Seminole Headlines 9-15-26 Hour 2: Headliner Questions

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1:02And and they're just cool people and they like FSU football so you can talk like FSU every day right FSU athletics Yeah, I like it. Yeah, I was gonna say it's it's a very passionate love. Hey real quick before Before we go to the normal questions, we want to get you want to get all those ones in there We just think we might need to we had some we had some contributions. It's fair It'd be cool Jeff ever noticed that in my right he was on it. I mean I read one I read well I just didn't want to spend all day reading questions from the chat But I you know listen guys contribute they get they deserve their time. Yeah, they deserve the right first of all I see somebody named King something as a new member. So we appreciate that Beautiful thanks for being a new member there. He became a new YouTube member and Thomas Brown says do you think you and Russell booked his plane ticket to New York City after watching film in this secondary I mean no way nobody's going to the hot getting Vited a high school because of what they do to Florida State I think it helps to add to the over Overriding them as a better defense is waiting. Yeah, yeah, I feel like

2:04You'll see I don't know the problem is you don't know which receivers can be run in scot free You know you don't know it could be yeah, it's gonna be hard to choose at that point like which one of these guys So I throw to get paralyzed a little bit. There's probably gonna be eight to 10 busted assignments You just don't know when they're gonna come so well and those are the capitalize on those opportunities But I remember those will be the only busted assignments because their eight or nine plays away from being the best defense in the country Hey, man, we'll see I'm not I'm not making jokes until it looks like in Tuscaloosa for two weeks. I'm not doing it Tony I believe in you either one of you yet Which one of you is going up to cover the game? We're both going both we're both four state Alabama man What you've been on with the weather and this is gonna be a Haskecker Hartfield seriously give me a so has lines coming to we got a we don't have full staff coverage But we have a nice contingent there. I'm going to be there. Yeah, and in the stands where your hounds tooth Oh, I'll have I'll be decked out You got your Joe name is throwback and no doubt no, Sean Alexander, but I

3:08Know I'll be there. I just want to know which bar we're all drinking out and getting treated to free stuff I mean I mean the crew is all gonna be there Tuscaloosa has to be a buzz, but we're not saying we're not saying Tuscaloosa So yeah, we don't have that kind of money Well, are you standing brimming him? No, I don't know where we're saying I want to have a fun night without Hanging out here hanging out in Bessimer. Corey and Corey and 70 now they book under false names. Yeah, fair enough Like like to talk about the air guys because I wouldn't mind having a cool one with you guys just my friends are gonna be in Tuscaloosa It'd be cool to see it would be nice. Yeah KG noles writes after Jimbo did the admin overly what the hell am I reading here after Jimbo did the admin Overly did the admin overly optimized for nice agreeable coaches Top level coaches aren't necessarily easy to work with comes with the territory alpha dogs hope admin weren't their lesson I don't think he they failed because they wanted to hire a nice guy. I don't think that's why I might reveal a

4:12Well, no, he's I think you're going back to Willie Taggart. Well, that's a meeting lately after Jimbo There was a feeling There was a lot of good vibes When will they got hired because and you'd hear it all around the athletic department from people who are happy to work with somebody It was a lot more it was toxic when Jimbo left. We know how that went. It was pretty gross So yes, they were I think that's why they hired Willie They thought Willie could recruit it a super high level correct. They thought he would bring in a good staff That didn't happen and once they started losing he couldn't work Yeah, yeah, problem with that staff did great staff guys Some none of them have gone on the greatness no and so and then with Mike Norval Yeah, the hiring has not been to try to get a nice guy I think it's people like the idea that they could like their head coach But hopefully yeah, like McCullough said yesterday. Mike Norval is a great human being He didn't say great coach But he said he didn't get in the winbidney Yeah, but it was funny and then he's like no look nobody wants to win more than Mike Norval

5:14And then he caught himself he's like well except maybe the players and me and president Collins and probably you Cory You've been doing this for a while Don't he writes I hope we win on Saturday then fire Mike on Monday. Sorry Mike. That's not enough Um, you could be something to be actually could do it But yeah, I forgot Jimbo. We're looking up Jimbo He got fired after beating Mississippi state like 51 to 10 In that funny and him cuz they don't have to decide And they're like oh no, he might win next week too. We might have to keep them. That was really fun That's crazy timing Joseph writes what a Joseph right there's a 1% chance we end up in a parallel reality where a big 10 favorite Oregon or Penn State once again fails head coach fired landing in Franklin ends up coaching an ACC team FSU Virginia Tech Well, there's so he's saying landing because I mean they look horrible like they should have lost by four Cutting videos that have made the rounds of the tell their quarterback There's a tell with run pass because of something that he was really yeah It is pretty obvious. I mean they got that but that that was like the SMU Florida State game

6:16It was not nearly as close as the score And they hadn't had the pick six followed by the other near pick six They were going to blow out four. That's what though glow mistake coach said He's like we should one we think we should one by 25 points. There's like there's no way landing would get axed This year is there oh no god though I think that was what he was trying to there were two or three games last weekend Where other teams coaches came out and later and said that there was a tell or something about that Which I think I would do that every time I won a game I'd be like oh yeah, you know what? Yeah, I'm not gonna tell you what it was But we know what there was there a time Oh Every analyst on the staff has got a shower fired. Yeah, well, I thought the analyst for Oregon is in trouble Because that is your job and at some point you know, and he's like oh hell this this is real I remember back in the day There was a time where uh when Mike Martin Sr. was still coaching and There was a conversation in the dugout I'm not gonna name all the names of the players involved But one of the pictures somebody said that I think you're tipping your pitches or I think that they know what are because Mike

7:17Martin would make the calls from the dugout yeah, and somebody said I think they've got our signs and somebody else said The entire conference has all of our signs like oh yeah, yeah, it's it's not a secret We haven't yeah, he's still going from my 85. Yeah, we haven't seen Shaking it up a whole yeah He's out there. We're going with number one. Yeah, yeah, I think it's a fastball guys Get it, Luke get ready All right, I gotta give Cory credit. I never do oh good, but he actually That was pretty funny your prompt on Facebook was this Alabama week every time it is Alabama week man This is a big game. It's a big game. It's a home and home. That was well done Cory. I laughed at that Um, okay, so right away. We got some good questions. I'm excited about this Something had to change. I'm interested to hear what you two have to say about this Something had to change for FSU to go from refusing to make a major move during the season Defiring its AD during the Alabama week. Hmm. What do you think happened behind the scenes that made FSU decide it can't wait any longer

8:18I think I'm gonna answer first. I read because I before I have to cough and spit something in this cup. Let's not do um I think it's the way the football team looked those first two weeks definitely a big part of it It's gotta be like it wasn't just that you you look you look just average ass against New Mexico state And then you should have lost by four touchdowns. That's some you and it's like yeah enough of this I honestly think that's it. It was a bunch of factors. That's a huge one That's the one that got fired now right? Well, I think that was a big one But there's a few things going on there But yeah ultimately football being bad and The feeling being that you've led them down this path where they didn't invest enough into and you didn't take the steps Necessarily to get the resources to have a better paid roster But there were other things too. I mean there were just other things in the athletics department for the way somebody put it to me was He really didn't have the support of a lot of the coaches on campus That's something you've talked about in the past The he didn't really have support of some of the donors who earlier believed in him And he ultimately lost the support of the trustees pay didn't pay the power bill

9:22That was embarrassing So yeah, no, it just it was a combination of things and then there were a couple of like specific incidents that I don't need It doesn't really matter. I know one of them are there were some things to talk about. There were some things that happened late They kind of sped it up the tea spill the tea. I just think there were some things that sped it up. Yeah, it was gonna happen Yeah, you got sped up a little bit. I wanted to know it had looked good against S and you he's the AD right now probably that's how that works I think he was gonna be fired at some point probably but not not then not when he was maybe not I would say this I have felt for some time that Well for me when when coaches is Relack of a better term when some of the coaches at Florida state expressed to me that they were frustrated with the athletic director And you had all the other issues that we've documented about failing to see where it was going and all these things I thought the second that coaches were willing to say something to I mean they know I'm in the media When they start talking openly about things like that you kind of realize dudes in deep trouble And that was happening last year and I think he knew he was in trouble

10:23I think that's the whole thing behind the Bianchi piece. Oh, that's a hundred percent and that was another thing Come on man. I mean that's so well a lot of people. Yeah. Oh, yeah, so for people that weren't Paying attention so late in the summer right before the season started Michael Alpha was interviewed by Mike Bianchi or land of Sentinel Well respected fs. You beat writer Anyway, love Mike Bianchi, but yeah, that was a weird choice. It seemed curious indeed But anyway, any basically went on the record is saying that we've given Mike Norville everything you possibly need now He has to go win games Not a great message to send to your head coach and also probably not accurate So that didn't sit well with some people But also last year leaking out link ifin was your choice I think he was trying to do it and I was trying to yes, I won't even use well I only have been married Marie So way too old way too old have you seen her lately? Oh no kidding But the point was that also was not a good look because that was leaked out clearly by him and his people

11:28Because they wanted to make it look make it look like he was serious and that he wanted to make a change He was combating they didn't let him get it was getting ripped so those are all things and it was that was terrible for Mike Norville Terrible first coaching staff to know that you're a D. Why not Andy Reid? Why don't you try to get Andy Reid last year when he was on the point is those those things were not helpful either And I thought not only did he do that to try to look like he was more serious than he was But it's disingenuous. You can't out of one side of your mouth tell everybody that they can't afford this and that And they don't have the money to do this and that and then you're gonna try to have her lane kiffon Yeah, cuz he's gonna come here on a budget. I mean what do we even talk about they put out a feeler as Sean McVay? Well, I think that's for the basketball job. He's talking to what's the name of the hotel? I see right right that guy wasn't coming to him for this stop that nonsense Will wait will wait there's Robert right. It's with Michael offered now out in the administration clearly Signaling that major changes are coming. What do you believe is the actual plan for if you football right now And how much of that plan depends on what happens with my norvel against Alabama and Miami Yeah, I think they're in a bad position This part of it is the part that's tough to stomach

12:31Like these games I don't feel like mean much. I think My norvel is going to be fired This is it right. I feel like it's going to be fired Maybe there's a world where the Virginia game means something But this is it like I feel like he's coaching for his job if they get beat badly He's not going to be the head coach For the Clemson game in my opinion. I don't think he will be here for the Clemson game There's that by week between Miami and he might get to go to Louisville and Miami get his head stomped in Or would you do it right after Miami or if they play well Again if they play well they're not going to I know but they could Jeff they could their people do play well The Florida State basketball team almost beat Duke I was losing by 40 points in C-Stake I kind of was Corey had been my dad Like Oklahoma State lost to Tulsa badly and then beat Oregon like stop it can happen here Probably won't but if and when he gets beat badly in Tuscaloosa

13:32You're just riding out it's a matter of you don't want to fire them now You want to wait to see how bad it is against Virginia because they can beat Virginia They have equal talent to Virginia But they might also lose by four touchdowns. Yeah, so The question is when the question is the question is not if the question is when unless they win this weekend I reckon you can be the rest of the games and when the national time if they win this weekend That he's safe for the rest of the year. No, no, but but the net the he has a chance To be the coach at the end of the year if he wins an Alabama chance, but he would have what kind of law They almost hard lane kippin last year and then you're going to talk to me about law law lamb The point is it's None of this none of what we saw in the first two weeks correct gives you any hope at all that they're going to turn this around So assuming it's on that trajectory. Yeah, it's a question is when not if and uh and as far as how it's going to play out Yeah, I mean the the first thing what they have to do now the most pressing need and this is why I think they would rather not Like do you say dub pressing need or pressing the most pressing. I think they would rather not fire Mike Norville

14:36As long as possible because yeah, they do have to get this AD situation and then the structural changes and again go to warchant.com I'd long interview with Peter Collins and Richard McCulley yesterday where they talk about structural changes that they want to do And that's the first thing on the agenda. They've got to get that right Yeah, I'm gonna tie entice and athletic Then they have to hire the AD with that plan like there This is the plan we're presenting to perspective AD's bring in that AD. Maybe it's two people and then Then you have to go identify the football coach and go make that higher and get that higher right but So can I ask me it doesn't matter whether they fire Mike nor valon Sunday or next three weeks or now. Yeah, yeah It's they've got to go in that proper. I agree, but I do want to ask you a pointed question if you know I assume the next athletic director is the one hiring the coach. I think they'll be part of it But I don't know that that's a definite 100% because We don't know when that person's gonna be in place So I don't know that you can bank on that. I do think it's important that he be in place or she

15:38Relatively quickly because I do think that any perspective athletic director is gonna ask the question about making the hire No, for sure. I think my contention is I feel like that that situation is getting a little bit blurred now as time goes on Because the presidents and the chairs of the board of trustees at all these schools now are so involved I don't it used to be that you wanted the ad Shoot even when Jimbo is here towards the end Jimbo would say I don't really care so much about the ad I have to be aligned with the president in the trustees because They're ultimately one there's this much money in play. He also hated the ad Yeah, but but the point is you need to be in lockstep with with the leadership Well, and they need to know what that is and there's so much money now involved that I think it's a little bit It's not as important is it was back in the day? Yeah, it's still important. Yeah, it's important They're not gonna hire an ad and just say go get them go get them No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, of course. I'm not saying it. I'm just saying that any potential ad is gonna say well

16:40I mean I for sure because I'm attached. I'm tethered with this coach. Yeah, you just fired the last ad You didn't even hire Mike norbo. Yeah, that's I mean, it's gonna be interesting to see the order of things and how it plays out I mean, I do think it is blurry too. I agree with you um How does Alfred's firing affect his place at the helm of the college baseball selection committee right Spencer could be interesting if we're fighting for a top 8 national seat He can't still be on the he's no, that's a good question. I it is a good point by as an ad you can't be on that committee That'd be a hell of a thing. Yeah I can I be on top of that committee. I mean, I mean somehow Florida state gets sent as a three-seat Michigan or again like you sit out in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, that's a good quote I guess he's not on it. I don't know. I would think he's not on it. Will you write? I don't know it But I would guess will he writes fellas we finally have some action can anyone elaborate on the NIO and specifically why we rarely hear from the battles in these days England seems MIA and the website hasn't updated since 2023. I can I'm gonna give you the very short version here

17:41There's still looking for an iTiga. No The the website part of this look this is part of the total alignment that we keep talking about right there was a struggle There's a power struggle part of the problem that four states had without specifically naming names is that they have not been aligned And they've not been able to message properly to boosters fans alumni season ticket holders at all where those people should send their money They see that odds Information depending on who you talk to them correct and so because I think that Michael offered and others wanted this to be internal in FSU's control meaning the the NIO and Ingram and others were not willing to just give that to them then they were at odds and this speaks to the larger issue of not being on the same page and all pulling the same direction. So that fight Presumably would be over. We'll see where it goes from here. I think you may end up seeing some sort of action relatively soon I will say this that we're at hotel in to go for all home games And that is the battles in tailgate That I'm a part of with Tom for the pregame show and we do see plenty of battles in members come there

18:44And they contribute in shake hands and they still have a lot of members who are giving money Yeah, and and I think they want to be active very active again and they played a big role in The success signings in different sports. Oh, that's a big point to make. Yes, absolutely Which is bigger factor in Norbell's lack of recruiting his lack of emphasis on recruiting in general Or the administration's lack of understanding the NIO era and FSU not being taken seriously because of that Yeah, he's talking about agents not taking four states seriously, but I think it goes back before then go ahead Yeah, I agree with you. I think it's the root of it is Mike nor vell not understanding what recruiting and how important it is What recruiting really means maybe he also like he doesn't maybe it's just he's not good at it Maybe understands it's not good at well I just can tell you the difference like I wish I could work on cars Well, this is something that you've heard we've heard people talk about for a long time And it's and I've heard it from so many people who know what's going on that I'm inclined to believe it is that Mario Cristobal treats recruiting like it's life or yes 100% like they're their staff has to make so many calls every day

19:45Yeah, they have to get guys on FaceTime recruits bring him to him he Think back to that video as long got when they got that offensive tackle There's a number one offensive time in the country And we were over there in Amelia Island and as long saw him take the call down the hallway and videotape him And Cristobal's going crazy and high five in everybody in the world. I just don't know you don't see that from the guy here The priority on recruiting is huge for him And so that's how his coaches operate like they know that there's that pressure It's the mandate. It's the mandate. It's like even if I'm bad at it Cory I'm gonna demand since I'm the head coach if I hire you and a bunch of other people that you go kick ass at it Or else you're not gonna be here. Yeah, and I don't think this guy ever did that and I like in again, man There's some things I really like about Mike Norville But when you go back to the Travis Hunter thing when you go back to the DB the KJ bolden yeah like these situations the He could play in the winter Auburn. I mean like there's just situations where they thought they had things nailed down. Yeah, they didn't So like the one thing about Jimbo he was used to recruiting and was very good at it

20:48It not just saying knew how important it was he was good at it And I think Norville just I don't know that he has to grab a toss when he talks to these agents and these people and their family I don't know. I don't know. He's not good at it. He became a broken record too Clint writes if if if you get blown out on Saturday and or looks incompetent What would be the reason for not firing Mike on Sunday? Yeah, I don't know. It's his alma mater like legitimately his alma mater zero care. I know you don't care I don't think anybody know. No, I know you're right. I don't know. It's just that would make it the Could you fire him and say you get to coach this last game? No, because he wouldn't get booed Do you think he'd get booed if they said this is his last game either way like Ron's look got to keep coaching and he had been fired Yeah, man. What do you I mean, it's just it's a bad mess to the team. I just think it's a Yeah, I don't think it's ugly. Mark writes he'd been tired of this. I'm about tired all those guys The administration has clearly bought themselves a little time and though it's unlikely to happen How insane would it be if FSU beats Alabama this week and it plays well for the rest of the year. Yeah, extend him

21:50I'll say something that you guys might disagree with Uh-oh. If he goes ten and two, I'd still fire him Now by the way He is not going to go to the time. I mean, that's a that is a that's crazy. They didn't think I said oh you know He's not the answer long-term. No, he's fired his ass. He goes ten and two then you're like well good lord offered But was weighing him down. He's the next Nick Sabin. No, he's not and they're still not gonna recruit well. No, man He's gonna go and ten and he's not he'd be in the playoff. You're not firing him if he gets to the playoff It would be hilarious. We'd be like uh, I want to I want that to play out now just to see out where he's not in two I'm gonna be like we're firing your ass It would be hilarious. There's like like it was like a sitcom or something where every week Crazy things are happening. Yeah, and they're winning and the administration's like what are we gonna do? Yeah, there's a guy wide open the in zone again for the game winning touchdown because somebody's always wide open and the ball hits a bird It just falls down the bird dies and then they win. They just keep winning that way. Yeah, they still fire and don't worry guys

22:51If you're of the mindset that is similar to me I'll be here championing that firing every week no matter how much they win the win Jeff the win They win 56 to 7 Saturday. I'm gonna lead with still firing your ass. I don't care. I don't forget. I don't forget Civil headlines not a three three real talk where they were to a TV continue at a moment with my kids Both of them finding their way back to school You know, there's tension in the household because somebody's got to figure it out You got to figure out how your kids can eat healthy and you're trying to at least I am in my house Put together a lunch plan that makes some sense for them that's gonna work So we get that lunch box packed with great food with great ingredients and I'll tell you a thrive market makes that possible Thrive market by the way if you don't know is a membership based online grocery Just $5 a month to get access to curated selection of organic and non GMO brands 90 plus dietary filters weekly sales free gifts and the peace of mind that 1000 plus ingredients are already restricted

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24:54QB to the phone number 850 386 825 3500 dollar value you get dinner buffet reserve seats in the whole kitten Commoodle QB to 850 386 8255 my eligible Jackson I don't want to do it if I'm not eligible to say your name's Jerry Are we getting paid for that ad read so you probably should be eligible Uh Fellas without for being fired could it be possible that the administration has already told Mike he will not be retained I think Mike knows he's not going to retain but I don't I don't think Mike knows he better he better go 10 and 2 A whole jet camera thought in control He knows he needs to win and win quicker. He's he's done Um, he should have known that anyway, but yeah, I don't I don't think there's no way they would have told him yet So I don't think that's just how you operate a business. That's because then you're saying what if he doesn't matter what you do You guys have ever been fired and had to work somewhere where you knew the firing was coming No, I'm a good employee right? I know not everybody who gets fired is a bad employee. It's good point

25:59I'm a great employee and I will never get fired. That's not true. Right? Not called what where's some what I can not call Um, all right Jonathan writes yay sausage We need a new football coach for the first name that starts with the letter L Then by their powers combined Luke Lonnie Link and football will dominate under the new ad Okay, all right. I I wouldn't throw Luke in there yet with uh and I like Luke a lot And I think you might have a good team, but Lonnie's won a national championship and links been normal a couple times So he doesn't quite belong in there yet But I like and that was the thing I was going to bring up not that it's going to happen with this football team Clearly it won't because we have six years of data But that basketball team that Luke had in early January that lost in C state by 50 points was an embarrassment Two months later they're an inch away from beating Duke like Other teams not saying the Florida State football team Ira, but other teams do improve and get better and make adjustments All I'm saying can happen in some sports it happens in a lot it happens in football quite a bit just not

27:04Maybe with this guy flow right a man with a piece says is there an Hot board coming soon guys Would you would you get the like I mean the problem with doing a hot board right now is they still have an exactly ironed out How they're going to structure what this position is going to be so it is probably going to be like would it be a hot board of ADs around the country would it be like CEO's of like a it's not going to be a traditional AD So it would have to be business type people and there are some names out there and and you can make a case for Why some of them should be considered? I mean You know drew weather for it obviously is a guy that people talk about a little bit because he is very involved in the business world private equity That kind of thing. I don't know if that makes sense. I also think that um, you know, you're you're part of it is going to have to be finding somebody who That it's going to be worth it to them if you if somebody's very successful in business Is being an AD worth leaving their day job, you know, so there's good I mean there's I just think it's it's hard right now to pigeon tail

28:05But it's not going to be a traditional AD and it's probably not going to be some of the names people throughout their yesterday were Derek Brooks or you know brandy Stewart who was an FSU athlete that's done really well in ethics administration But I don't think it's going to be somebody it's got to be somebody very driven to revenue and I Those people probably don't make sense because they haven't proven it Derek Brooks's boss higgins the CEO of athletics and Tampa is connected corporately to everything in the state of Florida But he's at his of usf and i think his son goes to four state But uh, I don't think there's a way they can wrestle him away But we talk about the revenue driven part of this man is that dude connected He kind of invented the job that he's at at usf right now very impressive guy I don't know impersonal it sounds like I'm his agent But if you people like that it would make sense um, but I don't think you could get him away from usf right now Uh Gentlemen of the p pistols and pie um pie and pistols finally breaking news on money to be discussed by our headline crew on a Tuesday Yeah, that's something's are looking up love the insights and jokes you guys always provide thank you

29:10Thanks very really appreciate that Uh Kevin someone was 51 and 26 and his six years of Texas a name Jimbo Fisher was 45 and 25 and his six years of Texas a And since someone had the better overall record there shouldn't the Jimboists actually be swooning for someone Get you some someone for that ass That really what he says that's funny. That's great. Yeah Uh, is it a good thing that if it's you lost by three to SMU because we are even as bad as we played not far from being two and oh and Would anything change would anything have changed that would have been the most Not the most, but it would have been a terribly uh Not representative Results yeah, based on how the game was played a florist a to one that game. No. Yeah, they tried SMU was like here take the game Hey crimey river You're allowed to win games where you got get out game by 300 yards and I offered would still be the ad if they had one that game I don't know for how much loss be still be there possibly Uh in 2027 would you rather have a new head coach or mic with an unlimited new head coach new head coach

30:17Unlimited in iL budget too big to fail I mean think about it. He said unlimited Corey. Okay, so you're 80 million. Yeah, then yes, if those are my two Because um I get a animal from the zoo to coach the team that he got 90 million correct Yeah, but then I mean I listen, I hear you brother. All right, but I'm letting you know if it's unlimited That's the answer he'd get the Charlotte He get is he get a team of Charlotte if he had 90 million dollar roster. I mean you literally have a pro at every single position That would be great. Yeah, yeah, you're right. I'll take that. I would take that Do you think the admin had already put out feelers for Alfred's replacement prior to firing him? Ira I don't think feelers like to me feelers makes it sound like you're just kind of like letting it known that that I do think it was it was becoming known that there was going to be a change at Florida state So I think that people are probably aware of it But I don't think that they started negotiating or anything like that I still think they still have to nail down exactly what the position is going to be and what the power structure is going to be on that note

31:22Because I that's a very serious thing and I care deeply it will be yet another sign that they can be taken even more seriously by people Who for the first time in a while are starting to take them seriously What do you think I mean that they're going to now move ahead push ahead? I presume they have a plan They'll share some of that they are have already started like when do you think we'll start getting nuggets of information about how How they're moving along here the way it was explained to me is they've got a pretty good idea of an outline of what they what they want to do The president is going to have to sign off on that President McCullough is going to have to he's not the one see handling the details It's a small team from what I understand that's been working on this They'll get a McCullough he'll have to look at it and say yes this makes sense Then they're going to talk to some other people to try to make sure that there's no holes in it So that's going to take a few days that I think that isn't important so they're going to talk to some of the different stakeholders and different areas because they're also trying to Realign not just the athletics department but with similar boosters to get in the right page

32:23I think one of the things that they figured out during this process is They were not as aligned as they needed to be so Trying to get all that ironed out Pocoles in it see whether or not it makes sense if anybody sees any issues with it then they'll move forward But I think that could be within a you know a couple weeks and then it's a matter of okay now We know exactly what we're doing we can present that vision to candidates So you know, I mean, I think you could they could be going to market within the next few weeks But then you have to go make the higher so that's why I think the the The football coach part I think it would be easier for them the best case scenario I think for them would be my norvel makes until the very end of the season And then you've got the AD not makes it to the end of season being whether jobs are closed Yeah, but you know makes it far enough so you're not having to Fill both positions at the same time So I think the AD could be in the next few weeks and then you turn immediately to To the football it's important to have other people look at it because you get siloed in these positions and men of great powered

33:26You know like to be told they're wrong or that their idea is faulty and so you need somebody to come in with weight to say Look you guys have got it mostly right, but this can't happen or we need to add this or something along those lines And that's well listen man, that's one of the problems they've had there I think that they haven't and I think it's problem for Mike norvel and I think it was a problem for Michael offered If you surround yourself with people who are just going to tell you that sounds great boss You're never going to have the right answers. So you have to It's good for the administration to open that door But now it's up for these other people to step up and say yeah, man, that's that's this is a problem Uh Cameron writes do we think the defense has a better chance at success this weekend after all they'll be on the road So they should be able to communicate better since it'll be quiet. I'll be quieter. Yeah, that's good. Maybe this team will be a road juggernaut I don't see how that's not the case camera. I don't I'm trying to do because if you if you take away the communication issues Yeah, you might have the best defense of the country That guy says what needs are you presenting to the new AD?

34:26Not obvious stuff like a recruiter etc I know Jeff's first ask will be for a new baseball stadium That's not my first ass dad guy. I do I would like to see a new baseball stadium, but that's not my first ask Yeah, no to me. It's the number one Cloderman is raising money for the roster. I mean, it's just that's overall. That's what it has to be um Because again you I just think that to your you we're kind of joking about Mike norvel having an unlimited roster I like your chances man. I don't think Mario Cristobal became a great head coach Yeah, it's a coincidence that they're now spending $50 million on their their team. Yeah, it's to usually go hand in hand Uh, who's the interim head coach if they fire Mike after this weekend. It's a good question It is a good question because I don't like any answer right now There's nobody on the staff that I'd be happy about you can't go back to Odell I don't think I guess you could but I don't know why you would I there's not a real good answer. I think as long throughout their herb hand Herb hand yeah, he's like give her a hand to shot. I was like I it's by woman. I like herb

35:27Yeah, I don't know maybe he seems like a serious guy. He could possibly be But he's got a lot going on. Is it could be Tony? I just don't see that Well, he hasn't earned it because of the way his defense has played But he might be a guy that can you know, see that at all. All right, um, I mean, yeah, I mean, I think It's an untenable situation. I think no matter who the interim head coach is he's just gonna continue to lose like in the problem And the problem is your your your staff Right now you may have you asked earlier if we've ever been fired and or you knew we were gonna be fired the one similar situation I had where my boss got fired and everybody in my department is when I was working in on vagus insider calm back in the day Kick ass. It was a good job. I love me some vagus insider back in the day. So we me my boss Three or four people that were equal level to me and then Two of the four people that worked for me all got fired They came in fired everybody marching to HR bottom. Jesus. Yeah, it was it was not a good time It was a bloody win. They were survived it was an idea because and at the time I thought it was because they liked me

36:29Turns out they just needed somebody to keep the right the site up. Yeah, he likes on But when it happened it was basically like I didn't know I thought we were all getting fired I survived and a couple of people that worked for me survived, but What for the why I went home to that night and I told Kim I said listen I'm gonna be at work in five thirty in the morning because TJ gets the guy who's a COO that fired everybody He gets hurt six So I'll be getting there five thirty and he doesn't leave usually till like seven thirty or eight You're just not gonna see your husband. So basically I was like I have to not get fired So I'm gonna be there before he gets there and I'm gonna leave after he leaves and so I did survive. I he promoted me. I got raises it worked out really well So the assistant coaches could take that task that tack if they know they're gonna get fired or yeah But they're getting you you were trying to save your jobs. Yes, they know their jobs. Don't matter what no I agree but but just a matter of some people might want to impress yeah Yeah, you know and but some other people may be like you know what I'm done here So the concern if you do fire the head coach during the season is and you don't have a good

37:29Interim head coach that it completely goes to hell. That's not great either Yeah, I have a feeling it's gonna completely go to hell I don't think there's a good way to do this I think they're gonna end up firing the head coach at some point I think most of those coaches right now are already contacting their agents about trying to find a landing spot I think this is this is this is could put boys. I'll tell you I There is a chance they that hasn't happened and it doesn't happen until Saturday night like 730 That's when they're like you know what I think there's a chance people in that building think to have a chance this weekend And they haven't given up on the season. I don't know how many of them think that they're gonna survive after the season Yeah, but but if they until like me they're listening to this right now going well He's got a good point if we beat Alabama trains back on the track boys Just that's your audience The saying I used to ask him Oh, buddy Seminole headlines 93 real talk ready to watch a TV continues in a moment You know those pieces in your closet that you find yourself wearing repeatedly Sweater that seems to go with the jeans just right maybe a perfect pair of pants the t-shirt that just fits perfectly not too tight not too loose

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39:37Gentlemen, what is the possibility that private equity someone like say a weatherford capital who is already involved in the big 12 wants to get involved here Should private equity be regarded the same way as it was by FIFA members? Yeah, I'm not the familiar exactly with what happened with the FIFA members, but I don't I'm not a huge fan of private equity in college athletics Agreed if we had to hire a former player as head coach or a d one or the other who would it be in for which position? Wow I mean you mentioned Derek Brooks he'll come to people will start talking about Derek Brooks A great former seminal bright guys done a lot of great work and certainly working in administration at us And he's a sharp guy and he's done good things in business I just don't know if he's and I just don't know it over best track record whether or not he's going in found business Because this is the thing yeah, you know, I've seen people say you know, well, maybe Somebody that's worked in NFL organization or somebody that's worked at a There's there's a difference between selling a product like Michael offered worked for the Dallas Cowboys

40:41I don't know how much selling that you know required you're the Dallas Cowboys They make all of their money off of marketing. They don't they don't ever win They don't win championships But they've created this thing that where they're selling their product and so But can you go out and create revenue? Can you go out and Drive revenue that's that's the question. I don't know if Derek Brooks has done something like that. So I don't know Yeah, I don't think they're going to to your point. I don't think they're gonna hire anybody that falls under the umbrella of traditional right I think this is gonna be a CEO business Making that point like you don't have to have played sports. Yeah to be the AD Uh and to for people that don't remember when they hired Michael offered they tried Peter Collins tried to hire the former Louisville AD who was a guy who had Was a more of a more of a business background. That's what originally was gonna do that thing went sideways over there And then they end up hiring Michael offered Greg writes thoughts on a Suman and levy package deal coming to fsu levy has really improved that program

41:44Don't leave out the quarterback the biggest part of that package is the quarterback. Yep well I'm glad that you jumped in there because that's what I was thinking Yeah, like the quarterback kind of matters in this equation any alley goes on to talk about their women sports are good I don't care about women sports. Yes, sell them in the AD there. Hey, you will always speak for you on that. I just said I yeah, yeah Levy it's funny though because and we were tech I was tech some quarry over the weekend because everybody's watching every fs u fan is now watching these games as you know You know couch, you know GM and you're trying to figure out okay. I like this coach. I like that coach I don't like this coach anymore, you know, heartlines off my board now. He's back on my board because they came back in one that game Levy was one that a few of my friends were like excited about but yeah, it's the quarterback That's the ticket well the problem. Yeah, because you know look at Mike norvel with Jordan with a good quarterback without it like he but he was uh I said it half jokingly now I'm a hundred percent true. I Jordan Travis might have been He might have set Florida state back eight years

42:45But I mean because if he doesn't he said norvel would have been fired in the middle of 2022 if he didn't have if Jordan Travis had stayed at Louis and tech saying M should be mad at James Winston. He should be banned from that. Yeah, you're right. You're absolutely right. Yep I want to do head coach, but in order to do that quickly, I know we have to lose How do I watch us and not root to lose while I know losses make us look sorry as a T sorry as a team like Rutgers I would think you know the losses are coming anyway, so go ahead and cheer for your team to win Because you know, even if they somehow miracle to win They're gonna lose in a couple weeks. No, no, don't give you it. You know what I mean like go ahead and enjoy the wins If you get a I never root for us to lose I'll be at the game root for us to beat Alabama. So if they if they kick a if if our man what's the kicker's name For floor see yeah panicowski if panicowski kicks a 48 yard at the horn to beat Alabama go buddy 33 to one a day Are you gonna be what part of you? Let's say it's 30 to 28 when he lines up I was not a room to miss it. I'm gonna room for him to make it But if he makes it you've swept Alabama you've just beaten Alabama

43:47And you might be four and one and all the sudden legitimately yeah, but you could also just get your ass beat by Virginia Yeah, but maybe not I mean just saying like I don't think long term that might know how's gonna make it So that way just be nice his chances of being here long term get increased exponentially if you beat Alabama sure I don't know the things so weird way to I think they they just pushes it like goes from 0% to 10 that's a that's a thousand percent problem for Mike norvel It's not been winning that kind of a game. It's it's sustaining it over the road season But my point being like there are gonna be people I think and I don't think it's gonna be close but if it is close There are gonna be some Florida state fans that might be conflicted You know, it's a weird place to be with what he's done to this program of last six years now Always place to be I'll always read for us to win. I can't read against us And so if he lines that kick up, I'm gonna be like make it partly just to see what the other people in these stands Just like can you imagine the devastation of Bama fans like really we know this team is asked

44:48We know they're gonna go on to do nothing and we just lost them again I think it would be great if you just if you're sitting there in the stands and just laugh maniacally. Oh, yeah the whole way Don't say anything Again again, I'm just gonna start saying again. You're nightmare will never end again. You sorry asses Yeah, that It would be something and they gonna happen boys. It's not probably yeah probably not um Yesterday was an enormous press conference for the future of our program. I couldn't help but notice that our president Repeatedly and loudly cleared his throat throughout did either Jeff or Ira think of Cory in those moments. Hmm. No. No I thought Jim Lamar right sure my man Jim You know, I'm just if we had a if we had a cough button You wouldn't have to hear it at all But we can't get a cough button around here and I'm an old man and I make old man sound and we just can't get you healthy I can't get healthy. I'm literally going to urgent care. I mean come on Because Dr. Hartzfield never got back from me. I'm literally going to urgent care after we're done recording I do feel compelled in the waiting seconds to say that my flippant comment about women sports had less to do with my opinion of women playing sports

45:55And more to do with the money situation. Sure. What if women's sports do not matter at the bottom line for the money situation For state athletics and I think most people know that but I better clarify in case they don't Yeah, and we talked about talked about that a little bit on the live reaction show yesterday where you know people are you can Yeah, they're like soccer is good. Yeah, Michael offered some positive things and some sports but at the end of the day So Cory was saying earlier. It's football. I mean football. I football is good Everything's good for everybody. It football is bad people are going to start losing jobs Yeah, and I think there are indications and it's frustrating gene brought that up yesterday that you're already starting to see some of these dominant programs that are Lest or tier less revenue Making programs start to to fall through a little bit. So I worry about that You know, I mean and as long as this is allowed to persist it's only going to get worse You know how long until especially if and this is why it was a big day yesterday If you continue to operate at a deficit and didn't have the money to bring in the best players How long would you keep your soccer coach? How long are you gonna keep at some point?

46:59You know The softball coach as much as she maybe beloved and she is absolutely and rightfully so and she's been highly successful at some point They're gonna offer her at an SEC school more money than they go already has she jipped She also just lost her two best players in the best player in school history to Texas right So that's what I mean. I mean you this was all gonna crumble anyhow. So you get it All right boys. You did a good work. Maybe not just go warn some best player in school history But east so was east so was on the track Peace out as I say feel better buddy. Thanks. All right. Of course say goodbye Talk to you next time. All right. There you go. Hey bonus hour coming up everybody me and Tom discussing much of this and some other things as well Including pro sports so stay tuned and reminder text QB to 850 386 8255 in order to try to win two. I mean make that four tickets tonight's Featured speaker gene chisic former Auburn head coach at the quarterback club Be good everybody