The Kenny Report | 15 September

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1:01Your path to pharmacy can be closer than you think. West Coast University's hybrid doctor-of-farmacy program can be completed in as little as 33 months, and no bachelor's degree is required to apply. If you've started pharmacy coursework elsewhere, WCU may accept eligible transfer credits to help students keep moving forward. Learn online, train hands-on at our Center for Graduate Studies in Los Angeles, and prepare for real-world pharmacy practice. West Coast University, as real as it gets, visit westcoastuniversity.edu. WCU cannot guarantee employment. This is the Kenny Report. Thanks for joining me tonight. Sorry, Dave. Pauline Hanson apologizes to the Prime Minister and Indigenous Australians, but I'll show you how our political class still ignores our greatest national shame. Senator Jacinta Navagimba Price joins me. The great hydrogen bomb from sprucing the green hydrogen revolution to pretending that been skeptics all along, labors wasted billions of dollars of your money.

2:03I'll speak with Shadow Treasurer Tim Wilson. In the US Donald Trump backs AI while all forms of intelligent life seem to disappear on the Democrat side, I'll cross to Christian Tate, plus the ABC's typical take on immigration, timber on exporting Australian witness and the panel with Susie O'Brien and Steven Senator T. MP, let's get cracking. This album, Easy Labor Government, is so full of lies and broken promises that its members are twisting and turning with all the grace of Reagan as they try to break dance around their previous positions and promised outcomes and ugly backflips and dismounts. Have a listen to the Minister for climate change and energy, Chris Bowen, last night on the ABC telling us about how sceptical he's always been about green hydrogen. I never quite bought all the hype on green hydrogen at the top, but nor do I buy it at the bottom. It's not dead. It does have a future. He never bought all the hype. This Bowen expects this all to rewrite history the way he does.

3:09Have a listen to this hype. We've pointed out how unhinged this is many times and we've mocked him previously on this program. We have an exciting future going forward in terms of green hydrogen. Under the album, Easy Labor Government, these jobs will be secure because we'll be leading the global green hydrogen revolution. And what we know is that the green hydrogen sector has an enormous potential in this country. We have $225 billion pipeline for green hydrogen in Australia. That's across 100 projects. Only Labor has the plan to ensure that Australia is part of and is leading that hydrogen revolution. Bowen and the album Easy sprucing the green hydrogen revolution and telling us Australia was going to lead the world. But now they reckon they've always been wise to the risks. Bowen has overseen the biggest hydrogen bomb since the Hindenburg. And we've warned time and time again that this mob were burning your money in failed green hydrogen

4:16projects. I mean, look at the list of multi-billion dollar plans that have fallen over. There was the Queensland project at Gladstone, a $12 billion dollar dud. The so-called Hunter Valley Hydrogen Hub hundreds of millions gone on what's more like a hydrogen dud. Like the Hunter, they're trying to shift the La Trobe Valley from coal to hydrogen. But those multi-billion dollar plans have also fallen over. In South Australia, the government had $600 million plans for hydrogen at Waiala, but switched that to propping up the steel plant instead. And there were other projects further south and across in Western Australia, a number of green hydrogen projects have fallen over too. It's a litany of wasted taxpayers' money and failed projects. But the green zealots, the climate change evangelists, they see it very differently. Under the album Easy Labor government, these jobs will be secure because we'll be leading

5:19the global green hydrogen revolution. It is such a worry. These people will learn nothing. This is extraordinary. They would have created more energy, burning all those billions in hundred dollar notes, rather than pretending they could lead a green hydrogen revolution. And Boa now says he was wise all along. I never quite bought all the hype on green hydrogen at the top, but nor do I buy it at the bottom. It's not dead. It does have a future. If he didn't fall for the hype, why did he spend all that money? Why did he waste our money? Why did he prattle on about a green hydrogen revolution like some school kid who's just found the latest computer game? In Parliament today, he was called out, but as ever, he smuggly pretended that he's been consistent. You know how many hydrogen cars were sold in Australia last year? One vehicle, Mr Speaker. One vehicle. So there was a lot of hype in previous years about green hydrogen.

6:23Funny how we were able to see the reality here on this programme. We could see what a waste all this government spending and hype would be. That's the problem with Labor. Albanese and Boen on this climate and renewable stuff. They don't care about science, about engineering or economics. They don't care about communities and landscapes and costs. All they care about is ideology. Green left ideology and green left virtue signalling at our expense. They're going to cut out electricity prices by $275 a year. They call renewable energy reliable. They burn money on batteries. They burn money on green hydrogen. They burn money and farming land on solar, wind and transmission projects. And they're burying $20 billion or more in the tunnels of the failing snowy hydro 2.0 scheme. And Boen is still minister. And he waste more of your money hosting climate talks in the Pacific next month, pretending that he's

7:27saving the planet. And we still pay him. You still pay him. And the prime minister keeps him in cabinet. Australia, we are in strife. Labor has been caught out on double standards again, employing a labour mate with a hateful and misogynistic background. When it comes to labour mates, there are few as prominent and loyal as Reese Maldon. He's a former ABC play school host and actor and broadcaster. Maldon first became noticeable in politics when he was out in the bowed as a great mate and accolade of Kevin Rudd's. He even co-authored a children's book with Rudd when he was prime minister. Maldon was very active, very left-wing and very aggressive on what was then Twitter. And he even joined some political panels back in the day on what was then Sky News Australia. That's where I met him. He later latched on to Anthony Albanese. In fact,

8:28the last time I bumped into him was at the Labor Party function in Albanese's electorate the night he was elected. Anyway, unbeknownst to most of us, he must have run out of acting work because he turned up as an employee in a labour centre's office. Not anymore. He was dismissed this morning because of hateful and violent social media posts. There were sexists and offensive posts about my colleague Peter Kredlin. He called Dave Sharma, the former ambassador to Israel, a fake Jew, and he branded Jacinda Namba-Jibba Price a traitor to the Indigenous cause and so on and so forth. He even used the N word in one post. He's gone now and the prime minister claims Labor was caught off guard. I wasn't aware of those comments until they were raised in the media and neither was Senator Dowling. The comments are completely unacceptable and Senator Dowling has taken immediate action and that's appropriate. This is pathetic. Anyone who's known Muldoon over the past

9:34decade or so knows how wild he's been on social media that know how loose he is and they wouldn't have employed him surely without checking his feed. But then I suppose he's a labour mate and if the left didn't bring hateful abuse to the argument they wouldn't bring much at all. If this was a coalition staffer there would be scandal but watch the Canberra press gallery move on. For my sins I watched the National Broadcaster last night. They were running a national forum program, a kind of revised Q&A on immigration. It's the topic of the moment so I thought it was worth checking in on. At first glance this looked more promising than most ABC programs because the political panel had more conservatives than lefties. Seriously they had one nation's barnaby Joyce, Liberal Andrew Hastie and Labour's Anne Alley. No doubt they hoped for fireworks

10:35between Joyce and Hasey but it didn't happen. So there was another panel of so-called experts and it included former National's leader John Anderson but he was flanked by Green Left Agitator and former immigration bureaucrat Abel Rizzi, Leftist journalist and immigration advocate George Miggler-Genius and human rights lawyer Neadeon Neon who talked about the immigration debate being divisive. And it's not divisive because of the migrant, it's divisive because politicians use it as a placeholder to refer to certain group of people as not capable of belonging in Australia. Well let's get to those politicians. Yeah the ABC crowd loved that but remember Neadeon because the ABC used her as an expert commentator while keeping a secret to be revealed at the end of the show. Yet again this program consisted

11:36of the same old ABC pushing its leftist ideological barrow paying lip service to diversity and avoiding the tough issues. I mean we heard gripes from a foreign student, a plea from a single mother migrant who wants to bring out her parents, there was a migrant who wants more help for migrant integration and of course an indigenous representative, it was a trade unionist and leftist, activist Thomas Mayo. The ABC included the farmers representative arguing that migrants are needed for agricultural work and to be fair they did have one man who supports cutting immigration so that it might be easier to buy a house. Yet there was no reference that I saw to Canada a comparable country to ours when it comes to the economy and immigration and how as we've discussed on this program even Canada's centre-left government has drastically cut immigration and that's seen housing costs level out and rents come down. The ABC failed to mention that and

12:38they also avoided the challenges of Islamist extremism, anti-Semitism, terrorism and national cohesion. Instead we heard from a Muslim academic who happens to be married to ABC presenter Waleed Ali. Any time we're talking about dehumanising people and dividing people that is bad for social cohesion. I know the Australian National Eman council this year issued a statement saying the Australian Muslim community is built on a deep desire for harmony, a commitment to our shared Australian values and respect for difference. So I mean let's be honest we know who people are talking about when we're having these conversations and that is not the Muslim community that I know and the 800,000 plus Muslims in this country that we don't recognise that either. What's point there is she saying that Muslims are victims in this country? The only reference to the horrors of Bondi came from Hastie who was challenged about his comment that Australian sometimes don't recognise their own country. 15 people were gunned down in cold blood by people

13:43and they didn't recognise their country. Now I made those comments a couple of months before Bondi happened but I think Bondi was an important data point for those people and I think to cut to the chase whether it's multiculturalism or monoculturalism a nation will only cohere if where's a people regardless of your background, the colour of your skin or whatever, have a set of common loves. Now we all love our families, we need to love our communities but we need to love our country. If we don't love our country then we don't have a shared common vision. Needless to say there was no applause from that from the ABC audience but remember I told you that host David Spears was keeping a secret about one of the expert panelists he shared it at the end. Now dole you're actually planning to leave Australia and renounce your Australian citizenship. Some punchline wasn't it one of the panel had already turned on Australia. How representative is that of Australian migrants? Not very I'd suggest most people who come here can't believe their luck.

14:48Now it's easy for people to think that I have made a decision out of anger. Actually a lot of it is out of grief. There are numerous times where I have known that politics in this country can get to the point where my children and I might have to leave. We wish her well of course but most of us want to improve Australia not shoot through. That's the migration debate there, ABC style apparently. The management of immigration is not the problem but we are. Once again the ABC is actually the anti-Australian broadcast incorporation. Let's go now to Canberra and catch up with Shadow Trojira, Tim Wilson. Tim thanks for joining us. I want to go straight away to this green hydrogen revolution that somehow now Chris Boen suggests he's always been skeptical about. How come that skepticism was never evident in budgetary

15:48decisions because they've blown billions on this stuff. Haven't they? With billions more in the pipeline? Yes, the question was posed today. If you're skeptical at spending nine billion dollars on green hydrogen, we'd be terrified how much money they'd blow if they actually believed in it. Look, this is just the climate change minister seeking to distract. The government has rammed through and consistently pushed the idea that Baselode fuels like gas have no role in the Australian economy. I remember when there was a fight between our current leader Angus Taylor and Chris Boen over whether curry curry should be run on gas or hydrogen and Chris Boen said we'll never have these gas turbines run on anything other than hydrogen. We're now in a situation where we've got one of the biggest steel makers in Australia no longer able to produce. 75% of the steel is produced for Australian construction. This is a disaster and the climate change minister has his hands all over

16:49it and they're coloured green hydrogen. Well, this is it. It's coloured their decisions because they were saying curry curry would run on hydrogen. They're talking about it and this is a big problem. Pumping billions into it and of course while they're doing that, they're not actually firming up our electricity grid and our energy needs in the ways that are necessary. A classic example being Waiala, right? We're now looking at 600 people losing their jobs. That still works needs an electric arc furnace. Who's going to pay for that? And where's it's going to get its power from? Surely a South Australia's renewable driven grid can't power an electric arc furnace. Exactly. In fact, the point was made today that the building I'm in and of course you can see the image of in the back was built by steel that came from Waiala. Now we would have to import it. This is the problem with the Albanese government's approach to energy, the letting ideology dictate their decisions. They're not actually making long-term decisions in the national interest. The problem isn't just they're one of dollars though for the 500

17:51on workers who've lost their jobs. It's a very serious concern and a very much a story about dollars. There's a much bigger story about time because we need to be able to get investment in to drive and drive down the cost of energy for Australians and particularly Australian industry. And every day this government, Mr X their effort, Mr X their time towards pursuing green dreams, we're losing time to invest and build the future of the Australian economy and we will pay a very heavy price. It's a hell of a worry. Let's go to the broader issue of productivity in this country which has been going backwards. Here's Brand Black from the business council of Australia. We've consistently called for a target of a 25% cut in the value of regulation on our economy, comprehensive tax reform that tackles our uncompetitive tax rates in terms of company tax but also income taxes and consumption taxes. And of course our uncompetitive industrial relation system

18:52which is now fundamentally out of balance. It's a big reform agenda. None of it's being tackled by Labor. How much of that could we expect the coalition to take to an election? We're stepping through that policy development now but but make no mistake I'm a reformer at heart. I want to see change. I think that what the government has done on tax is actively disincentivise young Australians who go off and set their own, set up their own in-reve businesses that are more likely to be productive, more likely to innovate and more likely to employ Australians. That's why we've given a commitment to appeal Labor's taxes but I want to see if we can go further and actively incentivise people to set up small businesses on industrial relations. I think it's very clear to me that what the government has done has made it a lot harder to employ Australians and what we actually need is a much clearer simplification of the system and to introduce harmony. But we also need to make sure that it's attractive for investment and investment comes

19:56from removing barriers for regulation in particular. I've spoken publicly about looking at for instance what they do in Singapore where we're within regulators that are currently focused solely on minimising risk that we have to focus on how they're going to promote industry developments so they get the balance right because at the moment we're being sucked down to regulation vortex. The red tape is killing businesses and killing investment. Thanks so much for joining us. Tim, I appreciate it. Tim Wilson, the other shadow treasurer joining us from Canberra. I want to go to Western Victoria now and catch up with Tim Blair from the Daily Telegraph. Tim loved what you've written about the NFL on the MCG last week because some of the pre-match entertainment and the like was really exporting not Australia as a tourist destination but Australian wokeness. Absolutely. It's one of the few things we export these days isn't it? And it's getting, I think it's a value to Australia that our welcome to country and acknowledgement of country ceremonies are being seen from outside and people, one of the earliest responses people have

21:03to our ceremonies is, well if you feel so guilty about occupying stolen land or occupied land, why don't you leave instead of having these rituals at every sporting event and so many other civic events besides if you're that upset just go somewhere else instead of you're doing all this posturing. Yeah, lashing you, Silka, I don't mind a welcome to country if it's happy, enjoy us and welcoming but we do overdo it and let's have a look here's some of the welcome to country from the MCG. We, the voluntary, we're on first people's of this land, respectfully knowledge our ancestors our elders and communities, we sincerely hope you have a wonderful time here at the MCG. We're men, you're tough, welcome. Here we go, so that's what was broadcast live across America and US sports host Clay Traverse Australia has lost its mind with all the woke land acknowledgement and certainty yesterday the

22:06NFL audience saw what happens when a country lets woke in sanity take over the country during COVID as Buck Sestan says Australia was east Berlin with Goalis which is a bloody good line and I agree with it but this is not the image we want to promote our country overseas. No, you tune into something like that and you're like what's going on? Is it a string football game? Is it a cricket game? Is it what's going on? Is it NFL you say? It jabs, it looks different and wrong, it looks like just natural national self-abatement. I've got to say I found it pretty embarrassing. The welcome to country is one thing as I say I'm much more accepting of them than you but sometimes they're over done, I think it was here but have a look here, we've got a bit of Aboriginal dancing on the back of that and this was all going on before the game kicked off and even worse than this which doesn't look like the greatest entertainment. Have a look at this, it looks like

23:08on mass ray gun. I was going to say you know suddenly everyone's realising this. I've had to show this, the on mass ray gun please. They're tip, so ray gun no one's embarrassed about her anymore, we have a group emulating her. Yeah everyone around the world was like oh my god how could Australia send their worst dancer to the Olympics. Now they realise no no she's pretty good by comparison to the rest of us, that's for sure. My word, I haven't actually seen that until you just showed it and I was just wondering if you were playing it at the correct speed. It would be even worse if you sped it up. Now I actually watched the whole thing and my kids are into the NFL, sat around watching that all this is cringe worthy, the entertainment, you know they should have got Kylie Minogin for the NFL as well as for the AFL Grand Final.

24:10Then you would have had Albanese saying something, it'll be, can't have that. You could have that. I want to go to a Republican politician in the US now, who's tackled all the land acknowledgement stuff that the convention have a look here. I'd like to acknowledge that we stand here today and the great state of Texas and the United States of America. My friends we live in the finest country in the history of the world and we're no longer going to apologize for that. A Texas Republican wouldn't surprise you Tim. Oh absolutely but there's no reason why Australian acknowledgements of country can't be more embracing and can't be more widely cast to involve all Australians and not to throw shame and guilt and to try and rebuild and relive the history wars. Why not make welcomes to country generally welcoming and embracing of all Australians. That might actually work. Yeah I think you spot on there, make them more

25:12inclusive and cut out all the hand-bringing. Thanks for joining us Tim. We'll catch up again later in the week. Tim Blair you can read his stuff in the Daily Telegraph. We better get to a break on the other side. I'm going to catch up with Kristen Tate. We'll talk about Donald Trump saying that AI is the race America needs to win. Dave Roberts here. There you are surrounded by fans, sharing wings, sharing drinks, high-fiving random strangers. Everybody remembers the game. Nobody remembers the guy coughing behind you until a few days later. At 2 a.m. you wake up with the fever and your throats on fire. Now what? Urgent care, clothes, ER, slam, telehealth, maybe but the pharmacies close. You needed a medical emergency kit. These aren't first aid kits. They contain essential prescriptions used for over 30 common conditions, sinus and ear infection, UTI, stomach bug, travelers diarrhea and more. On hand before you need them. Use your doctor-developed guidebook to select the right prescription or call their telemedicine doctor standing by.

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27:18Ma. Emma's vacation is a cautionary tale. If you're coming this way, don't forget to tell your friends and neighbors goodbye. Visit Greenville, South Carolina, but you may never want to leave. Learn more at visitgreenvillesc.com Your path to pharmacy can be closer than you think. West Coast University's hybrid doctor of pharmacy program can be completed in as little as 33 months and no bachelor's degree is required to apply. If you've started pharmacy coursework elsewhere, WCU may accept eligible transfer credits to help students keep moving forward. Learn online, train hands on at our Center for Graduate Studies in Los Angeles and prepare for real-world pharmacy practice. West Coast University, as real as it gets, visit westcoastuniversity.edu. WCU cannot guarantee employment. Let's go to the US where the AI debate is growing. As we showed you yesterday, Donald Trump is rejecting calls to slow down the development of ever more powerful AI engines. We're leading China and AI. We're a most sophisticated country in the world

28:22and frankly I want to keep it that way because whoever wins AI wins and we can put guardrails, we can do this and that, but I think you have a lot of negative forces and bringing it up that shouldn't be bringing it up and they're bringing it up things that won't happen. I put to our US analyst, Kristen Tate, that Trump is right. The AI race is a bit like the arms race of days gone by. I don't know, Chris. I'm skeptical of AI as are so many other Americans. Look, obviously, President Trump is correct. We don't want China dominating us in AI, but I think Americans are right to be skeptical of this. Look, I'm worried about jobs. I'm worried about what this technology is actually doing to children and education. Imagine an entire generation of Americans or an entire generation around the world that never has to be bored, never has to memorize anything, never has to sit with a difficult book, never has to spend three hours working to write something only to realize it's horrible. I mean, these aren't just stupid things about

29:24childhood. These are really important things about childhood that shape interesting intelligent humans were losing all that. Sure. I share your concerns. I I skis the for Jesus out of me, but I tell you what, I'm with Donald Trump, though. I want America and the free world to be at the leading edge of it rather than China because they could dominate the globe with it. So it is a hell of a conundrum. Let's see what the vice president, JD Vance has got to say about it. I feel a little bit weird about the fact that you have so many frontier AI tech companies kind of coming to the government and begging the government to regulate them. It feels a little bit to me like a bit of a Trojan horse. So I think we just have to be careful about this. The other thing the president said pretty consistently is we know that the Chinese are engaged in this long term AI race against the United States. We want to make sure the United States we do things smartly, but we stay ahead of the curve. There you go, Kristen. He raises a really good point there. I think that this is an industry asking to be regulated.

30:27Yeah, I mean, obviously JD Vance is correct to be suspicious when these AI companies suddenly come begging to Washington to regulate their own industry, but big corporations have a long history of supporting regulations that they can afford knowing smaller competitors can't afford it. But Americans are right to be skeptical of AI at large. And one of the biggest emerging kind of issues as we go into the midterms, Chris, is these AI data centers that are popping up all around the United States. These are huge windowless energy sucking data centers. They're ugly and they're using a ton of water while Americans are in their houses. Their little houses being told you know that they can't turn on their lights and you know they get their their energy bills are through the roof while America's huge AI corporations are just planning to you know use unlimited basically amounts of energy on these data centers. So this will be a really interesting topic as we go into the the coming elections. And it's it's fascinating because it kind of cuts

31:28across party lines as well. Sure does. It's a bit of a nod in my backyard this scenario playing out here and the fear of the new and the fear of something that we can't control. We can't really understand AI, little and control it as ordinary citizens. I want to go to the immigration debate and the way the Democrats are now using some law fair to channel to challenge what Donald Trump and the federal government are doing. Let's have a listen to the mayor of New York. The federal government finalized a set of drastic and unlawful changes to our country's public charge rule. A rule that makes it possible for someone to be denied immigration status based on the likelihood of their need for public benefits. New York City is leading a coalition of cities and counties to sue the federal government for the gross illegality of their new public charge rule and the irreparable damage that it will cause. First and will this create problems? Will a full Donald Trump or will he relish the fight? No, this is not going to create problems for President

32:29Trump. I think the vast majority of Americans agree with the administration on this. Look, if you come to America, should American taxpayers be obligated to support you? This administration says no and right now in this country, Chris Americans are working two jobs in many cases and struggling to pay for basic household items like groceries and then we haven't even mentioned health care and housing. These things are all through the roof. Why should that same worker be forced or expected to subsidize someone else's decision to come to the United States? It's absolutely ridiculous. Yes, we are a nation of immigrants, but we want people who are self-sufficient here and are going to be a net positive to the country and to our economy. Okay, let's go to one of my favorite U.S. politicians or former politicians that is, of course, Kamala Harris. I know a favorite of yours. And Gavin Nusim has said that if she runs to be President in 2028, he won't run against her. I can't believe this. Have a look. Rokana, Kamala. I don't know if she runs, but we'll see. I know she's called

33:33around. Yeah. When I went, I wouldn't run if she ran. If she runs, you will not. Of course not. Why would I? I wouldn't do that to her. I wouldn't do it to me. Why would I, I wouldn't do that to you? I wouldn't waste everyone's time. What amizing. What's the reaction to this plane, Christian? I mean, people are acting shocked at this. I don't take this extraordinary display of chivalry at face value, though. What Gavin Nusim is doing is he's making a smart bet here that Kamala Harris won't run because then he gets to spend the next year saying, I would never do that to my friend Kamala. But if she, so she steps aside, you know, suddenly he's the loyal friend, rather than the wealthy white guy, he tried to shove the, you know, the black female vice president aside. What fascinates me as well is that Nusim isn't saying Kamala would beat me. He's saying, I, I'm not allowed to get into this fight with her. And this is all about G.E.I. and the objects of this kind of privileged white man appearing to challenge a powerful, she is powerful,

34:35the Democrat party, a powerful black female politician. Maybe this is his public hint for her to make up her mind and declare she's not running sooner. Yeah, it could be. I still think he's betting that she's just not going to run. There's been a lot of chatter about whether she will. I've even heard from friends of mine in DC who say, you know, this is, this is really considering it. But when it comes down to it, maybe she just won't do it because the polls are, are pretty bad showing what her odds would be like. All right, we will see, Christian. Thanks for joining us again. Thank you very much, Chris. Of course, the thing is, as soon as Kamala says she's not running, no one's going to pay any attention to her anymore. Stick around because up next, it's been a sorry day for Paul Enhanced and apologizing to the Prime Minister and Indigenous Australians. But I'll show you how our political class still ignores our greatest national shame. Senator Jacinta Napa-Gimba Price, next.

35:36I want to talk about our greatest national shame, a shame that's ignored all too often. But let's start with Paul Enhanced and who's created outrage all over the place in recent days. But it started to walk back her comments. There was the attacks on Andrew Hastie, dubbing him a traitor in a one-nation cartoon. But last week, Hanson told me she respects Hastie's service. Of course I do. Of course I do. I don't think he is a traitor and I've never called him a traitor. Then today, she apologized over those comments criticizing the Prime Minister's mother for living in social housing all her life. I was referring to House Commission at that time. So, if he's taking offence to it, well, I'm sorry for that. And that just leaves these remarks revived from a podcast a year ago. They're most primitive race on earth. And we're supposed to be holding up and saying what they've achieved. They've achieved nothing.

36:38Yeah, there was plenty of outrage over those comments and today another apology. If other people by using that, yes, I will apologise for that. So, that's that, hey, the media frenzy is over. Hanson is suitably admonished and we all move on. But hang on, aren't there bigger issues at play here? Isn't this a classic example of where media and politics focuses on the noise, but forgets what really matters? Well, yes, it is. Because on the weekend, the Australian newspaper shared a shocking report about a situation that should never occur in this country. In Port Headland, in Western Australia, just minutes from where mining export facilities add billions of dollars a year to our national wealth, up to 15 Indigenous children are routinely left without adult supervision in appalling conditions. In this house behind me, we've discovered up to 15 children aged between

37:42five and sixteen who've been living here unsupervised for days at a time. Residents have complained to police and housing and the council, but so find nothing. The parents leave them alone and bugger off, get drunk and what else? And leave these kids, you know, it's like it's inhumane what they're doing. And I have to say it's inhumane from DCP and other government institutions, not to look after that, to look away. Just intolerable stuff. Yesterday, the federal minister for Indigenous Australians, Melondary McCarthy called a media conference. And what do you think her issue of great concern was? Have a look. I certainly feel for First Nations people in regards to the comments made by Senator Hanson. It's totally outrageous, completely racist, but it also divides our country in a way

38:44that we do not want to see happen right here in Australia. Yeah, it was the Hanson outrage that troubled her. A journalist for the Australian newspaper was at the media conference and was a little more concerned about the welfare of Indigenous kids. After all, as the newspaper had reported in great, great detail, these kids in Port Headland were living in these unforgivable conditions without welfare intervention, even though three children in that same area of South Headland were killed four years ago. Three small children are dead murdered by their mother in a vicious rampage, but the West Australian Department of Child Protection had known for years that the hawk children were at serious risk of harm. I told my granddaughter whenever she felt unsafe to run from the house, to run to the phone box they call grandma, they felt very scared all the time

39:49crying because mommy was getting far white daddy. Their grandmother Dorothy Payber Talk had repeatedly begged the DCP to remove the children into the safety of her care. Incredible reporting there from Ross Thomas from the Australian, such a horrible point as tragedy that this can happen. Well, when this happens like this it makes our whole country seem primitive. So back to yesterday's media conference, after the minister vented over Paul Enhancin and the word primitive, that journalist, another journalist from the Australian Elizabeth Pike, well she asked a much more important question. In its on a separate issue, will you go to port head land and see for yourself the values of the WA Child Protection Department, following reports they have not investigated reports of violence against children and rape from families and case workers. I certainly read those stories on the weekend in the Australian and deeply disturbing and incredibly difficult reading, but I am reaching out to the West Australian Government as well

40:54to see what is going on in West Australia and I'm happy to keep you across. Have you already reached out to the department? I will be doing that. When will you plan to do that? Well, let me get through this first and I'll be in touch with you. So it's on the ministers to do list. I don't want to be too harsh on Senator McCarthy although she is the minister, but this is a broader point. It's about the political class and the media and the authorities. There's a focus on Indigenous welfare as a political firefight and all sorts of offence taking and claims of racism, but all the while the real problems go unaddressed. All the while children are at risk. It remains our nation's greatest shame. Let's go back down to Cameron. I'll catch up with Shadow Small Business Minister Jacinta Nampajimpa Price. Thanks for joining us Jacinta. Outside your portfolio area, although you've held it in the past Indigenous Australians, but for the minister to be so focused on attacking

41:56Pauline Hanson, rather than what's going on, what's been revealed about what's been happening up in the Kimberley, what are your thoughts on that? I'm gobsmack to be quite honest at such an important issue and an issue that I have talked about for many years now is the protection of our most vulnerable children. I begged the Senate not that long ago following the alleged abduction, murder and sexual assault of my five-year-old niece, but evidently it fell on deaf ears. They asked to take these issues seriously when it comes to Indigenous children in this country. But I'm really pleased that the Northern Territory Government actually responded to this swiftly and introduced amendments to child protection in the Northern Territory to ensure that the human rights of these children are upheld over and above everything

43:01else, including the fact that these bureaucracies, as well as those in leadership, like to prioritise a child's culture over their actual safety. And I've said it for years, and the child protection system is utterly... It's morally bankrupt for starters and it's broken and in Western Australia in particular, if you look at the principles around child protection for children, again, it's ideologically driven. There's cultural consultation must take place with Aboriginal organisations to ensure that it's demonstrated that these kids are connected to the culture. Fifteen kids in a home by themselves is that supposed to be connected to culture? The fact that they've got the kinship principle, but that if there isn't any Aboriginal person or kin available, then they'd be close to home. So what, Port Headlands, the perfect place for

44:03these kids to live under these circumstances? I don't think so. And they're... Also, they must act in ways that are towards self-determination and to reduce out-of-home care. So are those kids self-determining in that house? Is that what they were doing? It's just... It's just... Yeah, but as you say, you've had tragic experience of this in other springs that similar issues here playing out in Port Headland. You talk about this emphasis from the authorities on cultural sensitivities. There's also a big fear isn't there, post-Stold and generations. You can't take these children into care because then you're accused of stealing them. And that's precisely why there's this ideological approach in place, which, you know, with all due respect to the stolen generation, those circumstances were completely different to the current circumstances. And those provisions have been brought about by individuals who are amongst some of our most privileged Australians who have got an education in English, who often sit in some

45:07of the most highest-paying tax payer jobs throughout the country and head up many Indigenous organisations. So it's irrelevant to those circumstances and relevant to the circumstances now where children are being left in utter neglect dysfunction allowed to be murdered by their own mother when their grandfather has begged child protection over and over and over again to protect those children. They're not listening to Aboriginal people who are seeing this firsthand, living this experience begging to be able to protect their own grandchildren for crying out loud and now calling for an inquest. Dorothy Payper talk, she's correct to call for an inquest and she's correct to ask for an apology by the premier. He should get off his backside and apologise to this poor woman as well as the minister to consider it, consider it. You know, this is a problem with labour that I think it's worth an apology. She lost three grandchildren when it could

46:11have been utterly prevented. We're talking about our most vulnerable children in this country. Such powerful stuff, Jacinda, I'm so pleased to get your view on it and get your forthright recommendations there, but it's taken up all our time. I'll get you back on as soon to talk about small business issues. I appreciate Senator Jacinda Nampagy in the price there about this shame in this nation, the way our bureaucracy and our ideology is leaving children vulnerable to the point of seeing some children murdered, just extraordinary and disgusting. Let us lighten the mood on the other side of the break because we're going to talk about how the PM has spoken overnight to King Charles. What on earth did they talk about? Susie and Stephen, we'll join me next. Dave Roberts here, there you are surrounded by fans, sharing wings, sharing drinks, high-fiving random strangers. Everybody remembers the game. Nobody remembers the guy coughing behind you

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49:19Let's get into our Tuesday panel with Susie O'Brien and Melbourne and Steven Senator Tempo in Canberra. Susie, we woke up to news this morning that the Prime Minister had been on the blower to the King overnight. What do you reckon they spoke about? Melons? No, just kidding. What did they talk about? Well, possibly they talked about Harry and Megan's return to the UK, which is absolutely fascinating. And also, apparently they talked about the importance of the relationship between the two countries. And Albo, who was very much been seen as a Republican in the past, is doing his bit to suck up to the King. Yeah, look, here's what Albo put on social media. He put up a post where he said a privilege to speak with his majesty, King Charles III. The seed thing, his affection for the Australian people remains strong. I extended Australia's best wishes to his majesty and the royal family. Well, good on you, Albo. And I'll Republican

50:20that you are taking a call. It seems a bit quite to me, Steven, that there's got to be this phone call with the King. What for? There's a King's representative here. We've got to govern the general. Just go down the road and chat to Sam Austin. But I love Susie's idea that he went with the Melons joke, because Charles would have loved that. But maybe he is trying to maybe Charles is looking to off-flight the Megan and Harry. We got room for them at Dubai or something. No, no, no. You're all missing. You're all missing the point. He was on the phone to the King to find out how do you get to live in public housing for your entire life. That's what it was all about. Yes. He knows no different does the King. Now, I want to get to this controversy over the Sydney Swini ad. What they're advertising. What it's all about. I have no idea, but have a look. Thank you, no sports. Prove it. No big airs. Just sports. So they wanted a show. Just sports.

51:23You can trade this sport. And this sport. How about this? This sport, Tim. So they're advertising something to do with sport. I don't know what, but as ever with Sydney Swini, there's a lot of flesh involved. But I want to go to the reaction, and particularly from female sports people. Have a look at this from the swimming champion, Ariana Titmuss. She says, not only is it a kick in the face to every woman who's dedicated her life to perfecting her craft, but every woman who enjoys sports for what it really is. How do we live in a world where monetising a woman's body and sexualising women's sport is still a thing? What do you reckon, Susie? It's so hard this one because if Sydney Swini didn't look the way she looked, no one would be caring, people would be calling it empowerment if she was twice or three times the size she is. She looks amazing. It's a bit hard not to look. This is coming from a red blood and heterosexual

52:26woman. However, it's interesting because when it's someone who looks like this puts themselves out there in a way that she wants, she's choosing. People say that's empowerment, but the minute men say, men say they like the look of it, that it's all about men, then suddenly it becomes exploitation. This has got as much to do with the way she looks as it does the men looking at her. Yeah, I don't know about the exploitation. Here's another person, a female who's brought into this, Laura Dyson, she's an online coach for fitness and the like. She said, Sydney Swini, you're at Piss Me Off, not because she's naked, because of who's watching. And she's saying because women are watching and Steven, she's saying, and many others have said this, it's demeaning of women in sport. Why not celebrate all those women who are doing a round of tipmas and great things in sport instead of some sort of semi naked beautiful actress.

53:27The point is Chris, it's not actually about sport from what I understand. I think it's about sports betting or sports, which is the same thing. I'd say something like that. Well, but is it? Well, these days it is, but we're talking about here in Parliament at the moment, aren't we? But now, look, I don't think it's not demeaning to women. I mean, clearly Sydney Swini doesn't have a problem with it. She actually has an equity share in the company she's advertising. I don't think it has any impact on women's sport at all. It's now my new favourite out. I'm not quite sure what it's about. Sorry, Father Josh, but yeah, look, I get no problem with it. Well, yeah, actually, someone in the office today said, you know, it's brilliant advertising because it's promoting all this and some gambling app. Well, I'm a bloke. I've seen the out of few times, and I've got no idea what it's about, you know, you know, I think they might need to put the name up a bit more prominently. But I think it is an interesting question because this female sports getting such good attention these days, and then, suddenly, sports gear is just an excuse for Sydney

54:28Swini to strip off, I suppose. Let me go to something else a little bit confronting. This is quite good fun. We know Pauline Hansen likes to kick the ABC out of their press conferences. This is the Gold Coast Mayor Tom Tate. He's under a grilling about whether or not he had a meal with Donald Trump, but he turns it back on the reporters. Have a look at this. Are you from the ABC? Yeah. Are you from the ABC? Yes, it's the reporter, Suzy F off and off he goes. That's kind of what Pauline Hansen's thinking, but she doesn't say it that bluntly. Well, at least they got in the press conference. He's much better than one nation. But the funny thing is he's been quizzed about whether he had lunch or dinner with Trump and he's sort of denying it and they're saying, oh, that Trump's saying it didn't ever happen. And he comes up with his famous line, which is, I'm telling you what I believe to be true. Once people start saying, not it's true, but I'm telling you what I believe to

55:28be true, you know, he's probably been caught out. As George Costanza famously said, if it's not a lie, if you really believe it, Steven, did you like his blunt approach? Chris, let's be honest, you and I have both wanted to say that to the ABC for a long time. So this guy's our hero, isn't he? Look, you know, the reality is though, it was an aggressive line of question. You ever think that it's something that means nothing to the Gold Coast. I mean, this place, the Mayor of the Gold Coast, they're probably what is Donald Trump trying to develop the strip or something. If he's not, then who cares? Yeah, yeah. Well said. Thanks for joining us, guys. Catch you next week. Cezo Wright and Steven Senator T. M. Poe just a bit of time to share some of your feedback from what we had to say last night about what's happening in Y-Alar. Phil says, we now can't make steel. We can't make cars. Surely we can get rid of Anthony Albanese. He really thinks this is a good result. Another person says, labor thinks they change the world's climate. And in years 24 viewers says the beginning of the end of industrialisation,

56:30it's sad that most of the workers, blue collar workers, most likely would have voted labour in the past. Thanks for joining me. We will be back here tomorrow night with plenty to talk about and plenty of people to talk to. Here's Peter Kredlin.