Todd Frazier Matched Up Against J.R. Smith In High School

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2:03I'm with my son, Jeff Kirkchin. And our special guest today is my teammate at ESPN, former major leager, Todd Frazier, the Todd father, Todd, say hi to Jeff again. Long song. What's up? Todd, we're going to start with something that I think you're going to like right behind you, you have a jersey of your, a picture of yourself wearing what number Todd? That's number 21 right there, too. Right. So on today's pod, Todd, the one we, we taped yesterday, since it's Roberto Clemente Day, I did the greatest players at each position to wear number 21 because that's what Clemente wore. So our third basement was Todd Frazier, number 21. How about that? You've got, I must have been the only one because there was a lot more,

3:06not better third basement than I was, but guess what? I will take that honor and I'm going to run with it. So I appreciate that Tim, you always put a smile on my face. Yes, well, I want you to put a smile on my face, Todd, before we get to the unimportant stuff, I want you to help me with this, okay? Michael Jordan, fouls a guy on the way to the basket, and it's a two shot foul. I just want you, the referee, to call that play. It's a hack. Whatever you want to call it, guys, going to shoot to Michael Jordan, number 23 on the foul. I want to see Todd Frazier, the NBA referee, call that play. So it's here. We're looking, we got the uncut here. Two, one, here we got two shots. Come on, that's all. Now we can have some fun. It's amazing, Todd.

4:06It never gets old for us, Kirkton, to see you doing the basketball wrap. No, I'm not sure why I love, look, you have to repeat that the day that you got forced in to be at a referee because there was some old guy that couldn't run up and down the court. Just please tell us one more time when they call you in and what happened. Please, one more time, Todd. Listen, I'm always a man of the people. I got to help anybody I can. So, oh man, he's done for the day. I have to come in and be that guy, dude. I'm 10 seconds here. If you're not getting over the line, I'm counting them out. Like, I took the, Tim, you know me. I took it as serious as possible, man. I'm getting yelled left and right at each other. I'm making calls left and right. I'm telling you, there was a scout there, Tim. I wouldn't have been a professional baseball player. I would be NBA and a referee in the NBA right now. My antics were here. It's windshield wipers.

5:07What the fuck? So, yes, listen, the story's on stories of me, referee. A lot of the guys still hit me up today, asking for referee, but you know Mike Monaco, our good buddy. We just had him on the party. Did a great impression of you. Oh. Him and Chris Barker texted me every like other month. Todd, I need a charge call. So, I get my son to videotape me and I'm running up and down the hall. He's going, here, here, here. So, you know, it's a miracle that I made it this long playing professional baseball. Listen, I can bear rough. I don't want to be forward and dad. I don't want to make you uncomfortable, but you know, at my dad's funeral, Todd, I want you to come and tell us where he is. So, I just want you to say, Tim Kirchian, he's here. He's up there. No, that's where he's at. You gotta go spiting. You gotta go spiting. He's here. What's your spiting?

6:08Spiting. There. There. Everybody in the funeral home will be like, Todd, get out. And you will be laughing your butt off. Oh my god. Everybody, everybody would love it. Because that's what my dad would want. Todd, you would be a great NBA referee. You would also be a great major league umpire. So, let's see your classic strike one, your classic strike two, and your strike three. And Fatick Strike three on let's say a looking call third strike. All right, well, I'm already in position, man. You got me all fired up here. So, for the first of all, mask, I'm right here. Boom, pinch, bring it, set up. You're shown. Oh my god.

7:09So, it changes, it changes monthly, Tim. You know, you're probably seeing 30 on my red. Yeah, my co-host on the radio. He always asked me, Jeff, let's, let's see how you would have punched that guy out or let's see strike two. And I said, well, was strike one looking? Because I'll change my call. If strike one was looking and he goes, well, let me hear strike one. And I said, well, did he just punch a guy out? Because if he just punched a guy out, my strike one looking is, is not punch out level, but it's aggressive. Because you just had a strike out looking and you fire gas again, looking, I'm like, guys, come on, you got to swing. Yeah, get it. Yeah, no, I missed this. I missed this. Listen, it's your time too, as an umpire. Like, listen, I want to make sure the people at home can hear the call, you know? I mean, if you enjoy Steve Rye, like that was his famous strike call. Like that's something that you got it. I'm telling you, 99% of these umpires are looking in a mirror and doing what I did. Like, is that the right call?

8:11Or is this, you know what I mean? And they're telling their significant others, like, watch me real quick. Like, how does that look? I'm telling you right now, they must have done it a bunch of times. Yeah, they're shopping an old Navy with their wife and they're in the women's section going, I don't know. Honey, it's like when we do our golf swing out in public, they're doing their strike call. What do we think about this? Or if it's your father at the grocery store, looking at the Cheerio, should I get two for two? Or should I get one for one? Now, we'll go two for two with a slight lane to the right. Back in the day, Cratsy and I were looking for tickets. It was so hard to find a seat or anything available. You'd have to go online and there was nothing there. But now with Seat Geek, they make it so much easier for you. They have the green light special. What does that mean? It means when the green light is on, you can get some of the best seats available. Go to Seat Geek. Cratsy understands how easy it is. Yeah, I know you used to scout your tickets, but look, it's way, way better now

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11:16I got to be honest with you. It brings out the craziness and people. It brings out the fun and people. Look, I mean, you talk about stories. You have a story for every, I can name a color right now. Blue. And you'd be like, oh, vital blue. Let me tell you something. You know what I mean? You can, I can talk, I can give you a word. Like, if you said Todd, give me a random word. I can say, you know, chameleon. You'd be like, oh my god, this guy tripped over chameleon back in the day. 65. And you would know exactly who it was. What team he played for, and what day it was, and if the sun was out or not, you're that good of a person. Sports is so integral in life in my opinion, because it brings out the best in everybody. And when you talk about Tim Kirkshan, Todd, I don't know. It's a notebook thing for him. I mean, he writes all of this stuff. Yeah. And don't, don't write on the back pages. That's for darn sure. Fronts only. No, no, no, no, no. You don't write on the back of a notebook.

12:19That's the problem. I don't want to waste, I'm trying not to waste as much paper. So I'm not going to do that. That's not what a professional does. I want a professional man. I'm going to work in a barrier him with a couple notebooks when he passes away. So he's going to need a couple to write down what he sees in the book. Oh, down. Even on that day, he's going to have a to-do list that he wants to cross off. Okay, close casket. Cross it off. You're okay. Exactly. Right. Jeff, I did foul territory with these knuckleheads the other day. And Todd imitated me. It's the worst impersonation ever. But it sounds a lot like me, which just shows you I have the worst voice ever. But this is what happened. Yes, go Todd. It's only, it's only when you get excited or when you get high pitch. I can't talk to you normally. But when you get excited over things, you go out here. I don't know where, why it goes up there, but it does. And your chin goes up and that big old snows of yours looks right ahead.

13:22Oh, man, look at that bad boy. Jesus. Todd, look at this. When I go like this, it looks like a two-car garage. It's terrible. I wish I had a different house. Oh, man. I love every second, then. We'll never get through the show. It's fantastic. Right. So, so, Jeff, Todd challenged me on foul territory the other day to come up with a team Tim for the all baseball team each position from cities in New Jersey. That's what Todd Frazier asked me to do. And a nearly 70 year old man went right to work on this because I was challenged. It's like throwing a fastball by Todd Frazier. He can't allow this to happen again. So, I came up with the team. Now, Todd, you gotta remember, I'm an expert at these things. So, Todd suggests that he's got two guys. He's got since he's from Tom's River.

14:26He's got two guys. Tom Seever and Mickey Rivers have to be on the team. So, I had to do my own team, Todd. And if I offend you with this, I'm sorry. We're gonna start and help me here. We're gonna start with our pitching staff. And our first pitcher is Tommy Tom's T-O-M-S, who pitch for two years with the Giants in the mid 70s. And our second pitcher is River Ryan. So, our first two pitchers make up Tom's river. I did that just for you. It took forever, but I found it. I cannot believe that. That's incredible. That's a great talk, Tim. All right, I'm gonna run through the rest. And again, these are cities and townships, Todd. Okay, so not all of them are cities, but I did the best I could here. We had Ryan Franklin. I think that's a township. We had Madison.

15:26Yeah, Franklin Township. One-Garner. Our catcher. I love this ob-Kirney city in New Jersey. There was actually a first baseman. He didn't play very long. His name was Trenton Brooks. Who knew? I forgot about Trenton. Oh, wow. But I found him. There was a guy who played in the minor league's name Newark, but I couldn't use him because he didn't play in the big leagues. So that's pitcher through first base. How am I doing so far? Have I upset you or am I okay? No, you're spot on, brother. The only one I give it, it's called, it's you said Kirney. So the township is called Kirney. Is that a difference or not? Yeah, no, no, no, Todd, this is, you have to correct me on these things. If I'm going to go, if I'm going to go, Tommy Thompson River, Ryan, we have to get this properly correct. Okay. So David, David Hamilton is our second baseman. UL Washington is our third and shortstop.

16:30Roy Howell is our third baseman. Cory Patterson, like the third biggest city in New Jersey. Cory Patterson, Reggie Jackson, Craig Monroe, and our D.H. Even though we should be in Outfielder is AJ Ewing. Those are all cities or townships in New Jersey. That's what I did in my spare time, Todd. I got to be honest with you. Putting Reggie Jackson is two towns above me. That is phenomenal. Oh my God. How the heck in God's creation did you figure that out? That's a really good township team. I'll take that every day. Okay. I did that. I'll be the head coach. Now I'll be the player coach. All right. Now Jeff, now that I'm in Todd's good graces, I'm going to lose him here. I did a show the other day. It was like a trivia based like podcast.

17:30And we had to name the last player for each franchise to hit 40 homers in a season. And I must say I did pretty well on this. I got almost every question right. I might have gotten them all right, except for this one. Who was the last Chicago White Suck to hit 40 homers in a season? I even got a clue. And I couldn't get the answer, Jeff. Todd Frazier in 2016. Todd, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I made a mistake. I couldn't remember that you would hit 40 for the White Suck. Are you still talking to me? I am. I am. What was the clue? What they said? Do you remember? The clue was he didn't play for the White Sucks for very long and he was much more well known as a national league player. And I tried and I tried. And I was. So Jeff, this is what I live for. This is what I'm born for.

18:30This is the only thing in the world I'm any good at. And I miss Todd Frazier, who is our guest on the show. Terrible. This is why he doesn't do a maculat grid, because he thinks if he doesn't get the most rare score of anybody on the internet, he's going to be ostracized from this community. So he says, that's work to me. He loves wortles. Wurtles, great. Don't you do all the other ones too, Dad? Don't you? What else do you do? You do the waffle? I do waffle. I do wortle and I do the spelling bee thing. And that's all I do. Because like I said, if I get it a maculat grid wrong, I would just kill myself. Because this is the only thing I'm any good at. And if I can't, if I get one of those, it would be like Todd playing in a high school game and striking out three times, which would never happen. But yeah. So I was funny. In the White Sucks, they had a guy. He just played on the Metz. I think they released him. He had 39 home runs and almost got to 40. He didn't get it. Who's the guy that got traded to the Metz?

19:33He's an outfield. Luis Robert. Luis Robert. Yes. He got 39. He didn't get to 40. And I was like, all right, I still got one thing going for me. So I was happy about that. I'll be honest with you. I want to keep that 40 and move on from there. Right. That Todd, Mira, Kamis got a shot at 40. He's going to have to get awfully high. I'm going to get it. Colson Montgomery. He might hit 40 also. You might be surpassed on the White Sucks list, right? I talk to the teams that they're playing. We're going to go four pitch walk here. We're going to go four pitches. We're going to send them to first. And what position does not murder Kamis, the other guy playing? Colson Montgomery is a shortstop. And he's as big as you. He's as big as you Todd. And he's a shortstop. He's a big kid. And he's got great power. He's also got 200 strikeouts. So third base, I'll keep the third base mark.

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22:37You know, Tim knows just like I do. Not he's professional. But when you get him outside of his realm, he's one of the funniest human beings you'll ever be around in your life. Just like we'll be talking, Jeffrey, we'll be talking. And you know, we'll say a word and a timid eye around. And then like a saying name like, oh, you know, Johnny did this. And he's like Johnny Apple seed. Johnny Bench. Like, and we just go back and forth on names with Johnny. And then it'll give. And then all of a sudden we'll be like, oh, pasta. And he's like, pasta, basil, you know, really Johnny and Tim understands fully. And we just go back and forth on naming things that have the other word in it. And all of a sudden we just bust out laughing. And then those is in the middle. Like what is wrong with you guys here? Yeah, I'll give you a good story this year. It happened.

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24:40Or he, for, yeah, if he didn't have, couldn't find his keys in his car. It was like 9.30, 10 o'clock at night. So I'm waiting there for him. We're trying to open up this car for about 20 minutes. Low and behold, it was the car next to it. There were two rental cars. And we're trying to open the wrong rental car up. And he's like, oh, he's like, Frash, I think it's this car. I said, please don't. He dumped out. He had everything in his backpack dumped out. We couldn't find anything. And he talked about that. And I said, man, this is a good way to go out for you and ESPN you. We started laughing on fire. Just, that's a good, he was being. Right. So Jeff, I've received a lot of really personal gifts in my life as a baseball writer for 46 years. But this is pretty close to the top of the list. This came as a surprise. The pinmaster at Williamsport Todd Frazier came up with this pin of me, Ravi and Todd,

25:42doing it together in the booth. We did 100 games in the booth over those five years. I'm sure. Or maybe not that many, but a lot. So Todd, tell us the thinking behind making this pin for me and Ravi and for you. Well, I mean, I wanted to show off the personality. There are a little bit. So you see how big I am, Carl, you know, a little bit bigger. And then I got a little Timmy's head. So I wanted to make his head like kind of stick out here a little bit, you know, just like I'm Carl's shoulder. Yeah, it's beautiful thing right there. And then the next one I made you look like a little mouse. Like it was, it was just an ongoing little thing that we had going on. I don't know if you have the other one with you. I'm sure he knows. It's somewhere in here. Oh, here it is. Here it is. There it is. Look at the tiny. I can't. My nose is bigger than my head here.

26:43That's ridiculous. Oh, hey, listen, Tim, I know you really enjoy him. I wouldn't have made those if I knew you wouldn't get a good laugh. But those pins were going like hot cakes and everybody loves pancakes. So everybody wanted a little piece of this year. People were asking, who did you make a pin with the little guy on it? I said, oh, I'm just talking about Tim. I said, listen, that's not a little guy. That's Mr. Whiz in my column. He's got the wisdom. Don't call him. Okay. And I said, I didn't make him this year, but I'm sure I'll think of something next year. That's pretty good. What is the latest on the pins, Todd? What's our best guess on how many pins you have and how and where are they displayed at the moment? Yeah, I have more downstairs in the basement on big cork boards. My wife found this site that makes like six by four feet cork boards. So they're all stacked up.

27:44I got to put all the new ones on. I would say honestly, anywhere from 12 to 15,000, I haven't really counted, but I know I'm in the five digits of pins. And there was a lot of good ones this year, especially for the 250th anniversary of America and the 25th anniversary of 9.11. There were some really, really good pins. I made one too with an eagle covering the twin towers. It was pretty cool. Very clear. Right. Right. Not to bring up a bad subject, Todd, but I know I've never asked you this. Where were you at 9.11? Exactly where were you when all this happened? Yeah, I was in high school. I was a sophomore in high school. And I was going to my history class for Mr. Powerts, Mitch Powerts, who was my system baseball coach. And my buddy Andy Altman comes to me and said, dude, the twin towers are gone. Hmm. Or one of the twin towers just got hit by a plane on my, and Andy was a joke. So my Andy, get the class. Leave me alone. I go in the history class, long behold,

28:46the TVs on showing exactly what happened. And it was just pandemonium, really. I mean, people were crying. I'm 50 miles from New York City. I remember one of the girls coming up to me in our class. You know, I got to make a call. She ran out of class. Teach, like, you can't leave. People were going bonkers, making sure family members OK. Coming back the next day in my arms, crying saying, my uncle, for the first time, who works in the twin towers, missed the bus to go to work. And he said, I guess what? I'm just going to miss one day, long behold. That was the day he missed. So the stories were incredible. It was crazy, just absolutely crazy. You know, similarly, Todd, you know, I was much younger. I was in the third grade, but I was 20 miles from the Pentagon. Where, where, where, oh, wow. Yeah, so very different experience for us in the DC area than those. And, you know, I went to Syracuse.

29:47We had a lot of friends who were, you know, Manhattan people, New Jersey, you know, Westchester, County, all that stuff. Like, so I know the stories to be very different. And it can be, it's really crazy, but I always think to myself, it's so important, especially this time of year, to keep the stories alive. Because jokes aside, before we know it, people are going to be our great-grandkids are going to be asking, well, how old were you? Great-grandpa, when you were there. And what happened? And do you remember it? And I mean, I remember, sorry, dad, not being funny, but I remember the first time I connected the dots of how old my dad was when John F. Kennedy was assassinated. Like, when I figured that out, first thing I asked him, what do you remember? And that seems like, eons ago, right? But he was a child for that, and we'll have that, you know, when we're growing up, and our kids' kids are asking us about it. So I think it's so important to keep those stories alive and keep talking about it, to keep the memory of those we lost alive, of course. No doubt. And Todd, how did baseball help us get through 9-11? Because I have a bunch of stories that I remember,

30:49like they were yesterday. What do you think baseball, what kind of role did baseball play in getting the country through 9-11? Yeah, I think it played a huge part. I mean, two things I could think of, you know, George Bush, junior, right? Yeah, GW, throwing out the first pitcher, Yankee Stadium. I get goosebumps thinking about that. Absolute strike, right down the plate. I mean, you couldn't have scripted it any better. Some, the crowd going bockers couldn't happen in a better place in New York. And I think about that Mike Piazza home run. I mean, holy cow. I mean, those are the two things I think of that. People are like, yeah, listen, it's a second thought compared to what really happened. But when you think about aftermath, there's something you gotta find and hold on to, to get you right a little bit. You know, it's not always gonna be the same. But something that can take your mind off it, even the first split second.

31:50And I thought those were two instances right there where I was like, woo, man, this is America, man. We know, this is the best place in the world. So that was the two things I think about. I know we take sports very seriously, right? And for you, Todd, and dad, you know, it's your livelihood. But what are sports for if not taking you away from reality for a bit? And we needed something as to help us move forward. And I think baseball and so many others, comedy and film and other things helped us get there. And so, Todd, thank you for sharing those stories. I know we're a couple days post, 25th anniversary, but it's all fascinating to hear that for sure. Right, and I was at the George W. Bush game, of course. And I still get goosebumps thinking about it because I was there and it was unbelievably powerful. And you had Bobby Valentine didn't shoot the other day, Todd, on foul territory. Yeah. Did he tell you stories about what that night was like

32:52when Piazza at the Homer office Steve Carse? Yeah, and I was the one that asked, I asked him about it. And you know, you could see how he was emotional. He was emotional about the whole thing. He's talking about how, you know, security was everywhere. How they needed something, you know, the game was just kind of going blah a little bit. And they were the only team there in New York at the time. And all of a sudden Big Mike Piazza comes up, hits that home run. And he said it was one of the best memories he's had in a baseball game coaching a game ever. And how it brought a city together and how everybody was, whether you were a Yankee fan, Matt Fan or no fan, something had to hit you in a strong way after that happened, you said. Yeah. Chad, you played for six major league teams. Some more than others, the reds, of course, at the beginning of your career.

33:52Do you have, do you have mementos from all of those teams? Do you have pictures? Just what do you do with the teams for which you played during your career? Yeah, I mean, that's a great question. I, I was a big collector of baseball cleats. So I have about 60 in my, in my man cave, whether it was from players on my team or other teams. I collected scorecards like my 600th RBI, whatever team I was on. I think that might have been the white socks or mats I forget. My 500th run was another team, my first home run with the reds. My three run home run in the playoffs with the Yankees. Rangers, first home run in that new stadium. I took that scorecard. Pirates, I got nothing, but I only played 19 days there. I think I was two for 32. And it was my last at bat ever in a major league uniform

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35:59Hi, it's Marcus Allen, pro football hall of favor, NFL MVP, and Super Bowl champion. I played football for a long time. One thing I've learned is nobody really knows what's going to happen next. Before the snap, you can study the defense, you can know the play, and you can see the opening. But eventually, you have to make a decision and go. For me, that was the fun of football. The moment between getting the ball and finding out whether you made the right read, I loved it. And it's why I understand what Underdog brings the sports fans. Because once you make your pick, you're not just watching anymore. Every snap matters, every yard matters, every decision matters. Everybody thinks they know what's coming next. Well, Underdog gives you somewhere to put that opinion into play. Pick them, money lines, totals, spreads, games, and more across your favorite sports. So trust your read, make your call, and see what happens. Download Underdog and get in on the action today. Underdog, unleash your dog. Trading and false risk, including total loss on positions, content is promotion only, not a recommendation to trade, terms apply.

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38:00So his last at bat as a major leagueer was a home run in game seven of the World series. And then he retired. That's pretty incredible. And I cut this way off the topic, but I covered Mike Witt's perfect game in 1984. And the final batter in that game was Mar-Foli, who grounded out to second base as a pinch hitter. And it was his final at bat in the major leagues was an out to finish a perfect game. I mean, only baseball can supply these ridiculous coincidences. And yours was just a little bleeder to right field. But a nox and nox. Hey, you can tell everyone, hey, I got it. I went to Williamsport. I got a head, right? I'm happy I also be about it. I feel, regularly, freaking feel. Yeah, I'll take it. It was that it was not regularly. And then they brought me in the next day and they're like, hey, dude, you're gone.

39:03I'm like, okay, that's, that was a little better. I was a little better. But then I played for Team USA, though. I got the finish my career with Team USA. So that was great. And that time I know you told us about that last year when we talked to you. But what was your highlight of Team USA? I mean, you're playing for your country for goodness sakes. What was that like? I get such a kick. I love baseball. I love battling against camaraderie. I think back to when I played in high school, the, you know, the teams that you hate him and despise, I would get so amped up for them. But there's nothing like a feeling when you got to play against any country in the world. We opened up with Nicaragua. And I was telling the boys, I got him in a hot on fire and I'm off. I said, these guys are coming for us. All of a sudden they're up one nothing in the first. And actually we're in Port Saint Lucy. And I think most of the crowd is cheering for Nicaragua.

40:03And I'm like, hold, I told him. I said, listen, nobody wants to see us lose. Are everybody wants to see the USA lose? I promise you that. Now let's go out and beat him. I think we won eight to one. But then we, you know, we play a Dominican team. Oh, man, what's some of the bats they had there? Venezuela, when you play against another country and you have the red, white and blue on, I don't care what sport it is. I don't care if it's hopscotch. I don't care if it's eating, you know, who can eat more eggs? But I'm wearing USA. It is an absolute thrill. It's an honor and it's a battle because they're going to bring their whoever it is. And we played really well. We didn't lose a game until we got to the championship. And the gold medal match we lost to Japan, to nothing they had. You know what they're doing? Japan, Tim and Jeff, they, they stopped their professional league for two weeks just for the Olympics. And we had some non-forty-man guys we had, you know, guys that were trying to get back

41:05and league. We only lost two nothing. I tell you what, if we had a five game series, I think we get them. That is so cool. Didn't you break out in a song at one point during team USA? What, what are your teammates told us that you just started singing to the team? Is that true? Tell that story. You know, it was Eddie Alvarez. Remember Eddie Alvarez, the, we had him on the show. He's good. Right. The Winter Olympics and the Summer Olympics. Trying to remember what the hell I was singing. I do it so often, I forget. It was like an opera song. And I came out like this. I can, I did something. And I believe it was a radio night, if I remember correctly. Oh, yes, you're right. Yes, right. It's a joy. Like a living ending. You can tell I'm horse right now. But I'm not afraid to make the team laugh. And some people might think I'm silly and being an idiot.

42:06I don't care. That's just the person I am. So Todd, I'm obviously a big proponent of clubhouse vibes. Like I think a team needs a guy like a Todd Frazier. But you're that guy for a lot of teams you played for. But did you ever have another vibes guy? I mean, you were a great major league player, but you also kept things light in the clubhouse, which is important. Is there anybody else you played with? You were like, yeah, me and this guy. Like, or that you learned the importance of that from because of the vibes he was putting off. There's not there's not many out there like like me, Jeff. And I'm not trying to do. I'm not trying to do my own horn. I am humble as they come. But I was an idiot when I was in the clubhouse. And I'm telling you right now, I told my wife this. I said, listen, you will never know who I was when I was playing baseball. You'll know what you'll see me playing. But indoors, the stories and the fun times I had,

43:09not many could top what I did. And some of them might say just downright crazy. And I was. I was a little cookie because I wanted everybody to do well. And if I had to go through extremes to make somebody smile and be an idiot, so be it. I'm trying to. Todd, tell the story about how you used to leave the trainers room in Cincinnati and go out to the field for a game. And you sang the same stupid song to everyone in the training room. Is that correct? Would you please explain? So whatever I would do roll call. So when I came in the training room, like the Yankee Stadium, and I'd go, and I'd hit the door, I'd go, I go, ho. And whoever was in front of me, even if it was one of them, I'd be like Brandon, Phyllis, Brandon. And I would do it until he gave me like a wave or a tip of the cap. And if they would run away from me and be like, oh, you're done. And then I would do the training step.

44:11And I told my spare. He is finished. Like, and I was going through a nap. And then I would finish with our masseuse. Her name was Mickey. Great. One of the greatest massagers you'll ever happen. You're like professional. And I go, Mickey, and she give the wave and tip. I go, hey, Mickey, you're so fine. You blow my mind. Hey, Mickey. And that's how it is. And that's how we would finish it up. So Mickey, I love you to death. I hope she's doing well. But she got to kick out of that every time I did it for her. John, how you can really say, don't be modest about this. How long have you been singing? Did you sing in a choir? Where did you sing? Singing, Ellen, Jeffrey can really sing. Where did your voice come from? Jeffrey can sing. I'm an apostle. I was in a choir for two or two years, maybe three years.

45:14And I don't have any video, but you could tell. Like, I was into it with the hand gestures within. But I mean, I didn't really take it seriously. But I like harming and humming and doing harmonizations. I love Acapella, Jeffrey. I love listening to people do Acapella. I dream one day that I could do that. It's just not I'm not ever even close to that. Todd, we can make this happen. So in 2011, I went to Syracuse for my freshman year and I started an Acapella group with my friends. And our mascot is Otto. So we were the Otto tunes. And that was 15 years ago, Todd, and the group still is going strong. And no way. Yeah, it was just a bunch of guys who were singing in our basement of our dorm and then the dining halls. And now, Otto tunes is very much alive and well. So if you ever find yourself in Syracuse, New York,

46:18for any reason whatsoever, you're going to a game to see the AAA team there. You're going to visit the team. Who knows? You call me immediately. You tell me what song you want. And they'll have backing vocals for you in no time at all. And they'll let you have the dream of singing with an Acapella group. That's awesome. It's a done deal. It's it. I'm in. I'm in. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. I had to is the lead, but you could be baritone anytime. Baratone me. I'm ready. I'm going to tell you what you did. Don't be dead. Ask Jeff once. Wouldn't it be better if you put a little music to the words? Wouldn't that be better? And he had to explain to that. That's the point we don't need any music. We're Acapella. It is great. If you if you can get somebody that sounds like the music in the background to the beats, there's nothing better than that too. It's crazy. I told my dad when he chat GPT can do more than answer

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49:23The NFL report hosted by me, Andrew Sassin-Leano. It is your home for everything football. Williams, dressing, sprinting for space, in all kinds of trouble for the uppercase. The end of the day, they got it. For the touchdown, they've done it again. We're tapping the biggest news stories, giving you expert analysis, fantasy previews, game picks, and more. We fly around every single play. We dominate every single play. Want to hear from the league's top stars out of the biggest matchups? We've got you covered. That's a really good football team. We got to have all hands on deck. Join me at an all-star cast of analysts for everything you need to know from around the league. Get new episodes of the NFL report Monday through Friday, all season long. Listen to the NFL report podcast on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Tell me that. I said, that's like going to a major league pitcher and saying, have you ever thought about throwing it in a place they can't hit it? Yeah, yeah, exactly.

50:24Exactly. Poor pop-up. So Todd, if we gave you karaoke today and you had one song to sing from your favorite artist, it could be a band, it could be Frank Sinatra, I don't care. Who are you gonna sing at karaoke? If you got one song to sing? There's only one song I sing, Tim. And I think you'll appreciate this one because it's kind of, you know, it was a little hipster back in the day. It was a little, it's kind of Jersey shores. For me, it would be under the boardwalk. Yeah. Hop by the sea. On a blanket with my baby. That's where you'll see Tim and I. Yeah, listen, like, that is the only song I sing at karaoke is under the boardwalk. Todd, that's your favorite. Like I said, you are a talented guy. You have a great voice. That is so great. Now, Todd, I want to just switch subjects for a second. Your dad is six foot eight, right?

51:27Yeah, yes. And you told me, and you're like six three, right? And you told me once, if I'd ever been as big as my dad. Now, Todd, if you had been six eight, I mean, I want to be fair here. You might not be as great a baseball player as you would have been because it's harder to be a position player at six eight. That's why Aaron Judges of Miracle that he's this good at six seven, two eighty two. If you were indeed the size of your dad, six eight, what? I mean, you might have played the big leagues, but what were the options if you were six eight? Well, I would think I'd be like a richie sex in time. Wasn't he pretty tall? He was six seven, yes. Maybe six eight. He's listened to two different heights, yeah. I feel like I would have hit like him, but if it was, if I was six eight, man, dude, listen, I was, it would have to be basketball then. I mean, I think I'd have to go the route that you went

52:29and you couldn't muster it up. It was, it's just something that I would have to do basketball and it would have to be, I would have to want to rockers. Right. Definitely. I would have broke all the records there in basketball. You know, you never know. Played for the New Jersey nuts back in a day with Keith van Horn. I don't know. Maybe something like that. You know, it's funny. It's funny, Todd, because my dad and I constantly look at each other and go, you know, if we were five eight, what the things we could have done if we had hit that number. Yes. Oh my God. Todd, how many points, how many be, don't be modest. How many points did you score your senior year in high school? What'd you ask? I averaged 20 on the dot my senior year 20. That is pretty cool. Now tell us about the time. I think I got this right that you're playing against JR Smith. What? How did that go? So it was one of our last games to the year. And we're playing against JR and on my coach, let me get him.

53:31We'll go box one. Everybody knows what a box and one is. It's a box zone. And then the one guy, meaning me, has to chase around the best player on the court. Now, if you knew me back then, I wasn't the best defender. So our coach says, man, what makes you think you can defend the best player in New Jersey? I said, I'm going to make it a point. I'm not going to, I don't care about points this and that. So let's go, hey, he goes screw it. Let's go. You got him, Todd. Yeah, let's go. Let's go. Everybody's fired at. Low and behold, this is one of the best teams in New Jersey. He comes down the lane. I get in front, take the charge. I get up. I get in his face. He elbows me in the chest. I get a technical and like literally, I couldn't breathe for about 30 seconds. He absolutely crushed me. He should have got thrown out of the game. Nobody called it out. What's fine? We don't want to see the best player out of the game. I'm not trying to win. I told the referee, I said, I don't want to win. I'm just, I can't breathe. It's OK. Long story short, we're up five, going in a half.

54:35I got 13 points. I'm locking him up. He's got, I think he's got about the same 13 points. He's having like 38 again. Half time they get the ball, right? Ball, and he takes one dribble over half a goal. So he goes, watch this phrase. Shoot it. Nothing but that. I call timeout. I said, I said, what was that? Our coach comes over. Who called timeout? He said, I didn't. He's going to make that shot. He ended up with 58 points. He dropped the 40 spot in the second half, and we lost by like 30. And I said, we'll get him next year. Don't worry. And that was it for my sophomore year in high school. You know, Todd, it's the funniest thing because when I was playing pickup regularly, I would always tell my buddies, I say, if you're the best pickup player, that's great. But we had some walk on on the Syracuse basketball team who never got a minute and a guy, not

55:37a friend of mine. And if he was, he wouldn't be a friend anymore. He says, oh, this guy, some scrubby barely made the team. He didn't miss a shot. He did not, and I'm saying you have to realize there's a difference between being a good pickup player and being a walk on on a division one major program. Okay. So when you see JR Smith, Todd was a great basketball player. No disrespect, but then you have JR Smith. Who's a long time NBA player? There's a huge difference. We saw our neighbor played with Kevin Durant. So we went to a game at Montreux Christian high school and Kevin came off the bench as a sophomore, mind you. And my favorite story about Kevin Durant, which we, my dad is told at Nazim and I love saying it too, is our neighbor's father was saying, if you want to be an NBA player, you got to go into the gym before practice. They always practice at 6 a.m. Before school, right. 200 shots after practice. Dad, no, I mean, I really want to work hard, but we practice before we practice after I'm exhausted,

56:40because there's only one guy in the team who will ever, ever even do that. Kevin Durant. It's time. The lesson is the levels of play people don't understand the levels of play. I played baseball in high school. Congratulations. I had nothing that has absolutely no bearing on playing in the big leagues and people don't see it that way. They should. Am I right? You're right. I saw the other day. I forget what football team might have been the giants. I don't know. And they asked at 100, at 100 pitches, how many would you put in play? And some guy said 10 or 20 and I started laughing because I, I thought Tim, I thought of you on the whole thing. And your answer would be definitely zero zero. I've asked it a million times. ChatGPT can do more than answer questions. It can help you get real work done. ChatGPT work is built for bigger projects with multiple steps.

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58:44Before the snap, you can study the defense, you can know the play and you can see the opening. But eventually, you have to make a decision and go. For me, that was the fun of football. The moment between getting the ball and finding out whether you made the right read, I loved it. And it's why I understand what Underdog brings the sports fans. Because once you make your pick, you're not just watching anymore. Every snap matters, every yard matters, every decision matters. Everybody thinks they know what's coming next. Well, Underdog gives you somewhere to put that opinion into play. Pick them, money lines, totals, spreads, games and more across your favorite sports. So trust your read, make your call and see what happens. Download Underdog and get in on the action today. Underdog, unleash your dog. Trading and ballspreech, including total loss on positions, content is promotion only not a recommendation to trade, terms apply. The NFL never stops and neither does its newest podcast. The NFL report hosted by me, Andrew Sassiliano. It is your home for everything football.

59:44Williams, drifting, sprinting for space. In all kinds of trouble for you, I'm preventing the international community. For the touchdown, they've done it again. We're tapping the biggest news stories, giving you expert analysis, fantasy previews, game picks and more. We fly around every single play. We dominate every single play. Want to hear from the league's top stars? Add to the biggest matchups? We've got you covered. That's a really good football team. We got to have all hands on deck. Join me at an all-star cast of analysts for everything you need to know from around the league. Get new episodes of the NFL report Monday through Friday, all season long. Listen to the NFL report podcast on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. We'll finish with a couple more here and then we'll let you go. We've taken way too much time. The football season opened yesterday. We're taping this on Monday. Who is your football team and how crazy of a fan are you for football?

1:00:48We talked about baseball and basketball. What's your football team and who's your guy? I'm a big Tampa Bay Buccaneer fan. Back in 1998, 1999, I really love my golf stop. The A-Train. Right. Purdue, Nate, Purdue. He wants to Purdue. Monty Kiffin with the Tampa two defense, Rodney Barber, John Lynch, Brooks. There was some really good players work done in the backfield. And Brad Johnson throwing with a glove on the Winter Super Bowl. I think it was 2003. So I really love them and I'm stickin with them. I hope they can figure it out. Their defense gave up 33 points. That's not a good start. I mean, we got it. We got to really get cookin' here. So we'll see what happens. But I'm going to stick with my Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But your son Todd, your seven-year-old son is tearing it up. Now just give a little shout out to the little guy who's running all over the field.

1:01:53Grant, Frazier, we call him toast. Grant toast. All he was toast when he was younger. This kid is an animal man. He loves it. He used to do flag football. Now we put him in pads. He's fast. He's not afraid of contact. He's a middle linebacker. They won. They're three and 0 right now. And looking for more. He had two touchdowns the other day. He's a beast and dad's up there screaming his head off acting like a lunatic. So I got to go up in the back of the end zone and be an animal myself. I Todd, explain the satisfaction of you hitting a major league homer. Or watching your seven-year-old son like Zigzag, it dart through everyone for a touchdown. What gives you more satisfaction? Oh man, definitely watching my kids doing anything. I mean, getting a single is more satisfaction. Striking a guy out of their pitch. Now my youngest grandson hitting holes and scoring touchdowns.

1:02:56There is nothing better than I tell him. I tell my boys, I want you to be better than I am. Please, I beg you, I implore you. Don't be afraid to be better than your dad, because you're going to be going places for sure, hopefully. Yeah, Steve Harvey famously once said, you know, your son will be the only man that you root to be better than you in your life when you really think about it. And with an amazing dad, like I have, I mean, he is my number one fan. He checks into the morning show. He's always checking on me, making sure everything's good. And we welcomed a son in June. Todd, I got the little three-year-old and three-year-old girl. And I would have never, I would have, like, I never knew what it was like to be a dad. And then I became a girl dad and it was everything and it's so beautiful. And then we found out we're having a boy. I'm like, I have no idea what to think about that. And now that we have him, it's a whole other relationship. And a whole new thing for me. So I'm really looking forward to it. He's not doing much now, but, you know, he's three months old.

1:03:57But we'll get there. We'll get there. He's starting to laugh at my bits, which we can take. Pop, yes. Pop, pop, Tim, I was supposed to do the interview with you guys in my sport. I got to get home. Ken the garden starts tomorrow. We'll talk down the road. Okay. I'm not missing the first day of Ken the garden. I said, okay. I said, I'm driving home. I'll see you later. So all good. And I appreciate that out of you, Tim. That's awesome. All right. Well, thank you, Todd. Now this is, I promised my last question. And I'm still not sure why I get a such a kick out of this. Just tell us all Todd, the famous person or one of the most famous people that you share a birthday with. Oh, that's my good buddy Abraham Lincoln, man. He shares a birthday with me. Oh, yeah. Honestly, I'm still. I'm still mad at my mother because she thought about naming me Lincoln. I for February 12th, I would have loved to be called Lincoln Frazier, but Lincoln Frazier.

1:05:02That would have been a good one, right? That's what my wife wanted to name our son. How crazy is that we went with Bodie Bell, bell being my dad's middle name. Bodie Bell Kirchian, but Lincoln Kirchian was on the list. So both Mama Frazier and Mama Kirchian over here pass on the Lincoln name. Crazy. Crazy. It's a good time. Lincoln Frazier averages 30 in the NBA. He scores 30 touchdowns a year and he's five under career homers. Lincoln Frazier, are you kidding me? Yeah, I would have been fantastic, but we got Tim and Todd or two most boring names you'll ever see in your life. Absolutely boring. Boring is all can be your name's Todd. Oh, yeah. How you doing? Jesus. What are you going to do? All right. Well, Todd, thank you so much for joining us today. You said it earlier, sports is the greatest thing in the world because it brings out the best

1:06:03in us and it gives us a chuckle once in a while at a time where we can all use one. Agreed? Agreed. Agreed, man. And I appreciate you guys having me on here. We don't say it enough, but I love you both and thank you for all you do. It's good stuff. Let's go. Let's go. We love you, Todd. Thanks for joining us. Is this a great game or what? Todd Frazier. Woo-hoo. Let's go. Sometimes a road of life goes a little off road. And the 2026 Nissan Rogue is ready for anything the day brings. With all-wheel drive and five different drive modes, it's designed for adventure, with room for the whole family. And since the 2026 Rogue has Google built in and a 12.3-inch display, you can just pick a destination, punch up a soundtrack, and take off.

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