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Nick's NFL team tier list

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Be carpenter Ohio State linebacker 971 the fan in Columbus coming up in just about 15 minutes time More nonsense in the way are on the way in the six o'clock hour as well, but speaking of nonsense I did my my NFL team tears this year and as you pointed out Uh, I got the whole AI slop treatment on this bad boy. I liked it. Hey, this is nice. This is the good graphic I think you did a nice job with this. Well, I like that compliment. So the point with this is though. I think sometimes are Every team every opinion one goal you know that what that's what that's what AI did I know I know I know I I knew I did I knew that I don't have that level of detail extra flair that really I was like I need to give you It isn't me. I mean, AI really is incredible, but it is amazing how It it's go to a graphic it is now pretty solid

So my my thing with tears is sometimes we get really really rigid with them or in the case of like Eric Edhoyne we talked about yesterday. He has one quarter of the NFL tanking. That's not possible Right, it's a lot of teams. That's a lot of teams tanking. I mean in the NBA. It's definitely possible We watched it last year, but in the NFL it's not something we typically see nor should we But just because the parity level in the NFL is different So my teams I'll go through my tears real quick the just awful tier Miami Arizona, New York and Tennessee I think three of those teams are trying to lose and the other one is coached by Robert Sala Will not meet expectations, which means they'll probably have a top 10 pick The Falcons Colts Saints commanders or giants. I think the commanders could be in the middle of back of the NFL Okay, I just don't think they're going back to the playoffs I think the giants are gonna end up doubling their win total from last year and they only had four last year So here we are and then one of the more I will say robust definitions meaning it's not just about are you gonna be good or bad?

It's gonna be how will you meet expectations or not is will will you exceed expectations? And that's the Browns Raiders and Vikings. I don't want to go through all 32 teams Because that's gonna be laborious for the listeners there But when you look across here. What do you what do you think I got most right? What do you think I most wrong? Well, I do want to talk about your will exceed expectations for a second I don't I don't know how the Raiders end up exceeding expectations Not what Kirk does is a quarterback And maybe it's got to be the Mendoza part of that in the back half. Oh, no, really not what I want to nitpick Oh, no, it's it so that I think Vegas hands them at a five and a half win team I can't remember because I did check all their over today They might even before and I thought to myself if they get to seven wins this year and half of those come with Fernando I think that's a really nice season Especially if Kirk cousins just gives you so basically they're doing the Browns theory Of Kirk gives you the best chance to win early and then this will help Fernando be better later. Okay That's actually plausible with Kirk cousins and you know the number one pick. I know how you got there with the Vikings

And I tend to agree and I think it what's interesting about it and we've talked to hungry enough We've talked a decent amount of the Vikings because the Vikings are the one outlier from last year and the idea that you could have an Extraordinary defense, but it's just a really bad offense and still end up with nine wins Now they won the last five games of the season and again their defense was extraordinary They were second in EPA for pass Defensively they were third and total EPA on the season last year seventh and scoring defense like they were incredible And a lot of numbers that matter basically they're incredible in every area Minus offensive football and they were just atrocious now they still had a run game that was outstanding 1800 total yards Between Aaron Jones and that old crew like they were able to do stuff on the ground But like that one of the games they won in the final five they went five in onic they had three total passing yards Like they are they are I think they're an outlier But they are the one you need to and keep pointing to for why you have belief in the Browns can overcome having a bad offensive team right Panthers too by the way the panthers are also dog bleep offensively eight and a half wins Is the expectation for the Vikings and if they had nine last year and the Pythagorean for them was

Eight and a half oddly enough. They should be able to meet that Uh, well that what I mean is that they will succeed expectations. I think I agree That's one of the ones like like bullseye I agree with you on that one I think if they have anything now maybe their defense comes back down to earth a little bit But if their defense is anything close to what it was last year with Kevin O'Connell Justin Jefferson And I don't know maybe Kymer Murray just sucks But I got I got I got I got a feeling you're going to be right about that I have a hard time thinking that Kyler's just going to be bad. I do but I think people I think people took him to a different level that he never attained And then they forgotten no, he's a competent NFL quarterback And you give him Justin Jefferson Jordan Addison TJ Hawkinson a okay offensive line and some Running oh and by the way that defense That's Okay, just wouldn't surprise me if Kyler had them in the you know the second round of the playoffs this next year Just because he didn't screw it up right the NFC North still really tough though. I think we have to acknowledge that But that's what made the Lions so hard to kind of pick here Well, I saw your buddy Jim Costa getting at you here. Yeah, and the playoffs are bus category

I think we need to discuss I also want to discuss the playoffs winner bus category Because I think that's really interesting too and the playoffs are bus category I agree the Packers at this point need to win playoff games You have a better feel on Carolina than I ever will I don't get the perception They need to win a playoff or go to the playoffs for it to be Anything great, but it's just because I don't believe in the Panthers the same way would you have a better I think if they go seven and ten Bryce Young's not the the starting quarterback next year. Okay, that's fair I the 100% fair Seahawks I think sea ox or playoff winner bus not just playoffs are bus so maybe I'd bump them up to the playoffs category I think basically they just want a super bowl I have a lot of the same expectations. I have on them from last year to this year I think once you win a super bowl the next year. It's just make the playoffs anything you you're still kind of basking in the glow Tampa I would also move in the playoff winner bus category if the bus if the bus component of this is if you don't win a playoff game You might have to get rid of your quarterback I think if they don't win a playoff game just make into the playoffs in that wretch division Which they did for four out of the last five years. I don't think that's good enough for them

I think they love Baker and I don't think so I think I think they love Baker enough. I know that they're in a contract stalemate I think of Baker just get some back to the playoffs and you can look at this and go We're four games above 500 with four playoff trips and four years as Baker as a starter I think that's going to be enough Patriots fans should be playoff winner bus But I understand putting them in playoffs or bus because that is such a sad sack team right now Yeah, and the idea that they're so comfortable with just not performing I've never seen an NFL team that just seems sad All the history that they have obviously I've never seen a team to be so comfortable with wow. We really outperformed expectations last year This will be our comeback down to earth season Yeah, and listen, I'd better sing if you're a pagery fan. I think it was I'm actually excited to kind of see Drake more a Drake May and AJ Brown together But I didn't Drake May is going to have an excellent season. You know, the only reason he was second in MVP last year I think he's going to be excellent again this year. There's a lot of other reasons why I don't wait Don't expect a huge regression from New England one. I think Drake may is a real deal and two it's rabble I do think rabble is a legitimate great coach a legitimate great great coach

And this is the best quarterback he's ever had as the head coach by far I like your super baller bus category now. Let's get to the playoff winner bust chargers have to they've never wanted a playoff game with harbor You bring McDaniel in there. You have to win a playoff game this year But your quarterback isn't changing your head coaches and changing so I don't know I don't know if the bus component really could really applies when nothing's gonna change If they don't achieve what they want to but they need to start winning playoff games with harbor There's an acknowledgement there. They need to start winning playoff games Dallas. I don't know is ever in a situation where it's playoff winner bust But I think it's important because that daxx getting older And I don't think shot and hymners as solid footing as people think daxx got two career playoff wins in general So i daxx doesn't win playoff games and Jerry jones seems very content with the idea that he's gonna put up big numbers The offense is gonna be good, but they don't recognize there's no demand much The bears are very similar to the Patriots in my opinion and the idea that the fan base is just kind of settled for Well, there's gonna be regression and it's gonna kick us in the ass

And I think that's awful if you've been johnson and cala Williams together you should be playoff winner bust the idea that most their fan base isn't Embarrassing and the steers are interesting Because the steers I don't think they have to win a playoff game But what we do know is that Aaron Rogers no longer the quarterback after this year regardless So is this more tied to mic McCarthy keeping his job? I think this is for them for firing tommelin you need to win a playoff game because that's the whole point You want this like vengeance for tommelin now Okay, if you guys want to check out the the full tiers at niquelson says on social media when we come back Bobby Carpenter in five minutes on 92 through the fan

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