The Patrick Madrid Show: October 05, 2026 - Hour 3

0:00We usually don't pick up age hikers, but I'm gonna go with my instinct on this one. Sad lot partner. Compelling insights, unpredictable conversations, encouragement for your day. It's the Patrick Madrid show on relevant radio. Okay, back to the phones. The number again, 88, 914, 9149. Call that number. Get you on the air with your comments or question. We'll go next to Ann in Martin'sville, Indiana. Hello, Ann. Hello. My question is, okay, I've got a friend. She's my hairdresser and I love her to death. Who plays? She's got a thing called playing the bowls where she has this room. You lay down and it's real quiet and they have music playing. And then she plays these bowls. Yeah, sometimes she partners with people who have yoga, the raky things like that. So she invites me all the time.

1:01I would love to go and I would love to go to yoga, but I don't know if that's okay or not. Well, yoga, of course, is a prayer form associated with Hinduism. It's part of Hindu prayer. Hinduism is polytheistic. So the different poses are related to supplications or meditations, perhaps with the mantras, etc. On different Hindu gods who don't exist. So you have to be aware of that. Even though the practice is mainstreamed and many people, maybe most of them in the west here, they don't do it for any religious purpose. They're doing it because they want to stretch and get limbered and all that. Everything wrong is going to stretch and be limber. But what I think many people don't realize is that they're practicing a form of Hindu mysticism without realizing it. So that right there would be the reason for pause.

2:07Why should I do this that is a Hindu prayer form? Even if you don't believe in the Hindu gods and goddesses, you're doing something that is Hindu and Hinduism with no disrespect to any of the Hindu folk out there. It's a false religion. It's antithetical to Jesus in the gospel. So people who practice Hinduism, even if I'm sorry, practice yoga, even if they themselves don't think about the Hindu connotations, I would say are venturing into a territory that can be, at the very least, problematic and at the very most, can be dangerous. I've heard stories of, for some reason it's always women. And that may be because I think the majority of people who practice yoga probably are women, if I had to guess. But we've even had a few people call on the program. I'm not inviting people to call until their story. I'm just saying we have had people call and say that they experienced demonic interference

3:09and demonic oppression and other things, the deeper they got into yoga. So what I would propose in is that if they have the bowls going in the salon, bring your air pods in and put on relevant radio and listen to relevant radio instead of the bowls. Not that there's anything wrong with bowls. That sound could be peaceful, could be comforting, could be relaxing, maybe, I guess. I don't know. But if you feel weird about it, either don't go to that salon or just put your air pods in and listen to my program. That's way better than bowls. Okay. Okay. She doesn't do the bowls in the salon. You've got a separate place that she runs for that. No, when I go to the salon and have my hair done, she just has like all kinds of like rocks and stuff. I close my little shelf there. You know, it sounds very new, A.G.

4:09Hey, Sarah, I just thought that could be a great marketing slogan. The Patrick Madrid show better than bowls. It sounds so the Patrick Madrid show on one side and this sound on the other side, which do you go for? It's a pretty tough call Patrick. I'm going with the show. That's our new marketing slogan. The Patrick Madrid show better than the bowls. Better than the bowls. Yeah. And be sure to pronounce it bowls. Thank you. Yeah. Well, that's my thought, Anne. That's my thought. Okay. Okay. I understand that. Yeah, you got it. I can go to the bowls by itself, but long as it doesn't have anything, I can go to the bowls as long as they're not doing any kind of mantras. If they are just put in. I'd say if it sounds like the place might even be more new age stuff than hair cutting,

5:13I don't know. I wouldn't personally be afraid to go there or anything like that, but I would probably be a bit exasperated if they were trying to turn this into a religious experience. I just want to get a haircut in and out. That's what I would do. No, no, no, no. No, no. And out. Here's my $50. Very much. Well, I wish it was $50. No, she haircuts at one place and hair dies and then she has a total separate studio for the bowls. Yeah, I'd say just clip the hair and we'll be done with it. Well, thank you, and I appreciate it. I imagine you look wonderful when you have your hair done like that. Let's go to where we going, John in Bayside, New York, low John. Yes, Patrick. Do we know how old Adam was when God placed him in the garden of Eden? Oh, okay. That's a great question. He was today years old. God made him then and there in the garden. So he didn't have an age. He was created as a fully formed man, it seems.

6:14And he was today years old. Okay. God bless. Yeah, thank you. Appreciate that. Go to Jessica now in Colton, California. I know right where you are Jessica right off the 10 freeway. Yeah, exactly. Good morning, my beautiful family and Christ. Thank you for taking my call. I was calling because my cousin contacted me with the situation that they just recently had. So I listened to you guys and I listened to a YouTube also and there was about Carlo A Guti's and saying that how his mother was told that he's letting us know that we have to be in faith and come to our faith and the Holy Eucharist. So I sent it to my family because some of them have stepped away from the religion. And so she thanked me and she says, thank you for sending me this video. And I needed this long story short. She said that they were cleaning out her house. They found her husband that passed away three years ago, clothing and boots that they

7:19give them at the hospital after he passed away. And so she told her kids that she didn't want the clothing anymore. She didn't want anything of him, especially things that he had when he passed away, but the kids were adamant that they wanted to keep it. So especially the old son. And so he forgot about it and left it at her home. And she saw that that they left it in an closet and she's like, man, I told these kids that I didn't want this here. But she went to work. Her daughter was home alone. She heard footsteps. She heard her door open and closed and she's like, okay, what's going on? So she called my cousin and my cousin rest home. By the time she came home, my niece had already been picked up by her sister because she called her sister too. So she told them like, hey, you know what happened? You know, why are you guys? And she says, oh, we left. Okay. So when she turned around, all of a sudden, she saw a black cat coming from a room into the hallway. And she's like, and they don't own any cats at all. And she's like, this is not, you know, what's going on?

8:21But she said when she saw the black cat that she felt peace and that the cat was very calm and just walking nonchalant. And her daughter's got there. They got, you know, they just look at away. And then my cousin was like, see, I told you guys it's not good to keep, you know, that people stuff, especially when they died away at home. And so when they were on the way to go throw it away in the dumpster, she said that the bag felt so heavy. Like it was really heavy. And she goes and just she goes, it was just close in his boots. There was something that it shouldn't be heavy. And so she was asking me for advice. Like, what do you think I should do? You know, should I bless the home? And I said, the most definitely because they just moved into this new home because they don't want to be in the other home where he passed away and my uncle passed away. And so I said, definitely you need to bless the home. And I said, let me call my good brothers and sisters that relevant, they're ready on see what else other advice that can give us or, you know, if you did the right thing or, you know, whatever you have in mind that you can give us. I'll do my best.

9:21So they were in the new home then, right, with a black cat. Yeah, this is in the new home. Okay. So it's entirely possible. Let's consider the natural options here first. It's entirely possible. This is a cat that the previous owner fed or, you know, allowed to come around or maybe the cat just found his way into the house. If they're newly there, that could be an explanation for that. Is it possible that there's some preternatural explanation? I suppose it's possible. My mind typically though goes first to what's the natural explanation for this? Maybe it was just a cat who got in the house. Right. The sense of weight or heaviness of the clothing is that preternatural? Maybe possibly. But what does it mean exactly? My best advice, I think, would be just to ignore these phenomena, just ignore them. Have the house blessed. If you feel or they feel rather that any kind of paraphernalia that they want to get rid

10:25of, get rid of it. Don't give it a second thought. Don't overthink it would be my advice. Again, if nothing more happens, nothing more happens, everything's fine. If there's any kind of persistent weirdness or what, you know, is so out of the ordinary that it could be a preternatural thing, could be diabolical, demonic harassment or something. Because that is real. Right. But it wouldn't be my first assumption. My first assumption is that this is just natural stuff. But if that's something that they begin to see or it can, it persists, then I would say, yeah, absolutely. Ask the parish priest to come over and with holy water, bless the entire home. Go through every room in the home, bless the home, and with the holy water and images of Jesus and Mary present in the home after that. It puts all the entities out there on notice. This house is a place of God.

11:26This is, we followed Jesus here. And you know, the demons don't like that. The good angels love it. And I would recommend that for sure. Okay. Okay. Sounds good. Thank you so much. You have a wonderful, blessed day. Thank you. Nice to chat with you. And by the way, by the way, you know the interchange with the 10 and the 215 freeway, right? Where you are. Yes. Just north of you is a place called the inland center mall. You know, that place, right? Yes. I used to work there. Yes, I do. Yeah, back in the days when everybody was at the mall, they were crowded back in those days. Wow. Yeah. That was not that crowded. No, not anymore. No, not anymore. No, not anymore. I think we'll much. Yeah. Everybody's buying on Amazon now. California then. Well, I can visualize the area where you're at. Thanks for the call, Jessica. I appreciate it. Let's go to Keith now in Morengo, Illinois. Good morning, Keith. Yes. Good morning, Patrick. Thank you.

12:26Thank you for taking my call. Happy. What I'm calling about is I have a. A daughter in law. She's about 36 years old. She's been chronically ill. Most of her life as time has gone on. It's gotten more and more serious. She is a noncalc, but has been baptized outside of the Catholic faith. And the question I have, obviously, she's married to my wife. My youngest son. And my wife and I have the question, would she be able to receive anointing of the sick? Well, under normal circumstances, no. So the church's rule, the basic rule here is that the sacraments after baptism are reserved for Catholics. So normally, it would be a Catholic who receives the sacrament of anointing of the sick.

13:31But the church does permit under some circumstances. And typically, it would be like a life and death kind of situation or in danger of death. The church would permit the priest to administer that sacrament, anointing of the sick to a non-Catholic. Ideally, that should be in the context of the invitation for the person to become Catholic, and thus be able to receive the other sacraments as well. Sometimes there's not enough time for that. The person may be slip away. So yeah, the ordinary rule of thumb is that this is for those who are Catholic, but the church in grave situations makes exceptions. Okay. Okay, that makes sense. That makes sense. We're just trying to do everything we possibly could for her. And so much suffering. Yeah. She's not opposed to it either in regards to receiving anything she could that would

14:31help her at this point. What is her situation? Is she near death? Or is she, is she dying or is she expected to recover? No. She's not happy yet, but she's just in a very miserable state of life. And it continues to get worse and worse and worse. Poor thing. That's not the point in doubt. But if it keeps going to what it is, it's going to be there at some point in time. Yeah. And is she, I guess I don't mean to be nosy, but just trying to understand the situation. Is she elderly or is she younger, but just with this illness? 36 years old. Oh, she's far from elderly. Okay. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Let's pray for a concurring. But you know what I was thinking though is that not that the age necessarily matters, but I was thinking that if this could be couched in the form of a gentle invitation to become

15:34Catholic. And so that way she could receive the Holy Eucharist. She could go to confession. She could really receive the strength and encouragement from the sacraments that she doesn't have right now. Yes. Yes. We will definitely take that into consideration. Okay. Yeah. Well, good. Well, let's pray for healing. Yep. Okay. Thank you very much. Yeah. Thank you, Keith. I appreciate that. All right. So we're going to take a break or we come back as we always do. And let me look at the cloud. Oh, look at that. Two hours down. And we're the better part of half almost halfway through this hour. So if you've been thinking about calling and you thought, well, I'm going to call. We'll call now because we have some lines open. 888-914-914. 488-914-914.

16:35Ave Maria Mutual Funds are show sponsor offers investments with your moral values and financial goals in mind. They do not invest in companies engaged in abortion, embryonic stem cell research and other immoral issues. And for info at Ave Maria Funds.com. That's Ave Maria Funds.com. Keeping it relevant. It's the Patrick Neidred Show on relevant radio. Join the conversation at 888-914-9149. That's 888-914-9149. Okay. Back to the phones. Let's go to Lucas in Northern California. Hi, Lucas. Lucas isn't ready. Okay. We'll come back to you. Let's go to John in Pembroke Pines, Florida. Hi, John. Hi, Patrick. It's an honor to speak to you because you are an angel. I've been listening for a few years of relevant radio. And I'm going to talk to people later on because I want to become a major sponsor.

17:41I'll just go through this real quick because I have a question. I know that you're the only person who can answer. My wife died four months ago from dementia. She had brain damage. She was a very religious and devout capitalist. She would do her groceries three or four or five times a day. And the bottom line is that when she was so young, she was very young. She was born in South America and her mother threw out the street. And she lived in a combat with the guns. But to make a long story short, I watched something on YouTube. And I know my wife has been coming to see me sometimes like two or three o'clock and I feel her presence in our home. And like I said, she died four months ago. And they said on YouTube in order to get her to the hospital. And they said on YouTube in order to request a loved one that comes and see you. You have to know the name of her guardian angel.

18:43How do I find that out? Well, John, first of all, my sincere heartfelt condolences for the loss of your wife. May she rest in peace. So I'm here. Welcome. And I know that your time of grieving is very difficult. So my prayers for you as well. Well, I would like to put it this way. That is not true what you saw in that video. And I realize why in grief, we sometimes may find ourselves grasping for some kind of connection with the loved one who has passed away. It's an understandable thing. You know, it's normal. It's natural that you would feel that way. But my humble advice would be to ignore that kind of video because it's not true. Number one, in the ordinary course of events, God does not permit the guardian angels or any angels to tell us their names. It could happen.

19:44And it has happened, but very, very rarely. So the angel Gabriel, for example, in the Gospel of Luke, or the angel, or the angel Michael, for example, Raphael and the Old Testament. But aside from that, even the Bible itself doesn't have any kind of pattern of angels revealing that kind of information to us. So what I would say is ignore any notion that you have to know the names of the angels, because that in itself right there is not true. We don't know even our guardian angels' names. So I would entrust that to the Lord. And the other thing is that there's no place in the Christian life for trying to contact the dead or contact angels other than that we ask them, we prayerfully ask them to pray for us. So we ask the Holy Angels to pray for us. And that's good. And that's sufficient unto itself.

20:46But anything that would suggest to you that you have to do something or know something in order to contact that's completely false, and it's not part of the Gospel. The Gospel includes angels, for sure, as God's ministering servants. But you and I are not in any way required to know things or do things in order to invoke them to appear or anything at all like that. That's where this line between the Gospel on one side and the occult, in dangerous things on the other side. So I would just ignore all that. Pray for your wife, pray for the repose of her soul. If you have moments when you feel her presence, great. I would just say, Lord, thank you. If this indeed is some manifestation of my wife's love for me, thank you for that. I'm grateful for it. But I wouldn't go beyond that. And I would never, ever, ever try to summon or do something that would lead you to think that you're making contact with her.

21:48It's enough that you pray for her. And when those feelings of consolation come, thank the Lord for them. Love your wife, cherish your memory. And yes, you can ask your guardian angel, and you can pray to her guardian angel. But beyond that, I wouldn't do anything else like that. Does that make sense, John? Yes. Can I ask you one more thing? My wife was seven. I'm 79. I spent 35 years in Eucharistic minister and elector. I was very close to Catholic Church. And my wife had said, I have two things to have, I won't keep you much longer. No, go ahead. We have time. Go ahead. When she died, she wanted to be a butterfly. So we have like a tabernacle in our main home. I have a very big home, and I live a good life. And we see butterflies all the time. I see them sometimes out of nowhere. When I'm driving, they come on my windshield.

22:48And I said, I talked to my wife. I said, that's going to be you, honey. God bless you. I know it's you. So that, and also, I just want to ask you one other thing. And this is important to me, because I think of you as an angel. I've listened. I love relevant radio. I swear to God, I am. I am going to do so much for you, people in time to come. But the thing I have to ask you, and I only believe you, if you tell me that. My son, I have a younger son. I have a daughter who is the associate director of university. My mom, he's a law school. Well, my son, who got married eight years ago, to make a law school short, he married to a wealthy, very wealthy family. More wealthier than I am. And to make a law school short, we're treated very bad. And I have a grandson who's going to be three years old. We can't talk to him. We can't see him. And my son doesn't even know his mother died.

23:48April 13th of this year, because he hasn't called her in three years. And my wife's request on her deathbed. Me and my daughter were there, which she took her last breath. Do not tell John in a way. You said, please do not let him know about if I die. And I'm caught between a rock and a hard place. I don't know what to do. Yeah. Yeah, I can imagine. It's got to be hard, John. I'm going to be a little bit more careful. Yeah, I can imagine. It's got to be hard, John. I'm so sorry. I can understand why your wife might have asked you to do that. But on the other side of things, don't you think that your son would have a right to know if his mother had passed away? I would think so. Yeah. But here's the thing I'm thinking. And think about this for a minute. She has now passed on to her eternal reward. And so we keep praying for the repose of her soul for sure. But whether or not you tell your son, we'll have no effect on her one way or the other.

24:51And it may well be that she will have, she will not even know that. So you have a kind of freedom now that you didn't have before she passed away. Because if you choose to tell your son, and personally, if it were me, I would do that. Because he has a right to know. It won't affect her in any way whatsoever. It will not be a negative. She won't be unhappy with you. It won't change her state in the afterlife. That's all now beyond all that. But if I were the son, and my mother had died, I would want to know about it. Yes. Don't you think? Okay. I'm going to, yes. Yes. I'll keep going. You father. I'm sorry, Patrick. No, it's okay. I'm a dad, but I'm not a priest. Sorry, but I don't know. I'm going to, I'm going to let you go, but I, it was an honor and a pleasure.

25:53And thank you for taking my phone call. It means a lot to me. You are most welcome. Anytime, John, anytime. And I'm grateful for your. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Grateful for your confidence. And may your wife rest in peace. May the perpetual light shine upon her. Amen. God bless you. God bless you. Thank you again, sir. Yeah. Thank you, John. 88, 914, 914. I'm going to Lawrence and Raleigh now. Good morning, Lawrence. Good morning, Patrick. I wanted to know here where I can find a marriage prep. I want to know if you have a marriage prep. The resources online that can be used by a couple of getting married outside the country outside the state. That's a great question. I don't have an answer off top of my head, but you might want to check with. Let's see. I want to check with. You're in Raleigh. Check with your diocese.

26:53Go to the diocesan website. And maybe touch base with their Department of Marriage and Family. And ask them what resources do you recommend for marriage prep? Okay. One thing I would recommend would be Archbishop Fulton Sheen's book called Three to Get Married. I would get a copy of that book for the happy couple. And in it, he lays out in a very beautiful way the nature and purpose of marriage, but also how to prepare for marriage the right way. So that God is at the center. That's the meaning of the title. Three to get married. The third person in the marriage is God. And if the couple as their approaching marriage is putting God at the center of everything, it's going to be a great marriage, even if it may have difficulties. It's still going to be a great marriage. So even if you just wanted a single resource that you could hand to them, that would be a good one. Okay. Is this available for purchase? Oh, yeah.

27:53Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Just jump online. You could order it on Amazon if you wish or you could patronize your local Catholic bookstore. I don't know if there are Catholic bookstores in Raleigh. Maybe there are, but you could support them by buying it there. But if not, you could easily get it on Amazon. Three to get married by Fulton Sheen. Okay. Okay. Yeah. All right. Thank you, Patrick. You got it. Thank you. Let's go to Shannon now in Northern California. NorCal as they say up there. Hello, Shannon. Hello, Patrick. Thanks for taking my call. You're welcome. I was just wondering when Jesus is depicted on the cross crucified, and he has a loin cloth, where did that loin cloth come from? Because I would have thought they would have taken that to strip his dignity even more. And I just didn't know what, I don't know. I'm just wondering what that is. Yeah, sure. Well, the biblical evidence tells us that the soldiers stripped Jesus.

28:57And that word stripped can mean like completely, or it can mean that they removed all but a little bit of his clothes. So when we see this in Matthew's Gospel, so in chapter 27, where we read about the crucifixion, it just says they stripped him. So there's no mention of a loin cloth, biblically. This is part of Christian art that, as far back as you see, depictions of Jesus being crucified, and I mean, holy depictions of Jesus being crucified, it seems that this loin cloth was there for the sake of propriety and out of respect for the Lord, rather than portray him this way fully naked. It's a way of respecting Jesus, even though he wasn't respected by the soldiers who stripped him. Was he crucified naked? It's possible. Was there some provision made for a loin cloth as we see, you know, in modern day depictions possible?

29:59But we don't have certitude, one way or the other. All we're told is that they stripped him. Okay. All right, that really helps because I don't know, it just pops into my mind going, wait a minute. I'm glad that he's depicted that way. I'm very glad that I was. I was thinking, hey, I don't know, so thank you. You really? Yeah. Oh, I'm glad. And I realized that this is, you know, one of those topics that it is of interest. We can't know with certitude. But I wouldn't be surprised that in God's providence, because Jesus himself is dying on the cross, that it was through God's providence arranged that he was crucified with at least that covering because of who he is, you know, God himself. Now, that may not be the case. And it may have been that extra form of humiliation that Jesus underwent willingly. But since we don't know, we can only speculate.

30:59Okay. Well, thank you. Thanks for your information. I appreciate it. You have a wonderful death rest of your day. Thanks, Shannon. We'll go to Judy now and Mesa Arizona. Good morning, Judy. Good morning, Patrick. How are you? I'm well. Thank you. Thanks for calling. I have a six year old. She goes to your club and she's very, she believes in God. She believes in everything. Virgin Mary, she believes in everything, except she asked me, I don't believe in heaven. Okay. So I'm not sure I did ask her what she was doing. I'm not sure. I didn't believe in heaven. I just think, I know there's a puratory. I believe in that. But I don't believe there's a heaven. Did you ask her why? I did it. It's just caveat guard because she is very religious. But when she told me that I was like, what do you mean there's not a heaven there's a?

32:01Well, that would seem to me that the best thing to do would be to press a little bit and ask her why don't you believe in heaven and just see what she says. She might say, well, I saw a YouTube video and they said there is no heaven. Well, then you'd say, well, obviously you don't learn your faith on YouTube. Just because somebody on YouTube said something doesn't mean that it's true. You know, where do you think these souls of those who love God go? Where do they go? I think she said, I don't think there's like a physical heaven. So I just got me off guard. I don't like what do I tell her? Okay. Well, that's a slightly nuanced issue here. So it doesn't sound like she doesn't believe in heaven per se, but she doesn't feel that she doesn't believe that heaven is a physical place. Is that right? Correct. I believe that's... Yeah, and we don't have to press that point very hard here because we can say the following.

33:03We know that heaven is a place at least in so far as there are at least two bodies in heaven. One is the resurrected glorified Jesus and the other is the bless of Virgin Mary, who is bodily assumed into heaven. So what does that mean exactly? How do we describe place in a heavenly sense? Because, take for example, Jesus in his glorified body, he had a body. I mean, he ate breakfast with the apostles. You know, he cooked them breakfast. And he ate, and they saw him eating, and they touched him, and they spoke to him. They could see that he really had a body, and he could still pass through walls, and he could do things that argument bodies in this life certainly can't do. So the glorified body can inhabit and does inhabit space and time the way ours do, but in a greatly elevated way. So what does that mean about heaven being a place? It's hard to say other than that, there are physical things in heaven, two of which are, of course, the Lord Jesus Christ in his glorified body and the bless of Virgin Mary and her glorified body.

34:08And eventually, all of us in heaven with our glorified bodies at the end of the world. So these things you could talk to her about and just say, well, factor that in. And whatever you think of as a place, a physical place, it may not be in the way that we experience it in this life. But we do know that those three dimensional bodies are in heaven in some sense. Okay. See where that goes. Couldn't hurt. Yeah, I will. And I'll put this. She could hear because she she's in the car with me when I go to take her to school. So I'll put the radio on. Yeah, does she ever listen to the program? She does. Oh, good. Maybe she's listening now. Well, when she does listen, and that's what I would recommend is that she pondered just a little bit about what that must mean that Jesus is in heaven. Mary is in heaven.

35:08So that right there, I think, will help her see that in some sense, heaven is a kind of physical place. Maybe if anything, even more physical than the way we experience this life, you know, in this life, we experience physicality and presence in a place in locomotion through time and space from one point to another. I would wager money that this is a pale comparison to the reality of space in heaven. And what it means to be a place in heaven is something more real than what we experience in this life, rather than less real. Okay. Well, thank you, Patrick. Oh, I'll give them your thoughts. And then, oh, if she has more questions, I'll call back. Thank you. Good to talk to you. We're going to take a break. And we're going to come back to more phone calls and a whole lot of other stuff on the Patrick Madrid show.

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37:08Yeah. Here's all of them disabled. I'm hard to hearing. That's why I'm on the speaker phone, but I've got something that bothers me in the past. I've heard you mentioned that attending mass on TV doesn't suffice for your Sunday obligation to go into mass. in TV and on a weekday and the Sunday, you know, and if it doesn't say a slice or anything, why did they even put it on the network then? That's a great question, a really good question. So with regards to Sunday obligation, I'm going to go out on a limb and say, given your disability, you're not able to get to mass the way you once were. And so you're dependent, I guess, on other people, but you also have, because of your disability's difficulty, I'm guessing going to mass. Would that be true? Yes, that's true. Okay, so God understands that and you are not committing any sin, and your obligation to go to mass on Sunday is effectively abrogated.

38:16It's effectively commuted or dispensed, depending on which term you want to use. So you might say it doesn't Sunday obligation under your circumstances doesn't really apply to you. You don't have that obligation given the circumstances. So it's a good thing that you watch mass on TV because it's what we could say is it's the next best thing. It's not being there, like let's say, you know, someone you really love to be present in the same room, sitting next to that person, hearing them, seeing them, etc. That's the best thing. But a phone call is the next best thing. If you can't see that person in person. But between the two options, you'd probably rather be in the person's direct presence than a phone call if you could have one or the other, right? Yes, my biggest concern is the community, the spiritual and the what's the term they use.

39:17I know you mean a spiritual communion, an active spiritual communion. It's a beautiful thing. So don't get me wrong. And if I gave you the wrong impression, I apologize. But you're doing a good thing. And it's a it's a meritorious, good thing to be able to watch mass online or on TV. That's great. And it's there primarily for people who can't get to mass. And the obligation is a separate thing. And that's where I think, and I'm really glad you brought it up because I think some people still labor under this misconception after COVID that they can just sit at home and watch mass online and not get up and go to mass. And that's where some people misunderstand. But that doesn't apply to you. Okay. Well, that's what I thought, but I wanted to be sure it was correct. You know. Yeah, absolutely. May I ask you a question, sir? Sure. So you go back to the early 1930s. It sounds like right?

40:18Oh, yes. What was it like? What was it like for you as a, let's see, you would have been seven. You would have been an adolescent boy during World War II, right? Yes, I remember Pearl Harbor. What was that like? I wasn't a Catholic then. I remember hearing it on the radio when Roosevelt came on the radio and said, we're at war. The Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. Yeah. And everybody was just shocked with that. They could leave it. I bet. But I bet. But I wasn't a Catholic until my mother was Catholic, but she didn't have me baptized until I was 12. And so I mean my first communion and the whole works the same year. So you would have been making your first communion around 1941, thereabouts? 1945. 1946. 1946. Okay. Yeah. So you remember the end of the war, you probably remember VE Day, VJ Day and all that.

41:20Yeah. What was that like? I mean, just from your memory, what was it like to be alive then? And in experience, it had great feeling. It was a great feeling. You felt proud to be an American. You heard people cheering in the streets. And I'm getting kind of sentimental here, but it was a exhilarating experience. As a kid, I remember that. Yeah. How happy we were. We're enjoyable at the war was over. Yeah. Some of our loved ones were coming home that had made it through the war. Did you lose anybody in your family or in your neighborhood? No. No, I didn't. Okay. I was seeing a lot of gold stars and windows, but I didn't really even understand what that was at the time. What was it like to have ration cards when you were that age? Terrible. Yeah. You went there and you'd go to the meat counter and it would be bare.

42:20You'd have a meat stamp that you could get meat on certain days. It was a very, it wasn't very good. So the ration card, it said you, I still have my mom's ration cards when she was a kid. She was born in 1940, but they're still kicking around somewhere. I'd like to find them. But the fact that you were rationed a certain amount of flour or sugar or what have you coffee didn't mean you could necessarily get it, right? It may not be there, right? Yeah. You couldn't hardly buy coffee at all. Coffee or harder was available. It was very, you had to know the grocer to get a coffee, pound to coffee. Yeah. So as you look back in your long life, you look back to a different world at different time. Culture was different. United States of America was different than, wasn't it? Yes, yes it was. People were proud to be American.

43:20You didn't see any fooling around with the flag and stuff that was honored. And people were just had a good spirit about being an American. Yeah. You've seen a tremendous change in your lifetime from that world to this world now. What advice would you give to people listening now, you know, since you've seen so much in your own life? Any advice you have for others? Well, one thing, don't believe in communism and socialism, they don't work. It's proven over the years that they don't work. Look at countries that have had their down to nothing. Look at countries that have got democratic republic. It's the greatest country in the world. Absolutely. Tell me what you think of this audio. It's I was thinking to play something for you now. Maybe you can remember where you were when you heard this. Yes, today, December 7, 1941, a date which will live in infamy.

44:28United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the empire of Japan. No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion. The American people in the righteous might will win through to absolute victory. That's got to bring you back, Don. Oh, yes. We were sitting in our farmhouse in Fisher Lake, Wisconsin. There was an upper peninsula near the upper peninsula and Wisconsin borders. We lived on a farm and we were sitting around the table that night when that came on the radio, which we had a battery radio at that time. We didn't have any electric either. We were all sitting around the table with the oil lamps and that came on and we were just amazed that that happened.

45:34That was like year 9-11 before 9-11. It was like 9-11 exactly. I sure appreciate your show and then I like to have you pray for my wife, Emily. She died earlier this year in May. We had been married almost 71 years. Oh my. Keep your in your prayers. My condolence is done and may she rest in peace and may perpetual light shine upon her. Amen. We'll ask everybody to pray for Emily. Thank you and we listen to you every day and we pray for you too. Thank you. Thank you. Man, I wish I could just hang out with you for a week and hear all your stories. Thank you. I wish I could. I'm getting where I can't remember them a lot but that's amazing that even I had the recall I did today because sometimes I don't have good recall, you know. God bless you. You've seen a lot, Don. Thank you. I don't think I've ever talked about this but when I was about 25, 24, 25, I was invited to join the Knights of Columbus.

46:42And so I did. And the council that I joined had a ton of guys who were World War II vets. And I mean, you know, dozens of them. So these guys in 1985 when I joined the Knights of Columbus, they were, you know, not ancient yet but I mean they were they were up there. And it was to me like this old man's club. That was my misperception of it. And I remember going to a couple of the meetings and there were, so I was trying to picture this, you know, they're like 50 guys in this council. And they're all sitting around and you know, there, there was a beer bar in the Knights of Columbus Hall. Nothing unusual. And these guys who fought in World War II and even before that, there's some like old timers who go back, you know, like toward the first World War era.

47:45And I couldn't be bothered to sit and just talk to them because I thought, man, these are just old guys. I have nothing in common with them. And I didn't go to the meetings. And I tell you, I kick myself. I've kicked myself many times since then. If only I had had the presence of mine. I was sitting with these historians who could have shared so much with me if I just sat there and listened to them and asked them questions. And I can't go back to that, but I wish I could. I wish I could have a folly of youth. I see it happen with my own kids and we go and visit the grandparents. And I know they have so many things that they would love to share with the grandkids. But grandkids just are not interested. And it's like such a missed opportunity. And you can tell them that. And just it does not sink in. Yeah, it's like, hello, McFly. Right. But that's what I say to myself now. I mean, these are guys who were in the army and the Navy and they stormed you with Jima and they, you know, all of this stuff and even older than that.

48:50And I had it all at my fingertips. I could have hung out with these guys. And I didn't. Yeah, the story that unfortunately are lost. So we'll take that as a lesson. If you're a young person listening, go talk to your grandparents. If you're lucky enough that they're still around. Go talk to them. And I have them tell you their stories. Share it. Ask them for their memories. Because that's her story. Their memories. That's your story. That's why you're here. You wouldn't be here if it wasn't for them. This goes back full circle to the beginning of the show where you shared that photo of your family. Oh, yeah. And hopefully some of those kids will be asking you your stories, Patrick. Many years from now. Many, many years. I remember granddad. And that's actually one reason. It's a good point you're making their sires on my sub-stack. About roughly half the articles are for like instructional things. Faith related, Bible related. And probably the other half would be just like true stories of things that happen to me in my life.

49:56And one reason why I write these is because I want my downstream generation relatives, my great-grandkids, grandkids and such, to be able to know a little bit about their grandfather. That they wouldn't otherwise ever get to know. So these are kind of like memoirs for what they're worth because future generations. I wish I could know anything about my grandparents beyond just some basic things that I know. I don't really know very much at all. I have to hear from older relatives and there are not too many of them up anymore. I don't know anything about my great-grandparents. I'm not a single thing other than their names. And like where they're from. And I wish now. So strike while the iron is hot. Take advantage of these opportunities while they're there because eventually they won't be. And you'll be left saying like me, why didn't I take the time to do it? So do it. All right, well on that happy note. God bless us all.

50:56We'll take a break. We'll come back in 21 hours or something like that. Pray for you, please pray for me.