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Press Pass | Campanile & Udinski on Readiness for Patriots, Executing on All Phases

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I know last week you talked about the rotation at cornerback. But could you break down sort of what the philosophy behind that is? Yeah, like I said last week, we feel like we had a bunch of good players there. You know, guys that do a good job and have worked their tail off. We feel good about all those guys. So keeping them fresh and rotating them all, that's kind of been the philosophy behind it. Is there a channel on which it's like in particular with Travis? Because he didn't play much last year to sort of get him more reps. Like what's the balance there between rotating and also helping you? Yeah, I think that's always a challenge to a degree. You know, on the more reps obviously you get the better you're going to be. So I think that's time goes. Always looking at those things. Every game's a little bit different. You know, and your, those conversations always being had every game. It can change week to week. But yeah, that's always a challenge. The way that Bronco's often kind of attacked with some of the quick sets, and throws and reset the bucket. How can you impact the quarterback a little bit when they're doing that stuff to kind of negate some of the rough?

Yeah, I think I got to do a better job. First and foremost, you know, you go back and you look at that, I think probably just to loosen some situations. Not probably. I think we were to loosen some situations. And ultimately, you know, that's, that's on me. I got to do a better job with that. We have mentioned that. But there's a lot of maybe too much volume in the plan against Denver. Did you feel that way in order with it just right? Yeah, I think you're always looking at that every game. Obviously, when you don't get the result, do you want you go back and you look at it and say, Hey, if there, if there was any time you have a miscommunication or we have a i violation or something like that, I always look at that and you got to look inward first. And that's possibly the, you know, the issue having too much volume in the game plan. And pairing it down at times has been good for us, you know, in the past. That's something you're always looking at. But yeah, coming out of that game, I think that's, I would, I would agree with coaches sentiment. How do you practice against your yesterday? I thought we had a great practice yesterday. I thought a bunch of guys in particular had a really good practice.

You know, they jumped out to me. I thought Travis had a great practice. He's one of those guys yesterday. So yeah, I was pleased with our practice, our effort seemed like there's a little bit of anger out there, which is always a good thing. You know, football is a game of a lot of emotions and Matt is usually a good one. When you look at that, Adrian, it's often, what do you see? I see a really good unit. I see a really athletic quarterback who's super accurate, super accurate and deep ball. It's, it's honestly, it's been a great system for 20-something odd years. You know, and I think Coach McDaniel's done a unbelievable job in his career, you know, everywhere he's been. But certainly in New England, of making you be sound defensively. You know, and he has a great eye for seeing what he can take advantage of. And I think they've done a great job of that. Certainly last year, the whole season and this year starting out. What kind of challenges have you been in team that's two runner backs? They've probably done a serious one. Yeah. And they're both great players, a little bit different.

But that's a challenge, you know, getting in there. And I think Steven's in as a physical runner. I think they're both physical runners. But yeah, that's definitely a challenge because you got some guys that can break it. You know, if you don't get your eyes right, you're not playing with gap integrity. There's not a team tackling mentality. Those things are going to show up and they're going to get you it. And they've gotten people that way. You know, since Josh has been back there, I think they've done a good job getting those guys touches. Because they're guys that can get the ball down the field for them. No, the violence played really well for you guys since you got there. Was someday one of his best games that you think he's had? Yeah, he actually was one of the guys I felt like played really, really well the other day. And like everybody, there's things you want to improve. But I thought he was very consistent. He's been really good for us. He's a team leader for us in my opinion. And certainly a guy on our side of the ball that has done a really good job. And you know, been practicing his ass off and he's just getting better and better. You obviously got to see Romeo dobs on the practice field.

Yeah, green bag, good bench. What type of challenge does he present now that you're on the other side of that? Yeah, Romeo can really run. He's a deep threat type of guy. And he's in my opinion a very, very good route runner, especially at the top of the route. He's got great body control and really good stop start. So that's the biggest challenge with a guy like that. You're going to have to play with great eye discipline on the line of scrimmaging in the break area when you're in man-to-man situations against him. Because he really is. He does all those things well. Did it feel like your DBs are responding to? Yeah, I think everybody was responding. I've responded a certain way. The UNA has responded a certain way. Nobody's happy about it. I think everybody's got a level of pissed off in here, which is a good thing. It's just me being honest. And you got to practice that way. There's only one way to fix anything. It's get back to work. It's not get sad.

It's get back to work. You can have a little bit of anger about the result. But the reality is you've got to move on and you've got to focus on what can get you better and get you the result that you're looking for. And that's practice and the way that you practice. Doing things intentionally, doing things with detail. And just being a maniac about it every day. That's the only way I know that's the only way these guys know it. And we have to respond that way. We have to. You talked about tricks. Athleticism, energy, and every break of the bucket. Does it help you that the two perfects of play previously also have those same traits and move a little bit? Yeah, two other elusive guys. But this game, obviously every game is a little bit different. But he certainly presents a challenge. He's got an unbelievable job with his legs. And his arm, but he's been able to extend plays and hurt people in big games getting out of the pocket. So that's definitely a challenge this week for us. What was this old pro-up right tackle for that? How does he use that experience as an image? Yeah, he's, I mean, I've coached against him a few times in the past.

I just think he's a really good player. They got a bunch of good guys in the front, you know. Very tuckers and other guys with the jets too when I was in Miami. So I think they've got some physical guys. And Moses definitely brings that to their offensive line. He's got a certain physicality that they benefit from. In Troll, how did another solid game? How has his kind of track been since the season started? Yeah, he's done a really good job. Overall, I felt like even in the last game, he did a good job. He's a guy you can rely on to set the tone physically for the defense. And that's one thing that I feel like he's done over the first two games. He's looking at improve. He's trying to do extra. And I think all of our teammates, all of his teammates see that. And that's been a good thing for our defense. All right. Another one of those guys has some plates and good ball for you. Yeah, Dennis, the other day, I thought he had a pretty good game overall. You know, he's a guy that's always going to give you a constant effort.

And we got a bunch of effort at it. Dennis the other day. And you know, I was talking to him. I mean, everybody wants to get a little bit better and get the product better and get the result that we want. So he's back to work. But I appreciate his effort. I thought he did a good job the other day too. Early in practice, yesterday, he does counter-dip. I don't know that exact name of it, but it was like a special team. Certainly. Should I notice that Ethan's does it a lot? What was kind of the purpose of having offensive guys mix in with some of those other guys? Yeah, that's just really a fundamental thing. And Coach Cohen, that's one of the things he believes. And I think is something that has helped us as a team. You know, look, both sides are among the special teams. So for the offensive players, it's important that they have, you know, they're being coached on some of that stuff also. And I think it gives us a chance to coach those guys also. And just to work on some of the fundamental things and block destruction and tackling for those guys,

we're offensive players that play special teams for us, you know, and help us win games. I don't think he can ever do enough of that stuff. You know, I know Coach believes that too. So I honestly, I enjoyed that part of the practice. That's a cool thing. We get a chance to work with them that way. And I think it's beneficial for those guys to them. Is that something that you've mastered in your experience? Like in different places, have you had like head coaches say, yeah, I need you to go get hands on with the offensive guys on special teams? It is kind of unique. I want to say my first two years in Miami, we had something a little bit similar. When flow was there, we did something similar where there was a little bit of carry over, you know, for special teams. But, you know, I know Liam really values all of that. You know, he's got an eye on all that stuff. And that was kind of his idea. He wanted to make sure that we're all working with the guys hands on talking about fundamentals, tackling and block destruction. And there is a lot to it, you know, so there's a lot to coach and there's a lot to learn from for those guys.

And I think it's really good to get a chance to work with some of our defensive coaches as well. When you look back at the team, just what sort of went wrong, I guess, during the difficult game? I think there's a lot of things that we can do better as coaches. And I know the players feel the same way too. Ultimately, it comes down to our execution. I think as coaches, we're always going to go back and look at the things we did in the plan and say, how could we have built plays differently? How could we have packaged formations or motions differently to try to put guys in a better position to be successful? Or maybe what was it a personnel issue where we played in 12 personnel or 11 personnel or three tight ends on the field and we should have been in other personnel? So we examine all of it. I think that as a coaching staff, I know for me personally, at least there are certain things that we did that I would have loved to have maybe tweaked now looking back. And things that we didn't get to that I would have loved to have gotten to or different ways even when we deployed the plan, trying to get into a rhythm and get things going. But that tends to happen. You play a good defense. You don't fully get the plan executed as you envision, maybe throughout the week.

So I know there's a lot of things as coaches myself personally that I would love to have gone back and say, man, I wish this guy was in a better position to be successful. And then ultimately as an offense collectively, it really just came down to our execution on all the different phases of the game, whether it was a couple of third downs, our critical, the red zone, trying to get touchdowns every time we get down there or even early in drives on first down to many second and long situations for us. The issues in past protection, was it just identifying or was it good on good, somebody's got to win? I think it was a combination of things. That's probably one of the things that I'd look back on and say, man, could I put those guys in a better spot to be successful? Because we try to stay aggressive even in the protection game. We want to feel like we're attacking defenses. And there are certain elements of that where you try to design a protection to attack what the defense does from a rush standpoint. Who are their premier rushers? What are their best rush packages? And what is their rush plan? And I think looking back at it, you see that they did an excellent job deploying that plan and their guys made plays in some of those early downs earlier in the game.

And I think having a plan going into that where I put the guys in better position to be successful would have helped those guys out. It was encouraging to see them make the adjustments and settle in there later in the game. And even a couple plays, you saw the long throw down the parker that got us down to the one yard line. That was phenomenal protection. So they had their reps of showing the ability to do it. It was just they consist an execution early and maybe some things that I look at that would have loved to adjust it from the way we attacked them from a protection standpoint that I think would have helped us. Did the parker make some adjustments and coverage throughout the game that made it a little difficult to execute later on? They certainly tweak things throughout the game. I think they also tweak things to our personnel from a game plan standpoint that presented challenges for us the way they treated our different receivers and the way they kind of treated our route distributions in different situations, whether it was third down, being treated different than first down in a 12 percent when we have two tight ends on the field being treated then when we have one tight end on the field. Now those were things that we had a plan for and anticipated that, but I think they did a great job of executing that plan and made it challenging for us.

And it's something that is great opportunity for our guys to learn from seeing some of those different coverages whether they're playing cloud or cover two to a certain side or whether they're adjusting their coverages on the run. You probably know and recognize we use a lot of shift in motion and they were able to change their coverages based on our formations as we're motioning and shifting. That's a challenge to them and a credit to them, but it's something that we got to do a better job of having the plan and having the answers as we continue to shift in motion to still be able to execute places they get in and out of their coverages. I think in the run game, the runs probably speak for themselves the yards after contact being able to find the reads. I think his reads themselves have improved. You see it in some of the wide zone and some of those toss plays where he's getting out on the edge. It highlights his speed and his ability to find those creases or navigate those blocks at the second and third levels, whether it's on a corner or on a safety. And I think in the protection game, we haven't got to feature him quite as much as we would like to in the route game as a past catcher, but you see him more out there in the protection game and impass in situations feel really comfortable with him out there picking up blitzes and recognizing the different pressures.

I mentioned that teams like Denver teams like New England bring. So I think the growth has been pretty consistent in all areas. It just doesn't always show up on Sunday. Like what I've loved to have seen a couple more targets to this point in week two, but like I mentioned when you don't kind of get in a rhythm, you limit some of those opportunities. But really pleased with the way those guys that room collectively have attacked the growth as complete backs. It's kind of like the opposite of what I talked about for us with the lack of X you should they do a phenomenal job of executing that scheme, whether it's the man coverage of zone coverage is they can mix and match a bunch of different things that they do to you. They have a bunch of different fronts and pressure presentations. They're not afraid to attack you from a pressure standpoint and any down and distance you get pressure really from any direction. It could be a corner outside, be a linebacker inside corner on the opposite side and then all the guys can rush all the guys can cover so that makes it really challenging on a down where most of the time they know you're throwing the ball. So they get groups out there that great. They're really well coordinated up front with their rush, their plans, their twists, their games, and then they can combine that with the pressure packages.

You're basically preparing for what you might see over the course of four weeks in one week. If that makes sense. What is it about the highest paid cornerback at the league? Yeah, well, it's probably all those things I just talked about when you get a guy who is great in man coverage and then can turn around and play great in vision zone coverage and get his hands on the balls. And then you look at the run game and he's one of the surest tacklers from a corner standpoint, getting up there and fit in the run and attacking people. He can do so many things when you have a man corner like that who's been able to match top receivers and play man the whole game and then do those other things. That's exceptionally rare. Is the process of what you guys deploy Travis on offense? I think that's still evolving one of those things that we're trying to find whether Travis or any of our offensive guys, what's the best way to use those guys and get the best 11 on the field given the situation? We know first and 10 is different than third and 10 and the red zone is different than when we're at the minus 20. We're trying to find a balance with Travis just like any other player on what he's doing on defense with offense just like you would with a running back who might have special teams responsibilities or as opposed to giving a guy 40 touches as much as we'd love to give to the ball every play.

Trying to find the balance with him. What's the same thing for Travis, but he's just got that extra workload on defense. I think it's something we'll continue to look at and say is it better on more first and second now more third down? Is it better in 11 person? I'll 12 person we got tight ends on the field. Is he better running these routes or those routes? That's something that I think whatever the answer is for what it looks like this year. This week may be different by the end of the year as we continue to try to find that form. Training time we got to turn the targets early this season. I know you want to get a more ball. Can you go into a game set what we have to get these guys more ballers and just kind of where the ball finds itself? I think there's certainly an element of game planning going into games where you want to make sure that you've got something for everybody where we want to feature Breton on a couple plays in Jacoby on a couple plays in Parker on a couple plays and in Tutan on a couple plays. The nice thing is we have so many guys that we want to get the ball the downside of it is especially when you don't get into a rhythm in a game and you're facing a lot of second and longs and third and longs, you lose the ability to distribute the ball maybe the way you wanted to going into the week.

I think we felt that a little bit on Sunday. From a game plan perspective we certainly have that mindset going into the week but once you get into the game you got to call the best plays for that situation for the team for the offense. The great thing about those guys is they're so selfless that they're willing to do what's best for the team at all times and I really appreciate that about them because not everybody's built like that even though as coaches we say the cliches of putting the team before yourself and all of those different things. Those guys whether Breton and Jacoby those guys you mentioned or even Parker and BT all those guys we're really fortunate to have a group that actually lives that every day. So it makes it fun for the quarterback and makes it fun for those guys makes it fun for the teammates when they see each other scoring and they're all out there celebrating where they've gotten their touches or not. Now like you mentioned it's our job as coaches to continue to find ways to distribute the ball because we have the skill guys that can all do so much with the ball on their hands. This one between the sessions was when you won I don't think you had a lot of conversation with the tablets how valuable does that give you feedback from the center and his back of the videos.

That's a great point not only from Hainz and Joan of a really the whole offensive line they've done a great job of communicating the things that they're seeing and how they're being played from a defensive standpoint because like you mentioned about the coverage you go into a game expecting them to play a certain way but they from a defense from a technique standpoint. May have adjusted some things to the way we're playing so we may run a certain screen or a certain run play based on the way those guys feel like they're hitting block or we may try to get to a certain series of runs or certain protection adjustment based on how they feel those guys are rushing them. So when you're a coach you can see things on the picture you can see things live but it's really difficult to see all 22 on the field at the same time in the depth and detail that those guys feel out they're on the field. So to get that feedback from the guys is a huge crucial element of making those in game adjustments or just getting to a certain play called based on the way they're playing us. So the growth from those guys from year one to year two across the board whether it's Hainz and Joan or the whole offensive line is really valuable for us.

You're trying to keep you we're talking about Parker who said you didn't want to take like what he's doing for granted but to see what he's been able to do just kind of keep us sending how special is that. Yeah it's it's it's exciting to see like I say when those guys are celebrating for each other again touch that's I mean I feel the same way watching Park go out there and light it up when he gets those opportunities because you see how hard he works. I'm sure you guys have heard of him or one else that he's in here so early in the morning never complains never as a bad word to say excited to be here as great energy works his tail off on the field is willing to get any extra routes after practice any work you need. He's always putting in the extra work whether it's taking care of his body study in the film talking with Trevor you see him talking in between reps at practice all the time. So he's a guy that that probably deserves all the success he's had and more so you know I don't have enough good things to say about him and really that group as a whole. If you would please with the response this week as we practice please who that's an interesting question yeah I don't know that I would I would use the word please never for anything so that's probably a bad that's probably a bad answer by me.

I've been excited to get back to work with the guys and I appreciate the effort and the intensity that they've had because you certainly feel those guys being intentional about the way they practice and the way they come into meeting rooms I mean the guys are locked in they're spitting out answers left and right they're staying focused and we go through the walk through the very detailed and intentional about those things so there's certainly is a level urgency a level of intention a level of detail that those guys have brought please this yeah that's an interesting word for me to say but I appreciate their work with that. Yeah, I appreciate it.

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