Throwback Thursday: New Millennium, Ancient Cults

0:00OO in their right mind could possibly deny the 20th century wasn't entirely mine Some area I This were a dictatorship. It'd be a heck of a lot easier from a craftman style bunker somewhere on the 39th parallel It's PID radio welcome. I'm Derek Gilbert. I'm sharing Gilbert. Welcome everybody For those of you who listened to last week's show and you concerned that we don't know where we are Because we said that we really don't know it was a joke We do know exactly where we are We don't own a GPS device, but we do know exactly where we are Yeah, well Google Earth is wonderful for tools like that. It's a beautiful day here in central indiana and so

1:05It's talking about dark things is kind of odd on a day to talk about dark things But these are things that we need to examine especially as Christians in this world We can't close our eyes and turn them blind eye to them and that's why we do what we do Pairing into darkness calm and PID radio and our guest is one who has certainly looked right into the heart of darkness And in fact a guy who first came to our attention through the radio broadcast of the late Michael Corbin And we'll be talking about that He's the author of Lucifer's Lodge Satanic ritual abuse in the Catholic Church and Satanic crime a threat in the new millennium He's also got an audio book out there called the Da Vinci code Cabal It's William H. Kennedy William welcome back to PID radio Thank you for having me back. Derek and Sharon. It's very nice to be here Michael Corbin let's let's jump jump right in there Um, because he's a guy whose work Was far more important than the acclaim he received from the world at large How did you first come to know Michael Corbin?

2:06Michael Corbin initially I came in contact with Michael Corbin in 1989 He had back then before there was anything called the internet There was a thing called the information super highway Which was the predecessor to the internet and Michael had one of the very first new services on paranormal themes like UFOs and Satanism called the Paranet and um I actually very early on around 1991 I was doing my master's degree at San Francisco State University in philosophy And I emailed Michael Corbin and very early you know, this is this is a long time ago and um, he emailed me back now What Michael did beyond that he was also a pioneer in internet broadcasting He had a program called the Paranet Continuum

3:09Which was a web broadcasting radio show that he started round about 1994 And I used to listen to that when the uh what later became known as the internet came out And back then the internet had a lot of trouble like uh real player used to crash and If people remember the internet for broadcasting wasn't too good in the mid 90s a little bit later on it got better But I used to listen to Michael quite a bit and he had a lot of programs on uh, guess I should say like a Maliki Martin and Graham Hancock and really fascinating writers in the paranormal realm and I used to Listen to that program quite a bit now to fast forward ahead uh, I was friends with father Maliki Martin who um Michael Corbin used to have on the show And it's quite interesting because art bell came along with his program coast to coast art bell at the time was a political commentator

4:18Uh in Nevada and what happened was he more or less ripped off Michael Corbin's Paranet Continuum Radio Show informed the coast to coast a m And when you listen to both programs even the bumper music On coast to coast a m to this day Sounds virtually identical to the original Paranet Continuum broadcast in 1994 Basically what uh, oh, excuse me Basically what art bell did is he stole Michael Corbin show and his guest list and formed a coast to coast a m you were saying earlier that he never got the um due credit for Uh, the different things he did Michael Corbin now uh, to fast forward again in 2002 Michael started another program called a closer look And what happened there I had listened to an earlier program he did on the Paranet after Maliki Martin

5:22had died And there were some rumors about father Martin's death that were totally false that were expressed on a Michael show So I sent Michael an email And he said well, I'll have you on my new show. This was in 2003 on a closer look Now I went on a closer look. I was a regular guest on a closer look for five years. I was on oh four or five times a year for five years and that's where you know You two heard me Derek and Sharon Gilbert on did radio and from Michael's show I became kind of an international figure In paranormal studies. I became famous as a direct result of Michael Corbin's Radio program a closer look for which I am grateful for Now tragically Michael passed away Not too long ago just

6:23A few weeks ago even and up there's a lot of rumors about his death on the internet And I just want to make it clear. I believe Michael Corbin did die of natural causes. He died of a massive stroke and tragically Michael didn't take as good as a goal Care of himself as he should have he was overweight and he was a heavy cigarette smoker Which you know we can all learn a lesson from Michael Corbin's death you know if you're listening in your smoker quit If you're an over if you're overweight start exercising and eating right You know that's a great lesson we can learn from him and I'd like to thank You know you two Derek and Sharon and Sharon especially for putting up that wonderful tribute page to Michael Corbin Which I'm sure he would have greatly appreciated, you know I was on Michael's show one week before he died It's the last program I did in a five-year run and I said two times on that last show

7:28I did with him that it was my favorite radio show and it really Was and is and always will be and the best work I've done Is really behind me now that a closer look is over I can turn my radio work On a closer closer look to be far superior to any of my writings or anything else I've done So I'm eternally grateful to Michael Corbin and I hope he ultimately gets the due credit He deserves we're being such an internet pioneer Well If we have anything to do about that, you know Hopefully we can help push that along a little bit, but sadly bill As our friend Visigoth as wisely pointed out no one ever got rich or famous by telling the truth And that is the difference between Michael's show and other shows like his that us that seek to achieve ratings and advertising success as opposed to just telling the truth You can tell the difference between those shows and his by how successful those other programs are and it's not just coast to coast

8:32A. I'm there are others and we'll refrain from naming names, but there are others right Building on Michael's work and and claiming it as their own They know who they are we know who they are and we'll just leave it at that But you know bill is a professional radio broadcaster with 15 years experience on under my belt I am not stretching the truth to say that I consider Michael Corbin to be the best Radio talk show host that I have heard Bar none Definitely so I mean any any any genre any genre and any genre so informed he knew something about everything He was an amazingly intelligent man He had a beautiful and I considered the best speaking voice in radio You know his speaking voice was wonderful and he really understood the power of the internet and technology even his Umpra music and such was very very you know high production very well done

9:33And as you say, you know he wasn't just burned by Coast to coast but as again, I don't I don't want to throw stones at anyone But there's a lot of people in patreon radio There's a lot of you know People who are now making a lot of money off conspiracy related things that really draw on Michael's work And Michael was nationally syndicated at one juncture when I was on his show But he saw how miserable and horrible Even the alternative patriot networks had become and he of his own volition With drew from national syndication as to avoid getting caught up in the You know the whole advertising and fund raising matrix which To be honest with you. It's becoming just as bad as the mainstream media is as far like there's one fellow out there now Who's running a big money fundraiser and

10:38It when it becomes more about money than the truth just a lot is lost It's hard to put my finger on you know, but a lot is lost You know Yeah, you're absolutely right and it was to his credit that Michael followed the evidence wherever it led regardless of how it affected his ratings or his Financial standing oh he walked away from money. He deliberately walked away from money as not to have his ideas and Warped or to promote products and systems which he believed were kind of a ripoff You know he he was very particular about what was advertised You know and a lot of these things. I don't want to name names again, but there's water filtration companies and You know food packaging companies and different things that support patriot radio Which when you look at the hard facts if there's a natural disaster of any kind

11:42You know, it doesn't matter how much gold you have stored in your cellar It doesn't matter how much you know water filters you have it doesn't matter how much packed up food to have Because the government can ultimately in a time of crisis under the law sees all those things anyway So So to advertise them aggressively as if you can It's like when the people when they were selling duct tape and plastic worrying about a A chemical it you know duct tape plastic in a in a water filter I'm not gonna save you if someone decides to set off a smart bomb right, you know In fact those products are made out of oil which that money just went straight to the oil companies And Michael and I had a lot of conversations about this because I do my own little show called spings radio Which is more geared towards paranormal and occult history themes It's not exactly a patriot type show

12:43But I got all kinds of offers from all kinds of networks are go nationally syndicated and when Michael pointed out this These things to me. I just you know I I saw what he was saying and I would prove from it. There's a lot of ridiculousness Even in the alternative media, you know, there's you gotta you gotta sort the week from the chaff Wherever you are absolutely and we're sharing and I are convinced that the medium of exchange after the bomb drops is going to be toilet paper not cool, so Moving on to the things that you're working on now bill You've got a couple of Books that should be part of anyone's research or reference library satanic crime a threatened new millennium and Lucifer's lodge a very dark look at the Abuse that took place With the protection and knowledge of many within the power hierarchy of the Catholic Church But you've also got some things that you're doing very interesting things you're doing at your website will you? H Kennedy dot com tell us about that Well, what I've done is it's really my goal um Derek and Sharon are not to be sexist

13:47I should say Sharon and Derek Is I I want to educate the general public in occult history that's really my background I mentioned earlier. I had a master's degree in philosophy and I studied very closely With people like Jacob Needleman and Houston Smith and people along those those sorts of occult Esoteric realms. I'm not an occultist myself But I think it's essential for everyone to understand occult history and what I've done on my web page with the rise of YouTube and Google video and Cuba TV and all these different Broadcasting type things on the internet. I formed a series of occult Multimedia pages and what I've done is I've gone on to the internet and I've gotten the very Best documentaries on occult history that are out there my occult history multi media page which I dedicated to Michael Corbin

14:55By the way has all the best documentary films on subjects like Caballa and Alchemy and the Da Vinci code and Freemasonry the off the off the Rossic Crucionism things of that nature And I think it's imperative that people understand these esoteric subjects because they so control and shape our culture In a way that people don't realize a lot of people say well why bother studying the Caballa Which is a Jewish school of mysticism which is kind of like a western yoga Well when you consider the people like Madonna and Britney Spears are practitioners of Caballa Look how much they shape our culture they're on television and radio every day So the ideas beliefs and symbols that they promote and believe are saturated into our culture just those two names right there And a big part of my web pages is also the worn people against the dangers of these sorts of things

15:59For example if you remember Britney Spears not long ago she was a very together Teenage singer who was preserving her virginity until she got married Then she got involved with Madonna and the Caballa now she's a bisexual Raven maniac who shaving her head in an out of mental institutions So I see a direct link between these occult connections and things like mental health, you know And um, we're all different. We can all handle things differently and we all have ways of preserving our public image But over the years I've gotten you know thousands of emails from people who got involved with like Transcendental meditation Or silver mine control ESP training who wound up going absolutely bananas

17:01So a big part of my web page is worn people against these things now Most things come very candy coated and most things come very attractive in this world You know, but you got to look for the hook in the bait And if you watch these series of films they're set up historically and chronological Lotter at William H Kennedy calm on the occult multimedia page You will see two things number one as I said earlier how pervasive These things are in contemporary culture and number two How psychologically damaging they can be to individuals now my web page isn't all grim I have a lot of really fun stuff on the occult multimedia page I have a lot of like pen and teller clips And John Stossel who's on 2020 who exposes a lot of this stuff a lot of skeptical stuff where it's a program yet

18:03And I also have uh You know a Christian perspective. I have a lot of text Mars if you're familiar I'm sure you're familiar with him He's very interesting person who looks at these things. So it's not all doom and gloom some of it is Quite entertaining and it's very informative as well and um as I said I got there so much stuff out there As far as documentaries and articles and sound clip goes what I did is I went through as many of them as I couldn't I picked out the very very best documentaries and the very very best sound clips and you know there's hundreds and hundreds of hours of uh Film there and it's organized very neat William H. Kennedy calm. I'll say it again It's free to listen to it's free to use and I have products there for sale as well You can get my books and some other things I sell but you know, it's no obligation You're gonna have to register or you know, I won't even know who you are

19:06People are welcome to come to William H. Kennedy calm and they can um Check out these multimedia pages now just for this show. I'm going to do something very special I'm going to for free. I'm put up uh ebooks of Lucifer's lodge and say tannic crime for one week from the air date of this broadcast So people even take a look at my uh two ebooks for free and I'll also put up a couple of my uh I wear different hats in life. I'm also a um personal development Coach kind of and I have a memory improvement course and a stress reduction course Both of which people can try for free this week and I should point out that a lot of people will wonder this my stress Reduction course is non mystical non spiritual and non religious and what it's based on is

20:07What they call progressive relaxation and when I tell you just briefly what it is you'll know up. Hey, if it's you just sit down quietly and you say Relax your feet relax your calves relax your knees. So there's nothing mystical or spooky. It's actually developed By physical therapists. That's all I fall asleep on the nights when I'm having to fall asleep Well actually I'm really familiar with that technique and it works Yeah, oh yeah, it works and it's perfectly safe now The problem with other techniques and I've tried a lot of these other things like TM or silver mine control Or different forms of eastern or yoga meditation now. I'll give you a mouthful. I'll give you a technical term There's a transcendental referent into them and basically what that means is that there's something spiritual for like in the TM movement They demand or they give you is actually the name of a Hindu pod And silver mine control you use a visualization where you pick a figure in your mind to start telling you how to leave your life

21:14You know a spiritual figure So that stuff as far as I'm concerned is a slippery slope into Possibly monic possession not necessarily You're opening a doorway though and inviting something to come through and Right and there again It depends on your psychological makeup how it will affect you like someone like Britney Spears You can connect her mental collapse directly when she started to do kabbalah meditation Which is actually similar to transcendental meditation So everyone's a little bit different, but I will tell you this as well I haven't met anyone who there hasn't been a negative rebound on some level Using these Assetarical or called techniques Mind techniques, but um as I say my stuff memory improvement and my stress away technique Purely secular and purely you use your body

22:16Yeah, I'm sorry you use your mind to tell your body to relax and you use mental images to store information Rather than audio in your mind to store information. So those things are perfectly safe And as I say people can try them for free. This is the William H. Kennedy calm I also have a speed reading course up there. I can't give it away for free because it's not mine It was developed by a woman named Karen Stark But for people who are interested in expanding their minds and expanding their consciousness There are certainly safe and effective and highly useful ways to do so Like speed reading and memory improvement without any of this mystical mumbo jumbo which is you know landed a lot of people in psychological peril and even spiritual peril in certain cases So I just want to just to make it clear today is June 1st and

23:17This interview will go up tonight So right so June 7th June 7th. I'll take it off the 8th. Okay, June 8th So we're being clear. So if you're listening to this on the podcast the offer would run between June 1st and June the 2008 just in case you're listening to 2008 right just to make it clear Now my materials are always free if people email me for us military and their families So if if anyone in the US military and their families wants to try my stress technique have them email me at any time It's always free for them and we'll put the links to bills website and the links to the various pages that we're discussing today and his email address If that's all right with you bill at the show notes at pid radio.com Now bill in all the research that you've done and pulling together these hundreds of hours of videos What's the overall sense you get of the say the spiritual threat level to the world. Oh, that's a good question

24:17Yeah, well, you know instead of the Homeland Security threat level. What's the spiritual threat level from these Occult practices that are out there Well to be honest Derek and Sharon all she have to do is turn on CNN and look at the way human beings treat each other And when you see the horrible way they treat each other when you look at the forces and people that are behind this you will see that Our politicians many of them are involved with a cult in esoteric practices themselves and all the horror you see in the world is a side effect I believe you know, there'll be people who debate me I believe the side effect of this nefarious spiritual Milu that permeates our higher political offices for example A lot of people are familiar with the fact that

25:19President Bush and John Kerry are both members of the Skull and Bones Society, which is a fraternity at Yale Which they pick 15 of the top students At Yale every year and have them Join this fraternity wherein they actually worship Lucifer as part and parcel of their initiations ceremony So when you really look at you know to to look at your question again What did the spiritual ramifications or the overview you don't have to look far beyond the secret Societies which ultimately worship Lucifer you know if you want to understand why George Bush didn't respond well to Katrina You just have to look at the fact that he's in league with the devil And you know things start to fall into place. Why did he start an unnecessary war Getting our young people killed over the other side to the world of royal and we're also paying you know

26:25Four or five dollars a gallon for oil Well, you don't have to look too far the the fact of the matter is our world leaders are involved with satanic secret societies And that's the the big ramification and when you even look at other groups like the Bohemian Grove Out in california which responded in 1872 What they do is they have a mock human sacrifice before an owl god And they dress up in kukak's clan type robes in regalia and the membership of that Some of it intersects with the scullin bones like George Bush is a member Henry Kissinger is a member Jimmy Carter is a member Arnold Schwarzenegger is a member Herbert Hoover was a member uh You know right down the line or Ronald Reagan was a member Nixon and people say well, you know

27:25Maybe this is just the fun men's club But then when you look even a little more closely for example um Richard Nixon not only was he an occultist Have the Bohemian Grove But he also took the advice of gene dixon who was a psychic Concerning American foreign policy and if you go to my satanic crime multimedia page Which is a William H. Kennedy calm. I even have the sound clip of Richard Nixon discussing Gene Dixon's advice concerning middle east policy in 72 he used you know he used a psychic to determine our foreign policy So there again he's tied right into the occult Yeah, Ronald Reagan now Reagan is even more bizarre Reagan was a member of the Bohemian Grove and worshiped his owl and he used a an astrologer named Joan Quigley

28:28Uh Nancy Reagan used to contact her on a daily basis About how Reagan you know when he should travel and what decisions he could make now here is a big punchline for you That few people know how the Reagan's were introduced to Joan Quigley was through another Bohemian Grove member named Merv Griffin Okay, and Joan Quigley's grandfather was also a member of the Bohemian Grove So for people who say oh this is just the fun men's club. That's a lot of nonsense These people take these occult and esoteric ideas deeply Into their policies to the point where the Reagan's asked a fellow Bohemian Grove member Merv Griffin About who they should get as a psychic advisor now Merv Griffin who we know for shows like jeopardy and will of fortune

29:30And his talk show he was also instrumental in promoting the career of the Mahareeshimahash yogi the founder Transcendental meditation now most people remember the Mahareeshim Dig recently as being tied in with the Beatles, but the Beatles weren't with the Mahareeshim for very long It was you know about four months was their time with him and they kind of broke off from him pretty quickly Now it's in the early 1970s when Merv Griffin started to have the Mahareeshimah on his talk show that the Mahareeshim became very very rich, you know and wound up being worth billions of dollars There again as a direct result of the Bohemian Grove so The counterarguments I get about you know this is just you know the the scullin bones is just a fun You know fraternity kids fooling around in the Bohemian Grove is just a lot of theatrical nonsense

30:32By a lot of rich people Well, not really not when you put it under the microscope and examine the people and policies and the things that spin out of it It becomes quite frowny and uh there's also a Pretty much confirmed homosexual activity at the Bohemian Grove It came out a couple years ago that a porn star named Chad Savage Who gets about 40 or 50 thousand dollars Per gay film Was hired as a butler at the Bohemian Grove and he works there just about every year Well, what's a man who makes 40 or 50 thousand dollars a year as a gay porn star How much is he getting working at the Bohemian Grove For two weeks and what exactly is he doing there is he mixing martinis or is he doing Much more things than that and just to give you an example I hate to be risk gay. I know this is a Christian show

31:34But Chad Savage did a film called how the West was hung That's the kind of triple X gay hard core porn and I'm sorry I'm sorry to say it on your show But it's the only real way I can emphasize the point that These people are are also involved in a call homosexuality well Not to interrupt but even Richard Nixon ironically and I'm not gonna quote him directly because Nixon used pretty salty language But he commented to someone else after going to Bohemian Grove that it was one of the most uh Homosexually oriented events he'd ever attended and again Oh, yeah, I hate he so he was there, but yeah, even Nixon said you know, this was you know something that he didn't find a very appealing It was he I have that clip on the panic crime multimedia pages well Nixon said it was a homosexual organization. He confirmed that himself right so you know in more Griffin he was also you know, he had a lot of

32:36Law cases against him He would some homosexuality across people who worked for him including There was a program he had in the 70s called dance fever hosted by a guy named Danny terio Who was the choreographer for Saturday night fever Danny terio sued Merv Griffin for um homosexual assault so These people as I say that this is uh not only did they shape our culture they do whatever they you know, please With whomever they want whenever they want and it's very sick and disgusting So the spiritual ramifications of a cult history are huge and they permeate our you know our entire society Well in Bohemian Grove the worship you you've been saying it over and over again an owl Am I right in saying that represents molek? Well, yeah, I mean I Alex Jones took a film of their

33:38actual ritual which is a mock human sacrifice And whether they see it as molek or not is they probably do but it's really secondary It's the fact that you know the voice of lucifer is actually part of the ritual as well um Walter krunkite does the voice of lucifer in a recording while this bizarre ritual So you know even from this film whatever the details are our secondary this film and in of itself Is in an uh an occult indictment Against these leaders who run our society. It's it's quite sick What's their ultimate goal? What is the threat from this influence that they Hold over our culture and our society Well quite frankly, it's not money because they have all the money they need at this juncture They're not out for more money, but they're not satisfied with just the money They want to number one

34:39control and oppress the rest of us And uh number two they want to radically cut down the population of the world I've heard different figures everywhere from 500 million to a billion people They don't like the six billion people on this planet And they want to cut that way way down and basically have a sort of occult capitalist feudalism With a small handful of the leaders control the world and the rest of us More or less serves in a medieval sense who are completely under their control You know a big part of medieval Serptum is that you could not leave The area from which you were born you were bound to your lord and bound to your particular area and look at how they're Restricting travel now they're even starting it on that level, you know and um If if for people who don't believe me certainly ask some

35:43Katrina survivors how they feel about being hurted in to these uh, you know trailers without any uh particular Police presence and and people are turning on each other and you know, assaulting old people And uh, it's just terrible Well What they're doing is just brutal and they're gonna keep moving on until they get more and more power over our daily lives And it's frightening now unlike any other time in history. They have the technology to do it You're your first book loose first lodge dealt with satanic ritual abuse and we talked about bohemian grove and some of the The sexual overtones connected to that What is the fascination with sex in the world of the occult? What's the significance? The especially sexually sex outside the bound of one man one woman marital relationship Well number one Sigmund Freud was correct in the sense that sexuality is a great and powerful

36:49human motivator and it is a great and powerful and even embarrassing force for people on that level Freud was absolutely correct. It's a very obvious thing so mixing this in with the cultism There again ultimately it's a power kind of thing. It's having power over other people And if I talked to a lot of survivors of rape on different levels, you know the people who were survivors of face molestation and adult people who were raped by other adults and they'll all tell you the biggest thing they feel and what's frightening is the powerlessness of being the victim of rape You know not only do they strip people of their dignity, but they strip people of You know any power they have to control even their own physical actions So as far as that goes rape is probably the most horrible thing one human being can do to another human being

37:55In many ways it's worse than murder because if you murder someone their suffering is over and you have to live with what you've done If you rape someone their suffering has just begun Now in the introduction of Lucifer's lodge there was an introduction written for the book which describes some of the spiritual aspects of breaking these sexual taboos especially with children The what what sort of spiritual impact Do these taboos breaking these taboos have? Why did people like Alistair Crowley for example push the bounds of sexuality I mean, was it just a physical psychological means of control or were they looking for some spiritual power that was achieved through this sort of activity? Well how I'd respond to that question Derek is I can tell you that in 2003 I went to the protests outside the cathedral

38:58In Boston these were survivors of priest rape and ritual abuse and two or three of them told me Confidentially that they felt that they were being pestered by spiritual entities So I also suspect in the trauma of All of this it makes people susceptible to a demonic infestation and possession I think that's a big part of it because out of the frustration and psychological demeaning of being raped or molested as a child the human mind by nature will reach out and fantasize about destroying their abuser and they will call on God the devil heaven and hell to wreak revenge upon these people who have abused them and sometimes not all the times now but sometimes within that

39:58psychological dynamic of revenge demonic infestation can occur so there's definitely a spiritual component to rape and things like ritual abuse which do involve the satanic realm and I say that purely now this isn't theoretical This is what survivors of clerical ritual abuse have told me You know they've said this to me and I've heard it over and over again So there is that element there to it and and As far as the abuser goes they just assume that the person they're abusing becomes possessed They that they really you know they don't care or they may want that to happen So there's that element as well and I say that purely reporting as a journalist not as a As someone with a theological background. I'm merely reporting what has been reported to me

41:04Bill I haven't had a chance to read satanic crime yet and we've talked about satanic sexual Abuse within the church and within political realm. How does satanic crime? You've got it as the threat to the new millennium. Can you explain that to me? Well sure satanic crime is my sequel to Lucifer's lodge and what I did in satanic crime the first chapter is called a brief history of modern satanism and what I do in that chapter is I give a history of The devil worshiping movement from Alistair Crowley's birth in 1875 Up till you know contemporary times and I cover people like Crowley and taunleve Kenneth anger Michael a queenau Boyd rise Shane bugby all of the major figures in the contemporary satanism movement now what the following chapters of the book

42:14consist of are case studies of serial killers who were also satanists These are people who got involved with satanic ideas primarily through Crowley and Anton Levee who took it to extremes and murdered people And the the case studies I cover are people like Charles Manson and Richard Ramirez the night stalker Birkowitz the son of Sam killer I cover the column mind case Ricky Casso who was the boy who murdered his best friend in the mid 80s and made the the other kid Say say you love satan before he killed him. I have the Red like Indian murder Jeff vice who Gunned down his grandfather and shot up his school He used to Sculpt his hair into devils horns. That's why he was expelled from his high school

43:18He was you know he got involved with satanism So the primary case studies are people who are serial killers who are also satanists And in the final chapter I covered the things we talked about earlier like the Bohemian Grove and the Scullin bones and the Bilderberg group Which is the European component of this satanic ball Which is quite frightening so As I say people can read the entire book satanic crime and I do this in memory a Michael Corbin for this week They can read both books loser versage and say tannin crime in ebook form And I can say with confidence both books together are the best overview of satanism and devil worship You're gonna get out there. I made it very concise and clear They're not super well. They're full lay books, but they're not you know 700 page books You know there they're Under 200 pages each and I've consolidated a lot of the material now

44:26Satanic crime has gotten a lot of great critical review Brad Stiger The famous power normal writer wrote the back cover blurb for it So I've gotten a lot of A lot of great critical acclaim for a Danny Schechter Really loved the book he is a two-time Emmy winner Mike Sala who won the Pulitzer prize a couple years ago really likes the book So this is the best nonfiction kind of work you will see concerning satanism that's out there Now combine that with my satanic crime multimedia page and a cult media page I can say safely that William H. Kennedy calm Is the very best web page on a cult history that's on the internet at this time And I challenge anybody to show me a better one and I'm even willing to put up my material for free You know even the stuff I normally sell to bring that point home

45:29There's no better place for an education in the cult history than William H. Kennedy calm Well, and again, we'll put links to those in the show notes of pid radio calm I had the opportunity to interview Danny Schechter when I was hosting the radio show out in Missouri He's the director of production very good in debt we trust Right. Yeah, very interesting very intelligent guy. So that's I've known him since I was seven years old. He used to date my oldest sister in the early 1970s My oldest sister's 15 years older than I am. I've known Danny a long time and Danny in those days was actually the Rock journalist at WBC and embossed and so I got to meet people like a bomb Arlee and all sorts of famous, you know, Peter Tosh. I met through Danny. I met Love the Taylor the singer all sorts of rock and roll p. Aero Smith I met so Danny's an old friend and he's a wonderful wonderful filmmaker now. Yeah, and back that back then he was more a hippie

46:36Well, he gets it because his his film in debt we trust is a Skating indictment of the banking industry in the way I did see it. It was a very good very very good book. Yeah, I'm very good documentary. I mean, I'm sorry And I mean even the debt crisis now the whole whole mortgage. This is all tied into the same people. Oh sure sure You know, it's all the same people on the table. Yeah. Oh, yeah It's very quickly getting rid of the middle class, which is going to turn us into a world of surfs Well, that's the thing. It will be corporate feudalism and will be surfs And they'll have some kind of small middle class like accountants and lawyers That serve these rich people's needs, but the rest of us will be well. We are being catapulted into abject poverty I just saw a 60 minutes report last week on the the The home crisis and it's unbelievable in California now. It's by one house get one free

47:37It's unbelievable. It's collapsed. It's like tomatoes at the supermarket. You know by one get one free. This is houses And it there again, it's just a lot of greedy people at the top of the economic pyramid most of whom are involved with Satanism Who are involved with Luciferian secret societies and this is all this part of their greater plan You know just very quickly and you sort of addressed this earlier on in discussing bohemian grove and the common objection that people will raise Oh, these are just a bunch of guys getting together for fun the Satanists that you write about in satanic crime a threat in the new millennium guys like Ramirez and Ergo is burcoids and so forth uh To how would you respond to people who say well these guys are just play acting They were going to be evil no matter what and this idea of Satan gave them a an external

48:41image with which to identify To what extent are these guys really in league with a literal intelligent evil that we identify as Satan? Well, I from their own testimonies, right? That's not what they're saying they're actually like Ricky castle The boy he claimed to have visions of Lucifer in the forest and Lucifer used to tell him to murder people and Lucifer told him that no matter what he would protect him Now what happened to Ricky castle is once he was arrested for the murder of his friend And they threw him in a regular prison. He was like I think 16 or 17 He soaked up from all the drugs he was on and you know He was always the toughest kid in the neighborhood But when he found himself in a real prison around real adult criminals who weren't going to take any baloney From a 16-year-old kid Lucifer wasn't there for to protect him and Ricky castle wound up hanging himself in prison. He killed himself

49:45You know not long after he was arrested So when you look at the actual testimonies of these people who should repair as the same thing He sincerely believed that Lucifer would protect him no matter what and in the case of remere as he was sold over by a cop once and The cop had him stand outside his car why he checked a license plate. It was a stolen car What remere has did is he drew a pentagram and the dust on the hood of the car and prayed to Lucifer and ran away Now according to the cop who chased him remere has had kind of some super human running strength and was able to hop over a fence That this cop was unable to get over like he hopped over like a rabbit So and that that was in Philip Carlos book on Richard Ramirez too. It's not just me saying it So you know not only do these people pledge their allegiance to Lucifer

50:48Sometimes they exhibit extraordinary strength which makes it seem as if Lucifer is in certain circumstances protecting them as as in that case with remeres No, it's unbelievable So as far as people say oh, it's just a metaphor they use that they would have done it anyway Well, not according to the killers themselves and that's really what you got to go by not Monday morning water backs Who analyze everything and you listen to the people themselves There are some who connect Charlie Manson David Brickowitz both to the process church either tangentially or directly is remeres involved in that was he involved in that? He was not involved with the process church what who Richard Ramirez was involved with and few people know this was Anton Leve At the purchase Satan He went before he went on his killing spree spent a week in San Francisco with Anton Leve

51:50and performed a variety of Demonic rituals and then he left and went on his murder of spree now when Ramirez was being tried For these murders Anton Leve's daughter Zeno Leve showed up at his trial to see what he was saying to see if he was going to Emplicate them in any way So Ramirez wasn't so much process church affiliated but he was strongly church of Satan affiliated And I'm gonna have to go back and check this because it back in my memory is tickling Perhaps a connection between the church of Satan and de Grimston who formed the process church as a splinter group of Yes, there is So it's sort of like the six degrees of Alistair Crowley here because of course you can connect Leve back through about two three links to Alistair Crowley Oh, yeah, it's I bring that out in in Satanic crime and what's fascinating is two of Charles Minson's followers now Minson wrote an article for the process church magazine and he lived right near de Grinston in San Francisco

52:56But two of his followers Susan Atkins and Bobby Bosele were church or Satan members before they joined the Minson family Susan Atkins was a stripper and what she did is Anton Leve hired her to be in his topless Witches review which was a strip show he did in North Beach in San Francisco in the mid 60s and What Susan Atkins would do is she would come out of a coffin Topless and she would play the role of a vampiris and she had a long red finger meal and she used to lick it and Lore the you know that the sick You know trench coat wearing men who came to these things and You know two years later she was licking the blood of Sharon tape off of her fingers after she murdered her so that the church of Satan was kind of a Warm-up for a lot of these serial killers

53:58well And that's the that's the obvious overt face of evil and of course bill your research is also tracked the the benign smiling face of Satan through your book Lucifer's Lodge satanic ritual abuse in the Catholic church and Through the other research available at your website that looks at the Secret society connections through the of the rich and powerful as they Again put forth a very mainstream public face To to their evil and if you ask me that's the more dangerous of the two because that's the The the enemy that we don't know You know, all right, but we're totally evil that are professing a belief in Satan The war and sheep's clothe right those are the ones we can avoid but the wolves and sheep's clothing very right Are the ones we need to watch out for and your website will you make Kennedy calm is a good resource for Starting a piece together some of these puzzle pieces again Very quickly. We just have about a minute or so left bill just outline again your website and what resources people can find there

55:01It's William h kennedy.com William h kennedy.com My two ebooks will be up there for free my personal development courses will be up there for free and my occult history Multimedia pages are up there for free for for everyone for as long as my webpage Shall exist William aes kennedy.com bill thanks for taking time out on this the Sunday afternoon to join us and we look forward talking with you again soon Very good. The big you Sharon Thank you Bye bye Meanwhile, but we will put all the links that we discussed in today's show to the topics that we discussed in today's show at the website pid radio.com and the forum is always open and available for your discussion of the show today or anything you hear on pid radio And you'll find the link and in the show notes at pid radio.com. That's right. And don't forget William aes kennedy's offer The free downloads for the next week. That's through June 7th of

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