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That's another episode of the show.

It's dedicated to the train ride.

They're going to be really faithful with this, I'm telling you.

It's like the pit, but you're on the Hogwarts Express all day.

Absolutely.

Welcome to Muggle Castor Weekly Ride into the world of Harry Potter.

I'm Andrew.

I'm Eric.

I'm Micah.

And I'm Laura.

And we're your Harry Potter friends talking about the books and the movies.

And this week we hope the American listeners know what philosopher means.

Because we're also talking about the Harry Potter TV show.

The first official trailer for Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone was released on Wednesday.

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And you'll never miss an episode of these monthly TV-focused episodes.

We actually had planned to focus on the TV show this week.

I did all this work.

Yeah.

Planning the document.

And then boom.

We had influencers showing up at the set of the Harry Potter TV show.

And then the next day we got a trailer.

It almost sounded like Micah that you're saying that influencers rated the set.

Let's show it up in the set.

Isn't that what they do?

First of all, I just want us to bask in this moment here.

Because we are getting to react to a brand new Harry Potter trailer in the year 2026.

As we are all like 20 years removed from the period of time when we were constantly reviewing new trailers.

So this is just really exciting.

Yeah.

I mean, when was the last time we reviewed a Harry Potter trailer?

Obviously, we did fantastic B stuff.

But when was the last time we, you know, when we reviewed a Deathly Hallows Part 2 trailer.

And that would have been what?

Probably 15 years ago.

15 years ago.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

It is a special occasion, Laura, so much that I'm actually wearing my Deathly Hallows button down t-shirt.

Because I wanted to look a little fancier for the trailer.

Oh, and I got a tie too.

Oh, you have a tie.

I have a tie.

Oh, you're going to get to that, aren't you?

Oh, that's a particular tie.

Hey, I think I've seen that tie somewhere before.

I didn't know we were dressing up.

I didn't get the memo.

I'll take this off for now, but.

So we're going to focus on the title and the release date first.

And then we'll break down the trailer.

So yes, season one is called Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone.

I feel so vindicated right now.

Do you, Laura?

I do because all of y'all were being like, no, they're not going to call it.

They're just going to call it Harry Potter.

And I just, I saw that and I chuckled a little bit.

Wait, wait, wait.

Didn't we do a bonus model cast where we bet on this?

Was that one of the topics?

I think it was.

Can we go back and check the tape on this?

I'm very excited to see that they're going with Philosopher's Stone and not trying to make it sorcerer's stone for Americans

and then keep it Philosopher over in the UK.

They changed the name for Americans because the books this world was not popular at the time.

They got scared by the word Philosopher in the US.

So Scholastic decided to change it.

You do not need the change to the name anymore.

It would have been ridiculous to call it sorcerer's stone here, I think.

Yeah, it was one decision made by the book publishing industry 28 years ago.

And should not hold the rest of the experience of Harry Potter to that one decision.

Agreed.

Okay.

So if there's nothing else to say on the title, the other big surprise is that this show is going to debut Christmas 2026 this year.

That is pretty surprising.

We had started hearing 2026 late 2026 or early 2027.

And when they say something like that, it's like, okay, they actually probably need 2027.

But yeah, Christmas.

Christmas is a Friday, by the way, presumably they're going to be doing weekly releases.

Micah, this might mean we're going to have not just Christmas plans, but New Year's plans too.

I would think so.

Yeah, this is very reminiscent of stranger things in terms of releases at least.

If we are to follow out the Fridays, eight straight Fridays, I don't see if they release on Christmas

why they wouldn't release the following Friday as well.

And traditionally HBO doesn't release all at once.

They release week to week.

And I don't see why that would be different for Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone.

But what I am interested in is maybe how many episodes, like I know I'm contradicting myself here.

But do we think we could potentially get more than one episode on Christmas?

It's Christmas after all.

It's the season of giving.

Or perhaps maybe just a longer premiere than the other episodes, which I think they had said

are about an hour long each.

Right.

I could see two episodes on Christmas to wet our appetite.

I'm not sure we'd get more than that.

Frankly, for us, I think it'd be great if it was just one and you know, space them out week to week.

I do find it interesting that we're releasing this around Christmas.

I'm surprised, but I'm not.

We remember that every part of takeoff to reality.

Oh, that that part sucks too, y'all.

We're going to have to work Christmas.

Potentially we need to get screeners.

I don't want to be working on Christmas.

And definitely not New Year's either.

But you all might remember that the Harry Potter 20th anniversary events that aired on HBO a few years ago.

That came out on New Year's Day, I believe.

And I just remember at the time that being a big deal and everybody was tuning in.

I think we're in an era with streaming TV where people just want to watch special stuff at home around the holidays.

Obviously families are going to be together around the holidays too.

This is very much I think going to be a family show.

So I think this is going to do blockbuster numbers around the holidays.

People don't have anything to do.

They're going to check out the Harry Potter show.

The original films came out always in that November sort of Christmas holiday season beginning moment.

You know, that that month I've long associated and many people have the early movies with Christmas.

They're just they're Christmas colored.

They're Christmas coded.

Those Chris Columbus films are Christmas coded.

And so this made sense to me as far as a release day.

Some time in June or sometime in March wouldn't have had the same.

I think effect.

All right.

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Michael, what's coming up in bonus muggle cast this week?

Yeah, so how to completely change up bonus muggle cast as well with the.

Again, Michael, thank you for all of your hard work.

Everything that you do.

Thank you.

For acknowledging my heart.

I feel like we get a round of applause for Michael here.

Everybody ready?

Yeah, I do.

Yeah, I do.

What's a lot of applause.

But I think it fits with the theme of the Harry Potter TV show.

We mentioned earlier that a number of influencers visited the Harry Potter set.

And there was a bunch of information that came out from their visits that they could share with us.

So we're going to be talking a little bit more about that as well as some casting.

So 21 Hogwarts students were announced in each of the four Hogwarts houses.

Some names are very familiar.

Some names are not.

I'll be completely candid.

But that just means I need to read more.

But we're excited.

Yeah.

This is a throwback as Laura said earlier to the olden days of when we would get breaking news

and have fresh things to discuss.

Yeah.

So again, enter code 2026 for 26% off your first month.

This offer is only valid through April 1st.

By the way, Camilla is bringing up a great point in our discord right now.

She is one of our patrons.

She says it is actually really British of them to have a Christmas episode drop.

A lot of popular British shows do Christmas slash New Year's episodes.

It's a good point.

Dr. Hues, Sherlock, they've had Christmas releases.

So what do you all think?

Should I play the trailer first and then do the overall thoughts?

Or should we do the overall thoughts then play the trailer?

Let's play the trailer.

Play the trailer.

All right.

Let's get to the trailer.

We're going to play it all the way through.

Then we're going to offer some overall thoughts.

And then we're going to go scene by scene.

So buckle up.

I told you.

You are a normal boy.

And you're going to start acting like one.

You think it was something special?

There is nothing special about you.

I've always wanted to know about my parents.

Your parents were the kindest bravest people I ever met.

They were funny and in clever.

They stood up for what they believed was right.

The next time I see you,

will be in Hogwarts.

I think we can expect great things from you.

Let's see who you are.

Are you really Harry Potter?

We're going to start with overall thoughts first.

For me, this trailer actually evoked an exciting feeling.

I wasn't really expecting that.

And actually my boyfriend said he had felt a sense of wonder when he saw it for the first time.

And I would say you could see this trailer less as a trailer for this particular season.

But more of an introduction to Harry Potter on a whole, I feel.

There was very little plot actually covered in this trailer.

Andrew, just I agree.

The last couple of seconds have this music.

If you want to play it for just a couple more seconds longer, go back a few.

That is wonder music.

Oh, that is wonder.

That's whimsy and wonder.

This is whimsy and wonder.

And not headwigs theme.

Not headwigs theme.

Kind of interesting.

You know, I'm happy they didn't.

It stands on its own.

And the interest like that was my overall impression.

There are going to be these things that are so familiar to us from the films.

But I think the best things are going to be familiar to us from the books only.

And watching those moments where they overlap or watching how the show does something different.

And maybe just forges its own path.

Hogwarts looks different.

It's not the exact same Hogwarts.

There's rooms I don't recognize.

And I love that.

And yeah, I'm really taken by this trailer.

Yeah, same.

What I love about it is there is so much book accuracy baked like chock full in this trailer.

But it's not an exact copy paste of what they did in the movies necessarily.

And it's not a line for line copy paste from the books either.

It really feels like a true adaptation.

And that makes me excited because as a Harry Potter fan since I was 11 years old.

It's been a long time since I felt like I was going to get to experience any new Harry Potter firsts.

But I feel like we might get that with the show because they're going to dive into.

You know, parts of the stories that were either omitted from the movies or even parts of the stories that we know happened in the books, but they happened off page.

And we just hear about them in passing.

So that is really, really exciting to me.

It makes me feel like I'm going to get to see something new.

I agree with Pat's sentiment.

This felt very much like a welcome to Harry's Wizarding World trailer.

And to build off of what you were saying, Andrew, about there wasn't a whole lot of plot.

This is called Philosopher's Stone, but there wasn't one mention of the Philosopher's Stone.

We don't see Quirl at any point.

And I felt like it introduced Harry's story and it's a very rough introduction at that.

You see the Dursleys, particularly Petunia, but scissors.

Yeah, in the face.

But then it leaves you with that sense of wonder.

And Ron's end of the trailer moment, Alistair Stout.

I mean, he totally made it for me.

There couldn't have been a better ending to that trailer.

You know, Robert Grant was often so much known for his facial reactions.

And I think we're going to get a lot of that with Alistair as well.

Just in what we've seen of him very briefly in this trailer.

And then overall, when we will talk about this when we go through the trailer, the 90s vibes.

They are strong.

They are very strong in this trailer.

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Well, yeah, you mentioned the Dursley.

So let's get into it.

It does open with private drive.

And we see Dudley and Petunia and Vernon in separate shots.

You know, there is this line for Petunia.

There is nothing special about you.

And we mentioned getting new scenes that we hadn't seen before.

We see Harry being bullied at school.

I think seeing the way that Harry is treated by the Dursleys and how he's treated at school,

pre-Hogwarts really helps sell this from the get-go as to why adapting the books again

is a good thing.

We're getting more and it's tugging at your heartstrings.

I'm not sure I felt the same way when watching the movie, but this is reminding us of the

emotions you feel while reading or watching Harry Potter.

I think it's kind of like reawakening people's connection to this story, why they love this

story so much.

And what's very interesting about this particular scene is that Harry's covered under the stairs

is covered, right?

You can't see it upon the first look into the Dursleys home because it's behind that

plant.

Oh, okay.

I did.

That's not even registered.

Even they don't want to look at him.

I also really appreciate about this and like my first reaction to it was, holy crap, Harry

Potter is going to get the HBO treatment and I love it because there are a lot of themes

in these books that the movies either had to sanitize or circumvent because they needed

to maintain their PG ratings, HBO doesn't have that problem.

Now I still think they want this to be a family show, so I don't think it's going to be like

Harry Potter rated R, but I think they're going to be able to lean more in to the really

difficult and challenging themes.

And of course we're getting, I think most of what we're seeing in this trailer is probably

from the first couple of episodes of the season, if I have a guess, but I love that they're

not shying away from that because that is Harry's origin is that he grew up an abused

child.

And the movies, I feel like kind of, again, it's clear that the dursleys are abusive

in the movies, but more often than not, they are comedic relief.

It's like Harry's crappy aunt and uncle who are mean and then funny stuff happens to

them because they suck and everybody loves to see it.

It's cartoony and it's a completely different experience now watching the actress who plays

Petunia, tell Harry with a scissor to his face, there is nothing special about you.

And you see that her hatred and fear and prejudice that caused her to abuse him in this way,

his caregiver.

The woman whose blood related to him is so inferior of him and so hating of him and prejudice

against him that you see how this manifests and that's very uncomfortable, but it's exactly

what the message we need to learn is that this is how abuse happens and this is not okay.

Yeah.

Well, and also what I love about it too is that, you know, when they were shooting the

first film, obviously the books weren't complete.

So nobody knew about Petunia's whole backstory, right?

And so we have all of that context now so you can really see how she's being incredibly

punitive towards Harry and taking all of her frustrations out on Harry.

It's really towards her sister, right, and not getting a Hogwarts letter herself.

Yes, exactly.

And still wishing that she had.

So speaking of heartfelt after these Petunia scenes, oh, and by the way, I think at least

one person in our discord mentioned, she's pointing the scissors at Harry, almost like

you would hold a wands, which I think is kind of interesting.

That's so cool.

Yeah.

Right, catch.

Yeah.

And she's got blonde hair, which yep, but Petunia does in the books, but Camilla also believes

that Petunia's eyes look similar to Harry's, but his eyes are blue, which we can talk about

later.

Still not.

So hopefully they make, yeah, I'm saying, but hopefully they make Lily's eyes blue just

for a consistency.

But I did want to go back just to the cupboard under the stairs for a second, because I was

watching a video earlier and credit to YouTube user movie flame pointed out there's actually

a dust buster and a walkman in the cupboard.

So again, just kind of keeping with that 90s theme, those are things you wouldn't generally

find in a, yeah, any room probably in 2026, yeah, we could almost call this a period piece

at this point.

This was 30, 40 years ago, you know, I'm not surprised to see them doing details.

Well, and his Harry on the floor is that what I meant to believe is like at least Dan

Radcliffe got a cot.

This looks like not a barely even a mattress pad that he's on, yeah, it's probably something

shabby like that, like a concrete floor.

So Harry does receive his Hogwarts letter in this trailer.

And then we get to some really touching scenes between Harry and Hagrid, they're riding

on the London Underground.

They're going to go shopping for all of Harry's things, of course.

And Hagrid has a line here.

Her parents were the kindest, bravest people I ever met.

They were funny and in clever.

They stood up for what they believed was right.

That really got me.

They stood up for what they believe was right.

I feel like, you know, at this point in the trailer, it's really hitting me what the openness

of the world, like what the limits to what the show can do.

And they can do so much more than the movies ever did.

So when I'm hearing Nick Frost talk about Lillian James and their bravery and their funniness,

I want to see that.

And I want to see more Lillian James, like I really, really want it.

And it's enough to take Hagrid's word for it, but we don't have to.

And you know, I'm just hoping for a future flashback that explores all of these characters'

relationships more.

How are you all feeling about Hagrid so far?

I think he's slightly less of a caricature.

And I kind of kind of digging that.

I think that, you know, the Robbie Coltrane accent and the character that, you know, the

function he serves in the movie doesn't have to be as grounded as this one line that

we've just analyzed.

Yeah.

It feels less presentational.

You know, we just meet Hagrid in the movie a minute ago and he's like, whoa, off to

buy your school things.

You know, it's a little bit different than this sort of calm moment on the train of, I

knew your parents.

Yeah.

I mean, funny.

One I ask is some people are criticizing it already.

And I feel like we were hearing a lot of that when that first photo came out a few months

ago too.

It's not bothering me yet.

I think it's too early to say he's calm in that moment with Harry because he's having

a heartfelt, important conversation with him.

You know, later in this trailer, we see him doing snow angels.

So I think he's going to be that's right off of page 113, by the way, I looked it up.

You joking, right?

Yes, absolutely.

Okay.

No, no, no.

You guys get your books.

I think you have to give it time and you brought this up, Andrew, when you did the original

trailer review that it's going to be very hard for people to separate the original actors,

especially those who have passed at this point from the ones that are now taking over

these roles.

Like you're talking about iconic British actors and actresses who are in this original

movie series.

It's hard for these actors and actresses now to step into these roles.

And I don't think it's fair to compare.

You have to let them establish the character in their own right over the course of these

eight seasons.

I agree.

I think, like I was saying during that YouTube livestream, people are going to have to...

We're asking people to unwind what has been burned into their head since these movies

started coming out.

You know, talking about Hagrid, you're a wizard Harry.

Like, it is going to be hard for me too, I think, to hear Nick Frost perform that line

and not compare it to Robbie Coltrane's delivery.

You know, we just...

We all have certain lines in our head that we have a certain way of expecting them to

be delivered.

I love this advertisement for Hertz.

Yeah, I'm noticing that too for the first time, is there a product placement in this

trailer?

Hertz are driving people up the 12th.

It's product placement, but for the 90s, right?

It's like what?

Did you ever have a Hertz donut?

What's that?

Did you ever have a Hertz donut?

No.

That never got done to you.

Please don't make my arm.

This is my arm the next time we see it.

Somebody would punch you and be like, Hertz, don't it?

Yeah.

Okay, that's very funny.

That's very funny.

Yeah, I'm speaking of that.

I mean, that's a very...

That's a very deadlyism, Micah.

Are you sure that you don't...

Oh, yeah, we didn't...

Did you get your tie at the same place?

No, yeah.

Yeah, I think we did.

We did.

Micah, you felt you and Dudley have the same tie.

Let's pull this up.

Close.

This tie right here?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, I could see that somewhere.

It's the same tie.

It's close.

It's maybe a little off-color, but...

I declare can in same tie.

Yeah.

So, then Hagrid says to Harry something along the lines of the next time I see you, I'll

see you at Hogwarts.

And then there's this great shot of Harry running with purpose towards the platform nine

and three quarters brick wall.

We don't see him actually go through, but I love...

I love how the cameras following him and he's just...

You can see how seriously and passionately he is running towards that wall.

And then the next shot is Harry on the Hogwarts Express looking at Molly saying goodbye to

Ron.

I love this.

Mm-hmm.

I read...

Because it's the mother-son relationship Harry never had.

Yes.

I like...

He really is on the outside looking in.

And then the other piece of this that I really love, if you like cut to the next frame

of this pause, there's Jenny in the reflection right next to Harry staring out the window.

And I was like, oh, this is so clever.

Well done.

Yeah.

So, for those not...

For those not...

Harry's face is heartbreaking.

I know.

Yeah.

I know.

Yeah.

You know, again, I think...

Well, I really did a great job of selling people on why there should be another adaptation

of this series.

Yeah.

And yeah.

So, Jenny and Harry, through a reflection, are almost staring at each other.

They're not.

But the shot is set up in such a way that it's almost foreshadowing, which I think is

pretty amazing.

I expect to see in the next trailer a Argus Filtson Madam Pints shot that's just like

this looking through the dirty glasses of the trophy room.

But no, you know, another thing here, I think Molly Weasley is very often a caricature in

the early books, too.

And certainly in the movie, I think Julie Walters is a great job.

But here, as the woman holds her son who's going off to Hogwarts for the first time, you

get that love.

You get that love that she feels for him.

And it's not...

You know, in the book, she's just like, all right, Fred, George, you go, you know, and

it just doesn't have this moment for Harry to be thoughtful and introspective and alone.

And I think so.

Yeah, I think the adaptation is really good at that.

So then we get to the Hogwarts Express, pulling into Hogwarts Station.

And we see Hagrid leading the first years to Hogwarts.

Now, do we think he's about to lead them to the Boats?

I think so.

Yeah.

They got to have that boat scene.

It's kind of iconic.

Yeah.

But there's knocking on the door, too.

So we'll get to let them in.

Hello, let us in.

Well, I guess you know, it seems a little silly from the knock on the door before letting

them in.

But maybe it's part of the...

It's in the boat.

It's in the boat.

A magic of knock on the door.

Yeah.

And he knocks on the doors three times.

So is the underground.

The underground lake is in the book.

They were the...

We're the boat's dock.

And then they go up to the castle.

And Hogwarts, like you see, well, everything's in Hogwarts, like you see.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I'm really interested in seeing that, that area of Hogwarts.

So then we do get Hagrid leading the students or the students come into the entryway of

Hogwarts.

And you can tell that this is the first day because there is a banner towards the top

that says, welcome to Hogwarts first years.

And you see McGonagall welcoming them.

And then we get our first shot, our first look at McGonagall.

She looks great.

Yes.

And the actress playing her is Janet McTier.

I remember her from Ozark.

She was excellent in that season.

Oh, cool.

Yeah.

She was also in the menu.

Oh, okay.

Which starred Ray Fines.

Okay.

That's small world.

That's a good one.

And then we get a shot of the sorting hat.

The sorting hat looks like it's been burned.

Did anybody else have that thought?

It's black.

I think it's black.

I think it's book cannon.

I think it's jet black in the books, maybe.

Really?

I could be wrong.

I just think it looks cool.

And again, it's design choices like these that make me feel really good.

Because I know that there was some concern for a while that they were just going to sort

of be recycling a lot of the same props and locations and sets and things.

They're clearly not.

And that's refreshing to me.

I think that looks cool.

It does.

Yeah.

And they're also refreshing the aesthetics, I think.

Like yes, Hogwarts, the interior.

We haven't seen that exterior yet.

I'm sure that's going to be a big reveal at some point.

But the interior is familiar yet different than we get.

This is kind of like our first shot of the trio in some corner of Hogwarts or maybe heading

to class together.

This made me smile seeing the three of them together for the first time.

Yeah.

And Dominic McLaughlin as Harry Potter, I'm just loving already.

We see all of Ander.

Now this guy's a Game of Thrones actor, right?

Yes.

He played Mr. Kyburn in Game of Thrones, but I really like Anton Lesser overall.

And so I think he will do very well in this role.

He actually reminds me a bit of John Hurt just in terms of his delivery in this moment.

I was going to say though, his hair is more like slick back and combed whereas Allivander

in the movies, you know, his hair is like all over the place.

It's like I'm fine.

Yeah.

We're definitely going for a different approach for Allivander, which I appreciate.

I want changes like this.

Well, then I really wonder if they're going to do the book thing where Harry's like tries

every wand in the shop first.

A whole episode dedicated to Harry trying.

Yeah.

I mean, that's going to be, that's why we're getting episodes one and two, you know, first

on Christmas.

I see.

The second episode has to be every wand in the shop.

Got it.

So we see what is possibly a history of magic class.

Now at least one person, Shane, told me that he's convinced that this is a ghost up

on the, at the podium.

Do you see a ghost here, which would confirm it is, Benz?

Well, can you see a ghost?

Oh, good question.

I see a head.

Yeah.

I do see a head.

Yeah.

But I think it's a safe bet.

Okay.

And I like the aesthetic of this room overall.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just in terms of how they're holding classes.

And what we see on this screen there, I say, like through the projector, looks to be

a side of Hogwarts, right?

That's what it looks like to me.

So maybe this is a sort of like history of Hogwarts lesson.

This looks like the epic universe drone footage that we saw when they were still building

the Ministry of Magic.

And that's what it looks like.

Let's Gryffindor a common room.

Yeah, we get Gryffindor a common room, a little glimpse of that.

Kind of hard to see any details because the camera is also turning at the same time.

But we get our first look too at Draco, Crab, and Goil.

And probably on the right side, that's pansy.

Probably.

It is.

You know what I love about this is having just seen Harry get bullied, having just seen

it.

You can kind of see how Harry, you know, has this wonderful journey into the Wizarding

World, but there were bullies in his former life and there are bullies now.

And I think making that sort of through line to how Harry has to navigate it is really

important for a story about a young boy.

And he'll be more prepared for it now, the bullying.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I wanted to get Y'all's opinion on this because I also paused and studied this frame

a little bit before we were doing this.

These kids look older than the trio.

They're all supposed to be first years.

But I will say like this group just looks like older teenagers.

I don't know if they actually, if the actors actually are.

Or if this was an intentional choice.

My guess is the camera is actually kind of below their eye lines, which is making them

look a little taller, whereas there's other shots of the trio.

The camera is kind of looking down at them.

So what I'm saying is once we start getting shots of all of them together, let's say Draco

and Harry, I'm going to guess that they are going to be the same height.

And maybe that's when you'll feel better about the one set of kids looking older than

the other.

I have to assume they were cast pretty, the ages have to be pretty solar.

Well, and to be clear, I'm not saying I feel bad about it.

I actually think it's kind of clever because you would need to, I think, do something to

drive home, how menacing, Malfoy and his lackeys are at this point in time.

For no particular good reason, just because they were raised by bullies and they're just

following their parents' lead.

I think it is clever if it was an intentional choice.

I was just wondering.

It says that Locke's Pratt is 14 years old.

Oh, well, there you go.

Yeah.

And then it says Dominic is 11.

Can that be right?

This is Gemini in the AI overview.

So I don't know for sure.

Hey, can anyone fact-check them in this court?

Let me know if I have to cut that or not.

Oh, okay.

Wait, another article says 12 years old.

So you're right.

Laura, I mean, there is an age difference there.

It's only two years.

But those years matter.

That's it.

This is actually a shot from Chamber of Secrets, which they've already.

I see.

That explains it.

All right.

Well, we've been talking about different aesthetics and whatnot.

We see Harry and Ron unwrapping Harry's Nimbus 2000, and we see this really cool design

on the box of the Nimbus 2000.

That feels very 90s to me, too.

Almost like when you would unwrap a video game, and you would get the box art for it.

Yeah.

Well, what I'm mainly seeing is a refreshingly different take from Meena Lima.

I'm glad Meena Lima is not participating in this.

Yes.

Love all their work to date.

Love it.

But we needed something new here.

We didn't need them doing this all again.

Right.

Yeah.

We got a shot of Quiddage, and this was also the first still we got the day before the trailer

was released.

So it's a Griffin Dorvus' Hufflepuff match.

Yeah.

Not the first match of the season, but then again, they're in winter, so it wouldn't be.

We also get a look at the Herbology class with Neville.

Neville, yeah, that's Neville next to Hermione.

Yeah.

Well.

I'm one of the Patils, right?

Yeah.

That's Parvity.

And we, did we get a Herbology class in movie one?

We did in two.

No.

No.

Okay.

All right.

We get Harry and Ron.

Wait.

Are Harry and Ron running?

I just realized this.

Harry and Ron are running on top of the table in the Great Hall.

Doesn't that look like that?

Yeah.

It kind of does, doesn't it?

And there's someone else that comes into the frame right towards the end of it.

Oh, yeah.

Look, great.

On the one side there.

They're racing.

That's good.

Let's take it back in.

They're rounding out the roster of Hogwarts teachers.

Now, that is super interesting, actually.

I wonder if this is like something that leads up to the midnight duel.

If it's like Harry and Ron and Draco.

That's what I was wondering.

It is during the day.

So there's that.

But, okay.

And then we get a shot of Harry and Ron on the Hogwarts Express.

And something I like about this scene.

It's a playful moment between friends who are children.

You're just messing around in their compartments, throwing candy at each other as the train

whisks them off to Hogwarts.

Do you know what I'm saying?

It's just like it's something that you wouldn't really get in the movie because there's

no time for this type of thing.

Yeah.

There's no time for leisure.

There's no time for everything.

Every day fine.

The train ride takes all day.

They take off at 11 in the morning and they arrive in darkness.

That's another episode of the show.

They're going to be really faithful with this.

I'm telling you.

You can see that it's going to be, it's like the pit, but you're on the Hogwarts Express

all day.

Absolutely.

Each episode is one hour.

I can't wait to see Scabers.

He's got to be in here somewhere in one of these trees.

He's there in the lower right hand corner.

I think that's him.

Kind of passed out after having too many suites.

Yeah.

Then we get some shots of winter at Hogwarts.

This is another moment that you can only get in a television show where they have time

to show the kids just being kids at school.

And you have the time to show what Hogwarts life is like every day Hogwarts life.

What is that like?

Well, when it snows, they start playing in the snow.

There's this great shot.

I laughed out loud when I saw this for the first time.

Hagrid making a snow angel like, come on.

I'm sold.

And was that Ron and Hermione with Harry or were those two others?

Well, not Hermione.

Well, not Hermione.

Definitely Ron.

And it makes sense because Hermione doesn't stay for Christmas the first night.

Well, what's some interesting news about Hermione and bonus mug?

Oh, and something very cool to point out too about what Harry is wearing.

Mrs. Weasley gives him an emerald green jumper with an H on it for Christmas.

Stop.

That's too cute.

You got to get a closer up of that.

It's kind of hard to see, I think it's just moving.

But yeah, that makes sense.

That's awesome.

That's going to become a meme if it hasn't already.

Hagrid?

Yes.

I was thinking about too.

Was there anything else that I missed?

That looks like that reminds me of a shot from the movies, honestly.

Twisting staircases.

Yeah.

I'm dating up to like a divination, isn't it?

Yeah.

I think this is a Quidditch team shot.

Yeah, this looks like prior to the game, they're having a little pep talk, putting their

hands in.

Go team.

Oh, yeah.

Right there.

That's really cool.

Hey, we're getting a look at the Gryffindor are the Quidditch locker rooms for the first

time too.

Yeah.

Those are roles in the same locker room, crazy.

So here's the shot.

I want to draw attention to.

We have confirmation.

This was a big promo picture to the first one that was.

Yeah.

The first shot was basically this as Harry's walking up to the pitch with the crowd.

So there were a lot of things the movies did that are good and worth repeating.

I'm not sure that giving Harry a Quidditch number for his jersey, of course, he's number

seven is one of the things that I particularly love.

It's not a bookism and there's only seven players.

There's only seven players on a team.

No, there's no substitutes on a team.

You don't need numbers to differentiate them.

And I thought this was an opportunity to distance, get some distance from the movies.

But of course, he's Harry and his Potter and his seven.

I don't know.

I don't like this.

Oh, there's a lot of merchandise with this look on it.

So that's part.

Yeah.

Okay.

And I think also like, I think they are going to make nods to the films.

I don't see a world in which they don't feel like this is a small little Easter egg.

What's actually standing out to me here is that why is Harry walking to the game by himself

as a poor kid, slept in seriously.

I feel bad for him.

He's got friends at this point.

Why is he walking alone?

I don't know.

Then there's this scene presumably in the Gryffindor common room.

It's almost looks like they're roasting a giant marshmallow.

Yeah.

I think so.

I think this is over the Christmas break.

I think they're just having fun.

Like you were saying earlier, Andrew, when they're just being friends on the Hogwarts

Express, this is kind of like another one of those moments.

They're letting Hogwarts breathe.

Sure.

Seriously.

And then we get a shot of Hermione.

We also get a shot if y'all can see, we get a glimpse of the new Hogwarts emblem and

it almost looks like the H has roots growing out of it on the top and bottom, which is

also kind of interesting because if we look at the logo really quick, it almost looks

like there's spots that could be a wand or could be roots.

Like see this second tea, see the tree roots.

Yeah.

Totally.

I don't know what to make of that yet, but interesting.

So will they not wear clothing that has their house emblems on them?

Will it just be Hogwarts?

I'm thinking, no, I'm thinking this is just pre-sorting.

It's got to be pre-sorting, maybe.

Yeah.

That's an episode fully dedicated to the sorting hat ceremony.

You're going to get the song, you're going to get the every name.

Oh, that's going to be amazing.

I can't wait for that.

I think Hermione is probably my favorite casting so far.

She's so adorable.

I can't stand it.

Yeah.

Yeah, she really is.

And she's just like, she's so good.

I believe her as Hermione.

Yeah.

And we haven't even heard any, I mean, if you've listened to the audio, but you have.

I was going to say she's already narrated three books at this point.

Right.

No, but she's just so good.

Does she speak in a trailer or no?

No.

But if you've seen any footage of her playing Matilda on the West End,

it will become immediately apparent to you why she is perfect casting for Hermione.

And yeah, it's just, I'm so excited.

Yeah.

Okay.

Moving along here.

There's our first look at Snape.

We also got an official still.

Y'all, I was getting some text messages from Laura last night.

Go off.

What's on your mind?

Listen, I did not have thirsting over Severus Snape on my bingo card, but here we are.

I, yeah, I was sending, I was sharing some thoughts with Andrew.

It's definitely going to be interesting to watch the show.

Three shots are this, this week's bonus muggle cast, it's just Laura's thirst, actually,

we could do that.

Yeah.

With Laura's permission, I would, yeah, we could, we could post.

I don't know if I want to post what I sent you, but oh, yeah, no, don't do that.

What did you send?

I'll send it to you all later.

It's a little heated rivalry.

No, not quite.

Let's just say this show, some people have been saying this series isn't going to make

the culture impact that the movies did, but there's already some really funny stuff coming

online.

Yeah.

Well, and so the thing is there, obviously, we have heard all of the discourse.

It's not new to any of us or probably to anyone listening from people who are being such

purists about the books and then about Alan Rickman's portrayal of Snape and thinking

that only somebody who looks like Alan Rickman could play the role of Snape, I completely disagree.

But as you do, if you've never seen him and anything else, he is an amazing actor.

And I will confess, he is way too hot to be Snape.

He is.

They couldn't, there was nothing they could do to make him look greasy and oily.

The way that Snape is originally described, but I think what it's going to come down

to is, can Papa portray that same sense of resentful solitude that Snape carries?

I think it's all going to be in how he carries himself and how he portrays the character.

And it's just like a bonus that he's eye candy.

I can't, like, I think the craziest thing about this, like we all know this as the Harry

Potter generation, millennials who grew up with these, the original movies, everyone was

thirsting after Sean Bigger staff in the original movies.

This time it's Snape and that's crazy to me.

But no, that's the thing that strikes me is young Snape.

That's your book purity right there is that Snape is his canonical age, young 30s for

Snape.

Before we move on from the thirsting and Snape, somebody or actually multiple things that

I looked at said, if you look at where his wand is, it's almost like you get a glimmer

of the invisibility cloak.

Oh, oh, really?

It's a little bit of smoke like a little puff.

Yeah.

Tartus.

Yeah, because it keeps hovering.

Yeah.

Oh.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's some smoke there.

That's interesting.

So maybe that's when Harry's in the restricted section or right, there's the moment where

Snape is arguing with Quirl and Harry comes upon him and if I'm remembering that correctly.

You know what's interesting is is at this juncture, like how far are we in the trailer and there

haven't been many special effects were a minute 43.

I want to get to that.

Yeah.

It's going to be part of what we didn't like.

So let's start about that.

Well, Mike has mentioned of the invisibility card, the possibility of the invisibility cloak

is why I'm mentioning it now because I mean, the wand tip is a, you know, a special effect.

But there's not been, apart from the maybe ghost, you know, we saw earlier, there really

hasn't been a lot of magic and I like it because it grounds it in reality.

That's my personal take on it.

That has been one of the criticisms though and I don't say I agree with that criticism

because like I said at the top of this, this is an introduction to Harry Potter generally.

I mean, I don't know why anybody would even bother airing that criticism because obviously

we're going to be getting magic.

I mean, it's just, people just look for things to complain about, but I have seen a lot

of people bringing that up, but there's your magic, y'all, there's the invisibility cloak,

don't you see it?

Okay, so now we get a shot at Dumbledore.

This is the only shot of Dumbledore in the trailer.

He's wearing a different hat than he does at Hogwarts, usually, including the cap that

we see him wearing in an official still, which by the way was such a badass shot of him.

I almost thought of his CGI, it didn't look real to me.

But we see Dumbledore and then he turns and kind of looks over his shoulder.

He's wearing this hat that makes me think this is a flashback of sorts.

He's also holding a sort of like, people have told me this is like a piano tuner normally.

It's a tuning fork.

Yeah.

So I'm guessing he's, this is something involving Flemail and he's trying to seek out some

magic or something.

Maybe.

He does say magic or music a magic beyond all that we teach here.

Yeah.

Wow.

Any other thoughts on this?

I like that suggestion that this is something that we haven't seen before.

I agree.

Shot of the trio.

And then there's, let's play it with sound on again.

We talked about this earlier, probably worth mentioning again.

This is the scene that really sold it for Micah.

Are you really Harry Potter?

I love Harry's little nod too.

I feel like that's more in line and apparently that's what actually happens in the book.

Harry just nods.

Whereas in the movie, he goes, I'm Harry, I'm Harry, Harry Potter, right?

And then Ryan doing that little s**t thing out of his forehead where Harry's scar is just

really, really good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And Ron has the smudge on his nose still.

Oh.

Yeah.

He does.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

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That's pretty much the trailer.

Is there anything y'all didn't like?

We've been very positive about the trailer.

Any other criticisms?

I mean, really the Jersey stands out to me, but I've already voiced that.

So that's that's for me, you know, I want them to have as authentic to the books kind

of looks and feels when it makes sense.

And if they are going to borrow something from the movie, I want it to be something smart

versus something recognizable.

This is not my own critique, but it is a critique I've seen a lot online, but I've also heard

from just talking to friends, and I think it is valid.

There are some people, you know, especially people like us who grew up with these movies

who felt like watching this trailer was a little bit like seeing an alternate universe

reality where like Dan Emma and Rupert weren't cast for these roles.

And so it was sort of like if I went to watch Harry Potter in a different timeline, and

I think it's giving people some uncanny valley.

Yeah.

Feelings.

And I think that's totally valid, but I think that also goes back to the point that you

were making earlier, Andrew, which is that, you know, we have to be able to accept that

this is different.

They're different portrayals.

We're going to see different versions of the characters that we love.

So it'll just take people some time.

Yeah.

I did want to, I think Eric, you mentioned at the top of this too, no headwigs theme.

And I just wanted to say, I'm glad there is no headwigs theme in this.

This show is already facing a lot of backlash mainly because of JK Rowling, but then we

talked previously about people are looking at the photos of Headgrad and being like, well,

what's the point of this series when everybody's just going to look the same?

Obviously, that's not fully the case.

But including headwigs theme, and I do still think they're going to use it for this TV

show, but including headwigs theme, what invited more of that criticism of this more of

the same.

So I'm glad they steered clear of that.

Yeah.

I'm surprised.

I had a fantastic beast movie that hasn't done headwigs theme in its trailer.

So I'm very kind of off put in a good way that maybe the series could stand alone.

Maybe they won't use it at all.

But I will say I'm hoping the next trailer brings us closer to Peeves, the poltergeist.

We did get it confirmed and we'll talk about it in bonus muggle cast that Peeves is going

to be in the series.

It's been kept for me.

I have not seen this.

I'm excited.

It's true.

Yeah.

As as a Ravenclaw, though, I will say, even though we know who is playing Flitwick, I would

have liked to see him in the trailer, well, actually got all the other heads of house,

but that builds on my point.

They don't want to invite the criticisms of, oh, this is just the same.

It's the movies again.

That would have invited that.

Well, then they shouldn't have cast him again, but that's a whole other conversation.

I agree with that too.

I mean, I didn't really have too much of an issue with anything in this trailer that

I felt negatively about.

I was pleasantly surprised.

And, you know, if there was one thing, I think I would just go back to what I said earlier

that we didn't get anything related to the actual plot, but I don't think that was

the intention of this trailer.

Yeah.

So next trailer, plot and magic, please.

And some work, Davis, for Micah and Peeves for him.

And for Laura and Quirrell.

And then what do I want?

Oh, yeah.

I need like at least 50% more hot snake in the trailer.

I want Dumbledore and his Hogwarts gear, not this flashback stuff.

I want to see his full get up.

How about some flamel?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm still scarred from the flamel and fantastic.

So I like don't want to see.

Yeah.

He lives under your bed.

He's like the crib keeper from base head serious.

That's okay.

You can just like touch him and all fall to dust.

I know what I would, I would like, I would like gringots in the next trailer and going

down into the vaults to get Harry's money.

And that would be really cool.

Hogwarts.

That's exterior.

You're right.

Right.

Yeah.

They're saving that.

They're saving that nugget.

All right.

So we asked our patrons, give us your trailer thoughts.

Daniel said, I felt for Harry, the look of pain with the haircut, bullies at school, crying

in his cupboard.

Then the immense joy when he gets to go to Hogwarts, it has very uplifting music.

I'm pumped for Christmas, especially with the Christmas scenes I saw.

Yeah.

Karina says, I can only say I was in tears watching this trailer was so emotional for me.

I think it looks great.

I've always said that I don't want this new adaptation, but I will try to love it since

I can't stop it.

Steph said, only thing that could have made it better instead of the dramatic score ending

the trailer on the Christmas 2026 screen, end it with the audio of the students singing

the Hogwarts school song, loved every bit of this trailer, feed me more HBO.

Megan says, I was not expecting to feel like this, but I teared up, especially Harry looking

so little in his quidditch robes.

This trailer is more than I expected.

It really feels like the book come to life.

The world building seems incredible, and I love the world.

I am now officially very excited for this.

Steph, who was just on the show a couple of weeks ago, as a coast, she said, I was initially

surprised when Bell Pally was announced as Patunius and she's so young, but she eats

this trailer up and is honestly incredible in everything I've seen her in.

Patunia trying to cut Harry's impossibly unruly hair in the book always felt like such

a poignant metaphor for her trying to team his magic.

So I got to be honest y'all, I forgot that was in the book too.

I really need to reread Plus of her stone.

I'm just calling it that from now on.

My copy is called Philosopher's Stone.

Oh my gosh.

So Steph loves that they included that shot.

Daniel Wrightcliffe short hair in the later movies, always felt less magical in that subtle

way.

Also, Kyburn as all of Ander is brilliant casting.

Grishma says, I didn't expect to see so much in the trailer, also getting to see Harry's

muggle life prior to your wizard, Harry, with the abuse from Patunia and bullying in

school wrecked me.

I think they're going to hit an interesting balance of dark themes and lighthearted fantasy

elements from the start feels like the town of the Percy Jackson show to me, which I love.

This trailer is going to get me through the rest of this year.

And Zachary brings us home.

He says goose bumps and tears is how I can describe it.

This teaser felt more like a full entree than a taste of what's to come.

There's only one thing that bugs me and who knows maybe after watching the show, my

opinion will change.

It seems they use the entire budget for everything but the broomsticks.

Maybe it's to add to the whimsical sense of the show, but the box for the Nimbus 2000

seemed way better than the actual broom.

It's a very minor criticism, but as the pod says, we criticize because we care.

Yes, we do.

All right.

Other than that, I love everything about this.

It's the same story we all as kids came to know and love with the films, but very different

and it's its own thing.

I get emotional knowing my kids, particularly my son will get to have the same experiences

I did growing up with this story, just turned the age to receive his letter last month.

Aww.

Thanks for that feedback, patrons.

Coming up on future TV-focused episodes of the show, we remember we're now doing one

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We will continue to cover any news that happens.

I think now the gates are open, baby.

We're going to be getting more in the weeks and months ahead, but we'll also talk about

things like the changes the movie's made to the books that the show must keep in.

What are biggest fears about the show are?

Will Chris Child Cannon be involved in the show?

Will Pottermore content be involved?

Lots more.

We have lots of different topics planned that we've been saving for the TV show.

Again, thanks for planning all that out.

And then we'll just save it for another episode.

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