Nick Reed 09.18.26 - Politics with Tom Martz

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2:03drainage lighting, you know, extensive annual lawn maintenance and so forth, they are the absolute best in the area and that's why they're on air with us. So I recommend you use them, I've used them, I tell people off air to use them. HunterHeartsCaps.com also under Nick's endorsements at KSGF.com. We've got Tom Ards in a moment now, the news. I'm Mike Landis in the Ozarks First Newsroom. Missouri State University's new performing arts center had a dedication ceremony Thursday after years of construction. The new facility on Grand Street upgraded its lobby and entrance area and now includes a black box theater and performing teaching studios on the second floor. The nearby Craig Hall also got a big update. The school says the project's for possible thanks to the largest one-time gift for a new building in the history of the university. A lot of folks are headed to Lawrence County in the coming days for the 64th annual Steam Arama event now underway. This year's festivities are set to showcase classic agriculture machinery along with vintage tractors, tools and memorabilia. We'll kick Tom Thursday and run through Sunday.

3:05The event grounds are located near Halltown off Route O and South of I-44. I'm Mike Landis, Ozarks First News. And the first alert forecast from Ozarks First Meteorologist Tom Schmidt sponsored by JNS Automotive. A. He advised three remains in effect for the entire listening area until Saturday night. Today we'll see mostly sunny skies with a high-near 95 and heat index values as high as 103. Tonight mostly clear with a low around 73. For your Saturday sunny with a high-near 96 and taking a look at Sunday, mostly sunny with a high-near 94. Hey everyone, it's Tom Martz. Took you that long to figure that out. Yeah, no. Yeah, no. Hey, before we get to today's Dayton history, guess what yesterday's Dayton history was. Let's see what was the date itself. September 17th. I don't know. It was the date of the signing of the most ignored document in the United States government's

4:09history. Oh, the US Constitution. Oh, yes. Right. Something that we completely ignore avoid and act as if it doesn't even exist any longer. It's almost as bad as the one that we have here in Missouri that no one seems to read. We were rhetorically utilized. Yes, we do. It's like I was listening to a, I was listening to Nadine at 9, some of her previous shows and she has done and she was joking about how it is that the most, the word she hears the most now within the governmental realm is that's unconstitutional. She's like, have you even read the Constitution? Yeah, you know, it's a valuable question asked and that should be asked every time any elected official on any program or commentary or commentator doesn't have to be an elected official says something's unconstitutional. They're never asked how, why explain that?

5:13You never hear them ask to explain it. I ask when I see people do that online social media wise and it's like where within the confines of the Constitution, are you finding that and blank? Yeah, there's no. I mean, when someone will ask me, I'll, you know, I'll go in and go, well, Article 3 section of this says this, which then leads me to believe that kind of like with the Denny Hoskins thing. Yeah, Article 3 section, not 49 leads me to believe that Denny Hoskins screwed up, right? When he decided not to allow the people to exercise their authority with the newly drawn congressional map because that was HB1 in a special session. So that was a piece of legislation that the people can challenge and that challenge was not allowed to continue forth because he decided, well, I'm not going to do that.

6:14I have conferred with others. Well, he conferred with people who only agree with him. And you've got to be, I think when it comes to these matters, if you're going to take a group of 10 people and go, well, what does this say and what does it mean? Get five that are on your side, get five that are on the opposing side and then kind of have that discussion to whether or not what you think it means means before you decide to make a decision. I'm going to do it this way and beat my chest that I'm a defender of the Constitution. And to the origins of your point here, people can have a context of the Constitution and still have different opinions on it. Correct. But what I think you're saying and I agree with it is that oftentimes people don't even have that. Like, that's like, okay, so where are you getting that? At least give me the basis for your belief, the basis for your opinion. You reference the Constitution, what in the Constitution gives you that belief and we

7:19may still disagree, but if you can't even do that, maybe you shouldn't use the word. I mean, that's like when we talk about how it is that they rename park benches, highways, bridges. Everything under the sun is renamed for something we create days of recognition. Is that any other? Well, under the confines of Article 1, Section 2, where you're supposed to create legislation that secures my rights only, where does renaming a park bench, a highway, a bridge, whatever come into play and what you hear is, well, you ought to be thankful that we're doing that because we're not doing other things. It's like, okay, wait a minute. That's like you're, you know, you're significant and other is out drinking all the time and saying, hey, at least I'm not home, not, you know, at least I'm not home doing it or at least I'm not cheating. You ought to be glad I'm not out there cheating on you. Now, I don't really think that's how that works. And on the flip side incidentally, when it comes to the unconstitutional portion of this, just because something is constitutional also doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be

8:21done. We hear that a lot with the flock cameras and some of these others, the argument becomes is it or isn't it? But even if it is whatever the situation is, constitutional, that doesn't mean that it still has to be done. It just means that there, it is, that it wouldn't be unconstitutional to do it, but a lot of people will, they take that sort of premise that if it is conscious, if I prove it's constitutional, that means that it should happen. I think one of the questions that we realistically need to take a to backtrack is, is under the confines of how it was that this nation was created and the messaging of the founding fathers and the people who signed that document that's ignored. Where do we think we get the right to put these cameras up at every single signal light and the other day I went over to Pop Love. And I've noticed them along Highway 60.

9:22Like if you drop an end of Amburin, there's one on each end of Amburin. Some of these cities actually have a flock camera that's just alongside the highway. Where within the confines of the, the Lockheon, Smithian concept of Thomas Aquinas, concept of government, do you think you get any authority to track the people just simply because they're accessing a public thoroughfare, which they paid for by the way. Speaking of, I'm glad you brought this up. I had gotten them and we're going to go to traffic here and continue on with Tom Arden. And their license plate readers. I hate calling them flock because then people think that flock is the only one that is. And there's like five of them. I got a message last night from one of the folks that has been instrumental when it comes to awareness of these cameras in Springfield. And he told me that the City Council is reading and boating on a resolution Monday to

10:23authorize the City Manager's office to investigate the cameras and ways to cancel the contract. He said the catches, they didn't publicize this on the agenda. So we're trying to get the word out so people have a chance to show up and provide public comment. The meeting starts at 630. People can show up before then and talk to the City Clerk to sign up if they want to speak. And so for whatever reason, the city is not really publicizing this apparently according to this communication, but they are going to be talking about this Monday City Council meeting. Now, another question would be is where within the confines of the City Charter, do you think you actually got the authority to put these things up on signal lights? Don't give me public safety crap. Well, there's nothing that says they can't. Tom Arden's with us here. It is Friday. And the Friday Road show from Scrambleers. I'm in history in 2020 Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a towering champion of women's rights, who became the court's second female justice, died at her home in Washington

11:27at age 87 of complications of pancreatic cancer. That is one office and sincerity that I'm normally not in favor of setting strict requirements of time, limitations, stuff like that. But I think there needs to be an age limitation on. Sadly, what happens, too, is you're going to lose the mindset of, as we get further and further and further away of the knowledge of what it is that the Constitution meant, meant, well, then to apply an age restriction on the Supreme Court, you're going to get those Supreme Court justices who, and we have them now, who opine in a way that they wish the Constitution said, not what it actually says. Ruth Bader Ginsburg, her death, is one of the greatest self-owns ever.

12:31And by that, I mean, she deliberately did not step down when she, this was by her own acknowledgement, I think, to family or her daughter or somebody. Somebody had talked about this. And Obama was president because she assumed Hillary Clinton was going to be the next president and wanted her replacement to be nominated by the first woman president. So she let her political beliefs override what she knew was the right thing to do. And it backfired. It backfired because if she, then, you know, Obama would have gotten to replace her. But instead Trump was able to, did she say that while she was still sitting on the bench? No, no, I think it was after she died. I want to say it was, it was a daughter. How did she speak after she died? Well, I don't think, whomever relayed that information was somebody that was an ally

13:31of hers. And I don't think that they would have made that up in order to make her look bad, you know, because it did, it was not a good look for her. Because to me, that's grounds for impeachment. If you're going to make the case that you're going to stay on the bench to make sure that the individual who appoints your successor is the first female president ever, then you're not doing what it is that you're supposed to be doing from the bench. Well, it didn't work out, but I'm one of those nut cases who think that the Constitution means something. Hey, in 1793, President George Washington laid the cornerstone of the U.S. Capitol. In 1850, Congress passed the Fugitive Slave Act, which created a force of federal commissioners charged with returning escaped slaves to their owners. The act was repealed in 1864, dooring the American Civil War.

14:32And they actually have a sign, pictured where it says caution, colored people of Boston, and in all, you are hereby respectfully cautioned and advised to avoid converse, converseing with watchmen and police officers of Boston. For since the recent order of the mayor and alterman, they are empowered to act as kidnappers and slave catchers. And they have already been actively employed in kidnapping, catching, and keeping slaves. Therefore, if you value your liberty and the welfare of the fugitives among you, shun them in every possible manner. And as so many hounds on the track of the most unfortunate of your race, keep a sharp lookout for kidnappers and then have top eye open April 24th of 1851. Black man just didn't have an opportunity, even in the North.

15:35Did he not have an opportunity? Although I think it was Wisconsin, though, was the first state that exercised the people of the state in Wisconsin, exercised their ninth and tenth amendment, right? If you want to look at it that way, to say no, we're not abiding by this fugitive slave act and we're not returning the slaves to the rightful authorities. That is exactly what the ninth and tenth amendment were for. 1861, United Nations Secretary General Dag Hammerschkeld was killed in a plane crash in Northern Rhodesia, which is now called what? Zambia. 1970, rock star Jimmy Hendrix died in London at age 27. 1975 newspaper, Harris Patty Hearst was captured by the FBI in San Francisco 19 months after

16:35being kidnapped by this symphony and liberation army. And in 2014, one of the stupidest things I've ever heard of in my life. Well, you did say one of one of yesterday voters in Scotland rejected independence, opting to remain part of the United Kingdom in a historic referendum. But long and hard for that vote to say, never mind. Like, what kind of idiot? Well, I'm sure they were told all of these bad things that will happen. You'll lose the protection of this, you'll lose this and that. That's usually what gets voters. You start telling them what government benefits that they will lose. Well, perhaps they may have looked back on the Civil War and said, well, you know, Britain has a bigger army than we do. We could get, they could run us roughshod and then we'll be slaves to Britain.

17:37So let's do this the democratic way. Yeah, I don't know. I wasn't there. I wouldn't either. I didn't even know what was happening. I would have never known it was happening if it wasn't for today's date in history. How much time we have? Well, it depends on how we want to time this out. I mean, we've got a couple of minutes. Okay. The legislative committee finished meeting on Wednesday. Actually, no, we haven't. We got not next Wednesday, but the following Wednesday we're going to get together. We're going to discuss the ballot amendments and we're also going to discuss the one proposition that will be popping up on the ballot due to the referendum of the mapping. Well, let me ask you this. What is it you're evaluating on the amendments? Because I've always thought this is potentially tricky.

18:39How do you evaluate the constitutionality of something that in and of itself, if it passes is constitutional? Well, there are several within the legislative committee that want to hear other ideas of what people think on the different amendments. So we just kind of get together. Oh, so it's not. It's we're not evaluating that. Okay, got to go. We just kind of discuss the dynamics. Right. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Because I see on social media, the big one's going to be a amendment three. And you've got you've got a whole host of people who for a lack of a better term. And the only way I can think of to say it, they go on social media and proclaim about how pro life they are. But we need to replace the current Article 1 section 36, which allows abortion. Replace it with another Article 1 section 36, which allows abortion. And that's the pro life position. It's okay. Wait a minute. That comprehension to me doesn't fly.

19:41And maybe it's my way of thinking. But if you're going to say your pro life, then your pro life, no matter what the, no matter how the the infant was conceived. But I think what they do is they try to proclaim their pro life, but they make these exemptions. To say, well, because we know a certain amount of them are going to occur, we're going to try to restrict as many as we can. Right. Save as many as possible. Yeah. But they also at the same time will make the case. Well, if if we pass this new amendment three, we'll stop 98% of all abortions. No, you won't. It's like there are laws on the book that prevent murder. How many murders does that law actually prevent? Because if somebody is going to kill something, they're going to kill something no matter what. So whether it's into Constitution, whether it's in the Bible, whether it's in state law,

20:45you can write all these things all you want. Well, yeah, I suppose the more accurate description would be in their estimate, it would prevent what otherwise would be 98% of legal abortions. It would that would be more specific, I guess, or more accurate. Yeah, I really need to stop my own. I haven't seen. Yeah. I haven't seen a lot of ads for it, but I haven't seen, are there many against it? Have you seen? Oh, there's eights. And I'm not talking blue either. I'm talking people who are on the Republican side of the aisle. And I'm just like when I see something on television, I don't watch a lot of traditional television, but when I have what I've seen are the pro amendment three, I just didn't notice. And why is asking me because I haven't gotten a real good evaluation of what's running? See, I've got there are a lot like a signal telegram, all these different various other

21:50social media things. You also see them on Facebook. Generally you've got several people who will come out and discuss how it is that we need to put amendment three into the into the Constitution. There's one specific Facebook group. I think it's called conservatives of Missouri, I believe, if I'm not mistaken, that the woman who heads up this group or the woman who actually posted this group just basically told people that we need to pass amendment three. And if you're opposed to it, just shut the F up and don't respond to anything in here because I'm not buying your lives. And as she made the case that it's been in the Missouri Constitution since the Missouri Constitution has been existent, which then allowed me to go in there and go really. This is my territory now. I will you please post the relevant section from the 1821, the 1865 and the 1875 State Constitution

22:58of Missouri where it discusses your term abortion. I think one of the dangerous things too is miscarriages and abortions now kind of carry the same similarities in terms of legislative ease, which is completely counter optic. I know. They like to blend these words together, kind of like we no longer mutilate children, we trans them. No, you mutilate them. Well, I default to telling people to go to kschf.com and listen to the podcast discussion between Darren Chandler and Mike Moon because these are two intelligent people that I firmly believe are coming from their positions in an honest way that are able to sit down with Sarah and each give their perspective as to why it is they feel the way they do and they're

24:00on opposite ends of it. And so that for those of you that it's it is, there's a lot it's confusing and particularly if you're pro-life on this particular issue and where is it that that is that in the election section, the mic. It's in the election section and it's also in my podcast section. Now, it doesn't mean that you're going to necessarily listen to it and go, oh, okay, now I know exactly where I fall. You know, it may not do that for you, but I think that that is the best sort of if you will back and forth in terms of people, the people that are involved and they're honest in their integrity in terms of this is what I genuinely feel. And so that's I recommend that's a great place to get information. But you don't benefit anybody if the if your comment to them is, well, you're you're on team blue if you're voting no, you're you're yeah, and what it it's counterproductive also for the word I was a little.

25:01Because I think what happens is they that the desire is to make the recipient of that messaging feel like, oh gosh, well, I don't want to be on team blue. So I'd better vote the way they're saying, but it doesn't that's not how that's not what happens. The human reaction to that is you're you know, it's a rejection. And so you are more likely to push someone away from you, your perspective than to gain people that way. I mean, I was told I was a liberal in a communist because I opposed a amendment for an amendment five. Well, I really did oppose amendment five, but a amendment for to me was a big one because you are attempting to remove the people's right to redress their grievances with their government. To me, that's a free speech issue. Well, it I'm a free speech absolutist. When here's the thing too, someone can be wrong and not be a communist. You know, that's I think Bishop Davidson. He that was one of the things that he talked about a lot is that listen, particularly I'm

26:06sure it was a amendment five. You may disagree and think we're totally wrong, but our motives aren't what oftentimes people claim they are. You know, that mode, oh, we're really doing this in order to secretly raise taxes and he's like, listen, if you want to think we're wrong and this is wrong, that's fine, but I can promise you, you know, attacking the motives that you're off the mark here. And yeah, somebody can be completely wrong and that doesn't necessarily mean they're a communist. Well, you know, social media has given that availability of being able to everybody now has they can verbalize what it is. Of course. And it goes out to the masses where before you could verbalize it and it only went to your inner circle. And now because of the vastness, no matter how much of a minority your perspective is, which doesn't mean you're wrong, but you can feel as if everyone's on your side because there will be people that find it and they validate you.

27:09And so it's part of the reason everyone feels that, you know, so many people are on their side is because of that. Well, even the four social media, I knew I was in the middle of the community. You win or I still know it. Tom arts with this Friday road show from scrambleers. I'm Nick Reed. He did advisory remains an effect for the entire listening area until Saturday night. Today we'll see mostly sunny skies with a high near 95 and heat index values as high as 103 tonight, mostly clear with a low around 73, four year Saturday, sunny with a high near 96 and four Sunday, mostly sunny with a high near 94. Tom arts with us here this morning at scramble in alphabetical order. The five finalists in the Senate are yes, this is for the lock and lock and lock. The most constitutionally voting members. We call this the constitutional integrity assessment. Oh, oh, I like it.

28:12So we have Jill Carter. She represents the 30 second senatorial district, Jasper Newton County. We have Mary Elizabeth Coleman. She represents the 22nd district. She's got a really weirdly shaped. Is that also Southwestern? No, it's Arnold Herkelem over there along I 55, but most of her district actually extends to the west instead of up and down. Got it. Arnold Arnold and Herkelem and whatever. I don't think they're going to peeverly. No, it's higher up higher up than that. OK, I don't know what county Arnold is in. We have Paddy Lewis, the seventh congressional district. She also has with three cows on a row. A really yes, she also has a really weird district because hers goes from the river to the river on the west side of Kansas City. OK, so she's got like this as crescent moon type thing that she represents up there.

29:18We have good job ladies. Good job ladies. Yeah, no doubt. Mike Moon, 29th senatorial district. No, it's very nice. McDonald's, Barry Christian and Lawrence County. And from the 11th senatorial district is Joe Nicola. He's got a really weird shape district too, but Blue Summit is the largest city in his senatorial district. Where is that? I know, it's basically north. OK. And these five were the same five from last year. Really? Yeah. OK. Now in the house, we also have almost the same five from last year as well. So representing the second house district, Bethany is the largest city up there, but that's also the Cameron School District thing. Remember, we've talked about that. That's her area. All right. That's Mazi Christensen from the 154th, which is Willow Springs.

30:22OK. When you head out towards West Plains, you'll see her signs on the side of the highway. This is where Lisa Dernel. This is home of the latest American Idol winner, right? Willow Springs. Have no idea. Yeah. Oh, cool. Representing the Belton area, the 56th state represented district, a former Loch Nessmith granite plaque winner, Michael Davis, representing the Donovan area, which is the 153rd state representative district is Keith Elliott, and representing the 145th state representative district, which is the St. Genevieve area, is last year's Loch Nessmith winner, Bryant Wolfon. Well, I was hoping I saw him. And if his name doesn't get mentioned, so it's starting to get a little nervous. I said an alphabetical word. Oh, well, that's OK. That's right. He's our guy when it comes to a constitutionally minded over there in the assembly.

31:25Yeah, he's not well liked. And this year, this year, if you go to ledgyscore.com, we were a lot harder on the pieces of legislation. Because once we figured out that they weren't repealing and replacing, I mean, we've been doing the same thing year after year after year. But then somebody brought up the fact that, wait a minute, when you repeal something, you need to draw lines through it, like on the, when they bring it forth. And Mike and I had this conversation. So I looked at his safe act from last year. And I had asked him, I said, what part of revised statute is like 208152? Are you repealing? Because he didn't. They amended it. Or they modified a section of it. They didn't actually repeal and replace. For some reason, up in Jefferson City, they think because they bring a bill forward to make changes to it that they're repealing and replacing. But that's not the way that works. So if you go to ledgyscore.com and you start looking at our spreadsheet, you know, it

32:28manners a lot of red here because we rejected these this year where we did not reject them last year because we were actually just looking at the specific title. But I was informed of a court case that was done in Missouri, which they did start looking at the manner in which they brought bills forth. And the fact that they weren't repealing anything in that piece of legislation had the judges going, oh, wait a minute, we need to. Right. So those are your top five in the house. Those are your top five in the Senate. And probably at the end of October, we will announce who it is that ends up winning a marble day porcelain plaque. You said, when? When is that again? In October. In November. Or whenever I feel like it. Are you going to join us?

33:29I know you did last year when we're at Farm Fest. Oh, cool. Is that this weekend? No, no, no, no. It's the, it's the first weekend in October. Oh, yeah, we'll be out there. Well, isn't. I think that's not this or the next with the following, I believe. Yeah, because yeah, because we were just talking. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah, but see, I've got Wednesday in my head because I'm talking the finalist. So we meet on Wednesday. So I'm trying to deduct Wednesday, Wednesday, Wednesday. But you're right. First October first. But and by the way, they still have grant closed. So you can't go underneath the I-44 up there. Oh, that'll be considered. So you got it deferred. Hopefully that'll be our way. Does that look like it'll be opened by Farm Fest? That was far too far. Oh boy. But they have national open. OK. And they have Broadway open. OK. And they got, of course, they got Kansas Expressway open. And I'm really liking the renderings of the new Kansas Expressway I-44 deal. All right. With the flyover ramp.

34:29Yeah, yeah. And then instead of crossing over right there at lows, you got to go down that little frontage road. And then they've got like a roundabout down there. And then you come under 13 and they'll have a roundabout. So you can get up the lows. Speaking of. But I wish they would find a contractor that when they actually fix the road, that it's not rougher than the section that they had just replaced. Speaking of infrastructure, did they ever open the Jefferson footbridge for foot traffic? Because remember, they were supposed to have the big grand opening of it. But then it wasn't ready. And so they just sort of did a pretend grand opening. I don't know. They ticked me off when they wouldn't put catapults on both sides to launch people across. You know why? Because they're very limited in their creativity. That's why. That would have drawn revenue. I mean, literally, if you have netting on both sides and you've got,

35:31yeah, you've got the availability of catapoting people across, landing in the net, then getting on the other side, you get on the go the other way. Tell you what, though, if I were to be in a revenue chamber, if I were a house very close to that netting, I'd be a little nervous. Tom Arntz with us continuing the Friday road show from scrambleers. Can we go off track a little bit? I didn't even know we were on one. So we were on the track of the Jefferson footbridge, which seems to be a conundrum here in the city of Springfield. I mean, it's just waste of money actually. But I already, but I want to bring forth one of the things that we've talked about. Several times. And we just kind of mentioned it with Massey Christianson being a finalist for the lock of Smith award. But like that name, he's Gilbert, one of the gentlemen who we've discussed before, who the school board decided he can no longer attend public meetings. He was not allowed at gymnasiums. He was, he was prohibited from being at any event that the school was at.

36:37So if they happen to be at McDonald's and he wanted to go eat at that McDonald's, he would be in violation of whatever order it is. And was it, yeah, and wasn't there reasoning? He was intimidating them because he was asking questions. Yeah, pretty much that's the way it works. But he wrote something today, or maybe it was yesterday, it says, I would like to thank the Cameron Citizens Observer and all the members of this community forum who told me repeat it, repeat it. Yeah, that word. If you truly think the Cameron School District violated your first and 14th Amendment rights, get a lawyer. I don't think you should have to get a freaking lawyer. I know. To prove that the government by, it's pretty self evident. You know that they should have to get a lawyer. I took your advice and I am glad I did because it turns out there was clearly established case law. Rights don't need case law, but okay, I'll continue. That prohibit the school from doing the very thing I complained about.

37:41I will once again be attending school board meetings in person. I will have my camera and microphone with me to record those meetings. And I will once again start sharing those meetings with you here in this forum. Thank you. You were right. And so was I. The people shall not be deprived or abridged of their right to speak to right or to publish their sentiments and the freedom of the press as one of the great boar words of liberty shall be invincible. James Madison, 1789. Now you know what he should do is run for school board. He did run for school board. Oh, did he run? Okay. And the funny thing is, is that's a dominated red area up there. Oh, yeah. Don't give me this crap. It's full of liberals. It's you, you have the available. We need another party actually because the two parties that supposedly we have have so merged together that occasionally you'll get one or two individuals who don't align completely

38:46with that tyrannical authoritarian mindset. Yesterday it was, yeah, Alan Dershowitz. We had him on. He's got a new book out. He was a long time Democrat liberal activist and he's now got a book. I think it was why I left the Democrat party and why you should too. And I full blown vote Republican. And his final message was, and of course he's like the party. At this point, what it once upon a time that's dead. There's no winning it back. I used to believe, okay, we just need to get it back away from the extremists, but it is clear it is run by anti-Semitic extremists. And so his messages vote Republican, but it is for the purpose of making the Republican party more centrist. So in other words, turn it to what the Democrat party used to be. And I thought was, well, then what about us? Wait a minute. The traditional, I quote, Republican, smaller government, lower, we've kind of already lost our party.

39:46We don't have a new party to jump to and to alter. Allowing durshowitz, my parting shot to him will be the fact that his allegiances are not with the United States. They're not with the Republican party. They're not with the Democrat party. They are completely for another nation on another continent and the heck with what the United States wants. Tom Arts with us. More in just moments from the Friday Road Show here at Scrambleers Island. I mean, are ripped on Alan durshowitz because of his allegiance to a foreign country. You're not talking about a country that rhymes with Smith's real or your business. No, I'm not talking about a country that has one item, one, their flag and it's two colors. Oh, I guess I guess you could call the straight lines another item, but well, gosh, his absolute allegiance is to

40:48that side of the ocean and not this side of the ocean. You know, it's interesting the same way with Levin and Shapiro. It's interesting some of these some of these people and I guess he's no longer one of them because he did just leave the Democrat party. But there are these Democrats. I would cite Harold Ford Jr. as an example who is former Democrat member of Congress. He's on the five quite often and the thing he says, I'm like, why are you even a Democrat at this point? I mean, literally because he calls him out talks about the going in the wrong direction. We need to do this. He is literally one of his themes that I hear him note over and over again. What Democrats need to propose is no income tax for people making under I think 75 individuals making an answer. And I'm thinking to myself, why I'm not saying you have to be a Republican, but what on earth makes you a Democrat at this point? And of course, there are a lot of that can also apply to Republicans, but it's just

41:51so it's a weird thing. I don't know. It's odd. It's people that will continue to give allegiance to and say, oh, put this party in power while at the same time saying what they're doing is wrong. Yeah, but you also have that mindset that, well, why aren't you running as a Republican? Why aren't you running as a Democrat? I mean, the fact of the matter is, we've tied ourselves into two political parties that have merged and we need another actual political party. And I don't think people like the, well, Federman, is he going to switch Republican, but he's not a Republican. No, it's not. And that's fine, but that's, you know, to your point, kind of given just these two choices, I guess he could always go independent, which maybe, well, Tom Arsch thinks you're a fantastic weekend news and 60 seconds. Saturday, September 26, two of combat sports' most dangerous strikers collide, Bear Knuckle. Liverpool's own down in the Gorilla Tilt goes to war with Cuban powerhouse, Yoel Sondra of Da Vramero. Plus, the Bear Knuckle middleweight championship of the world is on the line when the rating

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