0:00
It also gives some AI input based on your coverage or your spine.
0:04
This is what you're looking like.
0:06
The cool thing about that is you can use that as your initial start before even getting in the pod.
0:11
And then you can see the changes that are going on.
0:13
Because the whole thing is diagnostic is great.
0:15
And especially AI is very good and is going to be eventually better than us.
0:19
Well, if you're under oxidative stress, if you have poor nutrition,
0:22
physical stress, there's many things that cause that zeta potential to be lost
0:26
and your blood does not flow as well.
0:28
And what's really cool is exposure to the right frequencies, the right wavelengths of light
0:32
restores as zeta potential.
0:34
And that's one way that this laser pod is going to restore it all.
0:47
Okay, guys, Dr. Richard Albright and Dr. Phil Harrington from Sumis Medical Laser.
0:51
We've never had guests specialize in this field.
0:53
So thanks for your time, gentlemen.
0:54
Yeah, well, thank you for having us.
0:55
We have those that don't know what Sumis is about.
0:58
Could you explain what's going on?
0:59
Well, you know, we've been doing this for about 22 years in class four laser therapy.
1:04
And that's more of the portable targeted area.
1:08
And so we would basically treat a neck shoulder of a knee.
1:14
But over the last three, three to five years,
1:17
everyone kept asking us they feel so good that they wanted to do.
1:21
You have something that you can do a whole body.
1:24
And the technology wasn't available yet.
1:27
And so we have just launched and ever came out with the first fully synchronized laser pod
1:36
It's a class four laser that basically we're positioning it as a cellular regeneration suite.
1:44
Wow, that's exactly cool.
1:45
So Phil, break that down.
1:46
What exactly is happening for the promised source?
1:48
I know it's really awesome the way it is.
1:50
And you know, seeing this start out with with laser therapy and seeing how well that works.
1:55
And now they have the technology to be available to do this.
1:58
So really what we're doing is the patient will lay in there in the laser pod.
2:02
And it really delivers a full body photonic energy, the entire body.
2:06
So there's seven different wavelengths working at the same time.
2:09
Some of those wavelengths will be fairly shallow in penetration.
2:13
Some of them like 810 and 1064 will penetrate much deeper into the body.
2:18
But the really important thing to always remember,
2:20
we're going to say this many times, it's laser.
2:23
This is the first laser pod, first laser bed.
2:26
And that hits the mitochondria in the body.
2:28
You get that systemic energy production.
2:31
So really what you're doing is helping with the body's energy and natural repair processes.
2:36
And you know, you see all of these LED panels and things like that.
2:42
But that red light and with it being light emitting diodes,
2:45
it just doesn't penetrate as deeply.
2:47
And there's really no coordination of those treatments.
2:50
So the laser pod really fills that gap.
2:52
You get that full body systemic treatment for a true whole body system effect.
2:58
And so there's really, there's no gaps.
3:02
So you got a multi wavelength device that does this in a hands-free way.
3:07
It really helps the doctor to scale their practice.
3:09
Yeah, that's exciting.
3:10
I'm pumped to try it out actually because I use the red lights on a lot.
3:14
But you're saying this gets even deeper than those?
3:20
come out, feel like I'm a less brain fog.
3:24
So, you know, as, as we evolved and practiced,
3:29
and then being and doing this for 22 years as a manufacturer,
3:33
you know, the athletes, the high-end consumer,
3:38
they don't want a treatment.
3:39
They want a competitive advantage.
3:42
And so this gives them that competitive advantage.
3:45
And again, it feels soothing.
3:47
It's a great patient experience.
3:49
And people will actually love this.
3:53
How long do you have to stay inside of it for?
3:55
Average is, we got about 15 minutes.
3:57
Oh, that's so quick.
3:58
So you can just get in and out.
3:59
So if you're an athlete,
4:02
before workout, after workout,
4:03
an executive in between a meeting,
4:06
or if you have a one in your house,
4:08
it could be your daily ritual.
4:10
Yeah, that's way quicker than I thought, actually.
4:12
Sometimes with the red light,
4:13
you got to stay in front of it for a long time.
4:16
No, because we're dealing,
4:17
we're changing it, like Dr. Phil had said,
4:19
from LED, which doesn't penetrate as deep.
4:23
So now we're creating a lot more.
4:25
They call jewels into the body,
4:27
so you don't need as much time.
4:29
What's the feedback been so far?
4:30
I know it's new, but have people been using it?
4:32
Yeah, we've been using it in our office.
4:34
We've been testing it for,
4:36
it's been about two years.
4:37
We've been working on this particular project.
4:40
The feedback's awesome.
4:41
I mean, you, I mean,
4:42
people just absolutely love it.
4:43
So we're really excited.
4:45
We were just here this week at a conference
4:48
and we've got several pre-orders already.
4:52
Yeah, well, so it works out well.
4:55
That's not easy to do.
4:57
Yeah, because it's a high ticket price.
4:59
We have to high ticket item,
5:01
but we have such a great reputation in the industry
5:04
that now we're just taking
5:06
what we've done for many years
5:07
in the handheld lasers
5:09
and now shifting it into the laser pod.
5:14
Does it affect other parts of the area
5:16
other than the muscle like the brain, too?
5:18
Yeah, so it's, you know, again,
5:19
with getting that whole body exposure,
5:21
getting that full systemic effect.
5:23
there certainly is mitochondria
5:25
in the tissues and the cells in the body.
5:27
There's also free-floating mitochondria
5:30
So what this is with the laser pod,
5:32
it's about giving the cells the right light inputs
5:35
to help boost that mitochondrial ATP production.
5:38
And that helps to reduce oxidative stress.
5:40
And it helps to encourage the bodies
5:42
on repair mechanisms.
5:43
So, you know, you don't have to be an overcharging
5:46
elite athlete to need this repair.
5:50
Everyone in daily life needs this.
5:52
And you get that full body coverage.
5:54
You get that systemic effect.
5:55
So everything from recovery to daily energy,
5:58
you just feel more balanced and more sustained.
6:01
All right, so you stick with it all day long.
6:04
And, you know, really the point is
6:06
biology responds to energy.
6:08
And, you know, what the laser pod does
6:11
is it floods the cells
6:12
with those light frequencies that they need
6:14
to recharge and regenerate.
6:16
Yeah, the bodies are being attacked
6:17
by so many different angles now.
6:19
Yes, not just if you're an athlete.
6:20
You know, you go E-M-F,
6:28
Yeah, it's a big one.
6:30
Yeah, I'd be, I tried my stress.
6:32
It's crazy how stressed.
6:33
We're just all the time.
6:35
We have six hours of that.
6:36
Yeah, especially learning on hearing Las Vegas.
6:40
Yeah, Vegas can destroy you guys are here for a week
6:43
and you kind of get a little taste of it, right?
6:46
And my lips are chaps,
6:48
I've been chaps for years.
6:50
Ever since I moved here.
6:53
So you also talk about shifting from a reactive health care
6:56
to proactive optimization, right?
6:58
I think that's a big moment these days.
7:01
And so it's, you know, longevity is systemic.
7:04
And so you change the mindset of the physician
7:09
to, you know, from reactive medicine to proactive,
7:13
you know, the laser pod,
7:14
as laser pod as Dr. Phil was saying,
7:17
it has complete cellular energy
7:19
throughout the body for total body optimization.
7:22
And it leaves no biological gaps.
7:27
Yeah, that's an issue.
7:29
Yeah, because a lot of stuff does have gaps
7:32
or side effects these days.
7:33
Or even what the treatments that we started with,
7:36
like if somebody had back pain,
7:37
we will be using the laser on their back.
7:40
Well, but if you think about,
7:41
if you're looking at it from an injury,
7:42
pain management standpoint,
7:44
if let's say you sprain your knee,
7:46
well, that's going to affect, you know,
7:48
downstream down in your leg and upstream up into your hip,
7:50
you know, now with the laser pod,
7:52
we can do that whole body treatment
7:56
Yeah, I've been up and wick it back,
7:58
I really want to try this.
7:59
Is there any of these?
8:02
Very high-end consumer right now at the moment,
8:06
but they'll be coming in.
8:09
Guys, want to go to B2B route mainly?
8:11
Like, well, centers and doctor offices are...
8:13
B2B and then B2C for the high-end consumer,
8:16
and that usually, you know,
8:19
has the income and some of these guys
8:23
pretty other physical therapist there.
8:25
But again, like we were saying,
8:27
it's very unattended.
8:28
You know, it's going to hit in the button,
8:31
jumping in and then in and out in 15 minutes.
8:34
And which makes it, and it's very safe.
8:38
The pod actually has sonar in it
8:41
to measure the body,
8:43
to know the size there,
8:44
to deliver the exact dose for that particular person.
8:49
And knows their skin color.
8:51
And will monitor any temperature
8:53
if it got over a certain degree.
8:58
That's his normal sonar.
9:00
Yeah, that's built in into all our devices.
9:03
That's really incredible.
9:04
I haven't heard of something like this.
9:05
Yeah, you know what I mean?
9:06
We're trying to make it very safe
9:08
and very easy to use.
9:10
We got to get one to Brian Johnson.
9:12
Funny you should say that.
9:15
Wow, I had no idea that that's funny.
9:18
I know he's on the hiding edge of stuff like this.
9:22
From what we understand,
9:25
He'll be on the cover soon on one of the big famous...
9:29
Wow, shout out to him, man.
9:30
Yeah, he's got a lot of people interested in health.
9:33
I think he's just started in 2023.
9:35
You know what I mean?
9:36
Pretty due to the space.
9:37
Yeah, I know God's like Asperin.
9:38
Ben Greenfield have been around for decades,
9:40
but Brian really made a scene quick.
9:42
Yeah, well, I mean, we're old hats.
9:44
I mean, but we've been...
9:45
Literally, we've been with the...
9:48
the targeted lasers with...
9:50
You know, we've been doing it for 22 years.
9:52
And I feel like you were ahead of your time with them.
9:54
Yes, because back then,
9:56
they would stare at you differently.
9:59
longevity was a cool back then.
10:01
longevity wasn't cool.
10:02
It wasn't the next thing,
10:03
but we were targeting more for pain.
10:06
And interesting enough,
10:07
where it really caught on to
10:09
was in the veterinarian field.
10:11
And the vets were using it for their animals.
10:13
And are saying in our...
10:18
And so, when you see an animal
10:20
and then you can actually,
10:22
you know, treat that particular animal
10:24
and he's all of a sudden,
10:25
and he's running one or two treatments afterwards.
10:29
It shows you what's really happening
10:32
with the cellular side of the laser.
10:37
It's really been an advancement of the, you know,
10:39
the research behind the mechanisms,
10:42
you know, how this works.
10:42
How does the light interact with the tissues?
10:44
How deep does it go?
10:46
What, what chromosomes is it hitting?
10:47
What's happening inside the body?
10:49
So, you know, in the past 22 years,
10:51
we've had researchers around the world
10:53
developing these mechanisms.
10:55
Now, that helps us,
10:56
as equipment manufacturers,
10:58
put that into our technology.
11:00
And that's, you know, one thing,
11:00
summa's medical laser.
11:02
We've always been a very science-based company.
11:04
So, we're going to take all of that relevant science
11:06
and put it into our equipment
11:08
to get the best outcomes.
11:10
Yeah, sometimes in the wellness space,
11:11
that science park gets lost.
11:12
Yeah, or it kind of goes backwards,
11:14
or they make something
11:15
and try to fit the science, too, it's so...
11:17
Yeah, there's a lot of even supplements,
11:19
you know, you think you're doing the right thing,
11:20
and the game look was actually in them,
11:23
They're not really checked by a third party.
11:25
So, I've been navigating that space.
11:27
From the physician side, though,
11:30
now you're moving from a symptom management
11:33
to a system optimization,
11:36
which we think is the future of medicine.
11:40
So, a library more on that.
11:42
What do you see going on with them?
11:44
Well, you know, everyone,
11:45
and I think this is probably since COVID,
11:48
you know, when the government would tell us
11:49
that we have to have this shine
11:52
to make us feel better,
11:53
they forgot that we have an innate ability
11:56
And so, I think it woke a lot of people up.
11:59
We've been in this space for a long time,
12:00
so we knew the body heals itself.
12:03
So, now more and more people are rushing
12:06
in to learn more about, hey, you know,
12:10
there's all these particular devices
12:12
or tools or nutrition that's available
12:16
that I need to get on the stick
12:19
and my body needs to perform better,
12:23
you know, it's declining cellular power,
12:25
you know, and so, you know,
12:27
what this pod does is to increase
12:30
more energy into that area.
12:33
Thus, you know, you're going to work
12:37
more on a peak performance,
12:39
opposed to always feeling, you know, tired.
12:43
Yeah, that makes sense.
12:45
I love what you said about the body healing itself, too,
12:48
because I think growing up,
12:49
I didn't think that way at all.
12:50
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Yeah, and as such a streamlined set,
13:52
we as former chiropractors,
13:55
that's what we're taught in chiropractic school
13:57
is that the body can heal itself.
13:59
Above, down inside out,
14:00
the body has the ability to heal itself,
14:03
and now that we are able to use technologies like this
14:06
to help the body to heal itself.
14:09
We're not putting any drugs in,
14:11
not doing any surgery,
14:12
we're using light in such a way
14:14
that it stimulates healing in the body.
14:16
And one really cool thing,
14:18
and this is a topic that I just got interested
14:20
in interested in in the last few months,
14:23
is the term is called Zeta Potential of the blood.
14:27
And so you have the blood flowing throughout the body,
14:30
and normally red blood cells
14:32
should have a little bit of negative charge
14:34
so that they should repel each other.
14:36
When you get down to the capillary level,
14:37
so they can flow through the capillaries,
14:39
carrying the oxygen and the nutrients.
14:42
Well, if you're under oxidative stress,
14:44
if you have poor nutrition, physical stress,
14:46
there's many things that cause that Zeta Potential
14:48
to be lost, and your blood does not flow as well.
14:52
And what's really cool is exposure to the right frequencies,
14:55
the right wavelengths of light,
14:57
restores that Zeta Potential.
14:59
And that's one way that this laser pod
15:01
is going to restore health.
15:02
That's how it really is going.
15:03
So that being said,
15:04
because a lot of guys have issues in bed,
15:05
right, and you're saying you lack a blood flow.
15:08
Right. Could this potentially help you do?
15:09
Put it potentially help that too.
15:11
So blood flow and other effect,
15:12
and other mechanism,
15:13
and again, thank goodness to the researchers
15:15
that studied this technology,
15:17
is you do get a release of nitric oxide.
15:20
A nitric oxide is a vasodilator.
15:22
That's going to further help with the blood flow.
15:24
So that's another way that, yes, it can help.
15:28
Yeah, there's whole nitric oxide companies.
15:30
You know, definitely.
15:31
Because of that blood flow issue right now,
15:32
a lot of people seem to be having
15:33
even younger people.
15:36
People in their 20s.
15:40
You know, that's the real question.
15:42
Yeah, food, the reading,
15:43
or is it the microplastics?
15:45
Like because everything, right?
15:47
There's so many things going on.
15:48
Getting hit by so many things.
15:50
And now here with the laser pod,
15:51
that's a way to address those things.
15:54
So you guys are like on the cutting edge
15:56
of the chiropractic space.
15:58
You seem to always be ahead of it,
16:00
Aaron, in that, in that form.
16:02
But not even just chiropractic,
16:03
but now it's more going into the longevity space.
16:08
You know, they're there.
16:09
It's been exciting for us to be
16:13
We've always been in it,
16:16
But now we're really targeting
16:18
this longevity space and ice.
16:20
And these, you know,
16:21
consumers and being on a podcast like you
16:23
that are preaching, you know,
16:24
this type of stuff that we do.
16:29
Get the information out there.
16:31
That's in the key, right?
16:32
Because just isn't really taught anywhere.
16:34
You can find out about it on the
16:36
It is platform with you, Sean.
16:38
Have you guys been going
16:39
to a lot of longevity conferences and events?
16:42
We probably the last year and a half,
16:44
but now it's more exciting because
16:46
if we were showing our portable lasers,
16:49
they were like, it takes time, right?
16:52
And so this is another big thing
16:54
for a physician is now he can be doing his other stuff,
16:58
putting someone in the pod unattended.
17:01
He doesn't need additional staff, right?
17:03
And so he's also, if you're coming into income,
17:06
he's making additional revenue off of that
17:09
without having to utilize
17:11
extra people to hire good plan.
17:14
And that's been a bigger thing.
17:16
And so back to the longevity doctors
17:19
is they're so busy doing other things.
17:21
They don't have another person to wave,
17:24
you know, a laser on them.
17:27
It's just a good point.
17:28
So they can go in there.
17:29
Same with chiropractors.
17:31
There's so much manual work.
17:32
This could really help.
17:33
And a lot of times in chiropractic,
17:36
It's like, hey, you don't get those
17:38
additional therapies that are unattended
17:41
that they're working for you
17:42
opposed to you having to do everything.
17:45
How are you guys dealing with the skeptics?
17:47
Because this is such a new technology.
17:48
Are you getting any hate or criticism?
17:50
You know, it's not really new technology.
17:52
You know, a laser in general has been,
17:55
what would you say?
17:58
He's long that I asked.
17:59
He's one of the laser demonis was invented.
18:00
And you know, skepticism is healthy.
18:03
We face skepticism all along our pathways.
18:05
You know, I remember my early days
18:08
of using these devices in my own office
18:10
that people would, you know, ask me, you're crazy.
18:14
You shine a lot on somebody and they feel better.
18:15
And again, going back to that understanding of mechanisms
18:18
and in showing them how it works.
18:20
Once you can explain how it works,
18:22
then the skeptics will be, okay, I get it.
18:25
Now there is still some skepticism and that's healthy.
18:27
But, you know, what we find,
18:29
you got decades of research in this topic
18:31
of using light to have a biological effect on tissues.
18:34
And what it proves is that these treatments
18:37
do help with mitochondrial function
18:40
and resolving inflammatory stress, all right.
18:42
And those are two big things.
18:43
When it comes to health, wellness, longevity,
18:48
And so, you know, what we're doing with this laser pod
18:51
that we're introducing, you got that position,
18:54
you've got the depth, you got the dosage control,
18:56
you got that full body synchronization
18:58
to really, really help the body.
19:00
And, you know, now it's not biology
19:03
and about belief, okay.
19:05
Biology responds to this energy, all right.
19:08
And so, that's the way we're able to get the outcomes
19:10
with the laser pod.
19:13
Where do you see this thing going in the next five to 10 years?
19:16
Do you think this is going to be mainstream by then?
19:20
I think it starts again, the physicians
19:23
and the ones that are the earlier adopters.
19:27
And then once they jump on,
19:29
then I think it starts to, you know,
19:33
move up in the ranking.
19:34
Yeah, I mean, everyone's got stress
19:36
and inflammatory stress, especially if you like.
19:39
And then, you know, things to look for in our laser pod,
19:42
you know, right now we were talking about the way it's able to
19:45
measure the patient and check their skin tone
19:47
and things of that nature.
19:48
But checking markers to the response to the treatment
19:53
and using AI to analyze those results
19:56
and then build custom protocols.
19:58
I love the machine.
19:59
That's part of our future.
20:01
Yeah, I just went to the dentist.
20:04
So he does the scans, the cone beam scans,
20:08
I think that's the future.
20:10
Same old blood work, too.
20:12
Yeah, we have another device, and it's called the VisBody.
20:15
And it basically measures your metabolic health,
20:21
And then what we get out of that is you can see where they're at
20:25
for their metabolic health from body fat percentages,
20:28
an extra cellular water, that one's cool.
20:31
We have that here this weekend.
20:32
Should it come to the show?
20:33
Anyway, I know my posture is so bad.
20:36
I want to tell you that.
20:37
But then it gives, it also gives some AI input of what,
20:42
based on that, based on your curvature, your spine.
20:44
And this is what you're looking like.
20:48
And then the cool thing about that is you can use that
20:51
as your initial start before even getting in the pod.
20:55
And then you can see the changes that are going on.
20:57
Because the whole thing is diagnostic is great.
21:00
And especially AI is very good.
21:02
And it's going to be eventually better than us.
21:04
Well, it might be already, but yeah, sure.
21:05
For sure, it will be way better in the future.
21:08
Even with surgeries are saying they're going to be better.
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Sure, which is crazy.
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But I definitely want to draw that.
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Because I have scoliosis.
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I also have arthritis in my back and neck.
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And what is arthritis?
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So if we remove inflammation, you know,
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the healing starts taking place.
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Yeah, I've had chronic inflammation in my back
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My lifestyle is all right.
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On all day, you know, Richard, we found a patient.
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Well, they say sitting is terrible for you, right?
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So what you're sitting down all day working out.
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I don't know, you know, and you know,
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having that healthy lifestyle is definitely helps.
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But I'm not saying you're not healthy.
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It's part of everything, you know,
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and this is a piece of the puzzle of everything
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that we're that that's out there.
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For people watching this, how can they learn more
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and check out this stuff and everything?
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Yeah. So our site is the laser pod.com.
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It, uh, we put the in front of it because it is the first, uh,
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And then, um, sure, we're going to have some video of the pod
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rolling that we're going to send to you.
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And, and I ought to put this on the, on the screen.
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Beautiful. Anything else, guys?
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You want to close off with here?
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Well, I guess I'll just say that, you know,
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we've been at this a long time.
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I know, uh, uh, we're a little bit older than you,
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but, uh, you know, I think that, uh,
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part of having this, you know,
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both of us using photobimodulation devices in our,
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in our own healthcare, as has helped to keep us healthy.
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And then the ones around us, all, you know,
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these, using these light devices.
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But then also, you know,
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this is a non-invasive treatment.
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It feels good, but it has all of these
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tremendous systemic benefits for health.
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So it's definitely something to look at.
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And it's something that is really going to be a part of that
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trend towards proactive healthcare as we move into the future.
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Yeah. And, you know, and we're not promising miracles.
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We're just actually restoring energy into the area.
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So the pod puts the control back in your, back in your hands.
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It's one system every stage of life.
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Well, we'll link the, uh, website below and your social media
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and those things are coming on, gentlemen.
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All right. Thank you.
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You look forward to trying it myself.
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