What Americans should see beyond the midterm headlines

0:00The gas prices ease as some states suspend fuel taxes, national average dips. Reads of the NBC affiliate headline out of San Antonio. President Trump told reporters that G7 leaders have agreed to release 100 million barrels of oil and diesel fuel on the world market. How will energy prices impact the midterms? Dill Wilber and Bruce Robertson discussed the big picture and why Americans must look beyond the headlines. And then a larger story is unfolded in China-US relations. Over the past 20 months, the United States has assembled something it has not had since the Cold War. A comprehensive strategy to contain a peer rival running across nearly every instrument of national power. Nate Kaine presents a thesis you won't hear anywhere else. Trump's China strategy and the tightening grip on Beijing.

1:01It's all next on Viewpoint this Sunday. It is time to put away the bias, the lies and deceit and bring forth real talk from real people about real news, providing the out loud truth and capturing the essence of a new generation all in a fast-paced hour. This is Viewpoint this Sunday. Welcome to the Weekend News Magazine. Viewpoint this Sunday. It is Malcolm out loud here and welcome to the broadcast my fellow Americans and tell you what, elections coming quick now. It is right here, right here about it and we're going to talk about the midterms right up front here and talk about also the factor of Iran, how that affects factors into some

2:05of this as well. A whole big program today, friends. Huge program, a lot of good information here. Let me start bring on two really terrific gentlemen here. Dell Wilbur is here. He's a former CIA, a Department of Defense Intelligence and Counterterrorism Officer. He served overseas throughout the world and Eastern Western Europe, Middle East, etc. Bruce Robertson is here. He's a 40-year career veteran in economics, finance, political science. Bruce is really become a go-to here for a lot of reasons. He's got a lot of wealth of knowledge here. He's the host of Unleashed, the political news hour. He can hear his own show, plays on Thursdays at 7 p.m. Eastern time. I love this Unleashed, the political news hour. That 7 p.m. is a must listen to broadcast and 8 p.m. is going to be the national security hour. These are great, great programs. Two now, the other garbage and listen to those for sure here. At 6, by the way, is the truth be told with Booker Scott does a fantastic job as well.

3:10Some great programs, great line up here on the dial here. Gentlemen, on the midterms now, the Guardian, which is always a very... It doesn't matter what media source you go to. They're all going to be pretty well lock-in steps. This one has to be the Guardian. I want to point out, because there's some very interesting things in here. Trump doesn't rule out to clear and state of emergency before midterm elections. This is the context of an interview he had with Time Magazine. What do you know about Trump? He's not afraid to go into the Lions den ever. He does it, but then he calls him out and gets typically... Trump fashion here. But so they say here, Trump deflected responsibility for mislead in Americans about the length of the Iran War. Dismissed low ratings as fake numbers and refused to rule out the possibility of declaring a state of emergency before the midterms. And a wide, ranger interview with Time Magazine.

4:11So, Dale, let me start with you on this here. When confronted with questions about the length of the Iran War, the US President blamed the media for reporting his remarks in which he said the conflict was projected to last four to five weeks in March. And those were his words. He was saying that at the time, because he's so outspoken in his inner thoughts that he sometimes puts things out there that, you know, obviously things change. And they did, in that particular case, at the end of March, Trump had told Americans he planned to wind down the Iran War the next two or three weeks in May. And assisted that peace deal with Iran was nearly finalized. The US President said that he could have ended the Iran conflict whenever, but chose to extend it because I wanted to go further. Dale, in all the context of that, this is a tricky thing with the Iran War and how it's going to affect the midterms. What's your take on what I say there? Well, I'll add to it, I've used an old army quote, you know, the enemy has a vote in that too. And, you know, I think that all projections were that it would be a quick fix and we would

5:18be out of there. But unfortunately things change on the ground. I also, and I'll be the first to admit, I mean, I supported Trump's mission in this. I think he made the right call. It was something that's 47 years too late. But I disagreed with the cessation of hostilities or whatever you want to call it. So ceasefire that happened and they went into negotiations with Iran because, you know, I've been fighting against Iran for well for the last 47 years and they are not to be trusted and negotiations with them are always one sided and that's in favor of Iran. They never have any intention to ever abide by any kind of an agreement. When you look at it ideologically and philosophically, they are believed that they're on a mission from God and no one is going to, they're not going to give up their orders from, you

6:19know, the Lord Almighty to change the world and change the Middle East and that just because they got into a scrap with the United States. They're going to continue doing what they've been doing for the last 47 years until they're completely and utterly destroyed. The IRGC has to go, the Rackery, Jean has to go and, you know, that will present its own set of problems after they leave because, you know, we're going to have a, you know, obviously I think in the surgeons to develop, but not one that we have not dealt with before nor that we learn lessons from in dealing with that insurgency. So, you know, I think it's something that we're just going to have to bite the bullet at except and as far as the length of this war, it's still, it's been only six months for crying out loud, you know, it's six or seven months, whatever, or it's not something that's going to go on forever like we've been involved in Iraq and Afghanistan in the past.

7:20So yeah, yeah. And he ran against those endless forces, no doubt about it. What you say there is accurate. The one thing is when you mention the Iranians, Dale, and you mentioned God, I just want to say we're not really talking about the God that we know in Christianity. We're talking about Allah here, right? Correct. Yeah. You know, it's a there, they're God. They're God, right? Which is a, which is a small G, by the way, and sorry, bud, but that's the way I got to call it. Yeah, right? Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. So I just think that's important to say Bruce, if you agree with what Dale puts out there with this errant thing, you know, there was, there was a fair amount of, for a bit of word, carnage with every time the president would go to the microphone and say, we got a deal. I have a deal. A deal is common. They're on the verge of a deal. Where's the deal? The ceasefire where their ceasefire, like he said, he thinks that was a mistake. I had my concerns with that very much as well.

8:22You either do what you got to do or you don't. You get in, get it done, get the hell out. But the fact that he was still, these people don't do a deal. They don't, they don't even know what, they don't even know how to spell the word, Bruce. What do you say to that? I think, you know, I think Dale is correct in that little slice of commentary where he said that, you know, you don't know, you don't negotiate with Islamists. You don't negotiate with terrorists. You don't negotiate with people who have sought to do us harm for 50 years. So, you know, the crusades never ended in the Middle East. They just took on a different form. And you know, we have a thousand years of experience globally with Islamists. You know, we've been fighting them forever. Anybody who reads a Quran, if they read it correctly, know that their goal is conquest all over the world. And subjugating everybody else, including Christians and Jews and any other people, they even go after the Buddhists, you know, when they blew up the Buddhist statues.

9:25And I think that was in either Pakistan or Afghanistan. Bruce, and yet, and yet, hold on, Bruce, and yet, and yet, the political class get up there on the microphone for years and decades and say it was a religion of peace. Everything was cool in the neighborhood. Don't worry about it. Yeah, well, you know, that's the underlying red-green alliance that we're seeing come to ahead here, too. I think, you know, the, here's the thing. The Islamists have figured out, okay, they got our code. They figured out that they could use socialism as a Trojan horse to push their agenda all over the world. And so now they don't need to really attack with the sword as much. They can attack through political means. And they're doing it all over Europe. They're doing it in the United States as well. They're using socialism as a Trojan horse. So our appeasement monkeys on the left have, you know, taken that stance that they can

10:29use the Islamists to gain power and revolution against capitalism. So the two of them think that the other one is the useless, the useful idiot, right? Yeah, yeah, you're spot on. You're so, so what's going to happen is there with, you know, if it ever comes to a head, they're going to fight it out, but, you know, I don't think the left is going to win honestly. No, no, not a chance, not a chance. Yeah, no, you're right. It's the enemy of your enemy and so on and so forth. Now with all of this and Iran will come back to that in a moment. Let's talk about the election itself here in that same guardian piece that Trump said their fake numbers. Now, Trump is not buying the polls at all. And of course, we've talked enough about that Bruce. Let me stay with you moment to ask you this year. He said, Trump says I would beat anybody running today by 20 points. Your numbers that you have are fake. The pollsters are corrupt. They're almost as corrupt as the writers. Trump says, see, I'm doing very well. Think I am. Look, we have the strongest economy, approximately, but then they come back and say, approximately

11:3374% of Americans told AP Nork that the economy was leaning poorly. Another 65% of survey respondents said they blame Trump's policies for higher cost. So with all of this, how does that factor in Bruce and your estimation to the midterm elections? Does Trump have a point here with any of this or is everything set for massive failure here? Well, that's a great question. And deeply embedded in South Florida politics as well. And I have to tell you, a national politics as well. I know a lot of people in the administration, I know have a lot of friends with Trump. He's right in large part, but in any competitive situation, winning requires two things. First of all, we don't have the media and we don't have the pollsters on our side. So that's a slight handicap, right? Because you can't get the message out without media and polls that people can rely on.

12:33The polls are completely unreliable. I know a pollster who used to gloat that he used to manipulate the data to make it lean left all the time. Wow, wow, all right. I mean, he was verbal. You know, we had a couple of drinks and we sat down and he told me that he was laughing about it. Okay. So in any winning situation, in any competitive situation, you have to have the ability to win and the will to win. And I think that the MAGA Trump supporting crowd has consistently shown the ability to win, especially at the ballot box. So the midterms come down to our will to win. And do they have the will? I think they do. I think they do. I think they're getting tossed around a little bit by conflicting media stories and you know, to the extent that MAGA is, you know, a lot of the MAGA crowd is over 60. You know, they watch Fox News and all the other news channels. I don't watch any news. You know, because it's unreliable.

13:34It's all unreliable. Right. It's all spin. All right. So with this economy, are people going to be able to read through the tea leaves here enough to see big picture? Because you got big picture over here. And then you got, let's face it, the daily grip you're talking about here right now, triple labor purge just here on a Friday of this week. You have the national average $4.39 a gallon. Diesel is $6.37. These are pretty bracket numbers here. And news 4 cent out of San Antonio, NBC affiliate gas prices ease as some states suspend fuel taxes, national average dips. I mean, it's trying to do a lot of things. You have to get the price on the control, but it's out of whack. Are Americans able to read through all of that? And what's your prediction coming to the midterm still? Well, I certainly hope so because you know, as far as I'm concerned, you know, the high gas prices, you know, they're a pain in the neck. They hitch in the wallet, but it's temporary. You know, that's the thing that people need to understand. This is temporary.

14:34It is not going to last. I would certainly expect the gas prices to fall precipitously in the near future. You know, one thing I'd like to mention is, is I had a conversation a week ago with a young lady from New York who she attended a Democrat Socialist of America recruitment meeting in New York. And she did it out of curiosity. She's actually, she's a Jewish woman. And she went to that meeting and she secretly filmed it. And it was unbelievable that what these people, number one, one of the hosts of the gathering, flat out stated that we are a Marxist organization. Wow. Those were his words. And it is all, it's on tape. And one of the comments that they, that that she repeated it and that was on the film on that is they are going to to attack, attack, attack everything that they see as a potential

15:41weakness on our side. And so we have to be prepared for that because that's what's coming. And I mean, it's been happening all along, but I think this next 30 days we're going to see, I think we're going to see disruptions of that. I think that they're going to pull out all the stops that they can to try to, you know, affect the outcome of the midterm election of that. And so it's, you know, it's something that we have to prepare for and we have to be able to, to marshal our forces to, to fight back against them and encounter their efforts. Yeah. There's this point that Guardian pulls up, tell that says that he doesn't roll out to clear state of emergency people midterm elections. And you don't, what is your sense of that statement? Do you read anything into it? No, I, you know, they, everything that they, that the, the quote unquote mainstream media can do to, to try to project that image of Trump as a dictator, as a strong man, whatever.

16:46I mean, you know, they've been calling him that now for, you know, since he took office, you know, they're going to keep throwing that stuff out. It's like, how's he going to say and go? You throw it if it sticks to the wall. I mean, that's, that's what they're trying to do is just, just make it look like, you know, Trump's unhinged and he's, he's going to do drastic measures in that that impact our social liberties, our freedoms and that. It's all a bunch of garbage, okay? Now the one thing that could impact the election, obviously would be if we had some coordinated terrorist attacks in the country, probably, you know, most likely, um, um, uh, influenced by Iran, but the problem with that is that could very much backfire because the people that, uh, if there are terrorist attacks at, the people could say, hey, we don't need to go back to the weakness of that that we had under the previous, uh, administration of Biden and Obama before him. We need to have someone who's going to protect this country. So, uh, so I don't know. I think, you know, we need to just be prepared for whatever they throw at us because they're

17:50going to try to stick things to the wall. Yeah, that's an interesting point to bring up, tell. And, uh, if you're, you're seen out there, uh, globally, there have been a lot of, uh, isolated, but, uh, that we know of, but terrorist, terrorist activity, there's been a pretty good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, happy in here in the past weeks and, and months, uh, and we're, we're, luckily, uh, the good guys are capturing the bad guys, Dale. You see that before it even happens. You see the good guys are, and that's, I don't know how long that lasts, but you've been noticing that, haven't you? Well, because we've got an administration now that is focused on protecting America. You know, uh, we've got a, a secretary of war who, uh, I just watched his, uh, his recent speech. And, uh, when he said, no, you know, no, uh, fatties, no trannies, no weirdos, no beardos, no, no weak, you know, we're not, we're not the department of weak anymore. We're the, are the department of woke. And, uh, you know, he's, he's re reestablishing that warrior ethos that, uh, uh, and that's why

18:55you're seeing, uh, the successes, uh, it's because we're back, we're back on the offensive and that's where we should be. Yeah, yeah, very interesting. I, the headlines I've seen from that speech were that were the opposite of what you just said. Uh, but again, that's what you get with the media. That is exactly what you get. Uh, you just can't buy into any of it. That's why Bruce said he said, I don't pay to, and that's a lot of people on the network have told me that they don't watch any of the news anymore. They've tuned it all out. Bruce, uh, the, um, so the other thing here is, uh, with, with the economy and the, the polls or what they are, I'd never really buy into the polls specifically. And they've got some of these other cats up top, even in Texas, as you see, some of these races, uh, a couple of percentage points of what have you. Uh, it's all going to come down to what happens at that midterm election. Um, but, uh, it sounds like both of you guys are hopeful. Uh, we don't really know, do we until we get to that night, that evening and the next day to see what happened. But, uh, you're, you're, are you feeling any, you feeling a blue tsunami or are you feeling

19:57the, the red wave can push back the tsunami? I think the blue tsunami is, uh, really the swirl of blue tidie bowl going down to toilet. Um, but, but that's a hell of a visual. I'll tell you. But truthfully, truthfully, you know, it's a binary choice that America has. Either go back to the old failed policies of 21% inflation cumulative under Biden. Do you know, nobody remembers this stuff though, Bruce? They have short memories, man. They're complaining about high prices. They don't understand what cumulative inflation is cumulative means the prices go up and they never come down. And then any other future inflation, however small it is, adds to the former high prices. That's cumulative. It accumulates. So, you know, Biden had 21% inflation, 21.4% cumulative inflation. Yeah, when he left office, it was 3% marginal, but marginal inflation and cumulative inflation are two different things. People don't understand economics.

20:57That's a problem. And you're an economic guy. So you surely know it. Uh, yeah, yeah. I know. And now Trump wants oil at around 60 bucks at barrel. That's going to be two bucks a gallon gas. I know. It'd be credible. Yeah. Can he do it before the midterm, though? If we just vote to give him the power to unleash him and let him go, that's where we're going to be. Yeah. Otherwise, we're going to be paying five, six bucks a gallon. I, you have to hope Americans can see through what you just said. You have to hope and pray because if not, there's going to be a hit to all of us. Listen, you had a very interesting piece in your show about Cuba. I wanted to touch on with you in Delamomit here. Why Cuba is back at the center of America's strategic focus. This past week in the news, Trump speaking before the United Nations General Assembly on Marco Rubio and various interviews, speeches have mentioned Cuba as a DNA failed state. And it is. It was also reported last month that an internal army memo was circulated. That sought to assess the availability and capacity of military police medical teams

22:00and logistic units for possible future use under the Southern command with the next 1920 days. You know, Bruce, obviously we were hoping that he wouldn't touch that before the election one more hot spot, man. But he does have to send the crosshairs, don't they? They do have it in the crosshairs for something probably after November, huh? Well, yeah, I think, I think the next focus is Cuba after Venezuela. I said, I've said that before as soon as Maduro fell, I said, he's going to go after Cuba next now. What the timing of that is, we don't know. Of course, he's not going to tell us because it's confidential. But, you know, they have a, they have a government there that jails and kills their own people just like Iran did. They have just like Venezuela did. They have a regime capable of doing that. And it's not a functional government. It's not a functional country. If you took a look at what the rations are for food and Cuba, the Cuban people, it's just pathetic. I've been to that island five times on medical missions.

23:02I have to tell you, the Cuban people have a great, a spree decor and they're wonderful people, but they're just, they're suppressed and under the boot of that communist world. Totally great. Totally agree with that, man. Cuban people are beautiful people. There's no doubt about it. No, and same thing with Venezuela's for that. I got a lot of friends in Venezuela and some of the best people about it. It's the corruption of those dictators. They get in office. What does your take tell on Cuba? The Bruce Gunn interesting piece and show you did on it. Are you a supporter of that mission? And do you think that that is in the cross years on the latter part of the administration here? Oh, absolutely. And one thing that I think probably a lot of Americans aren't aware of is the Chinese influence in the Caribbean. And you know, what China has been doing with their belt and road initiative or whatever, I can't think that's the name of it. But they have been infiltrating a lot of these little island Caribbean island nations. And they've been gaining influence on them.

24:04One of the things that people don't know about is they've been using passports from these island nations because it's a whole lot easier for Chinese intelligence agents to get into the United States using a passport from St. Kiss and Nevis that it is using their Chinese passport because they're going to have much more scrutiny. And that's one of the things that Chinese have been doing is to try to gain influence in our hemisphere. And I think Cuba is absolutely the focal point of the Trump administration to turn back the clock, so to speak, on what China has been doing for quite some time now in the Caribbean. And I think once Cuba goes, a lot of these little small island nations and that are going to revert back to the West and cast off the Chinese influence that they've been under for some time now. That's a great analysis.

25:04And it appears to be quite accurate as well as we're seeing countries in Central America and all and do exactly what you were saying there as well. And by the way, that is a perfect segue to tell you that not only China's influence in Cuba and Venezuela, but the Panama Canal. Let's not forget that. That was one of the very first things that Marco Rubio did in the administration, second part here. And there were a lot of strategic reasons, even though the media was calling them out for other reasons. And I'll tell you why this is fascinating. Okay, so we're going to connect the dots on a lot of what Dale just laid out there as well with it with a brilliant, I'm telling you, the most interesting analysis you've ever heard about China is coming up on the second part of the program here. Trump's China strategy and the tightening grip on Beijing. This is a must, must here. You're going to want to hear this and you're going to want to know about this and you're going to want to share this information. It is the most significant piece I've seen on this storyline about China.

26:06And I say that not to be smart because it is a fact. I know because I edited the piece very, very distinctly here coming through every aspect of it. And Nate came, lays it out chapter in verse on what's transpired here. So listen, big, big thank you here to Dale Wilbur and Bruce Robertson. And you can go up to authors and hosts on the menu at americrawloud.news. Put your mouse up here and just go look for our for Robertson. Again, Bruce Robertson and Dale Wilbur, W.4. It's all apagogical. And go to their pages and see the stuff they're doing the books and the commentary, the connection points, the articles, the shows. That's just all kinds of good stuff, dear friends. That's how you get there quickly to go check these gentlemen out here. Okay, we'll take a pause right here, my fellow Americans. And do visit us back at americrawloud.news and help us share the outlaw truth. That is what I need you all to do out there.

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31:17I don't really see anything out there to the degree that identifies much of that progress and connects it in such a way to understand the strategy. That's exactly what we'll do next here. Let's bring on Nate Kane is here and Nate is a military veteran. He's an expert in cyber security and FBI whistleblower, which really gives you a good sense and grasp of where Nate is coming from. He does a lot of great stuff out there, but he is the host of Unleashed, the Political News, our every Tuesday, 7pm. He has got, I think, just an electrifying piece. I guess I could call it a thesis. Could call it a lot of things, but it is really, really good. And yet is live Sunday afternoon, late Sunday afternoon. So late today, in the day, you'll be able to get it and read it on the news platform. It's entitled Trump's China Strategy and the Titan and Grip on Beijing.

32:23So that alone, Nate, to me, is kind of a head turner to me because it makes you think, because nobody's really thinking about a Titan and Grip on Beijing in the way that you identify here. There's just so much that's not really being identified. What was the driving force in this thing to bring this thing to the light of day? Well, of course, you had the state visit by Xi Jinping to the White House. I think it was just this last week. And there was some things that were going on there that I think, you know, the media has their narrative that they're going to push. And unfortunately, it's not always, they're not always pushing things in the best interest of the American people. They're trying to sell papers and they have a specific audience that they're targeting. And so there's a lot of criticism of Trump of the different things that he's doing when it comes to trade and in the tariffs and all of that.

33:26But when you look, you take a step back from any one thing that Trump does and you try to look at it from the perspective of the whole. In other words, all of the things that he has done in relationship to how we interact with China. You see a very different picture than what you would pick up by just looking at one action. And a perfect example of that was it was a few weeks back. I think that Trump made a concession to offer to China the purchase of some AI chips from a company that's based here in the US. And that's, that was a, it was a real shocker to a lot of people who have been very hawkish on China. And they're like, why would he do that? And, you know, that, that goes against everything that, you know, that they hear him saying. But it's like almost like these people have never read Trump's book, The Art of the Deal. Because when you look at the things that he does through that perspective, you realize

34:30that what Trump is doing and everything that he does is he is creating leverage to give him a better negotiating standpoint. Well, not only did they not read the book, The Art of the Deal, Nate, but they also didn't read Sun the Zoo, by the way. They missed that one as well. Which is a very good point. Which is one I bring up all the time. I mean, you see the reference point. Oh my God. He's, he's partnered with dictators and world criminals and all of this. And you people just don't get it. You just don't get it. All right. That's what I thought was interesting. And I'm going to say to you this, I don't know if you agree with this, but if, let's say we take the last 40, 45, 40, 45 years back, okay. Under both Republican administrations and Democrat administrations, it's safe to say in your opinion that more has been done to re-correct the path of China, redirect some

35:30of these things in the past, this administration and the first administration. Then I would say to you then very clear from what we're going to talk about here, but then within the last 45 years, is that an accurate statement or is that overstated? No, I think that is absolutely true. And I think the differences is I think there has been a lot of things that have been done to change the world order in previous administrations. And that's really the key behind it is that there's almost like a collectivism that has gone on with the world economic forum and many of these globalist groups. And Trump is clearly not that. He is a nationalist. He believes that at the end of the day as the president of the United States, his responsibility is not to the world, it is to the United States and protecting the United States interests. And that is a very different view than what we have seen with presidents really going

36:35back probably to Reagan. Yeah, a long time, a long time. Left and right, you're so right, so right. The fact I always reference it Nate as in my world, as bookends, I really do mean a number 40 Ronald Reagan and 45 and now 47 of course, Trump. I look at those as bookends and there's a lot of crap in between those two. Well, yeah. And this is not a, it's really a pendulum because we've had moments where the United States was more globalist even before that. They didn't call it globalism at that time, but I mean, look at the League of Nations and the nonsense that that created and got us into. And I think, so there's this pendulum that goes back and forth and we are clearly right now in a place of Trump trying to correct the direction of where our country has been headed. Yeah, so well said, man, so well said.

37:35Yeah, there's a lot to this. Now you say here in this piece, most coverage of the summit treated it as a trade negotiation of a tariff, soybeans and chips, which misses the largest story over the past 20 months in the United States has assembled something that has not seen since the Cold War, a comprehensive strategy to contain a peer rival running across nearly every instrument of national power. And it gets into a lot of people started, referenced it as the Dunroh doctrine, speaking about let's start there in this particular hemisphere. I mean, nobody, and I mean nobody had anywhere near the whatever word you want to put in now, I'll call it courage to keep this as ladies and gentlemen, but you can put a lot of words in there to do what happened in Venezuela with Maduro. I mean, that took Bryce Knuckles to be able to pull that one off and executed at that level.

38:36And you just won't find the president on the left to right be able to pull that off. And now he sits in a jail here in the United States, which is a remarkable achievement. Any one of these things, Nate, would have been a remarkable achievement. And yet this president has strung up so many now. As we dive into the hemisphere here, you say there, you call it six holdouts. Six outcomes and you identify Mexico, Colombia, Venezuela, Brazil, Canada, Cuba. They've all been in the headlines, the national storylines misreported, misappropriated from the headlines from the national media. Nobody comes anywhere close to what you've identified here. So let's take, have you explained briefly, but do a summary on this and explain what you mean six holdout, six outcomes, you know, one to the, and what what people should know. Well, it's important to realize it and I just want to kind of preface it with this from the very get go of this second term, or some would call his third term, you know, of Trump.

39:42What's interesting is the very first action that Trump did was he had our Secretary of State go to Panama and kick the Chinese out of Panama. Yeah. That was the very first action of our Secretary of State. And I think it was very telling as to what the agenda that Trump was going to have in this administration, which was to secure the Western hemisphere for the United States. Well, hold on, it was very telling to you because you're an intellect of brilliant perspective on this thing, but it was not evident to a lot of people that if you read those headlines back there, they were pretty outrageous state, right? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, people were, you know, they, they, again, people tend to look at what Trump says, which can be very bombastic, you know, to say the least. They will look at what he says and they will judge him without looking at what the actions are, what the outcomes are.

40:42And that's a big mistake, I think. It's a flaw in the media. They don't tend to look at the historical relationship between, you know, things like the United States and Panama and the fact that we actually built the Panama Canal and that that we owned it. And, you know, and of course, it was turned over to the Panamanians for better or worse. And the fact that we would allow, you know, that the United States would allow the Chinese to control the single most important waterway, you know, transit on the, in the Western hemisphere is, is asinine. And the fact that we would allow, because here's what, what it means, it means that not just, it's not just a matter of shipping, right? It's a matter of national security because when, when we move our naval fleet from one side from one ocean to the other, we go through the Panama Canal.

41:46Do we really want an adversary of the United States having listening devices and, you know, and surveillance systems in the port that is the one choke point, you know, that would indicate what we're doing. Absolutely not. Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was very telling to, to, to us to you and I and, and maybe a few others, but for the vast majority, they, they missed that entirely. And we're very, very critical about the president's starting to fight about the Panama Canal. And of course, Trump, as you say, he identified the, the screwiness of what we did there and given it back, I think it was for a dollar or something. I don't know whatever it was. It was ridiculous. And, and I, you know, I just, I remember when that was done, Nate, I, I knew it was wrong. I had to pit in my stomach with it to think, what the hell would they be doing that for? After all the blood, sweat and investment that America had in that waterway, which, which

42:52was brilliant and critical at the time and still is. Now, you, you have here. So coming through here, you, you map out the strategy across five tiers. And let me identify these five tiers. You say denying China critical inputs minerals, lithium chips, biotech and medicine, control of the physical choke, choke points of the global economy, ceilings, shipyards, ports, the Panama Canal in Greenland, winning the frontier technology, space, artificial intelligence, the energy to power them, harbing the home system, visas, research, security, citizenship, trade enforcement, fentanyl, secure in the Western hemisphere, which we just chatted on, closing it to Beijing, one capital at a time with retaliation for those who resist. Now, I could ask you here, Xi Jinping is no dummy. He sees all this happening. He knows, and you know, again, correct me on this, Nate, but if I understand this correctly, the Chinese respect more in strength.

43:56And that just like others, I mean, it's more strength, they respect than weakness or timidness. And so Xi Jinping has seen all these steps. He's seen everything Trump has been doing from afar. And on so many levels, which you point out in this brilliant essay here and yet, you know, it's not identified in the national media at all. And so it's safe to say that Trump has gotten really very limited credit for the strength and the value he has bought against the growth and the testament of the danger of China, which we've created the monster, right, Nate? I mean, we created that. Yeah, absolutely. Right. China would still be in the dark ages if it hadn't been for the United States essentially bringing them into the rest of the world order through, you know, through loosening of trade restrictions and things like that.

44:56The fact is, is that at some point, China realized that the communist economic system that they had was not working. They saw what happened in Russia and or the USSR. And so they decided to pivot and they have a they still have a social system. But they are utilizing our own weaknesses against us. And that's really what it boils down to. They realized that that they could play games with trade in order to weaken us. And the thing that I think a lot of people don't realize is that China is still a communist country. They still have a internationalist goal of dominating. It's just not through war in through a conventional war in the way that we think of. It is through trade, it is through propaganda. It is, I mean, all the things that China has done, some of the examples that I put in the

45:57paper where I talk about the fentanyl and the chemicals that are the precursors to fentanyl, that China has been selling directly to the cartels in Mexico. And I know this from my work at DEA. This was something that was a major concern because these were companies that basically could claim that they, these are companies that basically China could claim that they don't have anything to do with these are just private companies. But there is no such thing as a private company or private company in a communist nation. So this is directed by state policy. Yeah, you know, China has been able to, what does make it unique with what you've said and other communist historical looking at others? They've been able to weave Nate again as a communist nation and a totalitarian, I mean, they're very difficult people.

46:58I mean, they go, they're not afraid to take out anybody that crosses them in their country. We've seen that so many times. They've combined using our capitalism and using their communism in a very, very unique way to be able to foster and build some manufacturing and plants and all this other. So it's kind of a new world order what they've done. Is that accurate? Yeah. And in fact, there's something that I point out in the paper that's kind of an interesting point in the way that they will flood the market with cheap made product in order to bankrupt the competitor. So this has been something that China has done with steel. It's why US Steel, which of course used to be a very powerful industry in the United States and has been weakened significantly by the Chinese dumping cheap steel into our market. And so they know that we are a, you know, that we have a free market economy or at least

48:02somewhat. We do have some government control over some of the markets, but in the end, ultimately, we are impacted by the markets. And so if all of a sudden there is a flood of, you know, cheap goods, it is going to, it's going to basically damage those industries that are, you know, born out of the United States. They've known this. They've used that. They've also used things like our free speech against us where they've funded and encouraged dissident behavior in our country, knowing that we won't do anything about it because we believe in free speech. If we tried that the other way around, and I'm certain that we do, the problem is is that in China, if you speak out against the government, they will arrest you and throw you in prison and maybe even kill you. Yeah. Isn't it safe to say that that China has been 10 steps ahead of us, both on the left and on the right, Democrat and Republican administrations for the last four decades plus,

49:05that they have been 10 steps ahead of us on so many levels and so many ways to be able to make the progress that they've had around the world. And now the cards have been flipped and Trump has now 10 steps ahead of what they've been doing. Is that accurate? Yeah. Yes and no. I mean, I think there's a, I remember, gosh, I want to say it was in the year 2000. I was working for DISA, Defense Information Systems Agency and I was brought into a briefing at that time to go over the China threat. So I mean, this was, you know, more than 20 years ago and they were talking about at that time, documents that had been uncovered that indicated a, you know, a long term, I think it was like a 20 year plan that China had to dominate the US. And so they are long planners and that is, you know, the United States, I think we would be that way too, except our political system doesn't allow it.

50:07Doesn't allow it. And that is the thing. We change administrations and we go through them, you know, every, every two years for our members of Congress or for our house and, you know, in our president every four years. So we have a problem in being able to keep a consistent strategy because of that. Yeah. In a way for the American people, that's a good thing because it allows for some checks and balances. It allows for, you know, some things to kind of hold us back from disaster. But in the grand scheme and the grand chessboard of the world and geopolitics, sometimes it can be a problem because our enemies can have long term goals and plans. And then, you know, the United States may have a great way of dealing with it or we may have a great plan and strategy and then a new administration comes in and completely changes. And our adversaries, even China and others as well, they exploit what you just said.

51:11They are. Oh, that's what's going on in Iran right now. Iran, why have they made a deal because they're waiting till this next election to see if it changes anything? Yeah, absolutely. And by the way, do you think China, who do you think they want to win the midterm elections here? They don't just know about it. They want the Democrats because the Democrats are socialists now. They align with them ideologically. And socialists, it's not just about socialism in America or socialism in China. nationalism is an internationalist movement. It is absolutely an expansionist doctrine. It doesn't believe in borders. It does not believe in national sovereignty. It believes in the word international actually came from communists. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And that's why we feel the tightness and all these elements of socialism, of communism, of the Islamists and all these things. All these roads are convergent at once.

52:16And it's a very interesting, odd, little bit weird historical moment of time. And I've been saying it for some years. And it should be pretty apparent to everybody about now, even people who aren't paying attention, should understand these are not normal times. These are very unusual historical times. And we're kind of blessed to be alive in many ways. I tell you all the time out there. So now, all right, so let me tell you this. There's so much to this when we lay out the strategies and Nate gets into, again, China control the materials inside America's weapons. I mean, think about how stupid we are in the... I mean, we're stupid, not the American people specifically, but talking about the people that are in power and the people who make these decisions. And of course, we elect them so that is a reflection on us. But why would we have any country controlling the materials inside our weapons?

53:16That's the definition of insanity. Just like the big, all the antibiotics and all of the myths that are over there in China and the chips that are in Taiwan. So now we're supposed to create World War III because they have our chips and we've got to have those because... And now Trump's tried to... And again, we'll talk more about that too, Nate, because Trump has tried to re-corrected all out of that. And there are so many levers here that Trump has tried... I mean, you talk about... We're talking about a relationship here on multiple levels of our existence that he has his hands in so many things that are not being pointed out, that are not being addressed at right now. They're not. They're not. In fact, there's a lot of people that would, I guess, dismiss why the United States is involved in some of these other countries that were involved in... Why do we have bases in Japan? Why do we have bases in South Korea? Still. Now, interestingly enough, we just saw...

54:19I think it was yesterday. Trump announcing that we're pulling out the last troops out of Iraq. So there is a shifting away from Europe and I think Trump is trying to get us away from them at least. The reality is is that what is happening in the straight, the hormones, it impacts us, but it's only impacting us really because of speculators and that sort of thing. At the end of the day, we don't need the oil that comes out of the Middle East anymore in the United States. That's right, amen. But there is a shift that... I think that the Trump administration, and actually this is even going back to his first term, there has been a shift of wanting to move assets away from Europe and move them to more of a containment around China. That's why we have bases in Japan. It's why we have bases in South Korea and they will not move. Why we moved our stuff out of the Philippines is to me. That was a mistake.

55:20And I think that there's agreements that are happening now to try to restore some US presence in the Philippines because of the South China Sea. This is a... To me, a brilliant document that Nate has put together, no doubt about it. No doubt in my mind. If you ever wanted to know where all the missing pieces are and really put this all together, so this is an important... So I wanted to have Nate here today. What is really cool about this? So two points I want to make with you friends. Number one, this... Amazing thesis is one that will be live later today, Sunday, so you must go get... But not just read it yourself and sit down and pour yourself a glass of bourbon if you need to read it to get to right now. And... That's what I'm talking about. The bourbon and a stogie and... Or you need a cup of coffee, you can do that as well, whatever. But it makes you read it, but more than that, make sure you share it many times over.

56:20And it's entitled Trump's China Strategy on the Titan and Grip on Beijing because that outlines... And that's kind of a head turner when you hear it see the kind of a headline and you think, what Titan and Grip on Beijing? What are we talking about exactly? And then come see what that is. Now, Nate will be on Project Out Loud with me later this week. So, probably we'll be released at the very end of the week and it will be an amazing talk. It will be on for the whole hour with me and it will be on the video podcast and it will be on talk radio as well. But it will be the whole extensive hour. I want to get them on here today to at least grease the wheels here and let you all know about it. So, Nate, a great job on this, first of all. You just did amazing work and we'll reconvene later in the week and bring this forward. Is that sound good? That sounds great. So, that's Nate Kane and I just say I have so much respect for the work he does and just as a person you hear him talk and he's just so deliberate with his, the words he chooses and the...

57:23He's not one of these crazy extremists and these people that just want to get, you know what I'm talking about out there, there's plenty of them. But he really gets into it in a solid way and presents real evidence, not just talking to talk. So, anyways, you can go up to the menu under Authors and Host and see AIN and look for Nate and connect there and all of his stuff is there and shows and conversations and just just a bring-in to bring guy. And anyways, friends, that's this was really a special thing for me to bring this document forward and really help Nate get an out there on China and just thought it was so well done. Now, that is a wrap here. A whole lot more going on back at America out loud.News. Of course, help us share the out loud truth. Lots happening. We're going to be raising the bar again in just later this year here as we now are in the fourth quarter, if you can believe that or not. And a lot of exciting things happening on the network is we prepare for 2027. No matter what happens on the midterms, we will always be fighting forward on the front

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