The greatest punishment ever inflicted on Trump: Andy Burnham

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1:03Get holiday guests ready at WayFair.com or on the WayFair app today. WayFair every style, every home. Hello and welcome to the Weekend Tea with me, Poppy Coban. And me, Michael Deakin. It's a big news this week. We have just inflicted the greatest international punishment on Donald Trump imaginable for his many, many crimes against humanity. He's had to meet only by minister. Oh, I'm terribly sorry to hear that. I don't think it went particularly well from the clips that they've come out of the meeting. Because Andy Burnham, you know, we're always being told here in the United Kingdom. He's got this personal appeal. It will cut through to people. He's a former mayor. You can shake hands. He's not like the robot here, Starmer. But it does seem like an awful lot of Andy Burnham's charm relies on making references to a racist and what you call a bread roll. I kind of think for a New York real estate developer, those things and kind of go over his head a little bit.

2:08That is true. I go, I thought it could have been a lot worse for Andy Burnham. Because Trump does have a habit of really embarrassing people. You very often you'll see him next to a world leader with a camera on them and just anything happen. You remember early in the year, it was him and the Japanese prime minister in front of the cameras and within moments, Trump's making jokes about Pearl Harbor and Paul. And doesn't know where to look. So it could have been a lot worse. I mean, you know, Burnham, before hand, I think I'm like, what's he going to say? Something like, what's your name again? Burnham? Sorry, I don't normally bother learning the names you guys anymore. You're always changing leader and some other guy I probably replace you next month. So I always think that when world leaders do have to go up and do this, they must just be thinking about Zelensky. Like as long as I don't have a worst meeting with Donald Trump, then Zelensky had them. I'm like, OK, make sure I'm right. And wearing a suit, I've got a tie on. So that's number one. He can't have a go at me for my clothes. I could did for Zelensky. So that's been sorted. And is he got life or death decisions about the future of my country, which is currently being made by Russia?

3:10Not yet. So, OK, we're really one. We're really only on a good footing here. That's how much lay the bar is. I think Andy Burnham's probably, you know, in light of that, he's probably quite happy with it. And also, there was a bit where Trump effectively said Burnham's a better prime minister than Kia Starrmer. Although I appreciate it's not the highest bar. I mean, it's a bit like being told you're a better child, minder and kinghead. But it's something he'll take that, aren't he? Well, you can still see a bit of Burnham's regilism come through. So he did mention Donald Trump and made one of his many throwaway comments like, you know, we should reunify Ireland. This one was like, what's Manchester? They didn't really care about Manchester, funnily enough. And Burnham did try and get a little dig in and Trump just looked completely like, what? Who? Where? Manchester? Where's that? You could just tell he's thinking about the next meeting he's going to have. You know, with like Netanyahu or some other great, you know, statesman from across the world. He's like, which one's this again? Burnham? Oh, like, OK. Manchester, is that next to Birmingham? Burnham? Yeah.

4:10Oh, yeah, sure. I thought the only bit actually that didn't go so well for Burnham was the stuff about the Chegos Islands deal. Because for some insane reason, Burnham wants to revive Starmer's deal. And Trump to shot that down immediately. So that was a terrible deal, terrible, terrible. And then since then, basically, Burnham's having to row back on it and reconsider and where's streeting. Sort of admitted, oh, yeah, maybe it's not a such a good deal at the moment of Americans' answer. Keen, now some people might think, oh, well, this just shows a, you know, how pathetic Britain is nowadays. We just, you know, we let ourselves get pushed around by American president, just like that. I'm thinking, yeah, OK, but actually in this case, the American president is right. I'm glad he's pushing our prime minister around because our prime minister's totally wrong. Why? And, uh, still after two years, still, I've not had a clue to explain. Why is they want to give away vital British territory to an ally of China? I'm not only there, pay them loads of arm and into the bargain. You know, Trump's track record on islands hasn't been great. So not great on island itself, not great on the four clans.

5:12Greenland, I suppose, had a happy ending in the end, but it was pretty tough going up until that point. But of the Chegos Islands, I think he has basically been correct, which is he's like, this is the worst trade deal in the history of all trade deals forever. But it's another example where, you know, there's a specter that's haunted the feast. This is all Keir Starmer, the long Keir Starmer government. So he's already having to deal with like, restoring the relationship with Donald Trump, which was ruined by Keir Starmer, even though he was rolling over on his belly and going, oh, do you think you're like Donald? Here's a letter from the King Donald. Please don't step on the Donald. And then he also has to defend missing same deal, but nobody can seem to make work. Yeah. Oh, sorry, apart from Powell. How obviously thinks is a fantastic deal. But because I do think he's really working for you, but there you go. Well, anyways, one of the impressions. So why don't we cheer ourselves up by talking about something with lighter, which is the, frankly, treasonous new book by L Spencer. This is very taligraph. There you go. I mean, you know, they always say, don't they? There's no such thing as bad publicity, but L Spencer is putting that to the test with his book,

6:14because, you know, he is currently making Harry's memoirs look like some kind of PR triumph really, isn't he a banana? Yes. I actually saw a very funny thing on social media where Bella Mackie has a new book out with its titled Clause Out, and the bookstore had put it in the window next to Swan Song by L Spencer as a funny little dig at him. So yes, 29 years after the event of sister dying, he suddenly realized that now is the opportune moment to tear up these very, very personal family just beats all over again, as if the King isn't already suffering enough from having Harry, back in the country, and starting other war with William and Kate. So yeah, it's quite unpleasant, some of the details that have come out of this. The one that I found the most incomprehensible and surely someone, in the memoir business, must have gone, can we actually stand this up? Is the idea that the King's giddy with excitement when he heard that Diana had died? You know, the mother of his children, he was giddy with excitement. Not only was he giddy with excitement, he decided to give this away when he was talking to him.

7:17When he was talking to her brother, and we're supposed to believe that that apparently happened. Do we think the King is Patrick Bateman? On the whole, probably not, no. And Spencer's getting in trouble from other quarters as well now, because he's got Peer's Morgan threatening to sue him, because he said parts about him in the book are grossly inaccurate and defamatory. For example, he says that Spencer claims that when Morgan was editor of the mirror, he'd run certain photos of Diana, the gym working out on the leotard, and Morgan says, well, actually those photos were published two whole years before I even joined the mirror. So that's nothing to do with me. Various other things like that. I just makes me wonder, you know, what's going on in the publishing industry? Don't they hire fact checkers anymore? You would think a book like this as well, quite a sensitive subject really, making explosive games about the actual King. I think we might get a fact checker to have a good look at it first. I mean, even in the bits that aren't about the King, let's check the dates.

8:21Well, at least check the bits about Peer's Morgan. Famously, the tingeess, Peer's Morgan, he's not exactly going to take it lying down. It's very interesting, anything that's ever been written about him. He's definitely going to seize on it. He knows a story when he sees it. So he thinks, right, there's a story and it's about me. I mean, everything I could dream of, great. He did make a very good point, which is if you've got the facts on this wrong, something that would have taken you literally 10 minutes to figure out, the basic amount of due diligence, where else have the recollections made very aspect of this story gone slightly awry? So I do think he has quite a strong point there about what has actually been done with the book and what's the purpose. Yeah, and how much of this book can you trust if you can't get a date right? Well, he's not the only person caching in on the Royal Family, like I've seen, Royal Family, Eternal Drama. Harry is writing a documentary about Diana. Yeah, I've seen a lot of people have been quite critical of him for doing this. I'm actually going to defend Harry here, okay? Because when he brought out his memoirs, Spare, I thought at the time, this is a very bad idea,

9:22shouldn't be hearing all this dirty laundry in public about his relationships with his brother and his father and his stepmother, all the rest of it. What I thought was, if he's going to write a book at all, I should just do a really poignant and moving, but purely about his mother, his memory is his mother, and he should just make it, you know, and people will probably find it very moving, I think, you know, if he's saying, you know, here's my memories of her, and here's how I fell after I lost it. And people would sympathise with that, because my girl, you know, she was killed when he was 12, he was old. I think if it just been about that, and not been about the rest of his family, I think people would have been sympathetic to him then. I think that would have been a better idea, although I will say one thing, because in his book Spare, there was one particular story he told in relation to his mother, and let's just say, I think he should have left that out. I don't know if you know this story, but because I am burdened with this knowledge, I don't want to have to suffer alone, so I'm going to inflict it on you, and you're never going to be able to forget this, by the way, I'm sorry about that. You're looking at me very intensely.

10:23I don't know whether you know the story, okay? So Harry's talking about how, as a grown man, he and some friends had made a journey to the Arctic Circle. Do you know the story? No. Do you know where I'm going? No, I didn't know where you're going. You're going? You're going to be ready for this. It's going to hit you. Okay, he come home, and he's in, let's say, some discomfort, because he discovered that he had frostbite on his penis. Now, you might say, that's quite enough information already, Harry, please. We didn't need to know that, but no, I'm afraid there's more. He goes on. Because in an attempt to sue the frostbite on his penis, he started rubbing it with his late mother's favorite face cream. I think it's Elizabeth Arden. Is that the name of the brand? Yes. I think it was. Yes. Why he did that? I don't know, but also why did he tell us? Why would you put that name in? Why would you put that name in? It's inevitably going to be read by every journalist, practically, every few and being on earth. I think it's one of the biggest selling nonfiction books of all time, by the way.

11:26And you know, it's going to sell, why did you let us know this, Harry? It's very nice. I mean, first of all, I wouldn't tell someone I had frostbite in genitals. That's not just me, but okay, fine. He's made this brave choice. He's exposing all, literally. Thanks, Harry. Why then add in the fun little detail? It's your late mother's favorite face cream. As a little tidbit there. Just a little tidbit. The Elizabeth Ardencream, which you're now going to always think of, Harry's. Yeah. Private parts alongside with. So, I mean, maybe he is going to make a really moving and wonderful documentary. But if he's assisted by other people, I'm not. I ideally just don't include that bit. Yes. And I would strongly advise against doing a demonstration for the camera. Yeah, no, I don't think off-com allows that sort of thing anymore. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, wait, it's gone mad. Well, anyway, that is enough about the Duke of Sussex's penis. Tell me, perhaps, move on. There's one more royal story. Now, this is to do with William McCate and they've been to a premiere and they've met Tom Cruise. And the reason I want to talk about this is because of the wonderful photo of the three of them standing together.

12:30Now, there's a very old comedy sketch, a classic one, very famous. I don't know if you know it because it is sold as in black and white. This may be a bit before your time. Me, maybe before your time. It is actually before my time. I do know. Okay. There's three famous comedians. They're standing in a row. John Cleese, he's very, very tall. Ronnie Barker, medium height. Ronnie Corbett, tiny. And that's three of them standing in a row. And you see this photo of William. He's about six foot three or something. Kate, very tall for a woman, five to ten. That's what I've averaged, you know, compared to the man. And then this little tiny Tom Cruise, little Tom Thumb there beside him. Now, Tom Cruise, I, I, I get him personally, he's not going to be quite careful, you know, not to show. Get in the white angles, getting the heels on the shoes. Yeah, that sort of thing, not to show that he's actually a little bit shorter than average. For an amp. And this photo, there's no escaping. And I guess when you're standing next to the royal couple, you can't just whip out a box or something, and try and pretend you're taller than they are. That might be against royal protocol. No, you're not allowed to, just to suggest that you are somehow taller than our future king, how days. I don't know, but anyway.

13:31Well, here's the suggestion for Harry and Meghan. If you want to win the PR war, if you want to get all the A-list celebrities back on size, then it might be a little bit difficult now that you've left Hollywood, but you're back in the United Kingdom. What you need to do to need to approach Tom Cruise on your knees. Just pretend you've always been walking like that. I just got to say, have you grown Tom? You're looking very tall, Hanson today, and that's how you're going to win the PR war. Very good. And even better. And if you want to repair your relationship with your family, you could go up to William and Kate on your knees. Brilliant. We just saw the royal. That's the photo we're all looking for. If we can get the exclusive photo of your majesty, your highness' sorry, yes please. They're going to have to leave a couple more lawsuits before they can do that one. Okay, all right, there you are. Well, that's the last result. Hey all, Kelly Clarkson here with Wayfair. You know my favorite compliment during the holidays? Your house feels so cozy.

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16:33Speaking of people who have been maybe humiliating themselves this week, Wes Struiting had a classic nightmare scenario where you can imagine some poor special assistance got sat for this. He was in an interview and he realized as he was actually being questioned by the journalists that he didn't have the figures about the new military space quadrant. What's the number of personnel deployed? What's the level of investment sector of state? So for good reason, we don't comment on operational detail, but we're talking initially in terms of this new unit and tens of people. And that's what we've got. Tens of people to defend space. And that's what that's that's what's required to to run the command. And that's and that's that's a good wise level of resource. We are suspect we'll see this grow over time. There will be tens of people, tens of people around, which is a which is a great number. It's really vague. Tens. Sounds like you're really across a brief was. And one of the reasons this is so great is because it will remind people of an even better politician screwing out that number story,

17:37which is of course the brilliant Diana. So how much would 10,000 police officers cost? Well, if we recruit the 10,000 police men and women over a four year period, we believe it'll be about 300,000 pounds. 300,000 pounds for 10,000 police officers. What do you say in them? No, I mean, sorry, how much will they cost? They will cost. They will it will cost about about 80 million pounds. About 80 million pounds. This was all over this place. Amazing. It's amazing. She was doing a media round that day. All of her other interviews that day were about the interview she just given and how she'd screwed it up. How incredible. God bless her. It's not only we'd listen to Diana but we would have a quarter of a million police officers. Maybe we wouldn't be in a position where we would release it with these early.

18:39We would be a bit starship, treat us a little bit frightening to have a police stay under the Labour government. But maybe she was a genius all along. Oh, God bless you, don't know. Maybe when she wore two left shoes one day, it was actually because she was seen into the future and that was going to be a big style. Hold on, 2030. Diana but totally vindicated. Now there's no doubt about the meme of the book on social media. And that is a video of Rory Stewart. Now this has taken off. Now is this with your newsnight? It was on newsnight. He is on newsnight and there's other people on the panel they're having a discussion. There's people out the side of him and they're talking and the clip just consists of him constantly just turning his head from side to side. And some, anyway, this little clip has gone viral and someone very cleverly. Mark Wallace of Total Politics, given the credit because it was very good. He basically added the noise of tennis players grunting at his in the ball. So it looks as if Worse She was just watching a tennis match. This is really, really fantastic. So it's Alvaray.

19:40He's the political editor of the East Statesman. I think the host goes to how he goes. What do you think? He's your 30 seconds. So we think about the big issues of the day. And I think Rory Stewart, someone must have told him. I think he's such a famous respected pollcaster, failed politician. But we can let bygones be bygones. Make sure that when a young woman is speaking, she listen and make sure that people know that you're listening. I just think Rory took it very seriously because he looks at her like that it's like his neck portrayed. He comes out to get even closer. It's he is actively listening. He is really, really listening to this poor lady as she's about to speak. I mean, I've never seen body language like it before anywhere. Is what we still actually from the United Kingdom? Is it issue is not from space? And he's just come down in the mother's shirt? It's worth considering. That's not the first time actually that I think that's been suggested. I feel yes, though, they may be other clues. But I think I'm this occasion. I know everybody else is laughing at it. I'm going to have to defend Rory Stewart.

20:42I know. First I defend Prince Harry now defending Rory Stewart. I know. I might as well move the Guardian. But on this occasion, I'm going to have to defend him. Because I don't know. It's people either signed if you are now having an argument like that. You can't help looking at the person you're talking because what's the alternative? Should he just be staring out straight ahead of their right back? Or should he only be staring at one of them the entire time like that while the other one's talking to him? I'm just going to be staring at you. I'm not going to embarrass myself by moving my head from side to side constantly. I'm just going to do this. I'm just looking around at what you're telling me is. What makes you feel most uncomfortable weekend tick? If I just stare at you, if I was like rammed... There's only two of us looking at each other. There's several of them. They're all inside him. So he's looking around. I don't know. Moving away from Rory Stewart and to people that actually do a good job in this country. I really love this story. And he's already been getting some flat from this. So there was a judge. He was hearing a case from bed because he was recovering from an operation. So it was at a Killy's Hill situation where he couldn't actually walk. Right. It was Sudbury on his hill.

21:42And so he was dealing with the court cases. And this was the case with optometrist who'd been struck off. And this was still upheld. So he did his job properly. But he was doing it from bed. So he was doing a video interview for the case. And he was overseeing it from his bed. Now that has got a bit of flag. Particularly from the person who was actually involved in the case. He said, I at least want to have a judge who's actually physically there. And not horizontal. Which I can understand why you might be a little bit concerned about it. But I think there's something wonderful about someone not taking it. Which he obviously could have done. You know, he's just gone through an operation. But then you know what? I'm going to keep working. Even if I have to work in bed, it reminds me of MPs. And the stories of MPs being dragged in where they have to do a really important vote. Some of them being pulled in on stretches. They're like giving birth. Yeah. Or they're just really wrong. Really. Yes. This is how societies who operate. So even if you are recovering from major surgery, you're just down on zoom. That's not work from home laziness. That's desperation. Well, it's so that you know, we're often very critical of work from home.

22:43Well, you know, not because I work on hand. But as an organization, sometimes we run articles knocking people who work from home. But here clearly is evidence of someone who's working for effectively. And one thing they're actually working. That's the thing. I mean, this judge was not definitely not sitting there watching this morning. Or something. Or Lorraine Kelly. What have been the problem from? From somewhere. Hannah. Right. I think that's a matter of plans. That would have been offensive. Well, I believe that there's worse things that people do on camera. So during Zoom calls, but let's not go into that. I know nothing of it. It's just something I've heard about. That's not dwell. This is a story that's going to appeal to you by books. I've written about it in your columns before. Oh, really? And it's something that I care about too. When people play loud music on public transport. Which is I'm sure the banal everyone's like. The here is a serious country that is coming. And it said, if you play loud music on public transportation, which is an anti-social act, we are going to find you through a significant amount of money. It's of course, Singapore. Singapore. Famously liberal and democratic country.

23:45Singapore. Well, I think that's great news. Very sensible. But having said that, given this is Singapore, I would have expected to be a tougher. They are credibly tougher than Lorraine or what I'd have thought would be like, sort of public execution or something like that by their standards. Something people hands off. There you go. So I think actually, you know, if you're a sodcaster in Singapore, you're getting off lightly with a fine. But I will say that they've got some very, very strict rules over there. And there's one I want to point out to you here. Just did you know if you're in Singapore, if you use a public lavatory and fail to flush it properly after use, you can receive an on the spot fine of $150. Now, what I want to know is, how exactly do the authorities monitor this? How do they know that you haven't flushed in order to administer this on the spot fine, right there? And then do in every single cubicle and Singapore to have an arm. Now, as he's there an armed guard in there, he's standing there the whole time. His whole shift eight hours. He's standing there all day, right inside the cubicle. While you come in, do your business. He's those watching as he flushed. Good.

24:45Okay. He's flushed. So you have not flushed 150 pounds or, I mean, maybe if there isn't a guard in there, do they have cameras? Okay. Now this security goes there monitoring. They've got all these monitors. They're stirring and all the time. That guy's not flushed. They send it a SWAT team. Pin him to the ground. It's going to be a lot of estate and $150. Yeah, we have hundreds of videos of you going to the toilet that have accidentally been hacked by, you know, some Russian gangsters and now they've been published everywhere on the internet. Thanks Singapore. So, I mean, as I said, I don't know how they monitor this because I've never been to Singapore. But having read that story, I think maybe I'm not going to want the whole. Yeah. Okay. I'm changing my mind, which is a shame because I've just bought a massive book of Leak on these aphorisms. What a delightful website reading. There you go. Although, you know, it could come in for other uses because if someone is talking and I can meet back home, I could just bludge in them over the top of the head and that can't be quiet. Are they playing the loud music? Yeah, you are. Yeah, last thing they'll have to do. I think this is pretty thick. I think this is going to keep me occupied. Standing avation for the whole carriage.

25:46So that's where I'm getting my ideas from people to be afraid to be very afraid. Oh, there's one more story I want to talk about. If we've got time. And now this is about Rubik's cube. Now, I don't know about you. It's a child via an ego to the Rubik's cube. It wasn't an ego set, although I tried to be, but always rubbish. Don't have a quick enough hand with that. I can go ahead and T.I. was with us. I hope that Santa Erna could clear. I mean, it's too much for my mega intellectual of certainly my mega reserves of patience. But in any case, who's I mentioned it? It's a six-year-old girl, six. Six-year-old girl from China has just set a new record by solving a entire Rubik's cube, not just a side, an entire Rubik's cube, in under five seconds. How? I don't understand. But you are. My son, a 12-year-old, when he was about eight or so, he was quite into a Rubik's cube. Although, you know, he considers them beneath his dignity now, because he's a 12-year-old boy now. He's just into violent, violent video games. There you go. So there you are. I mentioned this to him last night. I said, did you know this is going to challenge you? Just set a new record by solving it on five seconds. And he said, that's not record.

26:46He said, 2022. There's a bloke from Poland, who did it in under three seconds. He said, that record. That's just a new girl's record. Oh, wow. So there you are. Well, well, that put me in my place. So there you go. It's expensive for a six-year-old boy. Five seconds, yeah, pathetic. Yeah, what a loser. Six-year-old boy could probably get in one. There you go. Well, I don't know. Funny enough, you know, when Mike Schillin, shall I embarrass him by mentioning this? Please. I don't know. Maybe I'll ask for it. I don't know. He's not going to watch this, Jesus. Anyway, yeah, when he was about eight years old and into Rubik's cube, he used to get me to time him. They're just solving a single side. Okay. Not the whole thing. I don't think he ever solved the whole thing. But for single side, it's record was 6.95 seconds, which okay, he's not quite up to the standard of Chinese six-year-old girl. That's a hell of a lot better than it. I don't think I've ever solved a single side. I don't mean it's not like I'm doing it all the time. But anyway, hey, I thought that was very good. I want to ask to tell you one more thing about Rubik's cube. Are the famous people who are good at Rubik's cubes. Okay, Ed Miller-Band has claimed that he can solve a Rubik's cube in 90 seconds.

27:46Which I'll sound impressive. Wow, well done. But I'll tell you what, Justin Bieber, the pop star, has said that he can solve Rubik's cube in 83 seconds. Get him in his phone, Zach. In your face phone, Zach, how about that? That's really embarrassing for Ed Miller-Band because he's such a geek. He really should be much better at geeky things. When he sees this podcast, he finds out about Bieber. I mean, honestly, all he'll be doing is working on his record. Honestly, which would be a good thing because it would keep him off doing his day off. I was going to say, it was the toughest creating diplomatic incidents. There you go. Keep yourself whole, look, five please Ed Miller-Band. Thank you, Josh. Well, that's all from us. You'll see us again next week. If you like our podcast, we think you'll enjoy from the editor, the telegraphs free daily newsletter. It's your essential guide to the day's top stories, including our editor's pick of must read features and opinion. Simply click the sign up button now and look forward to reading it every morning.

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