Sep 11's Official Narrative? Ex Prosecutor Lionel | AU 680

0:00821 are we alive with Lionel folks? It is September 11th. Lionel was like witnessing what was going on. And I got his newsletter today and I was really moved by it. And he's talking about his personal experience but also the official narrative and questions that have been lingering in his mind. So we will be covering this topic. If anyone's got any questions about me with chat, if you wanna subscribe to Lionel, his links are all in the description box. So please support his important work. Huge thank you for coming on my friend. Thank you. No, no, I'm glad we're doing this because this has been, this was my red pill moment. This is what I hate to use that word excessively. But I was, this is my defloration. I lost my innocence. I really did. I mean, I kinda knew that, you know, the world was bad, the world was evil, but I never knew that it wasn't necessarily the bad guys

1:02who were bad, but the media and the narrative and how people changed it and how people basically just looked the other way. And we're seeing it now with everything you can imagine. Name the case and we're doing it right now. Name the case, Clancy. Oh, Clancy or Robinson or any of the other cases, well, you heard the ladies with the Clancy, right? The jurors black. What? That's, did you hear that one? No. Oh, this is a great one. One of the jurors was on, I'm changing the subject now, but one of the jurors for Clancy was on Gail King. This is CBS, this is Oprah's friend Gail King, a black woman. And the jurors said, well, you know, the whole now was this and this and he goes, yeah. And what, oh, and they said, well, you know, we have people of white, people of color. And Gail King said, people of color,

2:03well, who were they? Well, they were, one was male. One was male. Is that the whole now? Yeah. And because the black fellow was the whole now, the reaction was what? And they're going crazy. They're like, well, wait a minute. So these femme libs, I'm using these terrible terms, and that's why you're crazy. Oh, so you mean the guy who basically thought she killed her kid was a black guy? Because let me tell you something. And I know people don't want to hear this, but in American culture, black folks don't kill their kid. This is this, they don't, you know what I mean? So wait a minute. So that's where it's phenomenal. That's the case today. So that's still, there's still not done with it, but anyway, but today, I want to ask you a very simple question. You've been doing this for a while. Do you believe the official narrative

3:04that three steel buildings came down based upon two of them of jet fuel and one based on debris or carpet fire or something? Do you believe that, Sean, well, yes or no? What puts in the chat, if you believe that or not, I absolutely do not believe that. I am privy to the options trading that came in prior to this event. And that was one of my wake up moments as well. That doesn't prove anything. I'm sorry. That's a, that's a very interesting take. That doesn't prove anything. If you're an options trader and you fully understand the intricacies, it certainly convinces you. That, but, but to be, but to be fair, and we always want to be fair, my friend, it could also be that somebody had advanced knowledge of a legitimate terrorist attack that was going on, where Al Qaeda or ISIS or wherever these people were

4:05would have been involved in that. So I mean, I mean, I know that I'd be before fetched, but that in and of itself doesn't mean anything. The, the options, the trades were placed, but majority of them through Alex Brown, Busy Crongott, XCA, all traced to X, XCA run brokerage. And if, going crazy now, if they knew that Al Qaeda, ISIS was going to do this, and it was a lie hop, let it happen on purpose versus make it happen on purpose. Theoretically they could have said, put the trades through, I've got some, we've got some terrorist chatter out there that says this is happening. And so, you know, so, I mean, so that could have happened. I'm not saying it did. The, that, that's not it. Looking at just the physical evidence alone, irrespective, I asked, not whether ISIS did this

5:07or whether it was an inside job or CIA or Mossad, I didn't say that. I said, do you believe the official narrative? I did not believe the CIA. I did not believe it, and I believed that the CIA created ISIS. Well, ISIS, if you remember, this came back, this started a lot of this, the Taliban and others, when we were playing around in Afghanistan, when Big Da Bershinsky wanted to, Radhika, I remember he said, I want to make, I want to make Afghanistan their Vietnam, you know, that's sort of thing. So, so anyway, but irrespective of that, the official narrative, two buildings hit by a plane, each a plane, the internal combustion, the gasoline, which is really kerosene, exploded, and that fire or that mixture or that over,

6:10raised the temperatures of a steel structured building to such an extent that it all fell at free fall speed on its own footprint, free fall. That means that there was no resistance. That means, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, you have to remove the resistance below. That's not possible. That did not happen. And as far as building seven at 5.20 PM, the Solomon Brothers Building, remember that great BBC reporter who said, and the Solomon Brothers Building, no, it's right, remember the arrows, it's right here. That might have been an error. So my first question was, I don't know who did what, but the narrative makes no sense. And building seven is even more ridiculous because that was just hit by quote, debris.

7:13So everybody knows, anybody who's, it just has a couple of neurons says that the official narrative of jet fuel causing, you know, there's elastic and plastic where causes these steel structure. And then think about this to basically wear out and to fail such that each, if it's 110 floors, if let's say it was at the 80th or the 90th, and you say a second each, that's a minute, this was like in second, no. So anyway, floor yes, yes, a stover seat, you said, yellow, Poland, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand it. I know that Norma Manetta, that the Chinese canceled the stand on order. I know there was about what about 40 or so, 40 or so, drills, operation, vigilant, warrior and all of this stuff. So forget that, simple, I wanna ask your audience,

8:16yes or no. Do you believe the official narrative that on this day, for the first time in recorded history, three, but two, really well constructed, I mean, really well constructed, steel structures, fell and you could just, on their footprint at meaning it didn't topple to the side, free fall speeds, not ones, not twice, but three times with the third one, not being hit by anything. Just spiked it right there. Forget everything else that, that's in the trading and the, and the chainy and, just that, that alone, this is where we start. This is just like, this is Andy Carr telling me, I don't believe Bush knew anything, see that look right there? He was reading my pet goat. This is called plausible deniability. I don't think he was shocked,

9:17because I think he knew there's some pretty ruthless people out there. I don't think he knew anything, and they wanted to keep it like that. Same thing goes for chainy. Nobody knows anything. He might have had suspicions, he might have whatever, but he, and he was trying to add cool in front of those kids. All right, remember that day? So let me just start off the right off from the back. This is just like Tyler Robinson, 30-06, everything else. The bottom line is, John, for the love of God, don't fight me on this. Don't fight me on this. That doll don't hunt. I mean, this is as simple as it is. That's the premise. So what they're doing today is, they're saying, Zoran Mamdani, he's the mayor of New York City. He and those Muslims and those radicals, how dare you. They might have said some terrible things about it. Some people said things like, well, I heard something happened on 9-11,

10:17but I'm asking the question. If it was indeed the Muslims or the Arabs, whoever the hell these people were, how the hell they wire the building? These guys are good. How do you do that? Now that's number one. Remember, there's building North Tower, South Tower, building seven. That's in the morning. A little bit later on, the Pentagon. Honey, handjord. Who the hell is that? That's the pilot. How do we know his name? I don't know. He flew six feet off the ground. Left to what? A 16 foot hole. Looks just like a cruise missile. Whatever to me. Remember that one picture? That's the plane. That's the plane. There was no. Did you see that the rings of the Pentagon, they had this one, the final ring where it punched through. This plane made a basically aluminum, went through six rings. Where are the planes? Where's everything? Where's the engine six ton titanium? Where are the people? What, what, what six feet off the, what?

11:19And also remember, Washington is probably the most photograph city in the world. People have cameras left and right. And on the Pentagon, I do a guy one time who was at the Pentagon and he was lost. All of a sudden he couldn't find his car. He said like, Jesus, where the hell am I going? I was like, I was like, freeze. I'm just, I'm praying. This thing, everything is wired. No cameras there. They removed all the cameras from the sit-go station and I mean, it was beautiful. So that's number two. And by the way, Sean, how do you know? How do you know the name of the guy? Hello, yes, this is Hanih Hanjur for posterity. H, yes, Hanih, yes. I'm the pilot. Okay. And how do these people make all of these calls? If you're going to plane and you're trying to call people, sometimes they're a little bit better. You can get a message, but they're making all these phone calls. Anyway, that's the Pentagon. But the best is Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

12:23There's no plane there. Let me say that again, you heard me. There's no plane. The debris was found a mile and a half to eight miles away in the place called either New Baltimore or Indian Lake. That's where the debris field was. Sean, as you well know, these planes have six ton titanium engines, wheels, wings, beverage carts, people, luggage, winters, rudders, you name it, wheels. And look at the picture. Go to flight 93, Shanksville, Pennsylvania. And you see a little fire truck, couple of guys with white suits, maybe some steam. And that's it. So the first time I was on the air, I was on a radio show, I was looking to sing up because I didn't know where the hell these things were. They said, Shanksville, I said, what else? Shanksville, I don't know. Take the last plane to Shanksville. I don't know where this was. This is the pencil. So I'm looking for this.

13:23So I'm pulling this up and I keep seeing this picture. I keep seeing this picture. I'm saying, where's the plane? Because it's stupid me. I'm looking for a plane like we always see. Do you ever see a plane crash? We see where's the plane? I mean, if it's not underwater or something, but no, you always see it. It's fire and smoke and man. And somebody called me up and then I said, what are you getting at? I said, what am I getting at? So anyway, so people, and what happens, Shanksville, I'm sure you've seen this before. That's what I say. That's what I say. This is their buying terms of this. It's like this is brain flatulence that takes over. I say, and they make things up. They'll say like, well, see, the plane is going so fast. See, straight down, it just atomize. It just disintegrated. Six ton titan, yeah. Or they say, well, you know, you know, Pennsylvania, they do a lot of mining. They have coal mines and the ground is like powder, see?

14:27And the plane just got sucked up into the, what? What? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. And then they said, what about the engines? Well, you know, there was a breeze that day. A breeze, five ton, six ton titan, but they just make things up. And I'm saying, why are you so enslaved by the official narrative? What are you, are you on the payroll? What do you need to know? Why is there, you see Sean, if that's your real name? It's not the government we're fighting. It's the citizens. It's the self-styled skeptics and these people who don't want to believe in, you know, conspiracy theories. I want to take these people and, you know, I don't know what I want to do with them, but I want to say what in the hell

15:30is the matter with you? I don't understand this. To this day. But, but because, so this is what I realized, oh my God. Oh my God. Now, I got to tell you something though, was very interesting. When it happened, it was a Tuesday morning. It was as beautiful a blue sky as I've never seen anything like it, never. And I was on the phone with my father, my late father at the time and I said, you know, you're not going to believe this. But I said, there was a fire at the World Trade Center. I just happened to have this local station on. And I said, well, you know, I guess that happens. And then the, I think it was the weather girl says, no, no, re-wrack it, watch this video. No, I saw a plane and sure enough, at the bottom right, you see this thing going, I said, ah, that's weird, a plane. And then there was a second plane.

16:33Now, I don't know about you, but I didn't say, I don't know why. I didn't think terrorism. I wasn't thinking anything. Then they said the Pentagon had that, okay, all righty. Now we're on to something. Inpracing story. There was a man who was, you know, fooling around on his wife. And he was, you know what I mean? Little bit of that, little bit of that. And he was at Brighton Beach or someplace. And he was supposedly working. He was originally a security guard or something at the World Trade Center. But anyway, but he was with his Guamada, you know, his gal and his wife suspects he's, I mean, calls him up. And then morning he says, how you doing? He says fine. She says, I got that something. How's everything done? They're fine. Are you going on? No, pretty quiet. Okay. Put on the TV. Huh? Put on the TV. What channel? Any channel?

17:33And he realized that SEC's his place. Son of a- that's a sad note. When this happened, New York had an attitude. I've never seen it. polite, no honking, no nothing. Please cross the street. No, take your time. On some ways, oh, after you, no after you. It was wild. There was a fellow in a cab. He had a, you know, a turban. And he went to have like a professionally this, this science said, this is I am Sikh. You know, I said, listen, Pally. If I were to say, I'm not an Arab or they know what a Sikh is, they have no idea. But everybody was selling everything. America, America, the flags, the flags, America. They're all foreign. But everybody was, I mean, times, the ant was like you can't believe we had the big, conservative, maddest square garden. And if you were a fireman, see, I live here, I was in in Hell's Kitchen. That's on the west side.

18:34And there's famous for great Irish pubs and Irish bars and everybody went to bar. Everybody, you got your neighborhood joint. This is where you are. Oh, that's your own, yeah. Well, he drinks, that's your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, so anyway, so we were there. And all of us met that day. The people from the neighborhood went into the pub. And one woman she gave me, she was downtown. She had the dust, she didn't realize it. If anybody walked in any fireman, there was a guy who worked cranes. If you had a world trace at her lanyard, you didn't buy a drink. You were a hero. So what happened was the saddest thing. This, this to me still kills me. We're wherever there's a building that's missing or they're adding something or they're, whatever they're doing. If there's any construction, they, people put up signs, showing pictures of their loved ones, at weddings or funerals or parties, birthday parties. And it says, have you seen this person?

19:36Have you seen them? Like they're lost. Like they're not going to come home. Like they just need a little nudging. Like can you, if you've seen this person, it was like, oh my god. Because you just, okay, then you had people, you had, and I'm talking correctly, they were giving out death certificates, a little quick. Under American law, if you're dead or if you're missing for like seven years, you're presumed to be dead, you can probate the will to all those up. They were doing this automatically. So it was believed that some people who were, you know, on the lamb or just wanted to just take off, start a new life or cash, you know, life insurance policy, they just, you know, they were just, they took off. It was very interesting too, because Mayor Giuliani and others were asking that all of this steel, this is very expensive, very good money, be carted off to this place from Staten Island, called Fisch Fisch Kills, I believe,

20:36and then they were, they sent them to China, and they were singing the time, no, no, no, no, no, we have to go through that. That's a review, there's DNA and they said, no, no, no, get rid of this. They cleaned that thing up so fast. Later on, I talked to people, I know, firemen, a lot of cops. In fact, our neighborhood bar, which is since closed, but it was all FBI, New York City Police, fire, ATF, everybody. They said weeks later, there were fires underneath that were just like, I don't know what, 2, 1200 degrees, they said, this doesn't make any sense. That was strange. Then, then, I had a friend of mine who's a radiologist, and he said, why would there be thyroid cancer? He says, unless it was something radiological, he says, you don't just get that from asbestos. And there were other theories that said maybe,

21:37remember, there were some Judy Wood had her direct energy weapon theory, Richard Gage had his thermite theory, you know, there's different, different ways. And there was another fellow, a Russian, I recall correctly, who said that he believes there might have been something that was low, some type of low yield, something of a nuclear, that nation, because pictures underneath of the ground, it was like polish, like glass, and only high heat can cause that, which might have explained these fires that were going on forever. I mean, we will never know. See, nobody was interested in this. Nobody. There were people who jumped out. It was tragic beyond anything. And there were some people who, just, this was a big, they just never came home. Nobody, they didn't announce, they didn't tell their family. By the way, I'm going to the World Trade Center.

22:37There was, I mean, there was a lot of stuff going on. So it was incredible. Now, downtown, this is downtown Manhattan, where this happened. It was a no-man's land. The greatest chefs in the world, Michelin's drain, I mean, the best, they had canteens and soup kitchens and feeding the work. I mean, they had the best food. I mean, this is terrible, but people came out. In this newsletter, by the way, I put it out, I hope your folks can follow. Anyway, there's, they had this local, I thought this was so interesting. They had a local newsman. He said, what the following, what we need is this. Batteries, batteries for phones, because this was just 25 years ago. Phone batteries, but also we need, they said, oh, bottled water and booties, like baby booties for the dogs, for the cadaver dogs

23:41and the dogs that go through it, because of the sharks, I had never thought about this. So later on, I said to myself, did I hear that? Did I hear, and somebody said, yeah, I heard the same thing too. It was the strangest people just said, what can we do? I want you to imagine Manhattan, it's like, I don't know, miles or so across. It's very small, but it's dense. From the Hudson River and the West to the East River on the East, this long 57th Street, it's just straight across. I walked out on, I remember that night looking and everybody stood in doorways with that candle. They had the paper plate with a candle as far as the eye could see it and nobody said anything. They were just handing a people word just. It was, I saw, I'm not gonna use a word, surreal, but it was real.

24:41And Sean, the smell, do you ever have an electric motor like a vacuum cleaner or something? It does that, and it smells like metallic burning. That's what everything smelled like. That's what it smelled like. The stories are, oh, listen to this. Everybody's got, the stories are unbelievable. This is one, this is, I know this friend, of a friend that I talked to him and it was his daughter. She was going to a school downtown and she said she thought the world was coming to an end. She didn't, and she said, no, it sounds crazy now. She just exploded fire. Imagine every siren of every car, of every fire truck police, every siren going on. It's wild. So she was leaving and heading uptown towards Harlem,

25:41up, up, up, you know. People who own bodegas and little stores would take out their change thread because remember there was no cellular services down, they said, here, take the couriers of quarters. There's a pay phone here, a pay phone there. People were trying to reach anybody to say, I'm okay. She was walking and a man came up behind him and said, come on, you're not moving fast enough. Let's go because they don't know if they're going to, because when you've got a building in that high, it falls, you don't know, you don't do the math. You don't say, well, that seems to be, no, that, you just run, your head is spinning and people are screaming in this silence. As he's pulling her and she eventually got in front of him because she's a little bit younger, she's pulling him. She says, what's going on? And she looks and I'm trying to clean this up. Something fell, something came up, glass, I don't know what, and, and she's had to take his hand and pull it off him and run.

26:44Now this, she's just, what? I mean, they're, they're just, when they stopped running, it was like, if I told you, I don't know if it means anything. They're like in Harlem, almost in the Bronx. I mean, they just ran and ran. My God, it was like something that, it was, nobody's ever seen this before. It was war, we were at war. And the fireman, there's a fire station, not too far from where David Letterman's, you know where Colbert was, the Ed Sullivan Theater, on 53rd, whatever, and Broadway right there. Anyway, there was a fire house. And they never came back. The entire house gone, just they never came back. And the altruism, I don't wanna mention some of the, there were some famous stars who bought fire trucks for people.

27:49I mean, I'm not gonna mention their names, but because they were very, nobody almost tear up. Nobody, nobody was acting like a big shot. They said, no, no, no, no, just, I mean, it was something and the solidarity. It was like nothing you've ever seen. It remembered the time in Tehran. They had to have candlelight vigil for us. Putin bent over backwards and said, listen, I know where these bastards are. They're in the caucuses, I know. They also try to help us when we had the Boston Marathon Bombers, the flying Zarnaya brothers, speed bump and flashbang as a, how he car calls it, anyway. But people just loved us. Reminds me, I don't wanna bring this into up, but it reminds me of Israel after I'm talking to the summit. The whole world said, where were you? Those, you know, they say, whoa.

28:50And people have this sense of, oh, no, no, no, you don't do that. And then later, why don't we find out, well, in our reaction. So what if we do right away, we went straight to, you know. I don't wanna politicize it, but it seems like, all right. So the, the, the, the, quote, conspiracies didn't come in. By the way, there's some funny thing, I shouldn't say this. Did you have this, did you have the color coded, the color systems? Today is color coded red, what's that? Oh, yeah. That's bad. What are we now, short truce? What the hell was that? Green, give me green. Green is green, green is good, right? Okay, green, yellow, no, not good. Who orange, oh God. Red. So they were, this one poor guy, you're gonna get wrapped his house and like, cellophane is house. And they said, you're gonna die. You know, anyway, I mean, people didn't know what the hell they did. No, what to do.

29:51They, nobody knew what. People were, this is the greatest part. They pilgrimage is huge swaths of people going over the Brooklyn Bridge and just, just walking. And this is the weirdest thing. People that would not normally be speaking to each other. Black kids and, you know, hard hats and construction worker. Everybody looked at each other and I swear to God, it was, what the? Everybody just looked at each other. That was it. Everybody, people talked to each other and then it was like, did you lose anybody? Did you lose anybody? It was unbelievable. And the greatest, the greatest performance of anyone was Rudolph Giuliani. They hated this guy on September the 10th, like you can't believe. The cops hated him. That teacher's hated him. When people didn't like, gay people liked him. He was, he had left his wife.

30:52You know, you left your wife. And he was bunking and it was, it was like, a couch, a, sharing a couch with a gay couple. I mean, it was like, I don't know. They said, what do you do? They couldn't stand this guy. Ta-da-da, Rudy. And he said, come on, let's go. And he said, he was phenomenal. There was a story, there was a woman that he promised. He said, I will walk you down the aisle. And she said to him, look, I know you probably can't do this. Now, he says, nonsense. A promise is a promise. Let's go. So he has his control, his, his command car. He gets into his truck seato. He walks her down. Thank you, kiss back into the guy never slept. He was unreal. He was everybody. Love this guy. I mean, I've never seen leadership like this before. Come on, we're gonna, we can do it New York. Come on, we can do it. And I mean to tell you, it was, I don't know what,

31:52there was no crime. There was no nothing. You break into somebody's house. Now, oh, they'll have summary justice on the corner. It was, I hate to say this, Sean. I'm glad I was here. I'm glad it was. I was sure what that had happened. But I have never seen anything like that. And then we started to look around. And like I told you, that was my red pill day. I was a babe in the woods. And I said, you know, I'm not, I'm here. And I'm not seeing this. What do you mean? What's the matter with you? You're crazy. It was like, they had the, they had the notion of a, of an evil that if you were to say, well, I don't know if that happened that way. I'm telling people, I never said it was our government. I never said it was an inside job. I never said, Bush did, I never said any of that.

32:53I'm saying you're an narrative. This jet fuel stuff is ridiculous. It's not true. It cannot happen. It can't, it just doesn't do that. They've had buildings in burn for days. Interestingly enough, the empire state building was hit by a B19, whatever it was hit by a bomber. Things stood up. They're like, ah, nothing burned. And, you know, nothing happened. What happened was they said, yes, but these, how do I say this? These buildings, these, how do I say this? These were also designed to withstand because it's in the, it's in the traffic. You know, we have three airports. We have Newark Airport, LaGuardia and Kennedy. Those are the big airports. So it's kind of at the base of Manhattan. So maybe you could have a, you know, you don't get near this thing anyway. But they said, but it was designed to withstand that.

33:56The structure of this thing was, I mean, you can't believe it. If you ever looked at the cord, there's a base and there's all this. I went to Cooper, Cooper Union. This is a famous institution here in New York. It's where Abraham Lincoln spoke. And that was a guy there from university, check him out. University of Alaska. He did a computer study of building seven. And he said, no way, no way. It's just, no, this is, not everybody knows it. Sean, there are things you know. You've seen it a million times. You've seen, I don't know, like in Las Vegas, whenever they have a new casino, they always, you've seen this before. You've seen splat, splat, splat, squibs. I don't know. Why am I not supposed to say, wait a minute, that's what happened. And for all we know, maybe it wasn't inside job. Maybe inside job from the, from the terrorist point of view. Maybe they did it this way. I don't know who did it.

34:57That has something to do with this. Just like if I said, you I don't believe the story about Lee Harvey Oswald, I can't tell you who did it. But I can tell you that the official narrative doesn't make any sense. You see what I'm saying? It's, it's a, it's a different. It's completely different. All of this stuff, all of this, they really came out hardcore against anybody who dared to even question the narrative. And I just double down. I double down and he can't believe because I still could not believe that there were people who were actually seriously, theoretically, not even questioning this. Not even, I still can't believe it. I still can't believe it. Not even sig, not even thinking for a moment that this made no sense whatsoever. I think I'm, I don't know if I can make this any clearer, but it just, it blows my mind. Absolutely positive.

35:57So you've had several questions come in. I hope so. And one of them is if Mohammed Atta was on a suspicious people list, how did he get on the plane? That's from Miami, Murray. Not only that, I don't know whether it was Atta's passport. How did these things survive a fire? How did they survive being on the ground? You've got a passport, all right? Put it in my pocket. I've got it, but I'm in the plane. I'm in the plane. It's all me. The plane goes into the building, boom. And I'm going to what throw this out the window. I don't know how anybody would find it. There was a better one that was even, that was even more ridiculous. Years later, there was a, I don't remember where, it was, there was a controversy regarding a, an Islamic center downtown Manhattan. It was a big controversy because it was near ground zero. And they were going crazy about it.

36:58It was in, it was called part 51. And it was, what year was this? I forget, I'm looking right now. And any event, they went berserk. They said, you cannot, okay, this was in 2010, 2010. So listen to this. So imagine they have buildings that are kind of near each other. Sometimes there's a little bit of a space or there's big. They found in 2010, the gear housing or the landing gear of a jet that had, they missed. And it was between, and if I stood over this and I said, how do I drop, let's say it fell from the, how do I even get it? And I thought you have got to be, and people, they don't ask any questions. That's my problem. How do they suspend common sense reality?

38:03How, I mean, you don't have to, you don't have to be a pilot to know this. Nine years, people walked by this, everything is it, what is that? Now I think, okay. You know, it looks like a, like a landing gear. Now just keep going, okay. You sure, it's almost embarrassing. It's like, you're pulling this on me. You're pulling this on me. Now remember, where are we today? It's a wonderful resurgence of this anti-Muslim, anti-Islam, Islamofacist, probably not even actually more on this, this screaming and the people, then they, you know, interesting that that's the perfect narrative that we're hearing regarding the Middle East. We must continue on our program, the Middle East, because these people, and don't forget 9-11. You see how it's all, and I'm thinking, I'll wait a minute.

39:04Now hold on a second. Sometimes it's true. Sometimes we have our mayor, Zoran Mamdani, who's not even nobody can pronounce him. He might not, he might hire the wrong people. He had some cleric who was in law. He had somebody who was some lawyer. He may not be the most broken-hearted over 9-11. I'll give you that. But that doesn't mean anything. He was, this was 25 years ago. I don't know how old he was then, but he's not been eight years overall, I know. But you see where the meme is. You see this guy Rob Schneider, you know, he's his comedian. I'm a conservative, and for years I wasn't a lot. He was an SNL and Rob Schneider. And of course there was a picture of this poor man jumping out of the building, and he said, the Arabs and the Muslims and the Islam,

40:04and I said, how do you know this? How do you know this? Let's go back. Do you remember initially when Ben Laden said, I didn't have nothing to do with this. Remember this, and then later on he changes mine. It was like two or three times, he said, you do over these, I don't know anything about this. Remember the picture when they had that picture, when they showed, remember the dark Ben Laden, the light Ben Laden, they had him one time, there's one picture where he said, he looks almost black, he looks black or Punjabi, and they gave him a rifle and he's right handed, he's normally left handed, and there's all this stuff. George Bush was meeting with one of them of the Ben Laden family, I mean, there's all of this internecine stuff that's going on, and the bottom line is simply this, and the question everybody has to ask is, start off with the question I gave you. Do you believe the official narrative as far as Jeff Ful, because even then people would say, you know,

41:04if you were indeed, if the story were true, that they took these planes, flew in, and they couldn't have believed that they would have brought the buildings down. Remember in 93 or whatever it was, when they had the explosion underneath, they had the first World Trade Center, the blind shake, and there's a ram's at use of it, I forget his name, but they said, when they were flying him back, or something when he was in the helicopter, he looked out supposedly and said, ah, we didn't get it this time. Now whether he said this or not, I don't know. But they said from an engineering point of view, and a lot of these people like Richard Gage with architects and engineers from 9-11 Truth, and a variety of other people that said, if that's really what you want to do, if you want to bring this down, this plane isn't going to do it. You're going to have to hit the basic supports, and to have it fall.

42:08Sure, I don't know. That means there's zero resistance. That means there's nothing, the 92nd floor, the 91st floor, the 90th, the 80th, they're all gone. So there's nothing that stops the buildings, and they stop because the building is still there. It has to be, and it's not a matter of picking up acceleration, or I don't want to go into that. Listen, where we have rudimentary understandings about physics and architecture. But the story is even more far-fetched now. Not only that, the Pentagon, you've got to see, you've got to drive around and just look and see the Pentagon, this highway, this right there. I've seen it a million times, and I'm thinking, how did they do this? A plane flying to, and this guy, one wrong move, and he hits the ground, and it bounces, I mean, wheels up, and you're like this, six feet,

43:08and it'll leave a small hole in there, and to go through, even the story. Now remember, let me just remind you something, have you remember Operation North Woods? Did you remember that one? Yeah. This is the one that people told me. Now, what is that about? During the Kennedy administration, this was not approved, but they wanted to do this, and you can see the official declassified plan. Hidden that sauce early, are we? Anyway, so they were gonna, this was not carried through, but the theory behind it was that they, this was of course, we wanted to engage Castro and do a false flag with Castro. Anyway, so they would take a plane, and they would have a university, students, a volleyball team, or something, get on it. These are all CIA family members, Spooks, whatever it was. They'd say, goodbye, and they take off,

44:10let's say from Miami, and they take off, and they go to Egleneur Forest Base, and they land. As far as you know, they're on their way to Puerto Rico, wherever they are. Now, the plan was they would have a drone that had all of the, a drumming, and an empty kind of an unmanned plane that had some decals and signature, and they would detonate it, and they would blame Castro for this. They would say, you did this, you blew up this plane, and that would be our entree into going to war, recueba. That's not familiar? Take a plane, have people on it, have them. Now, where do these people are? I've no idea. I've no, but this was a mentality of us then. Now, those people are still there, not the same people, but the same mentality, the same way of thinking. Now, I remember one thing, I want you to understand this.

45:12Like what somebody says, we need more likes. Thank you there, has a bear. Makes you feel pathetic, doesn't it? Dot, damn it, he's doing the best he can. Come on, sheriff's not the greatest show, but what are you gonna do? Anyway. But whenever somebody asks, if you heard these questions, well, where are the people? Well, what happened? I said, look, it's not my story, it's your story. I don't know where it is. I mean, it's not a strong man, but I'm supposed to tell you where everybody is. I said, I don't know about anybody. I know that the jet fuel story, I'm not buying. The rest of it, I have no idea. I'm not here to debunk everything. I just have a question, but they'll never answer that question. They'll say, okay, so what's your problem? Well, where are we? What about this question, Lionel from Sarah? Larry Silverstein bought the tower, has got it insured, double insured, et cetera. Double insured because they said it first. This was a dog because of the asbestos, and it was a dog.

46:13And they said, the insurance company was gonna say, it was thanking Adley, it was one, he said it was one event. And he said, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's not what happened. It's two. So he got the double insured. There was also something worth silver. By the way, there's no, I have absolutely no. But it's named as Silverstein or Silverstein, and they said, ah-ha, he's Jewish. And of course, there's that connection, which again, you're on your own with that one. But he supposedly said, and you can hear him, as far as building 70s, as well, there was so much loss, we decided to pull it or something to that effect. And that has, as George Bush would say, that resonated with people forever. Pull it, what do you mean pull it? What does that mean? Pull it? Pull what? What are you talking about? So it was a very, very interesting, interesting.

47:18But there was also the case of- Wasn't he supposed to be in the towers, as well, on that day? Well, he was supposedly, he's there normally every day, but something happened. There was a lot of people who, you know, one day, they had to go to a doctor's office, something they just weren't there. So I don't know, but they've always pointed to him. But I'm saying, that's great. Come up with something. Don't just point to the fact that he's there. There were also these people called the Dancing Israelis. There was apparently these people who were celebrating. Well, okay. And they were from Israel. And they seemed to be at a place across either a Liberty Park, across in like Jersey City, across the Hudson, where you can see directly, it was almost like they were waiting for the app. So they say, and then they were pulled over, they were deported, and then they went back. So I don't know. It looks fishy as hell. Why are people dancing or looking excited? There's a lot of people who were. There was a lot of people who weren't.

48:21So that was one of those things. People were just looking at the majority of the people, though, were absolutely heartbroken. Oh, you also hear these stories. I can't tell you. You know, every day I'd go there with my, get my bagel and coffee, this little food store, right, little food cart, there he is. The fire. That's the Dancing Israelis. The Dancing Israelis. I've got their latest album, anyway. So they have the story about how every day I would go and then they get my coffee and bagel, and for one reason or another, he's not there that day. And then we hear these stories about people, families, who all of a sudden just got up and left in the middle of the night. I don't know how true these are, but I've heard a bunch of stories like that. Again, I don't know. See, I don't run with some. I don't put a therefore, I don't know what that means. It's like, well, that's interesting. Let's pursue it. Maybe probably cause. That's not reasonable doubt.

49:22Let's just go, let's look at this. Let's figure out more about it. It's not what I'm not telling you what this means. I don't know what it means. People always swore to, it was Bush. He knew it. How did he know it? He just, I don't do that. He could. It might be, I don't know though. I don't know. When you have, oh, here, another thing too is, do you know how many, this is the best book? Do you know how many drills there were? Say what you want about these Arab terrorists, but they picked a great day. Do you know how many drills were going on? Operation, vigilant warrior, operation. Look at how many you're talking about. Of all the days to have this, to have a drill for hijacking when all of the jets are out, ones in Alaska, ones here, and say, hey, we need you. There's a hijacking.

50:23Wait a minute. Is this a hijacking or is this the drill? It's real. Wait a minute. Isn't that what you're supposed to say? So as you know, whenever there are drills, they go hot sometimes in war. You bring them up to the border and then they say, now we're here. We're not threatening you. We're just having a drill. So that was always something we were somebody talked about. There was the case of, I mean, so much. The 9-11 commission was a joke. Remember Norman Maneta, who testified, he said, I said, Mr. Vice President, they're coming in. They're, let's, you wish you to stand down order. We can take this plane out and he's, no. And you can see it. You know, you can, and then later on, of course, there's a, how about the fact that they, that President Bush at the time, he would testify, but not alone, and not under road, then they had to have to change you there. And you come on.

51:24They asked, kind of, these are rights. Did you have any reason to suspect maybe this might be their modality? She says, well, we did have a PDB, Presidential Daily Briefing, one time entitled, terrorists, you know, planning to attack up building. I mean, she basically spelled it out. And how about Alex Jones? He called it its eerie. It's eerie. How did people know Ben Laden? How did people know that name? How, and he said, this is what they're gonna do, they're gonna blame this. I gotta tell you something. When you go back and watch it, and you listen to what those cops said, like, for example, why would they say, building seven is gonna fall? Why? Wasn't hit by anything? These buildings are structured to be, to withstand earthquakes and everything.

52:25What's it, hit by? You've got a common sense question from Brian on that very subject. Would the buildings have fallen if they were hit at the base instead of the top? You're asking somebody who is not an engineer, but I will tell you, I know a little bit about common sense and it would seem to me that if you get something at the base, if you ever take him blocks, you know, this versus this. I mean, I don't know. That's why it was suggested that. Even Ziggy could figure that one out. Yes. And there was this one Russian fellow who said that there was something, might have been, as they say, nuclear, that might have been at the bottom, which caused basically the buildings just to just fall, that it was underneath. That's real easy to do. Versus, you know, these squibs and you gotta, there was a Marvin Boone, one of the Bush brothers

53:26owned the security company. It was a Marvin, it was one of them. And there was one weekend where they were closed, where they had to do maintenance work. You know, I don't know, this is tough. You've got to wire this stuff. It's very, very serious. So that could very well be. But the problem is, is that you and I can talk about this all day long. Now, remember, people like Richard Gage and others who looked at this thermite, they looked at the actual, this oxidized steel and iron and all this. They have reasons for it. They said this looks like something that was done industrially. Now, there's another one too, is here's something interesting. I think I, I don't know if I told you this, I've talked about this. If this is a column and I'm, if I have a shape charge like a thermite and it goes straight across here, that's not good because the top just, it just stays there. It's cut, but the weight, it doesn't move.

54:27But if I cut it this way on the side, this top will slide off. And that's what you want. You want that cut at the angle. So I remember when they were doling out pieces of steel to libraries and sometimes people would say, can we have some twisted metal for, yeah, and they, somebody, one time, I don't know if they still had it. But the piece of metal that they had showed that kind of a, and that's why you need to, to evaluate and analyze. That's why they needed the steel. Can we see the steel, can we look at it? Can we see if there's any signs of oxygenation, can we see, and they said, it's gone. You got to get rid of it. You got to clean this up. Why do you want to clean this up? And they got to go back to the idea. There are people now suffering from cancer, all kinds of respiration problems. I mean, and they, they, radiologic thyroid cancer. Other things too, that's not the stuff you get when it's just asbestos or there's something radiologic,

55:28they're gamma rays, something, don't hold me too, but no, a friend of mine who was a radiologist, there's something going on there. This is not the usual, I will never know. He's nobody's. A bush, bush told him the earth was safe, get back to work. Let me just, oh, the lady, the lady, the lady at the time. From EPA, she was a governor of New Jersey. And she said, it's all safe down there. That and they did it. They did it and they, and the people who, by the way, they still have ads running a local TV. Were you downtown 25 years ago, they were doing settlements, they're doing laws who still 25 years later. Here are many people were there. Thousands and that, what do you mean there? It's a very tiny area. It's not, let me get your thoughts on the official version of the surviving passports. So four passports belonging to the hijack have survived in whole or in part, because the initial explosions, blue light weight items clear of the main destruction zones,

56:31all because the documents were inside luggage that missed the flights. What do you think about that statement? Good, nice try. I mean, that's, why would they have their passport in the luggage? You have it with you. You always want to have it with you, you don't have to have anything. You don't want to put it in a bag that may have been lost. And so remember inside, here's my thing, let's assume this is my passport and I'm going to put it in my pocket. Versus, I'm going to take it and as the plane flies into the building, I'm going to throw it. There's a hole there and it's got to go out of the plane, out of the building, outside, land and not a mile away from the wind, but intact. Did they do this just stuff with us? I mean, I don't know this. You've got to be kidding me. I mean, seriously, how about the people who were, the fellow, I think it was Honey Hondur. He wanted to run a plane, they said, I'm just going to run a plane, you can't fly.

57:32I remember this guy was Minnesota. There was a colleague, was it Raleigh or something? He was a, she was the FBI agent and she said, these guys, why did these people, they don't want to learn how to land. It's like the old Kamikaze joke. It's easy to teach Kamikaze, why? Because you don't have to teach them how to land. Well, it's kind of like that. There were all these signs, you know, that they were in Orlando, whatever, they were in the strip clubs and they were supposedly devout. And there's all this, I don't know if that's even relevant because I think sometimes they throw out a lot of additional information just to confuse it. I go back to the original, critical thinking, question number one, do you believe the story about jet fuel, kerosene? Either because of the combustion or because, like it's loose and it's like fire, it's like lava shone, it just seeps down through the crevices and goes to the main, you've ever seen a main support? Look at these main support and on fire, it also took out all of the supports,

58:3630, 40, 50 floors below because in order for you to have free fall, there's gotta be no resistance. How do I get rid of the resistance? Have you ever played a, what's that, jango, whatever it is? Play it with Ziggy. If all of a sudden you pull this thing out, it falls. But if you pull one out and it falls, provided it's done right, it just stops. You gotta pull, so if you wanted to fall, you've gotta make sure you pull all of those little, those floors out as it falls. This isn't even, this is just common sense. This is not even, you know, not only that, the dust themselves, it was called pyro-classic. Normally, if I take a cinder block and I drop it, when it hits the ground it turns into powder. This would turn into powder when I drop it. Say this thing was almost, why were beams shot out to 300 feet like, pow, pow, what is this about? Now, again, I don't have to be an expert to this.

59:36It's like people who say, do you know about geoengineering? They're spraying something. I know this isn't water. I don't have to go to school to learn this is not water. This is not water vapor. Come on, I'm not saying it on my next purchase. Prove me wrong, answer my question. They won't do it. Because you, Sean, are what you're a conspiracy theorist. You, you're an anti-submite, you're a racist, you're a homophobic, you're a transphobic. They always tell you what you are. They never answer the question. You know, they have, if you go to your doctor and he asked you for the bills, I'll tell you how dare you. You're nothing but a grub, you're a pain me. Oh, how dare, it doesn't work in any other walk of life. When you walk away from responsibility by calling the guy, a bad name is that you're an idiot. Maybe, now, pain me, answer my question. It's the weirdest thing. And we do it with health emergencies. We do it with wars. We never learned. That laid the groundward.

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