The Tom Gazzola Show - Sept. 16th, 2026 - Hour 4

0:00Guessing is for game shows, not your business. Workday is the enterprise AI platform for HR, finance, and IT, with AI grounded in your context to get work done and done right. It's a new workday. Hi, it's Mark Bitman from the podcast, Food With Mark Bitman, and the website The Bitman Project. One of the things that makes Whole Foods Market different is their commitment to quality standards. More than 500-degree answer bands store wide to give us peace of mind whether we're browsing through the store or shopping online. And it's been this way since 1980. Their selectivity makes your shopping easier. Shop Whole Foods Market in store, her online. Thank you. Hey, let's get into it. We've had so much to talk about, and we do need to discuss the standboman presser, the nothing burger, or maybe you did glean a few things from it. This is the Tom Gzola show here on Sports 1440,

1:00brought to you by bet 365. Canada just hit the biggest home run of the summer. Bet 365 available in Alberta. It's here to stay. Download the app must be 18 plus. Please play responsibly. Dave Schlemko in studios, our co-host on Wednesdays. We got Brandon Douglas in Josh Fenwick as well. Of course, you could text us your thoughts. 1-8-3-3-4-1-14-40. You and I did take notes, Schlemmer, and we did joke about there being a lot of really nothing and kind of side stepping some questions from standboman. For example, well, really, that's a question for Mike in regard to how the two are going to go. I understand those, but. Sure, but I think you would, as the GM, be on the same page as the coach and have some insight into the system. You might have shared that plan a little bit. I would hope so. I think it's kind of important. Yeah, I think he was just going to say, just as much as he needed to say, and that's it. Bearman. My uncle Diego says it best.

2:00Aim low and achieve. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. Perfect wrap on that presser. I know that should be the perfect wrap on it, but a few people were joking about some things. What do we got? I'll get to that. The formant and stuff, and we were accused of not discussing it on Monday enough. I don't know how much some people want to talk about it. You have to acknowledge, if you have 60,000 people signing a petition. I've seen a lot of people on social media, friends of mine that are not happy about it. And rightly so, it, listen, they didn't need to bring him in. This is a hornet's nest when it comes to stuff like this. Everybody pays attention to the hockey team. I don't know how much he's going to impact this team. If you're going to tell me that he's going to have a huge impact on the penalty kill, I hope you're right, but I'll tell you right now, I personally have my doubts. I hope you're right, but I have my doubts. I mean, I think this whatever list that the reporter mentions is a little...

3:02Yeah. I mean, what, like, what does he say, 60,000? Yes, there's a petition. Could he from anywhere all over the world? I wonder how many have been to an Oilers game in the last year. I wonder how... And that's an OK counter, I think. How many have blue hair? Right. Well, and we're not disregarding anybody, because there are people that... There are valid points. There are fans who have valid opinions on this. 100%. Just saying. And essentially, what Stan Bowman said by going, I understand what people feel. I understand that's how they think about this. In a nice way, he's saying, we're going to do what we're going to do. And what I said last week when they made this money, they don't care. They're just going to do it because they think it makes the team better. Yeah. And I mean, that's their right. And they've said they've done their due diligence. They're not going to go into details on everything that they've discovered or dug up. But I don't think the decision was made lightly. I don't think any of it. I think that's valid, too. Yeah.

4:02Does anything change? Will anything change? The answer is no. He's on the team. He will be on the team. Stan Bowman did say that. And if you, as a fan of the team, don't like it, the best way to do that is to not support them. There you go. And we'll see if that actually happens. We'll see if the oiler's revenue goes down this year. Yeah. When you're charging 25 plus. OK. Listen, we could debate this, talk about it, get into the minutia of it. We don't have enough time in the day. But it is an important topic. I'm not disregarding it. It's just if you were looking for answers from him to make it better, he wasn't giving you anything. That's how I'll sum it up. And again, my stance on this is, do I think they needed to sign for him? No. Do I think he'll make the team better? I have my doubts.

5:03Just leave it at that. Matt Savoy's contract extension didn't even go into it. Really side-step though. Side-step, did you take that as a good thing or a bad thing? I'm not really sure how to take that. It's interesting. It makes me wonder if maybe they're not even close. Maybe they haven't even really talked much yet. Or maybe it's just keeping things close to the best. I'm not really sure. One thing you and I, and boys giggled about was how he talked about Bouchard's defensive ability, not being talked about enough. I think we talked about it a lot on this show. Well, listen. Maybe I was one of his strengths, I guess. I think that's what he meant. Somebody's going to throw us a war chart here or something and be like, he's a great defensive. He's a player. Okay. Sure. I'll tell you what, he is great at offense. You know what? That's in the puck. The one thing that people aren't going to be able to say is he's overpaid now. Great point. That is a good contract. I always a very polarizing issue all year.

6:05Last year is, we can't pay this guy over $10 million. Things we can't know. Exactly. Things have changed. All right. I'm going to get to a couple of texts here. I saw one from Perplexed Oilers fan. I had a long one. That long one. I'll read it. I'm going to read it. Get your thoughts on it. Where is it there? Is he still texting in? Yep. There it is. Okay. Holy smokes Perplexed Oilers fan. He just hit us with a bunch. Here's the one that I got earlier. This is from Perplexed Oilers fan says, I've thought the same thought for years. The problem isn't really the X's and O's. It's always been the lack of growl as a group. There's never been enough nasty in Edmonton. These two things add energy, focus, intensity and speed of plays. Florida isn't loaded with burners, but they play fast as a five man unit. But Florida is also hyper emotionally invested most of the time. They scrum every game. They aren't loaded with the toughest guys, but they never seem to lose the fight of the game. Oilers have more talent speed, but look like they're going through the motions, even

7:08kind of bored. Montreal has added this intensity. Buffalo finally added the emotion last year and look what happened. They're going to lead a different hockey. This is the problem with the Edmonton Oilers. Really, the only emotion is goals, but no other way to get involved when goals aren't coming. Cain tried, Perry tried. Nobody else followed. This team even sucked the juice out of Frederick who was a wrecking ball in Boston, but in Emton, he's faded. This team sucks the manly toughness out of players, all business, no emotion. And then Perplexed Oilers fan adds this. This is why Clatenberg is more important than just how good of a hockey player he is or isn't. He's a nasty, emotional nasty. Is not something that leaves that type of player. He juices the team. That's honestly very interesting points and hard to say that he's completely wrong on any of them. Makes me wonder. Obviously, Connor McDavid is the heartbeat of this team. Well, McDavid and Dryside, the Oilers go as they go. I think of a team like Florida and like, yes, Barcaves the Captain, but he's like a quiet

8:13leader. It's almost like it's more like built around like the identity of like a truck. You know what I mean? Well, they kind of, they must take over. They got the room in there. 100%. So like as they go, like the rest of the panthers follow. So I wonder, I don't know. I guess I wonder if Connor and Leon added like a little bit more of that dimension to their game if the rest of the team would follow. Yeah. That's fair. I mean, not that you want those guys dropping the ball. No, not even close to fighting, but you know, just have a little more edge to your game. I do get excited when McDavid mucks it up and gets into scrums. You don't want him to, but when he runs, guys, he's fly. He kills guys when he's hitting on the four check. Yes, he does. Leon as big as he is truly, if you look at it, he's never fought, never really gets in there. Yaps. Yeah, he yaps. But I know he's pretty good at it too. He probably is a smart guy, but yeah, they do.

9:16When teams have the leaders jump in there and like I'm muck it up for a second or two, it's kind of nice. Like Leon only gets chippy when he takes a penalty like a retaliatory penalty, right? Like I you'd like to see him get on the right side of that. Like be the instigator. Oh, a guy up that or just be the instigator. That's like, you know, tracking a guy in the back of the leg. Like when the ref's not looking and have that have, have the other guy retaliate, you know, I would like that. I mean, 10 years into his career might not happen, but you get to his. I would like to see the tone is fair. That's not something I've really thought about as like the team toughness and losing Darnel Nurse is big too. He is the guy last year that anything happened. That's that's the guy who would step in. So I think some really good point. Actually, I perplexed to other fan, not so perplexed perhaps. There are a bunch more texts. There's some coming in. Well, get to as many as we can. We do have Mario Terabasi from CHGO covering the black hocks coming up next.

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11:20Fifth question for in and out next week. Oh, inside joke inside joke. Maybe we'll go over it and see if maybe we can do that next week. Schlammers here. Okay, we need to get to the puck report brought to you by bet three six five. The gambling is affecting your mental health or well being 211 Alberta is here to help. Call our text 211 or visit a B dot 211 dot C 18 plus only terms and conditions apply. And today for the puck report out of Chicago, we've got Mario Terabasi joining us again from CHGO covering the black ox. Obviously, and yesterday, Connor Bedard named 37th captain in franchise history Mario. Good morning. Hope you're well. And was this the obvious move? Is it the right move? Could they have gone to Patrick Kane for a year or two? Yeah, I think that's the obvious move and it is the right move.

12:20I mean, you could have put the C on kind of a dark today that he was drafted. And not many people would have batted an eye. I mean, the black ox were always going to be his team. And I think the organization did the right thing by waiting to put him in this role because you know, I don't know if you guys got a chance to read the player's Tribune article he did. But in it, he kind of talked about how the first two seasons for him, he was trying to be like perfect and do everything for everybody. And that's a lot for a kid who's 18 and 19 years old trying to navigate the NHL to do. So I think they did a good job of making sure that the captain's he wasn't also on his play at that time. And having that buffer time and having Nick Salino be in that role, he actually helped the guard a lot kind of get out of what was a bit of a funk that he was in after year

13:21two. And we've kind of saw how last season went before he got hurt like he was a different player. So I think it's the right move, you know, you're ushering in this next generation of black ox hockey and the dart of the face of it. So I think it's definitely the right move and the right time. So I guess how huge do you think it'll be for your kid like Anton Frontel coming in to have, you know, the dart kind of showing him the ropes, letting him know what to expect, what to do, what not to do. That sort of thing. Yeah, I think it'll be really good. Like this group has a lot of young guys that some of them have gone through a full season in the NHL. So some have just had a taste of it. But a lot of guys that are in similar boats. So it's good to kind of have them to kind of lean on each other. And then, you know, with the dart, it's, you know, year four for him. So either guy that can, you know, as now captain, like be the leader amongst his peers and, you

14:24know, be somebody that can help these younger players kind of get used to the league and, and kind of figure things out there. And the good thing for Frontel is that he had a taste of the league last year. So he's not, he's not coming overseas, getting the first chance to play in the NHL, you know, cold turkey basically. Right. Starting at the starting this season, you had a number of games last year and, you know, he improved as those 12 games went on at nine points and they played them both at wing and at center. So there were some growing pains. I think he's, he's coming into what will officially be his rookie year with a little bit of a head start, which is good for him. And I think to, like, you know, teenage kids that play professionally overseas, like the learning curve is a little bit different for those guys than it is for, you know, someone making the jump from college to the NHL or, you know, the junior leagues to the NHL, like having played against, you know, grown men before probably gives you a little bit

15:28of a sense of at least the strengths and speed of the guys are going to be going up again. So be fair to say that expectations are a little bit higher for him. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think, I think both for Frontel and for Roman cancerov to, to rookies for the box this year, like, I think expectations at least around Chicago are that those guys are going to be driving factors in the, in the offense and, you know, could, could both be in the, at the end of the year in the conversation for, you know, the, the, the colder and, you know, be some of the top rookies in the league. There are high expectations for those guys for sure. We've got Mario Teravasi with us from CHG in Chicago, covering the black hawks and I'm going through the roster and I'm looking at some of the pieces. I was going to say who are some of the guys that will be a counterbidard supports when it comes to leadership. And then I'm also looking at the roster as I was doing that going, boy, there's a lot

16:29of young talented players on this roster. What kind of team are the black hawks going to have and what is Kyle Davidson's vision with this group as well? Well, yesterday at the press conference introducing Badard as the captain, they also officially announced that Tyler Bertuzzi and Patrick Kane were going to be the alternate captains of the long side of them. So you have now, you know, the, the second youngest captain in black hawks history in a leadership group with two guys who are, you know, veterans, guys that are respected around the league and obviously Patrick Kane, you know, have to go through his resume as an NHL player, especially in Chicago. Like he's going to be a guy that's looked at as a leader amongst that young group. And you know, last season, like Tyler Bertuzzi really emerged as a team favorite in the room and, you know, speaking from a media standpoint, we rarely ever got to talk to him. That's just, he cares about playing hockey and not really doing much else, but in the

17:35room and, you know, from the coaching staff, like he was revered as a guy who took on a leadership role. So it wasn't surprising that they put him in that again, now naming the Dardist captain. So he's got some veterans to help him in that spot, but they also have, like I said, like a robust group of young players that they've kind of been able to stretch their legs and the lead a little bit over the last few years. So it's going to be a good mix. The energy is useful. So I think around some of the veterans, they can kind of pick up on that and that excitement and it's going to be a fun group. They're going to be an interesting team to watch with how they're built the speed, the skill that they have in their young group. And then they have a couple of veteran players who are going to be like the size to the group. They got Jordan Greenway as part of the Bullen Byron trade. They had a cool Smith. They had a Dean Cole.

18:35Like, these are some big players that I think are going to give them a little bit of that physical edge, whereas more or less the focal point of their team is going to be young guys. Well, let's talk about the back end a little bit. Obviously, Bullen Byron, the signing raised some eyebrows. He's not the highest paid demon in the league anymore, but making some good coin. What are some realistic expectations for him? Like, you mentioned Dean Cole, other than him, a pretty young decore, how much of the load is he going to be expected to carry? Well, they signed Bullen Byron to be a number one defense. So they're going to play him as such. And I think the shock of what they gave up to trade to get him, the extension they gave, I think it was a lot of shock for a guy that's never been in a role like that, but they're going to give him that opportunity. And from all accounts, like from people in Colorado, people in Buffalo that have played

19:37alongside him over the years, he has the capabilities to do it. He just played behind Kilma Carr. He's played behind Rasmus Dalin. He just hasn't had the time and ability to really do it. So the expectation is he's going to be power play one. He's going to be top pair. He's going to, we've seen the last few seasons. He's had 40 point years. I think with the amount of time he's going to play, the role he's going to play, the power play group he's going to be on. He can put up 50 points in the defenseman. I don't think that that's a crazy stretch. And I think that kind of impact is going to be huge for this block oxygen because last season, they saw improvements in the standings, you know, of 9 to 11 point, rather 11 point improvement in the standings. And they did it with a defensive group that was led by Louis Crevier and points. 25.

20:38So you add bone biorum to that group who could potentially double that point output from the back end. Like that's going to kind of change the dynamic of the team a little bit. So I think you look around the league and you hear from former teammates, you hear from coaches like there's a lot of belief in biorum and he's a guy that has a lot of self confidence as well. And I think that that's something that is going to really benefit this group is to have a confident player and more of a swagger to him in a prominent role. Like that can influence the group too. Mario, it sounds like you got a little one there. Also, as far one more question at you while you get to daddy duties, obviously, what would be considered a successful season in Chicago this year? I mean, from around the locker room and what we heard from the coaching staff and management all off season, the word playoff has been thrown around a lot.

21:41And that is the expectation. I think they expect to win. They expect to surprise a lot of teams and kind of a dirty yesterday at the press conference of like if they don't win, that's a disappointment. Like they are beyond the rebuild the expectations. Like, okay, you know, just be in some games, be competitive. Like this team is expecting to win games and he said it again in the players' chimney article. He said like the group last year started to get mad and there was an anger when they would lose, which was different than his first two years. So I think the expectation is that they are going to compete, that they are going to win some games that they hadn't in the past. And I've seen some over under projections or anything like that around 79-80 points. I think they're going to be a team that's above that 80 point threshold and could be playing

22:44wild card chase types of games in March and April. That would be certainly a step up. And I know Chicago is a great hockey city that franchise has gone through some turbulent times, but in general has been a very strong one. And when it's homin boy, there's nothing better than a game at the United Center. So we'll see how things go as the team progresses. Mario, thank you for the time. This morning, man, great to catch up with you and be well. We'll talk again soon. Yeah. Anytime. Thanks, everyone. Mario Terbassi from CHGO Chicago, that is the puck report brought to you by bet 365. Any follow up there, Sean? Because I mean, expecting to make the playoffs was a little surprising to me. Like I thought, obviously, like that's the goal, but expecting to be in the playoffs and I guess disappointment if you're not that's understandable. That's shooting pretty high for a team where they were at the end of last year. So I'm going to name names. I like games. I like, yeah, that's the opposite of aim low and to achieve. Right. So you heard about cancer of, they got Nick Lardis, Frankie Nazar.

23:48I think people should know Frankie Nazar by now. Patrick Kane returns Ryan Green all over more. Cole Smith. There's some names on there like Ryan Denados penciled in as a fourth liner, according to daily face off Jordan Greenway. You heard Mario talking about, but like I'm not looking at this lineup. Alex Vlasik, Adam Levshunov, Wyatt Kaiser, Ian Cole and Sam Rinsel on the back end. I'm not going, that's a playoff team. No, like they got some good young players. They're not the Kanox roster. Well, that one's even worse. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I see what you're saying there. Yeah. I just, but hey, maybe they come together. Maybe there's some like true prospects that are about to emerge and take the hockey world by storm. That does happen. Definitely. And maybe guys that I've mentioned and outlined in that last die tribe, I'm sitting there going holy smokes. Why did I sleep on that guy a few months ago? I mean, they have the blueprint. They just did it a generation ago. That is true.

24:49Let's see if they can do it again. All right. We're going to come back with our final segment. It's flying along. This day has been a lot of fun. I say it. It's fun when you're having, or it's time flies when you're having fun. You know what? I'm going to get the marvelous. I don't mind. We're going to go to break. This is the Gazola Show. I bet 365 before I stumble and bumble through anymore idioms. Guessing is for game shows, not your business. Workday is the enterprise AI platform for HR, finance, and IT, with AI grounded in your context to get work done and done right. It's a new work day. Hi, it's Mark Bitman from the podcast Food With Mark Bitman and the website The Bitman Project. One of the things that makes Whole Foods Market different is their commitment to quality standards. More than 500 ingredients are banned store-wide to give us peace of mind whether we're browsing through the store or shopping online. And it's been this way since 1980.

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26:50It looks like it was busy, especially during the stand-bombed presser. Were you monitoring that? Oh, you okay? Oh, hey, Fannie. To do work here. To do work here, man. I do. I was working on something else. I was just like, end of the show. I think I can tune you guys out now. I'll. Sorry. What was the question? I was saying there's been a lot of interaction on the text line and then even on the chat on YouTube, which is generally quieter. And you keep tabs on that. Yeah. It's been rocking today, particularly from Bob's, your uncle, Mama. I saw that. Okay. Sorry for interrupting. No, whatever. He's dialed. He's just he's working on something awesome. Anyway, we do have caminakes. Brando, do you have anything to add before we get to caminakes? No. Okay. Let's hear from, let's hear from Tater. This morning, in other news, the sun came up today.

27:53It will go down tonight. And tonight it might or not 100% sure, but it might get dark. That is how much news came out of Stan Bowman's press conference. A nothing burger. Complete total nothing burger. Now, Tommy, Tommy, I want to ask you something. What do you put on a nothing burger? I'll tell you what you put on it. You put nothing on it because there's nothing there. It's a bun, just a bun sitting on a plate, maybe a napkin underneath if you're feeling fancy. That was Stan Bowman this morning. Now, I had a suggestion for Stan. A little bit of fun. You've got all these reporters gathered in the room, right? Notebooks out, cameras rolling. They've all know later today, the players, as a part of the big fitness test, go roundy only on the bikes.

28:54The stationary bikes, folks, inside away from the ice, meaning they are not practicing. I thought maybe Bowman could wander the room, go reporter to reporter, ask them for their bets on which players will have the fattest times morning. That's good content, Stan, networking 101, free of charge. But here's a thought and pay attention over there, Fanny. Maybe, maybe, the better play was to hold this press conference after day one of camp. Go watch the guys skate, see who's flying, see who looks like they spent the summer eating nothing burgers, then come out and talk to us. Because we have all been waiting to see what this training camp is going to look like, including the general manager of the Edmonton Oilers. I'm Cam Tate, Camineggs, sports, 1440. What if I want a nothing burger with the lettuce bun? I'm hungry for a burger.

29:55Family too. But Tater on the same page as you in regard to the Stan Bowman press conference. And then Tater also on the same page as me when it comes to Fanny paying attention. Yeah, that was great. I'm kidding, Fanny. I'm kidding. But that's good timing. Yeah. Slumber, I mean, yeah, we didn't get much from him. No. Could they have done the availability a few days in, maybe after the preseason game was done? Sure. Do you think it would change a lot though? Not really. No. I think he just wanted to get up there and get it out of the way and say as little as possible and he did that. Yeah. I would say mission accomplished there. Check that box. When we hear from Mike Babcock, perhaps we will hear a little bit more. We're going to say that it leads me to be very excited to hear what Mike Babcock has to say because I am interested in the plan of how they're going to play. How are you going to improve the team defense? What are some of these systems and tactics going to be? I mean, maybe he doesn't tell us any of that either.

30:57Who knows? I'll be a little more of a look into what they're doing. Right. I'm curious to see how he goes about, let's call it motivating the guys. Well, that's what everyone's going to be watching. Yeah. Yeah. And how much insight he'll share into that. If he does share a lot into how he's trying to make everything click and make guys tick, how much of it is BS too? How much camera time is he going to get between whistles on the broadcast this year? Like they're going to be panning over to him in the bench between every whistle. Yeah. I don't need to see that. I don't need either. It's going to happen. It will happen. Do you think when that happens and we see the intermittent shots of Mike Babcock, are we going to see an emotional Mike Babcock or a more pensive Mike Babcock who's in his 60s now and has been around this league for quite some time? I personally think we're going to see a lot more of a controlled and calculated Mike

32:01Babcock. He's coming into a new situation here too that he's used to. He's very much under the microscope and he knows the exact reasons why. So I don't think he's a stupid guy. No. So yeah, I don't think we're going to see a lot of raw emotion from him on the bench or in the public eye. Brian DeGiarele chiming in says seven times the others went into the following year to match the Esk's win totals, 79 80, 93 94 97 2012, 2014. Seven times the others covered Esk's win totals before Esk's finished their season 83, 2001, 20, 06, 07, 19, 21, 22 and Brian DeGiarele. I'll get some of the point here. He says we brought back Atlanta and hockey twice, dinosaurs are possible. And then Brian concludes with I gave you more on the text line than Stan Bowman did.

33:03Fair. That's fair. Yeah, that's fair. That's what we're getting at. Sorry. I know there was a point to it. Brian was feeding. He's a stats guy and some tidbits there and then he ended it with I gave you guys more on the text line than standard. Are you fine? That's that. The first one. The tell you what, like Brian, John Pearlman, Dave Moyer, all the stat guys, I mean, Bob software was a stat guy as well. Oh, he definitely is. Yes. They dive into the book, the books of the game, the history books, all the guide and record book. I called it the hockey Bible. It was always referenced by Ken Holland as well. Really? Those guys, yeah, I commend them for knowing, learning and uncovering this stuff. It is fascinating. Most of the time. Good memories. Good memories as well. Richie Texan says, I hope to see a vocal, Babcock.

34:04We've had too many silent coaches on the bench. I think you can probably, you definitely can speak to this best. What is the most effective style of coach in your experience in the National Hockey League? A guy that screams at you or a guy that doesn't say anything? I think it depends a lot on the player, honestly. For me, I had a lot of hard coaches as a kid. I think we just grew up in a little bit of a different generation. Like, I didn't mind being pushed. I knew when my coach was just trying to push me and still believed in me. When I got to a point where he didn't trust me. Those are two completely different things, which I think today's generation gets a little bit muddied. No, I think that's the first day. What I mean. For example, a player gets yelled at by a coach or talked to and they're insulted and they're also crushed by it.

35:06Yeah. If you got talked to by a coach, I know this guy's got my back. I just need to be better. Exactly. That's right. I don't know. Kids just grow up in a little bit more of a bubble. You're not getting that negative, honest feedback as much. I guess when you don't grow up with it and you turn professional in that, it's going to feel foreign to you, right? Yeah. Absolutely. But it is your profession. Yeah, but the game has changed at the same time, right? You started to see all those kind of coaches over the last five, six, seven years just start to fall off the map a little bit. Or if there's going to be an issue between a coach and the player, usually it's going to be the coach that gets gassed. I think these coaches are starting to realize it. I'll look at a guy like Lindy Ruff. I had him in Dallas. He was not like a nice guy. How do you want to put it? He's a bit of a grump, but he knew what he was doing.

36:09He had a job to do, and that's what he was trying to do. Now he got to New Jersey later in his career, and I saw an interview where he was like, I had to totally reshape my identity as a coach. We had a really young team here, and what I did before was not going to work with these guys. 100%. And I mean, it got to a point where they were saying, sorry, and thank you to Lindy and the crowd in New Jersey. Now he's back in Buffalo. You know what's funny? There was an old clip of him where he got into it with his old coach in Buffalo when he was playing in the 80s, and he was just as grumpy in the interview. Very open about it. And by the way, that's where I get this in. Before you yell at me because I don't have kids, and I don't know anything about these kids, Schlimmer does have kids, so he knows. Schlimmer, awesome stuff. You get the final word. Great show, buddy. Lots to talk about today, but I had a lot of fun. We'll do it again on Wednesday, okay? Next week. Four days, Schlimco, Brandon Douglas and Josh Fenwick.

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