dice hanging from the ship. The gold pioneer plaque. Oh. Which is what I got it right here. Wait, we've also gold. That's what this is. I should have held this up. Oh. That's an unallowed though. This is one way that the everything will end. One of the ways that everything will end is called the, oh, is called the internet. It's a scientific, it's an astronomical concept and it is a way that. The big crunch. The big bang.

11:23Big bang, we don't know. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. The heat dash. Yes. Okay. Okay, this. And this is the, oh, my gosh, a gaseous planet is festooned by this. Festoon? I don't even know what that word means. It is. And I say that encircling one of the gaseous planets. Rings. Rings. Of. Santa. I don't know if that's allowed. I do it all the time. Wait. No. This is one of the, and a certain number round. Sister. Oh, seven sisters. There's a number. It's round. It's orbited by other. It's round. It moves. It's a Jupiter. There's more than five.

12:24Less than ten. Planet. Oh, this is a planet. Planet Terry bodies. I need one, one particular planet. Jupiter. Mars. Venus. Mercury. Earth. The nine planet. planet X. Planet nine. That's it. Oh, my God. Wow. You were both took a long time. All right. Here we go. Here we go. I think they all got lost in the black hole. That's a hard one because I can't say nine. And I got to say a number. That is a hard one. And then a planet is such a vague, general, you know. In your mind. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Okay.

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14:40Why not boast a little? Visit Ashley.com to shop designer deals for your home. Space Fact. The planet Uranus is knocked on its side, tilting 98 degrees from vertical. And as it rotates, depending on what time of year it is, one side just always faces the sun, and the other side faces deep space. Put a thermometer there, it is the coldest spot of any planet in the solar system. If you like that fact, you can find 4999 more in lost in space, 5,000 facts to help navigate the universe. The latest collaboration between StarTalk and National Geographic Books. Lost in Space is now available for pre-order, wherever books are sold.

15:45I remember when we compiled these facts. It took a long time. 5,000. 5,000 facts. A whole lot of facts. Yeah, it's not approximately 5,000. It's exactly 5,000. Why did you guys pick 5,000? They pick 5,000. We wanted 3,000. And they said no, we can't do it unless it's 5,000. The publisher? Yeah. They said we can't sell a book or we can't have 1,000. They pulled it out of their ass. You put 3 and the other 2 are made up. Check out the 3. I had 3,000. We wanted all facts to be start talking in DNA. And you have to say, oh, Neil, what do you mean by that? Yes. What do you mean by that? Ask me the diameter of the sun. What's the diameter of the sun? About 864,000 miles.

16:46I'm sorry, that is a problem. So now let's start talk about that. Ask me the question again. Diameter of the sun. That's a statement. Well, we're just being loose here. If you take 100 Earths and put them side to side, you'll span the width of the sun in space. I like the non-star talk better. I don't have a little day. This is a game show we can rotate you off the stage. Do you realize this? Does it cover, I would imagine, the way Star Talk episodes do, a plethora of topics from quantum mechanics to... Almost everything you can dream of. Do you back to the dream thing? Favorite facts from the book? Project Osmo. Do you know about Project Osmo? Oh, thank you. That is the name of the first official search for life in the universe. For intelligent life. For intelligent life. That's right. And it was named by Frank Drake, the Frank Drake who of the Drake equation. But do you know the Drake equation?

17:46I thought it was the Kakes family. The Drake Kakes family? That man. Yeah, he's an nephew of the George Lovato. A variety of the George Lovato. That we've all enjoyed as children. So the Drake equation, he pondered what questions you'd have to ask to shape your search for life, intelligent life in the universe. And he said, well, who would've looked for intelligent life? It's going to be on a planet. Then he said, if it's going to be on a planet, it's going to be on a planet that's not too close, not too far. And the Goldilocks zone, what fraction of stars with planets have planets in that zone. And it has to have life at all. What fraction of stars with planets and the Goldilocks zone have life? And that life has to have civilization. What fraction of planets with stars, the light, the civilization. Now, civilization is not enough because you want to talk to them through space. Right. We had the Roman Empire. If you sent radio signals to the Roman Empire, you would think nobody was here. So they have to add an extra little tech dimension to it. That you're communicating via radio waves through space. You're whittling away with all of these parameters that you've created.

18:49Correct. You have the big number of how many stars in the universe you start taking fractions. Okay. He came up with that equation, which organizes our knowledge or even our ignorance, the likelihood of life out there, which with whom we can have a conversation. Take it from there. Osma was the real and true heir of Oz, Princess Osma, and Wizard of Oz. The author of the Wizard of Oz, El Frank Fountain, he supposedly communicated with this mystical land full of exotic beings through radio, using a radio. And so Frank Drake's name to search for was a class. I don't know how to follow that fact with a favorite fact because that's a good one. That is amazing because it's very personal to her. It also revealed two things that we didn't know. I wouldn't even try if I were you. As we are assembling the periodic table. Oh my god. Can you talk like a real person? Can you just do it the way she did it? Oh my god.

19:49Why don't you stand up and go, oh my god. As we were assembling the periodic table elements because Mendeleev figured out that it's periodic. It's not just a sequence of elements. They had properties that repeat rhythmically from top to bottom. And as we're going through discovering elements, there was a hole in the periodic table. He said, there's got to be an element there. No one had ever found it. No one even knew where to look. But how could he assume that maybe that that is, it's sort of chicken or the egg. Maybe the universe said, when I'm feeling that hole. Right. Okay. Maybe. But he doesn't think he's on a fool's errand. He had enough confidence in the success of the elements that were already in place. He said, let's look for it some more. Okay.

20:49And still been fine. So they said, okay, well, how many protons should it have? Let's make it. So they went into the lab and a particle accelerator and made this element. It is the first artificially created element. But how could that have any legitimacy if they made it that they just made it up? Aren't we in the universe, too? Yes. So therefore we created an element in the universe. Okay. Right. I forgot. Good point. Never trust an atom. They make up everything. They make up everything. Okay. That's a damn joke. Safe for elementary school. Exactly. So what's the word for things that you make in modern civilization? There's a word for it. It's so common. You don't even remember why we use that word. It's called tech. Tech is human-made contributions to civilization. Tech. The name of that element is tech ECM. Quick and I drop a book.

21:51Yeah, I like Lindsay's fact better. Don't make me slap it. It's been Yoda style. What is this? Yes. You have to find a fact in this book and read it as Yoda would. Bring tides. This is in the section on tides. Is that a foreign language? What do you say? Spring tides. Especially high they are. I don't understand. If I lose my lightsaber and close up both of your heads. This is way more embarrassing than when I knew this was happening. Memories. I don't understand what it is. That's not too bad. I understand you better is Yoda than is you.

22:52And if I lose, I'll pull out my lightsaber and close up both of your head. Memories. It's like you're trying to talk after you've been to the dentist. Okay, go. What's the cat? What's the topic? Memories of asteroids and one dwarf planet called asteroid belt home. They do. Well done. That's good. What is the dwarf planet that resides with the asteroids in the asteroid dump? It's not Pluto is it? No, it's series. Okay. So while Pluto got demoted from planet to dwarf planet. Yes. Series got promoted from asteroid to dwarf planet. Ah, so they're on a level planet. Yeah, very cool. Pluto can't be happy about that. Fort point. Fort point billion years ago.

23:53Solar Solar System location forming gravity strong Jupiter may have flung series. But who directs your one-man show? Frank Oz. And who is the voice of Yoda? Frank Oz. So that was the worst Yoda I ever heard. I want to report you to him. Frank, I'm sorry. And you must die. Second. Oh. This is for the honor of Frank Oz. I thought I did it pretty well. Yeah, yeah, that was pretty well. That thing's sick as hell. Oh, who won? Gallery. You did. I'll take it. Yeah, I'll give you a little bit of a vote in the conference. Yes. Yes. Really terrible. It's really weird.

24:53Oh. Oh. Draw it. Draw it. Yeah. Okay. I think if anybody permissioned to use my hat. So what's it happen? You're going to pull a prompt from your own hat. Did you know a monkey peed in that hat on space? Don't tell us. Don't show us. Okay. You have to draw it. You have to draw it. You have to draw it. Go on. I'm trying not to look at that. I'm worried because he's like really like new exactly what he wanted to draw. I think this is going to be pretty accurate. Yeah. The first man on the moon. Neil Armstrong. Neil Armstrong. Neil Armstrong. All right. All right. All right. All right. Wow. Point for Neil. And apparently he had no eyes, ears. What's the deal looking through a visor and you can't see through the visor. What number? How do you know the visor wasn't up? Number one. I was going to do. Number one. It's a little bit too easy. But can I have this for a second? What happens in space that your right arm gets swollen with. That's so much golfing. That's the thing you got. That's the golfing arm.

25:54That's there's something wrong there. All of the iconic pictures of the first moon landing is not of Neil Armstrong. They're of Buzz Aldrin because Neil was on camera. Dooby. This is a quote attributed to him. And when I met him, this was consistent with what he would have said. Although I didn't re-verify it. He said whenever he feels the urge to exercise, he just lays down on the couch until that urge goes away. Neil Armstrong. Yes. Yes. I'm going to draw. You should not let us see it while you're drawing it. Why not? Because then we're kind of cheating and coming ahead of that. That's all right. All right. You can be in on the process. Oh, okay. You can like guess as I'm going. Maybe I need to do some more. I'm going to draw. Cellular manipulation. I guess. It looks like a, it looks like Gary Garcia. It's sunglasses. These look like two bow ties. Great.

26:54You have grateful dead. Oh, no. Come on. Radio waves. I got the protons and neutrons. Well, guess. I guess. Wait. This is proton neutron intercourse. This is hydrogen fusion. No. Is not hydrogen fusion? No, he was very close. When he said intercourse, he's closer than anything I just said. Yes. Yes. Yes. Which means I win. I win. I'm going to go on. Shoot. I should do something like this. Okay. It's quantum entanglement. Exactly. Entanglement is the way I describe things with my wife that we do. So it's all the same. It's just that you want to have a night of entanglement. Yeah, sure. Why not? Oh, okay. All right. Okay. Did you see it? No. No. Can you do that in a way that camera sees it so that people can participate in it? Apple core.

27:54That's. Right. That's fishin. Pull. I have no. Sell the fishin. Cellular mitosis. Focus on what this is. It's two things. It's this and it's this. Okay. And if you want, I'll take that away and I'll draw it a little straighter. Oh, it's the separating of the tectonic plates. It is asteroid belt. Oh, duh. It's a belt. Hey, what is the running of the head? That's a belt. And that's an asteroid. Oh, I see. And it's moving toward Earth. Okay. Deliver me. This is. That is. All right. Here we go.

28:54Oh, sure. Sure. And the same sort of vein. We have to act out of prompt. On a card. We. And we can't use words. And I don't think we can use props. No, you can't use props. You can't use. You can't use. Sounds either. Well, this is my office. It's an earth. Yeah. Yeah. It's from the 11th century. It's worth. No, no, no. Don't break it. Good. Nice. Nice. Nice. Making sounds. No. No. Oh, no. How's that? You can make non-word sounds. Oh, I can't. Oh, okay. Yeah. Thank you. Oh, I can't. Oh, okay. Yeah. Thank you. Oh, I can't. Oh, oh, oh. I can't. This is. Blind. Blind is a cat. Blind is a bat. Blind cat. Blind is a bat. Blind cat. Happy cat. It's the cat. There's a dead or alive. Dead or alive. That's the freaking name.

29:54That's it. My mind is blank right there. This is the best day of my life watching you do this. It's not. Death. Death. Death of a salesman. Death of a salesman. So you just kept. Daniel. What the fuck with you? I do what I do. I do what I do. I do the best imitation of a show's of cat that ever was. Oh, okay. That was yeah, too much. Oh, I didn't even have a chance on that one. Yeah. What a coincidence at the person who wrote the book. New the answer. Asteroid impact. Oh, okay. Well done. Okay. That was good. Yeah. Thank you. Oh, you look confident. Bell. Oh, yeah. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. Bell. Asteroid. That's right. Bell. It all comes back. Wow. I thought you were taking your pants off. I know.

30:54Wow. I'm glad you recognized I was reaching for my belt. Exactly. What is going on in the zone? This is a kid show. Really? Oh. Time. Clock. It's just the trick again. Time. Time. Time commitment. Running through time. Time. Travel. Time. Time speeding up. Speed of life. Speed of life. It's a late for a bus. A Con-dellation. What was this? Okay. What was this? running faster than light. Squishing thing sucking. Mahwickiu manipulation. I'm Bread's son

31:59here comes the son. SPF 50. Aliens from space. Ninja, magnetic force, force of nature. Sticky gravity attack. Supermassive black hole. Supermassive black hole. Supermassive black hole. That was the worst supermassive black hole. Okay, well let's see you do it. Monkey in space. Okay. Okay. Alien. It's floating through space.

33:01We're on a spaceship rocket ship. Zero G. Zero gravity. Space flight rocket. Space flight rocket. Astronaut. You didn't say a word. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Astronaut, that was the... Okay, okay. Okay, here we go. Swimming through space time. Swimming through this. There's the ocean of space. It's a universe. It's a cosmos.

34:01It's a giant, fabrica space time. Amoeba. Octopus. What's going on? It's a turtle all the way down. A septipus. The aliens are in arrival. Spaghetti. No, that was the worst spaghetti. No, this is spaghetti. This is spaghetti. Are you spaghetti? Okay. That's the last bit of spaghetti. You eat spaghetti like a six-year-old? Yeah. How many times do I have to that? You start as a whole being and then you...

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36:04Your favorite juicy beef burger meets an irresistibly cheesy quesadilla. Served with tortilla chips on a sizzling skillet of even more cheese. And for a limited time only, it's on Applebee's 2 for 25 menu. We dare you to resist the pull of this triple threat of cheesiness. A full-sized appetizer and two entrees, including the O.M. Cheese a Dia burger for just 25 bucks? That's even good in the neighborhood. It's okay to brag every now and then. Especially when it's over savings on designer picks from Ashley. Sleep deeper with a great deal on the 5-piece contemporary Christie Land bedroom set. And when your dinner guests compliment your course-done round dining set, don't be afraid to tell them you saved big and that it comes with convenient storage options. With savings you can be proud of. Why not boast a little? Visit Ashley.com to shop designer deals for your home. I'm Joel Cherico and I support Star Talk on Patreon. This is Star Talk with Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

37:13Mold it. So what happened? How do you play this? Each of us pick your play dough. All right. Okay. I'm going yellow. Okay. I'm going green. All right. And then we pick up hot. This is Play dough. Yeah. The old school. The edible play dough. Oh yeah. This is lunch by the way. There's literally no budget on the show. This is lunch. Kids would eat it. It has like a salty. I love the machine. So now I grab a thing. We have to mold what's on our card. Yeah. Okay. Are you ready? Do. Go. I feel like a sculptor I should be in a studio smoking cigarette. With a with a beret. With a beret and a bottle of cognac. And my lover. And we'll have some cognac. And my lover lying. Just naked for you to draw. Yes. Exactly. That's the only way I work. That's my inspiration. Oh my god. I am so going to win this.

38:13I can feel it. One. Okay. You want to start with mine? Yeah. Okay. That looks like a whale. Yeah. It looks like a whale. That is a whale. That's a whale. Oh. Hey. Is it drop the whale moment right there? What did you show the camera before you just broke the nose on the whale? Let's see. I did hold it up. There we go. And that. Okay. Hold that up. That is my whale. Okay. Look at that. That's really beautiful. Right? It's a beluga. It's in the mystic aquarium in Connecticut. His name is Albert. Solar system. Pancake. Oh. The Voyager plaque. Yeah. Well, it's Voyager. You know, you have fingernails to help you do that. That's certain. Otherwise I'd be cut. I need it a little bit. A little bit of total fingernails. I was trying to. I was also sneaking a little peek at that plaque. I'm making a shiny, I'm making a little bit of a hello. I'm making a blow hole with no fingernails.

39:13Very challenging. Okay. Ready? That's a hand. Oh. Galaxy. Milky Way. Spiral Galaxy. Spiral Galaxy. Uh. Nice. Well done. But you don't need to do that with your hand. It's a new dance move. It's a new dance move. What do you have? Vegas, magician. Yeah. And tell us about the spiral galaxy. I will. So, spiral galaxies are where most of the stars are born in the universe. Because they still have gas. Mm-hmm. They're all the galaxies that are liptical. They ran out of the gas. And so they're just stars. And why the spiral? Are they feeding off each other? It's very flat. Mm-hmm. Flatter than a flapjack. Mm-hmm. And that spin is what's called a density wave. And the gas is moving through this density wave, collapsing, making stars. Okay. And so that gives us the spiral pattern is the pattern of newly born stars. And we don't know why that is that pattern. It just is.

40:13We just know. It's rotating. And the inner parts are rotating faster than the outer parts. And then once it's fully formed, does it sort of, they move away from it? No, no, it's a static pattern. You notice like it's like rubber necking on the freeway. Do they still call it that rubber necking? Yes, yeah. Yeah, so so so you're driving and then and you slow down you don't even know your slowing down. You're looking out at the accident, whatever. But then you continue through. Right. Okay. Back at your previous speed. Correct. A helicopter view of that shows a concentration of cars where that event is. Right. But that's not a static set of cars. That the car is moving into and out of that. Okay. Okay. So it's a star is moving into and out of it. But while they're in there, you can be born, but then you keep going. And you move out. You can move out of it. Yes, yes. So it's a density wave. What's the term is that you move out of it? Because you're moving faster than the way that some do some dye and not are not able to move out of it. It'll stop moving just because you die.

41:13That's very profound. Your ballistic projectile in a galaxy. Your corpse is moving. That's as fast as your as your crib. Then I know how I want to go. I don't want to be screaming. I want to be shot up dead into the universe and float around. This is very exciting. I love that we both got this. So on the Voyager records, the golden records that were sent in 1977. This is what they looked like. But on the record, it was an actual record. And there was 55 greetings and 55 human languages. But playing in the background of all of those greetings is humpback whale songs. Because they had just discovered like five years before that humpback whale scene. And so just in case aliens could decipher whale songs better than human. Who's to say they'll first land on land? If 70% of our service is ocean, they'll land it. They'll say Earth is primarily water. Let's land there. And they land there. And if they already value brains, who's got the biggest brains in the world? Well, this is the distance and direction to pulsars in the Milky Way galaxy.

42:17Okay. That set of pulsars can only be in those distances and in those directions from our location. So this is instruction for the aliens to triangulate on where we are in our galaxy. So it's like GPS that we they will triangulate exactly where we are. We place that pin there or that pin. No, no, no, no, no, this is we're looking around. Okay. This like saying, if the Empire State building is two miles that way, and Jersey is half a mile this way, and Times Square is four blocks that way. Right. Where does that place you? Okay. Okay. That's the triangulation. Okay. So if all these pulsars are at those distances and in those directions, where does it place you? There aren't that many pulsars in the galaxy. So aliens would know this. So they would find out where we are. This is how we're turning. Well, we discovered that pulsar. We know all these pulsars. They're in our catalog. Okay. Okay. All of them. We gave our return address to aliens through which?

43:17Which treasure? Through this diagram. Okay. It seemed like a good idea at the time. But now you wouldn't give your email to stranger in the street. Who's your species? Would you? I trust aliens more than my species. Oh, yeah. I choose the alien. No. I gave my email to Wayfarer and they will not. I don't need patio furnishings. I'm good. I don't have a patio. Stop. So we have at the bottom here a representation of the solar system. Not to scale. Okay. So there's the sun over there on the left. The Mercury Venus Earth, a line coming from Earth, which is the trajectory of the spaceship that's carrying this. It passes Jupiter and Saturn. And there's Uranus Neptune and Pluto. Which should not be. At the time this plaque was conceived, Pluto was a planet. We'll come to our sector of the galaxy. They will see this solar system and say that only has eight planets.

44:17That can't possibly be where we're looking. Let's keep moving. So Pluto becomes the savior of civilization. He's assuming ill intent on the aliens. That's what I'm saying. Oh, yeah, yeah. Sorry. I'm assuming ill intent on the aliens. So there's going to be probing like in the whole thing. I think they come. We want them. We want to correct that so that they come and they know that we want to communicate with them. We want to connect with them. You don't give your email address to strangers in the street. Now Lindsey says she trusts aliens more than solar human. Big time. This is why I know what we're capable of. This is your negative view of things is what's keeping civilization from moving forward. And yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. You run the Hayden Planetarium with that dark matter mind of yours. And this is why we're going to be stuck with each other for the rest of our lives. Wow, that's hard hitting right there. Yeah, he got you. Lindsey, I've delighted to be co-authors with you on this work.

45:19Likewise. This is really fun. And Netshi, they're the ones that make it beautiful. We give it the content. And they have designers. And that's not the first time they've done this. They've done it with us before. And they do this for almost their entire catalog. And that's what distinguishes what they create from what other publishers do. A lot of people don't know this about Neil, but when he's really stressed out, he sucks his thumb. Very childish. And then this is evil meal. Hello. Welcome to start talking. Okay, now I have to now I'm going to close the show. So you got to do it while I close the show. Okay. Okay. This has been another episode of start talk, a special edition showcasing lost in space. I'm here with my co-author, Lindsey Walker. Until next time, I bid you to keep looking up.

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