Serial Killer Documentary - James Dusty Rhodes - Prison Interview

0:00This is Matt Rogers from Lost Culture East. It's with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Lost Culture East. It's with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. You know when people try a new food and suddenly it's like, okay, hold on. I got a new favorite food. That's the reaction a lot of people are having when they first try Cupid Mayon. Yeah, it's the one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. You've probably seen it at the grocery store. And this mayo is different. Mm-hmm. Most mayonnaise uses whole eggs. Cupid only uses egg yolks, which gives it this rich umami flavor. It's smoother, deeper, almost buttery. Once people try it, they start putting it on everything. Egg sandwiches, fries, burgers, chefs use it, restaurants use it, people who really care about flavor use it, put it on just about anything. Then you'll understand. Cupid, the original Japanese mayonnaise. This week at Vons and Albertsons, USDA Choice Tried Tip Rose untrimmed are 599 per pound, limit four rows with membership wear applicable, and medium-ripe, half-sofficados are 99 cents each, with membership wear applicable. Plus Kellogg Cereals 8.8 to 16.1 ounces,

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2:14Every interview is a different opportunity, and I treat every interview as very special and very unique. My role is to bring out information on these crimes, so we can all learn from him. The purpose of working in this unit was to study violent crime and the kinds of people who commit these crimes. All in an effort to assist law enforcement throughout the world, to identify these offenders, to interview them, and to successfully prosecute them. My specialty was working with violent offenders, serial killers, psychopaths. I worked on the Unibomor case. I worked on the JC DuGard case. I've worked on Gary Ridgeway, the Green River murder case. Now she delves into the mind of James Dusty Rhodes, who was serving four consecutive life sentences for murder,

3:16attempted murder, kidnapping, and sexual battery. At the time that Dusty was out and walking the streets, he was extremely dangerous. He was lethal. He was absolutely lethal. On a scale of one to five, you definitely have to put Dusty at a five. I'm military trained. If I want to hurt you, I can do this in a matter of seconds. The look that he gave me was actually chilling. When you hear the term, the hair goes up on the back of your neck. It went up on the back of my neck. A person should be able to feel safe to do as they please, but the reality is, everywhere you go, there is somebody out there. I think that most people who become victims, become victims because they are not aware of just how easy they are, or are vulnerable they are, to attack. They feel comfortable in their environment and they should,

4:19but that's not the reality of our world. I preach that to my own daughters. There are people out there at all times who are a threat to you. Whether you see them or not, and unfortunately at one time I was one of those people. In this case, I looked at who were the victims that he was selecting, and what was that selection process? The more you understand the victim, the more you'll understand about the offender. All of Rhodes' victims are strangers to him. Selected randomly when they urge strikes. These did appear to be victims of opportunity. In the case of Dusty, he begins to act out on unwilling victims, people that he actually kidnapped off the street and then acted out with his sexual fantasies. I knew she couldn't overpower me, obviously, which in all rape sets pretty much the case. The tool believes Rhodes' guilty of other crimes that he's never been charged with.

5:23In a career that started so young and had so many years to evolve, it would be unrealistic for us to think we had all of them. She hopes to extract his secrets. So, do we know everything about your criminal behavior? Have I done things that I should do, yes? James Dusty Rhodes is a 23-year-old drifter working in construction when he commits his first rape and murder in Colorado. He doesn't look the part. He's married with an infant daughter and another baby on the way, but lurking underneath his family man facade. He's a violent sexual predator. He just looked very normal, very typical, and he acknowledged that. He said, yes, I did look very normal, and that really enabled him to carry out the crimes that he committed. During my normal hours, when I was working and raising my family and all that, for most of the time I was rather normal. And people would look at me and all I saw was another husband, another father,

6:25another guy who worked for a living. Let me ask you this. After and after you would commit an attack, then you would go home to your wife and your children, and you had young children at home. What was that transition like? Well, because all of these happened at night. When I got home, they were generally, except for in one case, a sleep. And I would sneak in. They had no clue. I would sneak in, realizing after the fact that I'm covered in blood and two cases. And I need to hide what I'm doing, or I'm going to have issues here. His sadistic spree of attacks begins on a snowy night in Colorado Springs on December 7, 1982. Roads is in his car and is shopping mall parking lot, waiting for his wife to get off work. I'm there to pick up my wife. I've been drinking all day again. I've been at a strip joint all day again. And I've had sex on my mind all day again.

7:27My wife's not there. And then I see another woman walk out from a store directly in front of where my wife works at. It's snowing real, real hard. And she walks between her car and mine. And she comes around her car to scrape snow off the windows. She's got her back to me, my doors, this far from her. I snap. By open the door, I grabbed her and I pulled her in. When I pulled her in, she had hit her head on the doorframe. And it was a pretty loud knock. But then I pulled her over to council and put her in the seat. I then shut the door and I proceeded to drive away. Roads drives to a cemetery and gets the woman out of the car at knife point. He sexually assaulted. Right, eventually that's what happened. And she... The knife somehow came out of my pocket. It's now in her possession. And that's when I snapped.

8:28She gives me the knife. She held the knife up. I took it from her. She didn't give it to me. You took the knife from her. I took the knife. She held it up and said, here's your knife. He wants to imply that she hands that knife back to him, which I seriously doubt. And I snatched it from her immediately. From that very second it started stabbing her. The woman is stabbed at 15 times. And it leaves her to die and she does in fact die from her injuries. Her body is not found for... About a month. About a month. And then I would find out years later when I'm arrested that she didn't die from the stab wounds. She died from the fractured skull. And that's when I remember that her head hit the car. He's relieved, however, to find out, which is really interesting. That she died not from the stab injuries, but from the trauma to her head. No, you grabbed her. You caused her to bump her head. And then you stabbed her multiple times.

9:28So it was his reluctance to want to take ownership of that case. That I thought was really interesting. The victim lies in the cold snow for 28 days before she is found and identified as 23-year-old Cynthia McClure. A young mother who leaves behind a five-year-old girl. By then, Rhodes has made a clean getaway, skipping town with his wife and daughter, telling them it's time to move to find a new job. Cold-blooded nature of the murder has all the hallmarks of being the work of a psychopath. There's a profound lack of empathy and remorse for victims. If the offender is a psychopath, that means that they can put it behind them. He leaves Colorado and continues the assaults as he ultimately ends up in Florida. This is Steve Covino from Covino and Rich. All right, quick round of trivia before we get back into the show. But we're doing it differently this time. Every guy listening right now, you're contestant. No buzzers, no calling in. Just answer honestly to yourself.

10:28Here we go. You got a belly and a little chest that won't go away no matter what you try. Gast by the middle of the afternoon. No drive left in the tank. And lastly, you lack that confidence in mental edge. Fellowes, here's the thing. Those are classic signs that your testosterone has been sliding. And nothing drags it down faster than extra weight. The good news? Emerging research suggests that getting rid of it may actually be more effective than TRT. So why not take matters into your own hands? Strip off the weight that tanks your testosterone with Bioma GLP1 booster. Every serving is packed with science-backed and third-party tested ingredients that crank up your natural GLP1 production. So you can enjoy a leaner physique, surging energy, and increased drive. Visit bioma.health slash GLP1 and use code CRShow to get 15% off your first order. That's bioma.health slash GLP1 code CRShow for 15% off. This is Rick Burgess from the Rick Burgess Show. I want to talk to you for a second about something most of us put on autopilot, car insurance.

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12:30You know when people try a new food and suddenly it's like, wait. That's the reaction. A lot of people are having when they first try cutie mayo. It's the one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. You've probably seen it in the grocery store before. And if you've ever just walked past it, some people would say that's a huge mistake. Because this mayo is different. Most mayonnaise uses whole eggs. Cupid only uses egg yolks, which gives it this rich umami flavor. It's smoother, deeper, and almost buttery. Once people try it, they start putting it on everything. Egg sandwiches, fries, burgers, some fans even swear by dipping pizza crust in it. And once you notice it, you start seeing it everywhere. Chefs use it, restaurants use it. People who really care about flavor use it. Never try it. Grab the bottle with the red cap next time you're out of the store. Put it on just about anything. Then you'll understand. Cupid, the original Japanese mayonnaise. The fatal assault is just the beginning. Roads is about to start a string of perverted attacks on unsuspecting women.

13:32Will you a predator? I'd obviously become one, yes. James Dusty Roads, rapes and kills Cynthia McClune in a Colorado cemetery in December 1982. He quickly leaves town with his wife and infant daughter, eventually settling in St. Petersburg, Florida in 1984, where he begins a series of attacks and sexual assaults. I'm frustrated, and my drug of choice at the time was sex. I became a drug to me, and I decided to be blunt with you that I'm going to have sex. I'm going to have it right now. By day, Roads is a construction worker and family man, and soon his wife gives birth to their second daughter. But at night, he walks the streets of the beach side party town looking for victims. Sometimes he would follow women just to see them get afraid and not do anything, or sometimes he'd just stare at women to see if he could make them nervous just to watch their nervous reaction.

14:38Detective Paul Zetzelberger works in the St. Petersburg Police Department sex crimes unit during Roads' crime spree. He doesn't know it yet, but the case is about to consume her life. When the impulse would strike him and the opportunity was there, he would act. I'm looking at every female that I found attractive. Mary Ellen O'Toole is searching for the root causes of his violent sexual cravings. My wife and I were sexually active almost every single night for five years. With these kinds of crimes, there's never just one motive. There are multiple motives. His focus was to make sure that the victim understood that he was absolutely in control. You're following women and then targeting them. It really sounds very predatory. Do you know what I mean when I say you're a predatory? Would you agree with that? Yes, a lion's a little bit hungry, but he's not really on the hunt yet, but all of a sudden he sees a meal.

15:44And that's the same thing. That's what a predator does. A predator sees the opportunity and takes it and that makes you a predator. His first victim in Florida is sleeping in her apartment when Roads breaks in in the middle of the night. I saw a woman, I thought through a window and I opened the screen and I went upstairs. She was slaying down, sleeping. I pulled out a knife and I balker up. She went to try to scream, I think, and I covered her mouth. What is the expression on her face when she realizes there's a strange man standing in her bedroom? She's terrified. How many times? How can you tell that she looks like what you would see in a movie and somebody goes a bull around a corner with a knife in her hand. And you know, that's not something you're supposed to see when you're sleeping in your own home. She started to cry, the way she started to beg. That focus on the victim's reaction seemed to be an important element for him, like the surprise I gotcha.

16:49And that came up in subsequent explanations on other cases. And what were you doing at the time? At the time I was getting on top of her and raping her. And what was, what were you feeling at the time? Frustration, anger, rage. I was mad at myself. So you're saying that at the same time simultaneous with the sexual assault you were angry? I was angry with myself in an attempt to try to find pleasure in something that I somewhere deep inside obviously knew that there's no pleasure in because there is none. I mean, how can you have pleasure in terrifying somebody? He explained that he was very angry at the time and he was full of rage, but at the same time he was able to get an erection and ejaculate. So he was describing two heightened sense of arousal at the same time and we know that's not possible. This woman was a stranger to you, correct?

17:50Totally. The terror that she, that you think she was experiencing, did that add to your sexual excitement? No, I don't think so. I think it took away from it, which is what maybe you want to leave. But you wanted to leave after you completed the sexual assault. Yes, that's true. It's seeing that's the twisted way of looking at my own, my own thoughts. My thoughts are over here, over here, over here while I'm doing it. I can't make up my mind. He said that he was thinking at the time about feeling kind of sad about what he was doing, said about what he was doing, but he was able to complete the sexual assault. And again, doesn't make any sense. I think he didn't want to be seen as a sexual deviant. After the sexual assault, Rhodes leaves the apartment. Once again, he returns home to his wife and two daughters and conceals his crime. Once the sexual assault was completed, you left the residence, did you take anything with you?

18:54No. Did you go back to your home? No, directly to my house and hid. I would go home, clean myself up as quick as I could, and just clam out and stay in home as long as I could. The victim reports the rape to the police, but even with a description, Rhodes blends in so well he's not an obvious suspect. The most chilling is actually James Rhodes, if you were to meet him, would seem like just the normal guy, every day guy, the guy next door, a guy you could like, but inside him, there is danger. It's scary what's in there. Rhodes is soon back on the streets looking for more targets. Sex and violence come together in one's development. It's not that at 15 or 20 years of age, someone snaps and decides that rape is sexually gratifying. It's an evolutionary process and it starts at a very early age.

19:57And if there is the presence of traits of psychopathy, that could be genetic, but you also have nature and nurture. What kind of an environment is the individual raised in? How are they treated physically, emotionally and mentally? Life for Rhodes is difficult from the start. When he is one and a half years old, his biological father is sent to prison for auto theft. His mother remarries an army man, and Rhodes and his siblings are constantly on the move. Rhodes says he is physically abused by his stepfather and emotionally abused by a mother who didn't love him. But he singles out his relationship with his mother as being particularly hostile, fueling a lifelong anger towards women. I got upset with my mother. For years, I know it was like to be said, to be put down, to be harmed, to be hurt, in some cases injured. And nobody likes to be hurt. Although she admits to yelling, his mother says she is a loving parent who never abuses him and never even suspects that his stepfather does.

20:58Rhodes leaves home as a teenager and starts working in bars and strip clubs. He says he is arrested as a juvenile for fighting, loitering, and grand theft auto. But the charges are dropped. Eventually he is placed in a group home. He marries at 19 after serving time in prison for armed robbery. At the time Rhodes is living in St. Petersburg at age 24, his anger towards women takes over his life. He is evolved into a violent sexual predator. I was conscious of how this is affecting anybody while I am doing it as the scary part. During the summer of 1984, the sunshine city of St. Petersburg, Florida, becomes the hunting ground for a violent rapist and killer named James Dusty Rhodes, who lives in town with his wife and two children.

21:59This is Steve Kovino from Kovino and Rich. Before we get back into the show, we are doing it differently this time. Every guy listening right now, you are contestant. No buzzers, no calling in. Just answer to yourself. You got a belly and a little chest that won't go away no matter what you try. Gassed by the middle of the afternoon, no drive left in the tank, and lastly you lack that confidence and mental edge. Fellas, here is the thing. Those are classic signs that your testosterone has been sliding. Nothing drags it down faster than extra weight. The good news? Emerging research suggests that getting rid of it may actually be more effective than TRT. So why not take matters into your own hands? Strip off the weight that tanks your testosterone with Bioma GLP1 booster. Every serving is packed with science back and third party tested ingredients that crank up your natural GLP1 production. So you can enjoy a leaner physique, surging energy, and increased drive. Visit bioma.health slash GLP1 and use code CRShow to get 15% off your first order.

23:02That's bioma.health slash GLP1 code CRShow for 15% off. This is Rick Bird just from the Rick Bird just show. I want to talk to you for a second about something most of us put on autopilot car insurance. If you're just letting your policy auto renew year after year without shopping around, I'm telling you, you are probably throwing money away. Race change all the time and staying loyal to one company can end up costing you big time. That's why you need to go check out Insureify. I went to insureify.com to test it out myself and I was blown away by how easy it is. In about two minutes, totally free, you can compare actual real time quotes from over 100 top insurance companies all side by side in one place. No endless phone calls, no pushy sales pitches. Here's what I really love. Insureify doesn't just help you once and walk away. They actually keep monitoring your rates in the background and alert you whenever prices drop. So you never miss out on a better deal down the road. Millions of drivers have already used insureify to stop overpaying and there's no reason you shouldn't too.

24:02Do yourself and your wallet a favor. Go see what you could say right now at insureify.com. That's insureify.com. This is Matt Rogers from Lost Culture East. That's with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Lost Culture East. It's with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. You know when people try a new food and suddenly it's like, wait. That's the reaction. A lot of people are having when they first try Cupid Mayo. It's the one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. You've probably seen it in the grocery store before. And if you've ever just walked past it, some people would say that's a huge mistake. Because this mayo is different. Most mayonnaise uses whole eggs. Cupid only uses egg yolks, which gives it this rich umami flavor. It's smoother, deeper, and almost buttery. Once people try it, they start putting it on everything. Examages, fries, burgers, some fans even swear by dipping pizza crust in it. And once you notice it, you start seeing it everywhere. Chefs use it, restaurants use it. People who really care about flavor use it. Never try it. Grab the bottle with the red cap next time you're out of the store.

25:02Put it on just about anything. Then you'll understand. Cupid, the original Japanese mayonnaise. Children. Once a person makes themselves isolated, they become prey. Roads moves to St. Petersburg after raping and killing a woman in Colorado. Month after he gets to town, he rapes a woman at knife point. Police don't know it yet, but roads is just getting started. We're dealing with a very, very disturbed person. I didn't waste any time with the ruse. I didn't care to have a ruse. I chose the force route. Because? Because I was on a mission. A mission that I felt like force was adequate. Being a predator means that you're going out in a mindset. It's being able to watch when somebody doesn't know, and that can be very sexually gratifying.

26:02It's the ability to get into somebody's home or get into their car and feel that power over them. They never saw it coming, so you're generating that fear that you need. Roads keeps up his double life. After the attacks, he always goes straight home and resumes his role as a husband, father, and construction worker. How did you behave around your wife? She was asleep. The kids were asleep. I'd come in. Nothing seemed abnormal to her, because I would come home late, frequently. I'd clean up. I'd go to bed. It's easy to move from one life to another, because he doesn't think about the victim. So it's not eating at him. It is not really concerning him. A month after his first attack in Florida, he strikes again. Roads finds his third victim walking alone on a dark street. Have you ever seen her before? No. No, I never, never at all. She just happened to be walking down a street.

27:02Again, an opportunistic moment. Here's a person who has isolated herself, and then at that very point, I've made the decision that I'm going to strike again. He was a very, very dangerous person. He was out there pretty much doing whatever he wanted. What was your intention when you first saw her? The intention was right. I grabbed her by the arm, and she began to fight. She began to scream. And when she began to do all that, I went from anger to outright rage, and I began to strike her with a knife. You stabbed her and grabbed her purse and ran. But there's no attempt at sexual assault. Why? Because two people were screaming at me from a window.

28:02There's witnesses now. And so I abandoned everything in Iran. The reason she got assaulted with a knife is she became aggressive. She tried to fight rather than flee. That's a huge mistake when you got a guy twice your size holding a knife. She should have fled. Screaming was smart, fleeing a smart, but for a woman to try to fight a man is not going to work. It's not going to happen. What he was looking for in these attacks is fear, terror. And I think because he was not getting that, he got angry. And when he got angry, he was going to punish that victim. And he stabbed him repeatedly and left them to die. But the woman is brought to the hospital and survives. Detective Paula Zetzelberger is working in the sex crimes unit when the call comes in. She had been stabbed. I think it was 17 or more times.

29:05Her purse had been taken, but that was much more violence. She was needed to steal a woman's purse. The failure to sexually assault the woman leaves roads frustrated. But he isn't finished. Before police can find him, roads is back on the prowl, searching for another victim. I was mad that I had to run. I was mad that I didn't succeed. There was a lot of anger there. And so I went right back into Petro-Germog. You sound really mission-oriented to me to complete a sexual assault. Someone's going to get it. That was the mission that didn't get completed. Not for long. I was on a mission and the mission wasn't complete. He liked that term that he was a predator who was mission-oriented. It fit for him. He was in charge. He was the one that was out watching and following and the victims didn't know it. It was actually pretty chilling to watch that.

30:05When was the mission accomplished in your mind? The point was to have sex. Less than an hour later, roads finds a woman walking alone to her car and a parking lot. Opportunity to accomplish what I set out to do 15 minutes earlier was there. I'm in Petro-Germog. I'm now looking for a victim. Petro-Germog means you're focused. I'm focused. I'm on a mission. Now she's isolated herself and there's a predator. Here comes the lion. The lion has found the cub that's off by itself. That's what the predator does. It's said, that's the truth. That's what happens. The opportunity is there. It's dark, quiet. The woman vulnerable. Road's approach is as she gets into her car. I've fallen here to Car Door, but she's trapped herself. Her door's open. I'm coming up behind her. There's nowhere for her to go except for into the car. That's when she tried to dive into the car. I think her halfway diving and halfway getting pushed.

31:06Road's forces the woman into the passenger seat. What was the reaction that you got from her? Fair she... Of all of them, she was the quietest. She cowarded into the corner of the other seat. The next thing she knows, she has a knife at her throat. And he told her not to try anything cute or I'll cut you. What were you telling her to do? At first, remains seated to be quiet. And then that's when I had her perform the ratio on. My sense is, as I'm listening to this as a behavioralist, is that part of what was turning you on was you've got women who were terrified and you were excited by their being so frightened. I may have gotten that in my subconscious, but I don't recall ever having any pleasure at all from the fact that somebody else was terrified of me.

32:07You do remember their expression, though, which is interesting. The woman reports the sexual assault to Detective Zetzelberger, who was taken aback by the disturbing details of the encounter. Afterwards, he told her to take off her bra. She did, and he had lifted her blouse with the knife. And he started using the knife and was tracing circles on her breast. And she said, you promised you wouldn't hurt me. And he said, I'm not going to hurt you. With three attacks reported, two in the same night, Detective Zetzelberger is alarmed. She suspects a sexual predator is on the loose. Something's going on. We have a dangerous person out there that apparently has it in for women. No woman is safe, as road searches for his next target. The decision was made.

33:08And who made that decision? I made the decision that this was going to be another victim. Serial rapist and killer James Dusty Rhodes has attacked three women in St. Petersburg, Florida, two in one night, stabbing one victim 17 times. My mind was twisted as to what was normal, appropriate, sexual kind of thing. But really, you know, Frank here, none of this is really, you know, normal. This is Steve Covino from Covino and Rich. All right, quick round of trivia before we get back into the show. But we're doing it differently this time. Every guy listening right now, you're contestant. No buzzers, no calling in. Just answer honestly to yourself. Here we go. You got a belly and a little chest that won't go away no matter what you try. Gast by the middle of the afternoon, no drive left in the tank. And lastly, you lack that confidence in mental edge.

34:09Fellas, here's the thing. Those are classic signs that your testosterone has been sliding. And nothing drags it down faster than extra weight. The good news? Emerging research suggests that getting rid of it may actually be more effective than TRT. So why not take matters into your own hands? Strip off the weight that tanks your testosterone with Bioma GLP1 booster. Every serving is packed with science back and third party tested ingredients that crank up your natural GLP1 production. We can enjoy a leaner physique, surging energy and increased drive. Visit bioma.health slash GLP1 and use code CR Show to get 15% off your first order. That's bioma.health slash GLP1 code CR Show for 15% off. This is Rick Burgess from the Rick Burgess Show. I want to talk to you for a second about something most of us put on autopilot, car insurance. If you're just letting your policy auto renew year after year without shopping around, I'm telling you, you are probably throwing money away. Race change all the time and staying loyal to one company can end up costing you big time.

35:10That's why you need to go check out Insureify. I went to insureify.com to test it out myself and I was blown away by how easy it is. In about two minutes, totally free, you can compare actual real time quotes from over 100 top insurance companies all side by side in one place. No endless phone calls, no pushy sales pitches. Here's what I really love. Insureify doesn't just help you once and walk away. They actually keep monitoring your rates in the background and alert you whenever prices drop so you never miss out on a better deal down the road. Millions of drivers have already used Insureify to stop overpaying and there's no reason you shouldn't too. Do yourself and your wallet a favor. Go see what you could save right now at insureify.com. That's insureify.com. This is Matt Rogers from Los Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Los Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. You know when people try out new food and suddenly it's like, wait. That's the reaction. A lot of people are having when they first try QB Mayo. It's the one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle.

36:11You've probably seen it in the grocery store before. And if you've ever just walked past it, some people would say that's a huge mistake. Because this mayo is different. Most mayonnaise uses whole eggs. QB only uses egg yolks, which gives it this rich umami flavor. It's smoother, deeper, and almost buttery. Once people try it, they start putting it on everything. Examances, fries, burgers, some fans even swear by dipping pizza crust in it. And once you notice it, you start seeing it everywhere. Chefs use it, restaurants use it. People who really care about flavor use it. Never try it, grab the bottle with the red cap next time you're out of the store. Put it on just about anything. Then you'll understand. QB, the original Japanese mayonnaise. The heavier. None of it is. The police department suspects a rapist is on the hunt for women in its town. And detective Paula Zetzelberger is on the case. She and her two teenage daughters live near the crime scenes. The fact that my family, my daughters were in that area,

37:13made this case very important to me. Especially with this cluster of violent crimes that we started seed piling up within the month and a half. That he was in St. Petersburg. You get nervous, and you wonder, could it be me? Two weeks after his previous attack, Rhodes finds a vulnerable girl in a dark spot and strikes again. His fifth victim, 17 years old, is emptying trash at an ice cream parlor where she works at 11 at night. And I walked up behind her and I said, let's go for a jog. Five words I wish I'd never said. Rhodes takes her to the nearby railroad tracks. He rapes her and then unleashes a ferocious assault. Something made him mad and he reached in his back pocket and pulled out his knife and just started stabbing. He said he stabbed her two or three times. Actually, he stabbed her about 17 times in the back and then rolled her over and stabbed her a few more times.

38:20And then ran off and left her on the railroad tracks for dead, left her for dead. The victim is reported missing shortly after being abducted, concerned that their serial rapist is struck again. Police mount a massive search. They did send out police and a helicopter and a dog. And a dog started tracking down the tracks. But then turned off. The girl's stepfather also looks for her with a flashlight. He finds her six hours after the attack, unconscious bleeding, but miraculously still alive. And he carried her to the car and took her to a nearby hospital and she survived. Survived her wounds. The victim is able to give a description of her assailant and tells detectives about her horrendous ordeal. She was in and out of consciousness and she was vaguely aware of the helicopter going over and lighting up the area.

39:24And so she attempted to pull herself up onto the railroad tracks where she could be seen. Detective Zetzelberger is shocked by the brutality of the attack. I would say there's a lot of rage there, a lot of rage over the top rage. You know, the turning her over and stabbing her some more. It's almost like overkill, if you will. So everyone was at attention and knowing we had somebody very dangerous out there. Did you care if she died? No, at the time, no. At the time, in all of these, in any case, it's just like when you get into a fight. You don't care if you break a guy's nose. The police, the police, went into the assault, road sneaks back into his apartment. Now we have to clean this blood up for a finger right at me. I go into the house, I clean the knife. The defilement sense of relief almost.

40:26Relief that I got away. Relief that the mission was accomplished. No, I don't think that I was ever relieved that a mission was accomplished in any case, and that's why the mission had to continue. It wasn't filling the void. The next morning, police canvas the area with their new description of the suspect. A white man in his twenties with wire-rimmed glasses. A construction foreman tells officers that one of his men, Dusty Rhodes, matches the description. Rhodes is asked to come to the police station. And he voluntarily came in to talk to police and give his fingerprints and photograph voluntarily. That's a routine tool that we use in police work to try to develop suspects. Police have a strong suspicion they have finally caught their man. But with no hard evidence, Rhodes isn't under arrest.

41:28He returns home to his wife. Rhodes is kept under surveillance, while Detective Zetzelberger shows his picture to one of his previous rape victims in a lineup with photos of similar looking men. And then she said, do you ever get goosebumps? She picked up his picture and held it up and she said, that's him. And I've got goosebumps right now all over remembering what happened. That was one of the best positive ideas on a photopack I'd ever had. Authorities now have probable cause for arrest. They rage his apartment and find Rhodes with his wife getting ready to flee. He was telling her to get things together, relieving. And what's really amazing about this is his wife was a lovely young woman and they had two beautiful children. Police proceed cautiously, not knowing just whom they are arrested or what other crimes he may be responsible for.

42:28You know what a psychopath is, right? Yes. Do you think you are one? No, I think I was one. The day after a 17-year-old girl is found raped and stabbed on the railroad tracks in St. Petersburg, Florida. James Dusty Rhodes is arrested as a suspect. While police are putting Rhodes in handcuffs, Detective Paul Zetzelberger finds the knife used in the attacks in his wife's purse. There was this very distinctive looking knife shining brightly at the bottom of her purse. And I realized that that was probably our weapon. It matched the description that had been given by the victims. He asked her to keep the knife in her purse. He said police can't search her purse. Rhodes's wife tells police she thinks his request to hide the knife is strange, but complies without asking any questions.

43:32She denies any knowledge of or involvement in her husband's crimes. The knife helps police tie Rhodes to his crimes, but they aren't sure how many women he's attacked. Under interrogation at the police station, Detective Zetzelberger thinks she finally has her man. She brings in Rhodes's wife to try to get him to open up. And at one point, he looked over at his wife and he said, what should I do? And she said, you need to tell the truth. After a few moments, he finally broke down and started to cry. And he said, I need help. Detective Zetzelberger first gets Rhodes to confess to the sexual assault he carried out in a parking lot the week before. I said she has identified you in a photo lineup. And he said yes. I did that.

44:35Next, the 17-year-old girl on the railroad tracks, Rhodes thinks he's killed her. I said she's going to be all right. And he just visibly, it was like his body language and his whole demeanor just let loose with relief when he realized that she hadn't died. And then he talked openly. The list grows. After several hours of interrogation, Rhodes admits to four attacks in Florida over a two-month period. There's almost a point you reach where they give up. They almost give up. And you can see it in their body language and in their eyes and hear it in their voice. Rhodes describes feeling invincible during the attacks. He told me that when he was committing these crimes, he felt powerful and vulnerable. Like if someone had come up right then and there with a gun and told him to stop, he wouldn't stop.

45:40I reached a psychotic stage every once in a while that lasted for a minute and then that minute would result in a crime. Psychotic means a break with reality. Psychopath is using your terms someone without a conscience. At one point I had no conscience. This was a very successful sexual predator whose violence was such that there was little of any regard for the victim. During his confession, Detective Zitselberger gets a glimpse of the demons inside of Rhodes's head. Almost every night he said he'd go walking. For some reason he'd start to get mad. He would just be thinking, start feeling mad. And sometimes he would get a headache. And this headache would come on him and he knew he was going to do something bad. Is there any doubt in my mind that had I not been caught there would have been more victims?

46:44Absolutely not. There would have been more victims. I know. Obviously, after four assaults, that I was going to continue to assault until I was caught. Detective Zitselberger thinks Rhodes's wife knows more about her husband's crimes than she's let on. But there's no evidence that she's connected to the crimes in any way and no charges are ever filed. I just find it hard to believe that there wasn't some suspicion. I mean, when you come home all bloody, now maybe she was able to sleep through all this. But I find it difficult to believe that she didn't have at least a suspicion that something was wrong. As he prepares for trial in Florida, Rhodes is able to keep the murder he committed in Colorado as secret. But the truth about that murder and others that Mary LNO Tool thinks he may have committed will soon be revealed. Do you see how it would be very difficult to...

47:45I'm not sure how else to say them direct to really believe that these are the only cases you've committed. James Dusty Rhodes pleads not guilty to attacking four women in St. Petersburg, Florida in 1984, despite confessing to the crimes. His first trial is for the attack against his last victim, a 17-year-old girl who was raped and stabbed 17 times. The girl survives the attack and testifies. Detective Paula Zetzelberger also testifies and is relieved to finally put an end to the crimes that terrorized her city. He hurt a lot of people. You can't really be sure who is going to be capable of this kind of crime. And I think that's what makes it scary that it could be the likable person next door or the person you work with.

48:47And yet they could be capable of this kind of crime, this kind of anger, violence. Rhodes is convicted of first degree attempted murder, kidnapping, and sexual battery. He then changes his plea in the other crimes to guilty and is sentenced to three consecutive life terms. In prison, Rhodes still hides a dark secret, the murder he committed in Colorado in 1982. But a year after he gives a clue to Detective Zetzelberger, the crime is finally solved. He did tell me about an incident when I was interviewing him that happened back in the early 80s. It was a girl that he had beaten her up badly and raped her, said he had been killed her. But he did mention Colorado Springs and eventually that information was passed out there. The Colorado detective focusing on cold cases ties Rhodes to the crime.

49:51Three years after killing Cynthia McCluein, Rhodes confesses to the murder and has given another life sentence. He allegedly tries to exact revenge from behind prison walls. Within a few years of the arrest, I had gotten information from prison officials that Rhodes was issuing a death threat on me. And I wasn't surprised because of how extreme the case was and the fact that he had multiple life sentences. There may be more victims. Authorities are still looking at cold cases in Colorado, Wyoming, and several other states where Rhodes spent time before moving to Florida. What are the other cases out there that you were never charged with? There are no other cases out there that I was never charged with. I did what I did, I've owned what I did. I'm not proud of anything that I've done, but I have done no more.

50:53You can understand how it's very difficult. I would understand it. Because you have a history of assault of behavior and residential burglaries and armed robbery and then moving into sexual assault and then there's a homicide. Yes. But have any other victims? No. Absolutely not. Even though she's unable to extract a new confession, Mary Ellen O'Toole believes her interview with Rhodes offers important insights into the minds of violent criminals. Dusty is a sexual predator whose crime scenes, in my opinion, manifest traits of psychopathy like impulsivity, grandiosity, lack of guilt, a lack of remorse. Through sexual aggression, he is sexually gratified and he feels a sense of power and control and whatever else. So it's that deadly combination. Rhodes's personal relationships deteriorate during his time in prison. His wife divorces him and his children stop all contact.

51:56He says he is no longer the violent predator he once was and even wants to apologize to his victims. Really be specific in terms of what message you want to give to your victims. For any anguish that I have promised you, for all the nightmares that I know that you've gone through, I am sorry. There is nothing that I can do to take that back so much as I wish I could. I will hope that you have to have forgiveness so that it doesn't ruin all the other aspects of your life. Because one thing I have learned is that when you let things eat it too, you start eating it everything around you. And I wouldn't want that to be occurring in your life like it did in mine because it's just going to drive you. I don't think that can take very well to that. I asked him repeatedly, how did you feel about the victims and he would go off onto a tangent and eventually it would come back to intellectualizing what he did and talking about himself.

53:07I am sorry for everything that I've ever caused to anyone. I know from long before I attacked anyone what it's like to go to bed at night knowing that you have been victimized wrongfully by somebody else. Because I've been a victim. That's what I wanted to bring out to see how this person is to date despite how I believe he wants you to think he is. A tool concludes, Rhodes still exhibits the telltale signs of being a psychopath. Psychopathy is a personality disorder and once your personality is in place it's hardwired. He said no, I'm not a psychopath today. I was years ago and based on my research training and expertise that metamorphosis is fantasy that doesn't take place. This week at Vons and Albertsons, USDA choice tri-tip roast untrimmed are 599 per pound,

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