Who Said It Better: Pete Hegseth or Samuel L. Jackson?

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Hey, folks, it is Friday, April 17th, and who said it better?

Pete Hexeth or Samuel L. Jackson?

Welcome to the most fun episode of Amy and TJ,

you will ever, ever hear.

Robes, you cannot make this stuff up.

Pete Hexeth is saying a prayer,

and he's actually just quoting Pope Fiction.

Yeah, you have been very excited about this episode.

I am because this, I guess, is a story that tickled you,

is the best way to put it.

It's a wild thing you're using.

Robes, are you, this is wildly amusing.

Are you kidding me?

Pete Hexeth got up in front of a crowd and said,

this is a prayer that has been recited by our soldiers,

by our warriors out there, and he quotes Samuel L. Jackson.

Let me ask you this, is it possible that soldiers,

this search and rescue, these combat mission teams,

maybe they use this prayer because they love Pope Fiction,

and they think it's fun to have this maybe mix of some parts,

Bibles, some parts Hollywood, I don't know.

Maybe that is something that they pray to.

So, that makes perfect sense to me.

It just wasn't billed that way,

and it makes it look like he was unaware.

Is that all right?

This is just a bad look.

It's a bad look because he basically said

it was biblical in nature.

He referenced Ezekiel, 25, 7, 2, I believe,

and didn't say also depicted in Paul Fiction.

He could have had some fun with it.

He could have leaned into this prayer

that the men and women in the armed services use

because they love Pope Fiction,

and they love a little Bible verse kind of blended.

And look, a little mashup.

That line from Samuel L. is badass.

You should use it when you're going into a fight.

It's awesome.

It really, really is.

And it was written by Quentin Tarantino or somebody,

is where the line came from.

Well, this story was, it was, obviously,

it was trending all day yesterday,

and a lot of people just wanting to attack

and to make fun of.

I didn't want to make fun of.

I don't want to poke fun,

but it still is kind of funny if he wasn't aware.

We did hear from the Pentagon.

We'll explain, but the backstory here,

yes, Pete Hegg said,

at a prayer, what do they call these prayer meetings

that they have weekly there?

He leads these prayer services, yes.

Yes, prayers serves.

At the Pentagon, he was at one this week

and recited a prayer that he said was given to him

by some of the service members who were a part

of the mission to rescue the two-downed airmen in Iran.

Now, Robes, you hear that?

I sit up in my chair.

Oh, my wow.

I want to listen to this.

These are the words they spoke to each other.

This is, it goes out on the radio

to several different pilots and crews

and different planes that I was on the edge of my seat.

And then all of a sudden,

you started listening to our Secretary of Defense

and you thought, where have I heard this before?

And I know you know your movies

and I know you love Pacifician

and I know you love some Samuel L. Jackson.

I said, wait a second.

It was clear, it was obvious.

You don't have to stop and think it wasn't just one line.

It was almost an entire speech, if you will,

that Samuel L. Jackson gave.

Before he shot a guy repeatedly.

And a lot of people will remember that scene

from Pulp Fiction.

This was the setup.

Hexet in front of a crowd, standing on the stage, audience,

listening in, said, I am going to tell you a prayer

that was given to me by C-S-A-R planner.

Now, C-S-A-R stands for combat, search, and rescue.

But he said, he said C-S-A-R, not C-S-R, right?

Yeah, I think he said C-S-A-R.

All right, so the prayer is called.

He said, Robes, C-S-A-R 2517.

And there's a reason it's called that.

Yes, he said it is based off of a Z-Keele 2517

from the Bible, which is a fairly short,

when you look and see what Pete Hexet said

versus what's actually in a Z-Keele 2517.

There's what one line maybe that is the same.

Yeah, because even in the movie, in Pulp Fiction,

this scene, a lot of people is one of the early opening scenes.

The guy that had the burger, the Kahuna burger,

the guy, that group of guys.

He took a sip of his tasty beverage to wash this down.

Yeah, that whole scene.

Sammy L. Jackson says it himself.

This reminds me of something in the Z-Keele 2517.

He actually says it.

And then he goes into this long thing.

If you don't know the Bible or know that verse, Robes,

you would assume he's reciting every single line

from the Bible verse.

If you're watching the movie, that is what it comes off as.

But, Robes, as you said, the verse is actually really short.

Yeah, it's just one line.

This is Z-Keele 2517 from the Bible.

And I will execute great vengeance upon them

with furious rebukes,

and they shall know that I am the Lord

when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.

That's it.

Very short, but Samuel L. Jackson gave a much longer version.

Now, what we're going to let you hear now

are the two versions, Robes.

We have the audio side by side.

And we're going to play them piece by piece

and let you compare.

Robes, there is no argument to be made.

There is no question.

They're not just similar.

They are almost exactly the same.

Line for line.

Nearly identical is how it's being spoken of.

So, the first one will let you hear.

You know what?

We're going to do Samuel L.

And a lot of people will immediately recognize this.

But we're going to play them for you, the clips.

You'll hear Samuel L. Jackson.

And you'll hear Pete Hexeth.

But this is Samuel L.

From Pope Fiction.

And Mr. Hexeth.

Okay, Robes, those sound familiar to you.

Just airmen was switched out.

That was it.

So, not exactly the same as what you're saying.

Okay, one word.

Okay, let's keep going here, Mr. Samuel L.

Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will

separates the weak through the valley of darkness.

Blessed is he who in the name of camaraderie and duty

shepherd the lost through the valley of darkness.

What you think, Robes?

Identical.

And that is not from the Bible.

That is from Pope Fiction.

It is not a word you've heard so far is in the Bible.

Okay, let's continue, Mr. Samuel L.

He's only halfway through it.

Mr. Hexeth?

For he is truly his brother's keeper

and the finder of lost children.

Okay, how are we doing here, Robes?

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

Okay, it's the exact thing.

And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger,

those who attempt to poison and destroy my brother.

And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger,

those who attempt to capture and destroy my brother.

And you will know my name is the Lord.

And you will know my call sign is Sandy 1.

Okay, you see the difference there.

Yes, so it's basically Samuel L.

Jackson's speech, potentially written by Quentin Tarantino

with a little sprinkle of a few words that you can find in Ezekiel in the Bible.

And all Pete Hexeth did was just switch out so that it was specific to

the search and rescue team.

Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong, it's still legit.

The words work, the message works.

And this is how they wrap it up, Robes.

Obviously at the end, Samuel L. Jackson kills a guy.

Pete Hexeth ends his a little differently.

When I lay my vengeance upon thee.

When I lay my vengeance upon thee.

And amen.

I thought there was going to be a thunderous applause or something versus a gunfire.

That would have been fun to have that echo.

Gunfire versus applause.

A movie.

How old is that movie?

30 years now?

Robes, a movie, 20, 30 years ago.

Quentin Tarantino's words are going into battle in the war in Iran.

And did we know it ahead of time?

Did they know?

Did he know he was standing on stage,

reciting words from Samuel L. Jackson and not words from the Bible?

I don't think so.

He don't.

I think he knew he was reciting a prayer that was repeated by the men and women.

Of the armed forces.

But I don't know that he recognized or realized.

It certainly didn't seem like he did.

That that prayer was based on Paul fiction, not on the Bible.

Does it matter?

Did he need to?

Does he have to?

Is it a bad look?

Is it just, well, forget about this?

Don't get me wrong, it's not the end of the world.

But it's just one of those things.

How could you not know or recognize it?

This is not a heavy criticism.

A lot of people are making fun of them.

And that's the thing.

That's the last thing Pete Hexeth.

War secretary would like to be in that position where people are making fun of him,

saying he's stupid, saying he doesn't know any better, saying he should have known better.

It's a shot at his credibility.

And it gets him right where probably it hurts the most.

Yeah, humiliation, right?

But folks, they do have a response to this.

The Pentagon did actually have a response to all the folks we're talking about.

And again, this was everywhere yesterday, but the Pentagon did put out a response.

We will let you hear it.

Word for word.

Roads, how would you describe it?

Unsurprising, typical, or it was heavy on detail.

And we understand now.

I do think it was kind of like, yeah, like, of course he knew that.

I mean, duh.

Okay, that's how it came to you.

Okay, we'll let you hear it word for word.

Also, Pete Hexet was making headlines yesterday as well.

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All right, we continue here on this Friday morning.

Amy, TJ, this is just a blast, ain't it?

Good old Quentin Tarantino, right, and prayers for the US military

that are to be used 30 years from now.

It's fairly surreal.

And I do love how you were able to kind of single outline by line,

because it's undeniable he was quoting pulp fiction.

It's complex.

Isn't that a thing?

Isn't it makes sense that maybe some service members were out there,

and they just, they like the movie.

They think it's cool, and they start using it.

And maybe some people, to this point,

don't even realize the origins of it.

Right, because the way it's written, it does sound biblical.

It's not something you would immediately question.

That doesn't sound like that came from a Zekiel 2517.

It sounds exactly like it came from an old testament scripture.

So it means it was well written.

Exactly. That's true.

I hear Tarantino is good.

What year I'm trying to confirm the year of pulp fiction was 1994.

Holy hell. How many years is that, baby?

32.

32 years ago.

32 years ago, he wrote something.

Look, Robes, we think about it for a second.

A 32 years ago, a lot of these members of the military

that are involved in this fight.

They weren't around when this movie was out there.

Maybe it's not popular among them.

Maybe they don't know.

Maybe they, somebody picked this up,

and it started being passed along through the years

to members of the military.

And folks don't even realize where it came from.

I think that's very possible.

That's entirely possible.

Because it works.

It sounds bad ass.

You will know when I lay my vent.

I mean, they should let the Samuel L.

record it.

They should just play it on all missions.

Oh my god.

That would be fun.

I think that would be fun.

The Pentagon did have something to say about this.

The way you put it, Robes, was, uh, uh, yeah.

Of course, it does kind of wreak of that tone a little bit.

Yes, here is what the Pentagon put out.

Secretary Hegseth on Wednesday shared a custom prayer

referenced as the Cesar SCAR prayer,

used by the brave war fighters of Sandy One,

who led the daylight rescue mission

of dude 44 alpha out of Iran,

which was obviously inspired by dialogue in pulp fiction.

However, both the Cesar prayer

and the dialogue in pulp fiction were reflections of the verse,

Ezekiel 2517,

as Secretary Hegseth clearly said in his remarks

at the prayer service.

Anyone saying the Secretary misquoted

Ezekiel 2517 is peddling fake news

and ignorant of reality.

I'm sorry, but I copied and pasted this

and I didn't read through it enough.

This is nuts.

Come on.

It's okay.

It's beautiful.

You think that not ours.

It's okay.

Fate, we're peddling fake news.

First, nobody's saying he misquoted.

He quoted perfectly.

Pulp fiction.

Perfect nailed it.

No qualms.

He's taking issue with something that isn't an issue

to say.

Anybody saying that it's the same thing.

This is not a big deal.

He used a quote from a movie.

They're using it.

So what?

Why do you have to make now?

This is upset.

I was in a different movie when we started it.

Because clearly, if he had always known he could laugh

and say obviously,

you know, he could have just had some fun with it.

The fact that they're getting angry

and pointing the fingers at the press.

Shoo, it touched a nerve.

We triggered him by making it seem

as though he didn't know what he was saying.

In the second you make someone who feels very powerful

and in control and in charge that they don't know

what they're doing or saying, you touch a nerve.

And that response to me says he's upset.

Instead of if he really did know it the whole time,

he could laugh with everyone and say,

I know, ain't it crazy?

You nailed it, baby.

They quoted Pulp fiction.

You nailed it.

That is it.

We can't make it a mission that maybe

I was unaware of something or that I was wrong

or that I was uninformed or you can't make it a mission.

So you put this out.

The first line, as soon as you started reading,

I'll say, wait, wait a minute.

He shared a custom prayer.

He shared a line from Pulp Fiction.

That's okay.

He shared a custom prayer.

Is he really trying to get away with saying it's custom?

Because we put Sandy one in there.

Instead of whatever Samuel L say,

Robes, come, why do this?

Yep, exactly to say face.

That's why.

Both the prayer and the dialogue in Pulp Fiction

were reflections of the verse.

No, the prayer is a reflection of the Pulp Fiction line,

which is an extension of the verse.

Robes, why do they treat us like this?

Like we're stupid.

Okay, I was having fun.

I said it was going to be fun.

And now you pissed off looking at this.

This wasn't the only thing.

There's been a lot this week.

Rose, of course, with the Pulp and Trump,

the Pulp and him being depicted as a doctor

who was playing Jesus.

Sure, okay.

Whatever, that whole thing.

But I asked you, when you came home yesterday,

you were out and about.

I was watching this stuff.

I say out and about.

Like you run the street.

You had something you had to do.

Yesterday, you had an obligation to profess.

I wish I was out and about.

Yeah, it wasn't that.

Sorry.

I mean, it sounded like you were up to something.

But you came back and I asked you,

I said, sweetheart, can you explain to me easily,

or I've topped you head?

You know what Pharisees?

You know what that means.

Who that is.

Yeah, I went back to my Catholic school days

and I said I believe that that is the group of religious leaders

who basically judged and persecuted Jesus Christ

and led to his execution.

Yes, and so you nailed it.

That was 100% right.

So the Pharisees came up

during Peaky Hexath's Pentagon briefing yesterday.

And he compared robes, the media, to the Pharisees.

And he was telling the story about him being in church

on Sunday with his family.

And the preacher was talking about Mark chapter three.

And they tell the story that Jesus went into a synagogue.

He went there to heal.

He was asking, can I do this on the Sabbath?

He was asking if he was doing things right

and to make sure he wasn't violating law

because these Pharisees had shown up

to try to catch him doing something

he wasn't supposed to do.

Right?

So this is what Peaky Hexath starts to deliver.

And we're going to have to read through it all.

So this star there, I just can't help but

but he goes through and makes a comparison

calling the media the Pharisees

which would imply

that we are keeping an eye on Jesus.

Here is what Hexath said.

As I just can't help but notice,

the endless stream of garbage,

the relentlessly negative coverage,

you cannot resist pedaling

despite the historic and important success of this effort

and the success of our troops.

Sometimes it's hard to figure out what side some of you

are actually on.

It's incredibly unpatriotic.

That's tough.

But they're always after the press for the coverage.

For being critical of the administration.

That's unpatriotic.

No, that's exactly what America is.

Unpatriotic is a tough one to label the press as.

Yes, he goes on though and says the Pharisees,

the so-called and self-appointed elites of their time,

they were there to witness to write everything down,

to report, but their hearts were hardened.

But even though they witnessed a literal miracle,

it didn't matter.

They were only there to explain away the goodness

in pursuit of their agenda.

As the passage ends, the Pharisees went out

and immediately held counsel against him.

I sat there in church and I thought our press

are just like these Pharisees.

Not all of you, not all of you,

but the legacy Trump hating press.

You're politically motivated,

animus for President Trump nearly completely blinds you

from the brilliance of our American warriors.

The Pharisees scrutinized every good act in order

to find a violation only looking for the negative.

The hardened hearts of our press are

calibrated only to impune.

I would ask you to open your eyes to the goodness,

the historic success of our troops,

the courage of this President.

The press should open its eyes to the courage

of President Trump.

Robes, the other thing was funny.

This one is not.

If this were they believe, and that's fine,

I can believe what they believe,

but Robes, he is once again,

and I don't know why this connection,

why this imagery, why they constantly want to do this.

He flat-out made a direct comparison

to the press being Pharisees,

comparing them to the Pharisees,

we try to destroy and kill Jesus.

That's what the media is.

That's what he compared us all to.

And Robes, given the week that we've had

with all this been going on health,

since Easter, really,

with the religious back and forth with the President,

this was just another one, another incident.

Well, this explains the constant behavior

that we've seen from the administration towards the press.

And if that is what their belief is,

then it makes sense all the actions

that they have taken,

including making the press

who wants to actually report from the Pentagon,

Pentagon signed a,

of basically an official oath

that no reporting would be done

without the blessing of the Pentagon,

or Pete Hegg said.

I mean, that is absurd.

That is not journalism.

So it's like they want to have people

who are state-run media only,

and then and only then would they actually be patriotic.

And the rest of you

are Pharisees,

just like the ones who tried to take down Jesus.

It's been a week, Robes.

It's been a week.

We'll update you on this one.

It was one look.

The same thing all Jackson stuff was funny.

And to me, do you even care?

I mean, I say care in that.

Are you that bothered?

If you told me he used it from Pope Fiction,

I would have said,

OK, yeah, I love that line.

And go on.

He actually could have laughed it off.

He doesn't want to be seen

as someone who doesn't know his Bible.

I think that's another thing too.

Ooh, I didn't get that.

And so for him not to know

that that wasn't a actual biblical verse

would be embarrassing to him

because he's leading prayer services.

Babe, all they had to do was look it up.

You're about to go out there and make the speech

and you didn't even look up as equal 25, 17?

He's busy.

Maybe.

You've made that's another good point, Robes.

He doesn't know the Bible.

He doesn't know the difference between a Bible

and an Oscar-winning actor or director's writing.

Samuel L. Jackson is in the middle of this.

I wonder what he thinks about it.

All right, folks.

We told you this was going to be a fun one.

We appreciate you.

As always, spending some time with us,

we do have the morning run

coming up on the feed here in just a bit

this episode before this one on the feed.

Rose, remind me.

Yeah, David.

Yeah, seeing your David arrested

the news we've been waiting for for seven months,

kept thinking it was going to come any day now

and then shockingly it dropped

last night.

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