#4820 Droning Off And Off

0:00Okay, let me ask you a few questions. Let's talk about restaurants. Would you be willing to wait for a really good restaurant a half hour, which you just need to somewhere kind of crappy, because you could get in right away? What do you think? The look on people's faces when they wait in line is like, is this, what are you going to eat or to stand quietly? Have you ever uttered the phrase, get off my lawn? No. Okay, I mean, yeah, I've said. But I didn't mean like old man like, get off my lawn. I meant more like, this is my property. So, get off my lawn. I'm not going to sugarcoat this for you. You have early onset grumpiness. What? Early onset grumpiness, EOG. You're going to begin to enjoy fewer and fewer things in your life. You'd be saying things like, who are these people? Who are those people? That's the, I mean, it's a real question. The only reason you leave the house is to see classical movies and even then you'll say, it had some good parts, but all in all it was fairly uneven. You're very young to have EOG. Your life is going to change forever.

1:00I don't know anything I can do. Normally we try meds, but you do young for them. I'm sorry. I'll notify your family. No, no, no, no, no, my sister. She didn't pick up the phone and have the time. She gives people a hard time. TVTL! Hey Johnny. Oh, hi Danny. What's wrong with Mark? He's cranky today. Ha, ha, ha, ha. All right. Let's toss the ball around. Are you away? The other networks refer to us as the Poland of broadcasting. How did these buff dudes escape my radar? I thought I knew about every single buff dude. Look at the size of that boy's head. Shh. I'm not kidding. That's like an orange on a toothpick. She's going to get the boy a complex. Well, that's a huge noggin. Remember boys. No points for second place. All right. Hello. Good morning and welcome everyone to A2's. The addition of TVTL to show that just might be too beautiful to live. I can't believe you're still on here. My name's Luke Burbank. I'm your host. And I do land. Coming to you once again from Los Angeles, California.

2:03It's like I'm walking on sunshine. Another beautiful day down here in Hollywood as we've arrived at episode 4,820 in a collector series. It's a fun begin. It's Taco Tuesday, people. Hey, cheer up. It's Taco Tuesday. I don't know what that really means in the context of this show. You know, we're just not the kind of thing we're able to actually deliver food to you, the listeners. I guess maybe sort of food for your brain. Your brain likes long meandering conversations between two buddies. Hey, speaking of kind of annoying sounds. Hey, we're the most annoying sound in the world. There is a swarm. And I use that term advisedly of Amazon delivery drones that are swarming a town in Texas. And we've got some of the video of what it looks like and sounds like when they do this. And it's really something else. Also, a Chicago Bears football player has had a huge, huge aura loss, a huge downgrade in his aura.

3:03We've got to be a real football nerd to sit through the whole thing. Because of something that he did the other day in the game when he was being taken out of the game with an injury. So we'll talk about that. Oh, and we'll talk to this guy. He's along the training co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. You know that about him. But did you know he's also a soulful rocker from New Hampshire? It's all true. He's Andrew Walsh and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend. Good morning, Luke. Remember, there are no points for second place. Who is that? I have no idea. That is a drop. I feel like if it isn't from the same video, it is spiritually from the same video or era as that. Well, yeah, he has a different voice. So it can't be the same guy. But remember that early, early viral video of the guy with the Russian accent, the English-speaking Russian, who was kind of like talking tough and how impossible is the nothing. Impossible is nothing guy. This guy feels like he's somehow in the family of impossible is nothing because he's saying no points or second place.

4:07But aside from that, I don't know. It doesn't sound like a movie to me. It sounds like I clipped from, I don't know, a viral video. I mean, it's exactly what's wrong with our political system. Yeah. That there are no points for second place. There should be some points for second place. And that's how we get into a conversation about Rudolf. I mean, like, this is the whole issue. It should not be that, you know, a thousand votes here or there means one party has all of the control. But, you know, that's maybe for my political podcast and I'm watching later than I'll be doing. Yeah. From down here in Los Angeles. Yeah, I'm down here. I came down. I don't think I even, I mentioned, I sort of alluded to this yesterday, but I didn't actually get into it too much. Sunday, I'm getting on the airplane. And I get a call from not one, but two of the producers for this CBS story that I'm down here to film. First, it's a text which says, are you at the airport yet? Because we probably don't need you to go down tomorrow morning. And I was like, I am at the airport.

5:08In fact, I'm in the airplane, which is parked at the airport. So this is where they park them. Yeah, often. Yeah. And so, because we had this, the story is about the fact that some of the most profitable films that have come out of late and that have been these big hits have been made by people who actually got their start making things on YouTube. Oh, yeah, sure. We're kind of calling it like YouTube film school for shorthand. Like you had that movie, Backrooms. Backrooms means a big one. A big one made by a guy named Kane Parson. And then you had a session, I believe. Obsession. Cully. Curry. Forget Curry's last name. But anyway, so the idea was, we'll do a story about how this is now kind of where some interesting filmmakers are emerging from. And then, I think there's a guy who is, who sort of also cut his teeth on YouTube and has now been tapped to direct the new Blair Witch Project.

6:08Oh, I heard about it. So I was supposed to interview him yesterday. He was supposed to be in Maryland location scouting. And I was supposed to be talking to him on some kind of video link while he's out there looking for, you know, kind of spooky trees for a person to be standing in front of, I guess. Seems like the Blair Witch Project would be the movie you would need to be the least concerned about the location. I mean, that's not true. But I mean, it was such an unconventional film when it was made, right? It's all kind of POV of someone holding a video camera. You have very shaky footage and like kind of it was supposed to, it was presented in the movie as if it were found footage of, from these kids where something went very sideways. Well, so that filmmaker decided to pull out for some reason, maybe just scheduling conflicts. And then the guy who directed back rooms who had agreed to do the interview, his people, I think Lionsgate films or something said, yeah, we're going to hold off on this because, oh, the other guy, the guy who did obsession didn't want to talk to us because he's hoping that the film is nominated for an Oscar.

7:13And then that's when they really want to get the juice of some media coverage so they were intentionally sort of slow rolling their own kind of media program right now because they really want our show to do a profile of them when it's Oscar season. So that's interesting. This is a little off topic of what you're talking about, but it does remind me you did a story or at least you did some reporting with the people who did the, the Chuck Lori Stewart fails to save the universe. Has that piece, was that piece finished and aired because I'm noticing that there's something in the air where the actors on that show are making the comedy podcast rounds like this week and I wasn't sure if this was, you can turn it with that. I could turn into with that. A couple months ago, which is, you know, rare for us that we're actually, you know, ahead of the curve. I think that the RP, I think our story came out on the same week that it actually debuted on HBO. Okay, but I'm guessing that it maybe they're just like, they're just trying to, you know, kind of keep the momentum going.

8:16Maybe there's a strategy around that like you, you send your Brian Posains out into the world. It's lap. And in both. In both scenes. That's what there's absolute sweetheart, by the way, Brian, posting. He seems like he would be. I remember if he's nice on him live one time, but him and lap. I guess they're on comedy bang, bang, this week. And of course, lap. Kiss is a close friend of that show and of Scott. And then I think it's the guy who plays to work, although I don't know much about universes on like Hollywood handbook, which is another sort of improv. He kind of comedy podcast. And I was just like, it can't be a coincidence that all three of these people are being situated in comedy podcast studios on this exact week. It feels like maybe because I've heard so, you know, there's been a lot of bad press about that. And I think the ratings to the degree that HBO has ratings, I think, are not great. I think the ratings were actually very strong at first. I think it really, you debuted at number one. Now, maybe it's fallen off. Number one of what? I remember reading. This is our story was already out.

9:16So I wasn't like doing this for specific research purposes. But I was curious. It had a very strong debut for HBO in terms of, I don't know if it was the click, you know, the click. So the number, it was at least initially. And again, maybe it fell off. Maybe people didn't actually like to show and the word spread on that. Maybe that's what they're trying to counteract now. But I do remember there was one sort of data point that I was like, oh wow, okay. That actually, you know, they had, again, I think a pretty strong debut. That's interesting. I mean, well, that's the thing too. Like, and I didn't read this. I'm not trying to argue with you about it. But that is where you get into the, the BS of the streaming numbers. And we just have to trust the companies. They can say whatever they want is that isn't public information. And I feel like, in fact, I don't have a, I don't have a duck on this flight. So like, maybe I'm wrong and I wouldn't have a feeling about it one way or the other. But I just felt like I didn't read any deep dive reviews on it. Because it's just again, not something that I'm super interested in. But I feel like I just saw a lot of people kind of posting and saying. And maybe Genevieve said the same thing. Like, I wouldn't be, like, I'm sort of in, I'm sort of inclined to be in the bag for this kind of thing.

10:19And even for me, it just was not working. Which is, it's a, the only reason I care about that at all isn't because I care about the property or the IP that they keep on stretching out. But I like the people involved. You know what I mean? I want good things to happen for your lepishes and your flocks of post-sains. That's right. Because I mean, and it was, you know, talking to, in particular Brian Postain about this, he was like, this is the best gig I've ever had in my life. Because I've never been, you know, one of the four main people in something. And the idea that the premise of this, you know, show was you're taking these side characters from like the Big Bang Theory Universe. Which is not a universe that I've spent a tremendous amount of time in. Although I do, I'm weirdly the official Chuck Laurie biographer of television these days. Like I did something about like a young Sheldon. I need an old Sheldon and a young Sheldon. But, but, you know, it was, it was sort of a, it's a cool idea to take some folks who would not normally fall in love with it. Who would not normally find themselves, you know, number one on the call sheet and write a show for them.

11:22So that, and the idea that it was kind of a multiverse. So each episode was set in a different, you know, kind of version of the universe and a different look and feel. I mean, these are all kind of cool ideas. And like you said, I liked all of the people, including Chuck Laurie. I liked all of the people I talked to for the story. That doesn't always mean that the final product is going to be, you know, super popular or even like work. But yeah, I, you know, I was rooting for it. I would like it to be good because everybody, this happens to me with every single project that I work on though, which is maybe with a couple of exceptions. I'm trying to think where if I finish something and I like the person less than before, generally speaking, most of these people that I interview and I'm around, I find them to be generally nice and pleasant people. And they are humanized for me at that point. So then I end up, you know, thinking good thoughts for them and hoping things kind of go well. Now, our friend Brian Possein was on that funny you should ask, which is the new Ike Baron Holtz. Oh, yeah, you read his ass.

12:23Did you just, well, I mean, he shut the show down because of that comment. It was sad. I actually felt bad. It worked too well. He said, yeah, this is going to be our last episode because somebody wrote, do two seconds of research, Isaac. Yeah. And he was like, and I never recovered. I didn't have the confidence to open up this microphone ever again. Yeah. So what's the name of the tennis player? I use it for the show pick that day. For an evenie. So that's evenie. So that I had to track down a tennis card. I wasn't sure if they made like trading cards of tennis players. What I found like a 90s era tennis card of. I wouldn't have known. There was, you know, there was this brief period of time where my buddy Peter and I, with, well, starting with wood rackets. But then eventually we upgraded to, you know, like a fiberglass model. So something kind of semi decent. We were really into tennis. Like there was a tennis court down at Green Lake that we would just go and we would play tennis for hours and hours and hours. That must have been around the time when I was tracking Gordon even these. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I have always, I mean, I.

13:26So funny. It's like it doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to be out of reach for me. I'm 49 years old. But like I've always been fascinated for another. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Hey, you remember. Couple of, I guess a couple of months. But anyway, I've always thought like tennis seems like so much fun to me. And now of course, everything's pickleball now. But I was walking past some tennis courts. I think tennis courts, cum pickleball courts now. Good news of cum. But just hearing the don't, don't, don't, the thwack, thwack, thwack, the, the Boeing Boeing Boeing of the ball. Like there's something when I hear, I mean, tennis has got to have the, and I guess maybe pickleball by relation has to have the best sports sounds, right? Well, funny that you would mention that because it is a topic of some controversy. The sound of the pickleball hitting, you know, the pickleball hitting the pickleball paddle. It makes a sound that annoys a lot of people and in all these neighborhoods. And it's, it's, it's, it's louder than a traditional like tennis racket hitting a tennis ball.

14:29Okay, yeah, which I find that sound very pleasant actually. Yeah. The tennis racket hitting hitting the tennis ball. I like that sound. Um, the pickleball thing is, is louder and there's just, it's happening a lot more. Let's say you have like doubles. Yeah. It's like four people and this ball is just getting thwacked a whole bunch and there's big, big sort of, you know, fights in neighborhoods where it's like people are up playing pickleball at 7 30 in the morning and the people that live in the neighborhood are like, I'm, I'm going to lose my mind. I'm not doing this. I get, I think I'm trying to put myself in their shoes because like I have been like in a, you know, a hotel or a, you know, Airbnb or something on vacation and been by the tennis courts. And you do hear that. But again, I think I'm thinking tennis, not pickleball. But I'm just trying to think it in my regular life. If I couldn't, you know, get away from it. It's like outside my window. And it's extra amplified because it's pickleball and it's extra amplified or there's more frequency of it just because it's so popular. Like you live next to a tennis court, you're just not going to get that much traffic.

15:29Maybe on a Saturday or a Sunday, you get a little bit more than usual. But with the, you know, like you said, the explosion and popularity, I'm trying to, I'm having trouble getting annoyed by proxy here. But I get annoyed easily. So I guess I could kind of imagine that being a little bit much. There are some, you know, converted some tennis courts that are now pickleball courts kind of near Becca's place. And so we'll go on a walk and we'll walk by it. And I find it to be totally charming. But that's because it's not right next to our bedroom. Yeah, yeah. If I'm out in the world and I'm walking up towards it and people are outside and they're being healthy and, and all that, it just seems like a positive to me. But again, I would have to, I guess, experience if it was literally, you know, it's funny. I'm like looking out, I bet you I can see, I bet you from where I am in this hotel, I can see at least one to five pickleball courts here in the West Chester area of Los Angeles. But the big test of that theory for me is children. And by that, I mean, the sound of, I find the sound of children laughing and running around to be a delight.

16:34I enjoy that. And I, even a kid that's crying on an airplane, I don't love that sound, but it doesn't bother me a lot. And I, as I mentioned on the show, I try to, if I can get eye contact with a parent, I try to send them an unspoken message that says, nobody is mad at you about this kid. The kid is just going through it because that's what happens. And I don't want you to feel any pressure. I don't you feel bad about this on our behalf because that's just what happens with kids. I'm trying my hardest to to project that. And in fact, when I hear people complain, I mean, this is a very dark and serious example. But there was this documentary, I think, on Netflix that really kind of rocked my world about this neighbor who really hated the kids playing, like, you know, kind of, like, you know, touch football in this area of this kind of grass near this apartment that she felt was sort of her private area. And it was this long running issue. And then someone ended up getting shot over this. I mean, it really intents awful stuff. But I kept thinking like the sound of children playing tag and running is like, I think it's music.

17:38Like I love it. It's like, it's like life is happening here. And what a what a gift to be around it. That being said, what if I lived adjacent to elementary school? Yeah. The kids were just screaming their faces off all day. Could that ruin the laughter of children for me? I don't know. I probably won't test the theory, but that's one where I'm always just like, how could a kid having fun bother you? I'm like, well, maybe if it's 800 kids and they're doing it. And if you know, it's points throughout the day. Not to create a total unicorn of a situation. But if you do have, let's say, an odd schedule where you're half a day off of everybody or you work the night shift or whatever, you know, and again, like there are certain things that are just about the day time is going to usually create more noise. I mean, there is just the reality of that. But if you are somebody who you're like, you find yourself living next to a noisy situation like that. And then in order to just keep on living, you end up having to take a job where you're like, oh, on top of this, I'm going to be trying to sleep while this is happening.

18:40That would be an extra late. You know what I've been, what I've become an absolute adherent to. And a power user of is an eye mask now. Almost all that like in less time classic one that feels like sand in there and a little weighted something like that. Yeah, I bought it off of, you know, the people that are bringing stuff by drone now. But it's very comfy. The US military. Yes. Wow. I didn't know that they sold eye masks. That's cool. Is it camo? They do. It was $74 million. Does it look like a San Diego Padres uniform? It does. It looks like an Arizona Cardinal uniform from Sunday where it was like. I don't know why I don't know if you got if you looked close to the head little flex people. I hate those. Yeah, I remember the text chain blew up about that last season when they debuted. I was thinking to myself, and I'm sorry to get you off track. I think I kind of secretly, I think I might be the only person in the world who sort of secretly likes it. Everybody hates those speckles so much. I was kind of like, oh, reminds me of an egg. What it made me think was, oh, we play inside a stadium on turf.

19:44We were never going to get that classic like the Frozen Tundra, NFL films, quality. We're not going to have mud on our jersey. These aren't going to look like, you know, you aren't going to see the battle scars as it were on these things because we're playing on artificial turf inside a dome environment. So we're going to put something on it that gives a little patina to the uniforms. A little grit. You don't have to do that in green Bay. Yeah. That's like, that'll take care of itself. But what I've realized is I'm much more sensitive to what the light levels are when I'm trying to fall asleep or I'm trying to stay asleep. And so like here in this hotel, you know, I've been, I used the eye mask. I used to like, you know, I sort of, my theory was, I want to wake up with the sun. So when it gets light, that's telling me it's time to wake up. But now I don't sometimes want to do that. And I realized like, oh, I, like I used to be able to close my eyes in a fully lit room and go to sleep.

20:44And I cannot do that anymore. Like I'm getting more sensitive about more things, I think, as I advance in age. I mean, you know, things like I now have to have this white noise machine going all the time when I'm sleeping or like a pretend fan on the phone or even this weird, deep soothing music and stuff. So and now I'm putting the eye mask into play. I'm going to just be in a sarcophagus. Sure. I know. Or one of those floating pools. Don't you like those? Is there another thing you and Joby? I've done one of those and it was really fun. And then I have another coupon. Do you know that I'll go ahead and call Sue Dell, my mother-in-law effectively? Do you know that I've had two mother-in-laws by me give certificates to floats? I wonder what that says. I wonder what the, you're going to be around my daughter. You need to chill the F out. The women who, the women who gave birth to the women I am with are like they've identified something in me that needs fixing. They think maybe a big egg like I'm more from more can Mindy could do it for me. That's a good M by the way when I'm trying to fall asleep and I'm thinking of sitcoms.

21:47Remember I told you I'm on the sitcom Jagnaut always starts with. Yeah, more can Mindy. Elf or Abbott Elementary and then you're off to the races. But okay, so I feel like I've gotten this off topic. I am going to cure you. So you came to LA. I got to be honest with you. When I saw on your show sheet yesterday, we never got to this. You said something like boy, it's like the story doesn't want to happen or something. Yeah, I thought for a second, I'm like, oh, we're still talking about the racing, not go cards, the racing lawn lures. Because that had a weather component to it. And I thought, oh, that'd be funny. Not funny. But that'd be interesting if it also is cursed because now suddenly these lawn mower racers don't want to be interviewed anymore. That would be kind of interesting twist. I will tell you the lawn mower racers are extremely available and would love nothing more than for us to cover their lawn mower racing exploits. It's just the weather wasn't cooperating in Florida. We're going to go back in April. What do they know about young otters? Well, about as much as I do at this point, Andrew, in that neither they nor I have interviewed any of them. I see a solution here.

22:48Like maybe get them to also talk about these. Did you like back rooms? I thought it was interesting. So you haven't actually I kind of do want to watch back rooms. I was avoiding it and obsession because I'm so scared of scary movies. I feel like I must have told you this at some point. Did I tell you how I ended up watching the original short that back rooms is based on that the guy that you were trying to interview made when he was still like what 16 years old or something? No, what was the circumstances? So I don't like going to the theater to see scary movies. I did see weapons but it kind of whatever there's exceptions when I feel like a movie maybe kind of breaks through a little bit and you'd think back rooms would be the same but I was just like it just it just seems like it's going to scare the hell out of me. So I mean just the loans. I'm not even kidding. Yeah, just some kind of there's some sort of deep, deeply unsettling experience of those kinds of office rooms. And that's the sun's furniture, but you also understand how that kind of aesthetic would sort of appeal to me in an ass in a kind of an artistic sense.

23:56You know what I mean? Like this idea of abandoned and what's left when you finally move the printer out of there or whatever like you don't I mean like there is something that I mean that seems like it's the effect that the fluorescent lights had on the carpet color when you move something that was there for a long time. Yeah, deteriorated. It's not as faded. Even the end or even though there's not a window in sight. So I mean there's actually yeah, there's something aesthetic about it that it appeals to me the idea of a kind of bit but I just don't like being scared and that's the truth of the matter. So I was like well that sounds interesting but I didn't really kind of deep dive on it or anything. I was like well this is for the other people. This is for the brave people. And then we were in Cleveland, Ohio for the TV telephone. And I believe it was our day off. Remember how we had Saturday off and that was the day I think that we ended up ramping around and go to the ballgame and everything but the morning we had nothing to do. And it was kind of a big sense of relief. We got through the last broadcast of the week, you know, but then we had this sort of day off. And so I think I got a late start that day or something and I went into my little bathroom downstairs if we recall those off the living room.

25:02And I think while I was waiting for the water in the shower or something to heat up or something I just do what I always do and I opened up my phone and I scrolled and I saw a post on blue sky that said something like the somebody was suing or maybe just complain. I think people were just complaining that a 24 with the you know the film house was going around trying to take back rooms related stuff off of the internet. And file like copyright claims on this stuff and the whole point of the headline was like they they can't do that because that's the source material of back rooms. They have a backwards like this was an internet thing. This was creepy. Creepy pasta before it became a movie and then they were going in retroactively probably because they just have you know lawyer bots, you know, you might even be human lawyer bots. I don't know who just go around and kind of don't understand. Kind of don't understand it's like well that's our property now that's our property and so there is obviously a huge backlash to that and they by the way I think that within 24 hours the new cycle shifted over and I was like a 24 is backing off of that they understand they understood it now.

26:06And that is a reading that article like in the bathroom and then probably getting in the shower and still scrolling it. I was like oh I don't think I fully understood the origin of this movie I understood oh my god I'm watching a spider. This is happened on the show before I'm watching a spider crawl on a spider web. This is really happening this is not well this is not part of the part of the room. This is really creeping me out although it is kind of a spider monster in the original one. It is think about it so anyway this is very weird now I'll make the short shorter I'll try to wrap this up I I'm sitting there I have no intention of even reading this full article but it kind of catches my head my the headline catches my eye. I'm like oh I didn't quite realize the origin of this kind of came up from the internet and then I'm learning about creepypasta I'm reading this article and then I'm like well here I am in the shower the movies I believe 9.5 minutes long. Like the short the original short that you made when he was a teenager and I'm like I can probably handle watching this right now in the shower with the warm water like washing over me and that is how I watched the original back rooms short was in the shower.

27:12I know about a guy watching a horror movie in the shower. I was like it won't be a scary in here and then I think about you know this story later and I'm like well yeah because nothing scary ever happens in the movies in a shower. I used to sometimes when I was a kid I would be closing my eyes in the shower and I would become so terrified thinking what if there is you know some rass murderer who's standing right next to me I just don't know because my eyes are closed but then I would be too afraid to open my eyes. Because you didn't want to face that reality. Yes I remember that I was also afraid because I couldn't see anything because I'd close my eyes because I was taking a shower and it would just be like the moment of opening my eyes to realize that in fact there was no one there it was very stressful actually. So the idea that that was your safe place it also explains why the water bill was so high that month. Well why your phone is so moldy. You know because you sometimes are a two shower a day feller and you really like taking showers.

28:12I don't mind them but I try to do one a day and I try to time everything else like I can do my job before the shower etc. But this all makes a lot more sense because I didn't realize the shower was a multimedia. Oh I'm getting I'm getting what I'm going to work done in there my friend. I did not realize I'm first of all I think maybe I know theoretically my phone is waterproof but I would never take it in the shower. But I the for you being in the shower is just you're doing basically you're living your normal life you're just getting more wet. Exactly and I'm always sending emails you can just you're multitasking. And I'm wearing a business suit the whole time by the way just you know I slip into a business suit and then I step into the shower. I'm sure you have heard it as well you should you didn't you didn't rotate through various scenarios of sometimes sometimes you know sometimes I'm going to be in it. I like it. Okay. Yeah. This is this has been the oddest thing because you know the bosses were like hey well this is very in the weeds and kind of boring but.

29:18So I've had the story done for a long time that's about the kind of true crime phenomenon and why it is that a lot of the most popular television stuff is about true crime and. People are pretty obsessed with it why are we why are people so obsessed with it. So I think a pretty decent story and there was some discussion about it being the cover story which is kind of like the big story of the week and then somebody said well we can't make it the cover story and that story by the way is done it's filmed it's ready to go. Somebody said we can't have that be the cover story because we have YouTube film school that's going to be the cover story and it's like okay. And then on like Friday they said hey could you do that cover story called YouTube film school next week and I was like okay you both yourself I bumped myself and now we're doing by the in terms of how Sunday morning operates were now on a very tight deadline we're on a crash. So there's two producers working on this story there's an editor just like just standing by I mean I don't know what they're just like they're just basically like downing black coffee and snorting glue like Lloyd bridges and airplane just like getting ready to come in and at the heck out of this story.

30:22And as the week has progressed everyone has pulled out for one reason or another none of them particularly compelling except I honestly think some of it has to do with. Can pixel right the guy came parsing who made back rooms I don't think being on Sunday morning is as big of a deal to him as it would be if he were Lloyd bridges rest in power you know what do you mean like I think there's a generational thing I think some of these young filmmakers and they're probably not wrong are like yeah you know I could like this one guy we were trying to interview. He's doing today he's doing a bunch of podcasts and he's flying to Korea and he's just not going to do our show and so it's been an interesting experience to realize kind of like. The media that I'm in which I guess you could call old media does not have quite the grip on the young on new media or the young people making stuff that you. That were used to with other things like let's say lawnmower racing there are there are the people that are like would crawl over broken glass to get on CBS Sunday morning and it turns out 20 year old filmmakers who are making tremendously profitable films.

31:26At age 20 there you know they've got their life they're going to lead and they're going to do what they want to do which which kind of makes sense to me this is the thing right before you and I dialed up today and I got a call from a different producer who said just to let you know true crime is going to be the cover story this week. Oh so that was the that was the original one that got that was yeah I guess I got myself bumped for for this other story which has now become harder and I'm going to go do an interview after the recording today after this recording so we're still putting something together but it's it's proving more challenging than I expected and it sounds like the likely replacement for the story that isn't happening this week for me is a different story that I did so which was the original plan right you said that it was never the plan we were advocating for. Oh well oh I see okay it was the kind of thing where we there's a lot of you know there's a lot of palace in tree around what story is going to get on a lot of like me sending emails like hey bosses like trying to kind of like go you know you should really take a look at this you know we've done this thing and here's why it would be great for this but it's like I'm always trying to figure out what's the tone I should be using also what's too much bothering them about stuff like I have to try to kind of use you know sort of you know strategically use up my little capital.

32:37Of emailing them and bugging them about things I don't want to do it constantly because then it'll just start to seem like you know background noise to them so. So that's yes I'm here I'm here in LA enjoying the some nice sunny weather while this story rapidly deteriorates and you think there might be the other interview scheduled for tomorrow supposedly no that just got canceled oh that was it another one that got canceled there have been four interviews have been canceled so I'm talking to a guy this afternoon named named Matt Bellini and he runs a real he's actually an interesting character he's like the sort of the I don't know Walter Winchell of his day he's like this kind of one man band who is breaks a lot of Hollywood news he's got a show on the ringer called it is called hometown or no the what's it I was just listening to you think I would know the name of it but he's basically like you know kind of become one of the go to people for a lot of people for like Hollywood news and breaking things and he's really really dialed in on like the business of Hollywood and stuff so the idea to talk to him a little bit about like is this kind of where things are going you know which is these folks that come in with a built an audience of the you know because this guy can

33:51person can pixel he's known on on YouTube he's got like millions and millions of followers on YouTube he was making content this is the guy that did back rooms he was making stuff on YouTube that had millions of downloads and views before this and that's kind of an interesting way to make a movie now is you're bringing along all these people that are interested in your work what I really think is interesting is I think part of what is made a lot of Hollywood so stinky over the last few years is it's all about intellectual property all they want to do is make movies that are based on things that we've already seen so that they don't have to try to convince us they're not to try to talk us into understanding who the characters are also you know they're probably the studio they are working with owns the rights to that thing so just like we just keep getting this constant re re tread and re release of like another Scooby Doo movie or whatever you know peace and love to Scooby Doo the cartoon which was absolutely formative in my life but the thing that's interesting about these young filmmakers is there was no back I mean you kind of mentioned about a 24 trying to go back and reverse engineer but in a way there was intellectual property associated with back rooms but it was the same intellectual property the guy made you know and others we like before he made that movie other people are not going to be able to do it but I think that's not the same thing.

35:02Before he made that movie other people were just building on this sort of shittlest legend sort of just like one person posting a photo. I would so much rather that get made than emojis too. You know like like because and so that's interesting to me that if there is and the two of the most profitable films based on what they're you know what they cost to make were obsession and back rooms. We had the Odyssey made a bunch of money and Spider-Man made a bunch of money but those are also expensive movies to make these other ones are like pretty cheap so it might be kind of cool to see more stuff get created that isn't just trotting back out something that we've already seen because some studio owns the rights to that the other thing that's going to make this little complicated is the biggest story in Hollywood today is that the David Ellison deal is now going to go through where paramount skydance paramount aka the people I work for are going to be allowed to who for a lot of people are going to be able to get up Warner Brothers and I'm also going to talk to this Mark Bellany guy about that will that get on anyone radar at my work I don't know will find out it's kind of weird when you're when you work for the place that's doing the thing that a lot of people think is bad for movies and now you're going to interview the main guy who's out there you know like you know he's he's a straight shooter so if he doesn't think is as good he'll say it's not good he's saying to the guy that works for the company he's talking about.

36:23Can you this is a kind of a not a sharp turn in the conversation but kind of rolling things back a little bit and I apologize but I asked you about this off air the other day and I'm kind of googling around here trying to figure out what I'm thinking of I heard a kind of in the same context that you're talking about about younger directors and you're talking about a little bit different in a different context but I heard a somewhat similar story on all things considered I'm going to say in the last three weeks or so and I thought it was about this movie. It's called it ends but I it ends looks like it already came out in August you have any idea what I what I'm talking about when I'm talking about a movie called it ends it's another one if it ends is a sequel to it follows because I think there was a movie called it follows it does but I don't think that's the case here because this is a directorial debut of another young director now I don't know if this director came up through kind of the YouTube world that you're talking about so you know apologies for confining the movie.

37:23I was actually just curious if this would come up because I basically heard the setup for this on all things considered basically saying you you know you have these movies that are being made by these very they're usually horror and they're being made by these very young filmmakers and they have a sort of like a lack of place involved and I'm pretty sure it ends and I'm kind of shooting for the hip from the hip here I think it's like a group of like young people in a car ride that for some reason never ends actually in the whole whole world. Or the movie to this show. Yes it adds add a thing. What is something people hope will happen on to be today. But you know again to kind of give you that that that sense of placelessness or whatever you just put it in this car that never stops if I even understand this correctly and I sort of wasn't sure if this was kind of fitting into your your scope of coverage here too but I don't know anything about this director but I do know that this is their directorial debut the reason I'm getting confused about this though was because I figured since eight eight you know all things considered was talking about this I figured it was a movie that was coming out soon and that's something that I already had launched in August so I'm a little confused.

38:35Well again I'm I wish I could shed some light on this Andrew but I have so far interviewed zero people associated with this project so maybe maybe tomorrow I'll have some answers for you but for now I think it's just time to thank the donors. We don't have that big Skydance Paramount money flooding in that Ellison money here we've just got donors that's that's what we've got going for us these are people who support TBL with voluntary donations of money and that's what makes this whole thing work this is 100% listener supported stuff that we're doing I was reading about this Matt Belene's his newsletter that he does and it's very popular he's got like hundreds of thousands of subscribers and that's what he's doing. Subscribers and and I was like I was crunching the numbers and I thought boy Andrew we um we're very grateful to have to have this job but boy I guess Hollywood um you know I guess kind of being the person who can take down Hollywood is really the that's the move that guy is clear out of money over there we're clearing enough money that we get to do this is our job you and me and John Sklaroff and that's not nothing and it's thanks to David Webster who's in Dunwoody Georgia thank you David.

39:50This is the yearly reminder that Dunwoody is a suburb of Atlanta and that when I said that Ryan Seacrest was from tiny Dunwoody Georgia that was kind of showing my whole but oh I see in a story you said that this morning I was talking about a move out of the money Dunwoody Georgia but that's like saying you know from tiny Linwood Washington or something it's like yes but it's also part of the Metroplex I see and Dunwoody does sound I mean it sounds like a name. Of a town that you would make up if you were making up a small town in Georgia exactly and I I fell for it so well played Seacrest thanks David appreciate you checking in and you're supporting us. Oh look who it is it's our friend Alicia Nicholas who's in Atlantic Beach Florida. I think it's Alicia thank you Alicia I only know that because through that I say wrong I think it's all that I think it's Alicia I think it's a Lissia. Yeah sorry I'm sorry Alicia but I but I'm not saying that to put you on the spot Luke I'm just saying that because I know that I have butchered Alicia's name so many times I'm very clearly written out for me and I still messed it up so that's a little bit that's embarrassing Alicia Alicia next year okay it's only been what 20 years that you all have been I mean

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43:31pronouncer on their name for tomorrow so this is a little we don't do this often but this is a little forward promo on tomorrow's donors we have somebody who is going to be identifying as fluffy and I think that's really interesting and so we will more on that hopefully there's only one only getting the Gabriel Eglaceous donations I you're going to have to to Luke you're going to have to tune in tomorrow to find out I wasn't going to tune in tomorrow but I guess I want you have to this well thank you to all of our donors so much for supporting the show we really do appreciate you and we're excited and humbled that this is actually our job so thanks for making that possible hello and welcome to top story I don't know if you had seen the story if you the past tense I'm not sure if you saw this story before I sent it to you in the show sheet Andrew but a headline from the New York Times it's raining boxes had not seen this they had to I guess maybe fight the urge to write it's raining boxes Holly Luia

44:34they said that it is raining boxes of course because I'm not logged in to the times I'm not on the app it's being annoying there is a town in Texas that seems to be kind of the you know I guess beta test or one of the early tests for Amazon drone deliveries and the thing about sorry I'm stumbling here it's Richard sin if that's what you're looking for that's the name of the I'm trying to get into the article but it's but because some time there a little bit thank you I mean I Richardson Texas where they have got a bunch of these Amazon you know delivery drones that are that are in service and are you know dropping boxes off and flying over people's houses and it's according to the people interviewed in the in the story it is very loud and very annoying and very kind of disruptive to people's peace and quiet like particularly when they're out in their yards recreating I went on Instagram and I actually found some files or whatever you know some people who had like filmed when these drones are landing

45:42because if I'm being honest with you when I hear about the idea of like a drone autonomously flying a box to my house it sounds kind of dope like it's very futuristic and it just it feels really like oh my gosh the future is very much now right so and the idea that you could I know that you and Genevieve I think quite impressively have detached yourself from the Borg that is Amazon I have not done that I wish I would I wish I I had the patience to do that but like the idea that like a yeah the idea that a flying machine would just like bring me a box it does seem kind of cool and then I watched the video of these things oh I haven't watched it they're so oh there it is oh okay now is there audio on this or you just look at the place of my own I've actually got this is literally the sound of a drone

46:51I should have given a warning to people who are sound sensitive like I am that it's a very annoying sound I apologize I should have trigger warning you on that but that is I've actually got three different examples but they all sound pretty much the same is that from this article out of curiosity it's actually from Jerry salts's Instagram feed you know the critic Jerry salts I've been really getting into him lately no um but um but I mean these things are so loud and also I mean I'm I'm famously very very bad at predicting the future or knowing where industries are gonna go or what is and is not going to be useful I was once talking to one of the founders of of Twitter and I just thought you poor son of a bitch this is going nowhere um so that's my track record but that being said I don't understand it seems like such a weirdly specific use case it has to be because it drops the box it's dropping a cardboard box from like I don't know what 20 feet up or something 10 feet up I'm looking at this now um I'm not it's not saying exactly at least what I'm looking at is not saying exactly how high up it

47:56drops it but can't you see it though or not oh I'm just looking at all these like they kind of have a bunch of gifts and stuff on the okay on the embedded in this article so that's why I was curious where you were getting that actual sound from but it does drop it doesn't like can I just mention this is reminding me of the time that you and I worked together back at Kyro Radio because like this was sort of the before everybody was freaking out about AI everybody was freaking out about drones remember that and I think it's a very different story but it's the last technology that sort of had a big panic around it I think and you had some people being like if I see a drone I'm shooting it out of the sky right and then you had other people that were saying like star bucks and Amazon were like this is the future and we were seeing the earliest prototypes of do you remember there's a big deal about like I had a bar like articles just like this I had a burrito delivered to my home or like a cup of coffee would shake a Lee come down because they were first playing around with this and now they're actually letting them loose on a whole town and more of kind of a real market situation so I I find it interesting but I also can sort of just time stamp

48:57how long it's taken us to get to this this point because that was 2014 2015 for maybe 2013 2014 working together in Seattle there and and so now and now here it is and people have always been I don't think there's as much of an existential threat by this technology to compare to AI or something like that but people have been freaking out about this for a while. Well they've got to figure something out because these things are again incredibly loud there's I would imagine you know 80% of the stuff that you might buy from Amazon I don't know where we get that number from wouldn't even be eligible for this because if it's even remotely breakable the drone does not like land on the ground and then like open a hatch and then a little robot hand places a package down it just straight up drops it from like I don't know 10 feet or something so it's got to be something that is not going to get destroyed by dropping one of them whatever was in the box the box is so light that then the prop wash from the drone is like blowing the box across the lawn

50:01oh after it let's go of it it's now pushing it around yeah it's just the downward air pressure from the from the drones like propellers so you have this like very light box it's like dropped onto a sidewalk and then is blown well into the yard because you know that's another thing you're not going to get this is not precise yet you're not I mean these packages were not just like carefully placed down upon the porch because just the whole mechanics of the thing so you've got this like you've basically got like the world's worst paper boy just kind of chucking the paper in the general direction of the house also what was ever whatever was in that box that the one that that I'm remembering that was dropped and then again was blowing across the lawn it was obviously very light because the prop wash was and it's like what even did that cost was it a five dollar item like I don't know how the I don't I don't understand I mean obviously Amazon is they're pretty smart business people and they're they think they've got something going here but I don't really understand the economics of it either like you're flying a drone out to my house to drop down a

51:07a five dollar hairbrush that I bought or something you know that then it's like blowing across the lawn like that's gonna be cheaper than a human being getting in a truck and driving it right except for the economies of scale right which would be the human being there's a lot of stuff in that truck yeah and the drone might have a couple of items maybe it's going to a few different places but it's still you know it seems more limited and like the reason that that hairbrushing it delivered to my house and someone still makes money on it is because it's one of a thousand things that that truck does that day these these drones just seem so much more kind of like specific and also it's just the noise and this goes for like these drones and this goes for like you know personal flying machines which the whole joke is we were promised jet packs but like you know they they do have these drones now and things that are that can fly a human around what they have not been able to figure out and I don't know how they ever will because it's a lot of I guess physics the amount of noise that is generated by the propellers on these drones if you want something that can pick

52:10a human being up and fly them somewhere you're these propellers are doing so much work and there is no way for them to do the work without the associated noise and I don't know how they'll solve for that but it's like it's so much worse than any other kind of it's so much louder than like if you were an assessment even probably louder than a helicopter it's also just annoying in a way it's like a specific kind of like sound it's sound wave that just like it really bothers me and you know me I'm very sensitive to sound so I went from being like oh this is kind of cool like I went from being like oh I hope they add my neighborhood because I would love to just see like a Amazon drone or a drone whatever come flying up the hill and then drop something of the Madrona Hill studio but then I thought do I want swarms of these in the sky like Brian Posayne's and they're roughly the size of Brian Posayne as well these are fairly substantial these drones too you know because they have a cargo bay in them and stuff like that I don't know these they've got to they have to make these things a lot better before I would actually be excited now I mean I would like to see one one

53:12time do its job but I don't think I don't think in much the way that I really enjoy taking Waymos around here in Los Angeles I don't think that I want the swarm of those delivery drones to come to my neighborhood I am with you that I'd like to kind of see it before I make up my mind I'd like to sort of see how annoying they are can I read to you I don't know did you I don't know if you got access to your article or not but I don't know if this was part of the original plan but can I read to folks the lead to this article that you sent me from the New York Times is so good is Juliet McHur if I'm saying that name correctly which there's a very real possibility I'm not M-A-C-U-R Juliet McHur is a national writer for the New York Times says the sound came out of nowhere it began as an unnerving high pitched hum like a mosquito flying around a dark room at bedtime and it grew louder as it drew closer a family lounging in a backyard pool in Richardson Texas just north of Dallas couldn't help but notice there's another one coming this way shouted Eric Anderson

54:14from his pool float pointing to an area above the tall line of trees his nine year old daughter Ila removed her swim goggles for a clearer look at what could have been a scene from science fiction within a minute or so an eighty three pound drone with six blue arms and whirring propellers appeared in a corner of the sky before zipping over nearby houses looking like a cross between a mechanical dragonfly and an x-wing fighter and buzzing like a battalion of bees the drones mission delivering an Amazon package and then it goes on to say that the packages have to be five pounds at max by the way so you have an eighty what did they say eighty three pound drone delivering boxes that can only be five pounds max also it's like if you you know are sensitive to noise you make a decision around like maybe where you buy your house and maybe you don't buy one that's on the freeway or whatever like you know or you know I'm looking out at lax literally as we speak maybe you don't buy a place or rent a place at the foot of lax airport but these folks were otherwise living in what was

55:19presumably a pretty quiet pretty bucolic area where all of a sudden now this thing has just arrived out of nowhere it's not a freeway it's not a new I mean it is effectively a new flight path very much so I also remember from I don't have the article in front of me now but I remember from reading it that there was also somebody in the story who kept asking the like the town had basically said these things can fly from I want to say it's like eight a.m. to seven thirty or something they're like certain hours that they would let these things fly and this woman was like can we try to limit that can we try to because it's like you know maybe it's even seven in the morning these drones are buzzing around our house it's you want to talk about annoying stuff when you're trying to sleep your neighbor decided that they wanted to order more coffee filters and now he got this behemoth just drone you know buzzing past your house at seven in the morning so they can get their coffee filters it's like it just yeah it just it is and I think that for me it's because I am so sensitive to this kind of stuff this feels like basically like if somebody just said oh we're going to put some Harley Davison's in the sky and and your neighbor might just order something from one of these

56:22Harleys I will get it's the only I love my neighbors well I don't one of my neighbors I tolerate the other one I really like and my good neighbor the only thing about him that is even the slightest bit challenging is he loves his Harley Davison do you tune it up does he like do they have it rumble for like an hour see I live next to something like all he does is drive it when he wants to go take his lady on a little Sunday drive all he does is start it up and then he just drives it up his road and out of the neighborhood he doesn't he's not doing anything over the top he's not as we just say dry dry gunning it or dry you know he's not sitting there revving it like crazy but even just when it goes from his garage up to the part of the road where I can't hear him anymore it's probably less than 10 seconds it is the longest and then it's starting when he's coming back I can hear it it's like it makes me so uncomfortable for some reason so I'm very sensitive of these things so that's probably why I think it's especially bad but it seems bad yeah and I was going I can't

57:23find anything in the article that says what the limitations are on when these things can fly right now but I was kind of wondering as you were sort of setting up the idea of like well what if you just already live here and then suddenly this becomes the scenario of your neighborhood and I was like well then somebody must have voted right somebody must be accountable somebody must have left this happen and it is true that the city council approved this apparently miss says Ms. Anderson I believe that would be somebody associated with the pool family yeah says she asked the city if Amazon could at least limit the hours or days that it flies the drones but her requests were not granted Greg so all the city spokesman said that the city council approved the drones last year without putting any restrictions on them so I mean I guess I'm to 8 p.m. okay yeah that is the city regulation on when this happened seven am is pretty early honestly you got a little baby yeah imagine you're up all night with your newborn you finally get them down and you finally maybe trying to

58:24catch up on a little sleep and seven a.m. and for some reasons also for me what I assume is the complete unnecessary nature of what is in the box compared to the amount of disruption people's life in other words these aren't this is an organ donation this isn't like you know that cooler where they put somebody's you know somebody's kidneys and then they're sending them to someone else who needs them or whatever this is I'm sure almost all stuff that nobody really needs that badly I mean God forbid there's a notary in one of these I mean you'd really you'd really see red I mean honestly at this point if I see a notary anywhere I avoid the entire shopping mall that's the entire district you see that little stamp just like you know but I mean there's something about the fact that I'm sure that what is in those boxes could have waited you could have gone to the store and got and again I'm talking about myself here I mean that's why I said coffee filters because like I haven't ordered coffee filters from Amazon but it's the kind of thing that I could see myself doing what I what I find myself doing now increasingly is and this is all by their

59:28unbelievably sinister design there's just a bunch of stuff that I now order there because I have ordered it before it's not it's like dish soap you know it's stuff like that I could totally get at the store but I don't but I'm not keeping a good shopping list and I don't go to the store as much as you do and it's just like I'm thinking about it right now and then I'll just go ahead and order it doesn't cost me more than if I went into the store and bought it there's just a lot of my kind of very banal kind of stuff around the house that is now coming by way of this Amazon stuff and I don't I'm not happy with myself with that it's just so much more convenient for me to just get it handled so again I'm the kind of person doing this but it's like just to think about what was in that box that involved that drone flying across Richardson Texas and just and ruining those people's nice little time in their swimming pool I'd like to see what it was that their neighbor needed so badly mm-hmm yeah yeah I also I still would like I guess you played that sound and that sound is really annoying I'm just kind of curious if that how often it is and how bad how bad it really is

1:00:30you know I mean because listen I'm not here defending Amazon because of various practices but like it's I know that Amazon at least that's entire fleets that I ever seen Seattle is also electric vehicles here I don't know what percentage of their fleet is like that around the country but I do sort of think like if a big part if if one big issue and there's a lot of issues but if one big issue with Amazon is the sort of you know environmental impacts of having this stuff going around now environment can be measured in various ways and noise pollution is a way of looking at your environment I suppose but like a little electric flying things delivering goods isn't as you know as odious to me is odious or onerous isn't as bad to me maybe as something that is like spewing out exhaust as it gets to your home well I don't only less agree they do that it's certainly less bad yeah for the environment if these and I presume these drones are all electric

1:01:30as well thing is all not all I care about but the noise factor for me is like it's like it's sound pollution that just personally makes me you know kind of sets my teeth on edge and the problem is you know I was just I think I was saying this on the show yesterday how like I've really been noticing the kind of like pretend sounds that they've been putting in cars now you know electric cars and they're kind of you know some of them are kind of cool some are kind of weird but like if you if you replace a combustion engine in a car with an electric you know with a big battery basically you have removed all of the sound from the car but you still have the propulsion it's still it's a working vehicle it doesn't matter if the drone is powered by electricity or gas you are going to have that sound because you you cannot get around to the fact that you need these fans to spin in such a way these propellers to spin in such a way that there's lift created so that's the part that I don't know if there's a technological solution to that but there's always going to sound like this yeah so even though they're better you're right they're definitely less bad for the environment than like a you know a gap like a diesel FedEx truck or a gas FedEx truck driving

1:02:35around for my money they're they're they're still they're bad for my personal environment which is called not having to hear them have you seen that Chicago Bears quarterback Caleb Williams is coming in for a certain amount of a certain amount of scorn from from the football cognizant for going out you know he got injured during the game on Sunday and they took him off on the on the cart and he did the whole thing where you had the towel over his head and then he fist pumped and then the crowd went wild as they were taking I did see that I did see the fist pump yeah because it was funny I you know I'm now putting all these little scenes together yesterday when I was just like half listening to sports radio on the AM dial like around lunchtime or something I did hear the local sports talkers chatting about like because one of them is an x football player like talking about the pain of this injury and like yeah and the grand scheme of things I couldn't quite figure out what they were talking about but they were sort of defending I guess a little bit the saying that like if this kind of injury happened to an average person it would be an incredibly painful thing

1:03:39but that I got the impression that the the book was that this guy was being a little extra well he has a I think it's a grade one hamstring strain so he has a hamstring strain that may cause him to miss games may not it's the the the way that it unfolded it looked like you know sadly in football there's this kind of you know sort of I don't know kabuki theater that goes on where somebody injured really badly and then everyone gets down on a knee and then they bring the cart out and they put the person on the car because they can't physically walk off the field and then that you know it's usually a pretty big emotional moment for this person their career might be over certainly their season is probably over this is usually like a torn ACL or like a ruptured a kill ease or something like it's some kind of a broken maybe a broken bone it's like it's for a spinal thing or a spinal injury exactly like it's these are and that's where everyone just kind of says like it's not even about the game anymore it's about this person's health and again you've got people that are in prayer mode instead it's like a whole thing and so for that all to have unfolded

1:04:45in that certain way but it turns out it's a it's a hamstring injury that may or may not keep him out next week mostly what I know is was you had a lot of ex players now granted these are all ex players that are like you know professional football you know sort of analysts now or whatever you know they've got like it's like one of the guys from it's like will come to from bus and with the boys so their job at this point is to have takes on things like this but they're basically it seems like mostly ex players that are going like the the towel over the head the cart this is very sacred territory this is like again we're literally like I think this guy will compensate he was getting emotional he was almost crying on behalf of Caleb Williams he was so worried about him and then when you hear later on it's a it's a low grade hamstring strain kind of people are there's also oddly and I didn't really realize this until today when I was kind of reading some of the coverage but it sounds like for some reason Caleb Williams and for no good reason is a player who certain people just like to kind of roast a little bit means a very good quarterback he's young he

1:05:48works really hard he's supposedly a great teammate yeah people generally like him I thought I was going to ask you that like people have a good vibe around him right I think so and I mean I know Chicago Bears fans are really excited because they do have a pretty good team this year and and you know and again everything I've ever seen from him he seems like a good guy but there's just something about his energy that just certain people are like looking for a reason to kind of like roast him and so this unfortunately gave them a little bit of fodder for that uh-huh but more of a kind of a gent so here's what I hear like he doesn't have a reputation is like if cam knew if this happened to cam Newton back in the day it would be a much more sort of toxic reaction right because like he was a very divisive guy I think he was an unlikable guy like I do think that like whatever I am on the side of the fact that like that guy was pretty hard to watch and you were on the losing he would put a towel over his head and pow to need much more care on Rodgers you were you were ahead of the curve on me not liking those guys yeah and he remember he kind of threw

1:06:48fit-string press conferences and stuff and be kind of like punched down a little bit and and so anyway he kind of had a bad reputation but Caleb Williams is not that right and I don't know much about him but I just remember you maybe off air you and I having a brief chat about him last year or something being like oh yeah this is like a this is a fun guy for the bears to have because the bears have been sort of in the wilderness for a while right very much so like real bears they've been the wilderness oh they shouldn't have named their team that yes oh it was a their fault all along and and so yeah to get this guy you know he's the number one overall pick and he has you know he's got some real talents you know he's really mobile he can really throw it well he's also very tough apparently like you know he's he's not somebody who is you know he's taken some pretty intense hits and and is seen as a a tough player so this is his his M.O isn't like guy who is being extra about injuries and again unless you've been on an NFL field it's just they're must there is no way to even try to probably understand or relate to what the physical experiences out there

1:07:53I mean it just must be so so unbelievably intense and fast moving and painful and brutal you know I mean feels like this season to there's just been a rash of injuries that Jackson dark go down last night I didn't realize Monday night football was like a mile from me last night I'm here oh yeah right yeah of course I'm kind of near so far I like I'm going on to take the I take the elevator down and there's like 30 people in Jackson dark jerseys in the lobby of my hotel and I was like oh that's the giants are they playing the Rams tonight so this was like the epicenter of football last night but I just feel like there's been a lot of unfortunate injuries particularly for quarterbacks I don't know if it's just because like you know defensive players are just getting that much faster and that much stronger or what did you see I don't even remember the guy's name but I think he's a cornerback for whatever team played the Steelers I don't know this this guy I think their photos of him tackling Aaron Rogers he's just it's just like it's like five different photos

1:08:56of Aaron Rogers being just having the crap tackled out of him from the last game and this is the cornerback from the other team just going enjoy retirement bro so we he got sacked five times or these were a set of photos based on the one or two events I don't I don't know how many times he got sacked my read it looks like maybe it's just multiple it looks like it's multiple photographs of maybe a couple of events but the point is it's a bunch of pictures of Aaron Rogers looking he's he's he's almost making John Ryan the mayor and the sea hawks puncher when John Ryan through that pass yeah he's almost making him look cool yeah he's just like he just Aaron Rogers getting just absolutely getting getting his clock cleaned or just getting tackled and he just looks derpy because anybody would yeah but the idea that the guy doing the tackling is just on whatever Twitter or something like that saying enjoy your retirement bro um only because it's happening to Aaron Rogers do I love it so much yeah yeah I was really bummed I did not follow this at all but talk about little spite games I was really bummed that Baker Mayfield couldn't as Tim Robinson says

1:10:00couldn't get the job done or couldn't get it done against the Sean Watson apparently I haven't really even watched the highlights from the game I just looked at the score and saw that um they that Tampa Bay was not able to pull one out at home which is such a bummer I know Sean Watson suddenly the world's worst man found his footing and was able to have sort of very moral victory over them bums me out it's such a strange I mean yeah there's no predicting because after week one it would have been like oh the Browns may never score a point this season and you're like you know oh Baker Mayfield need to sign this big contract he's really good and who knows what will eventually happen but yeah that was a surprising outcome uh the Patriots defensive and Cory Durden wrote on x enjoy retirement my dog my dog my dog is funny here after the Patriots victory defensive lineman Cory Durden took a shot at Steelers quarterback Aaron Rogers by sharing pictures from the game the photos showed Rogers taking a big hit during the second quarter the hit came when Patriots linebacker Christian Ellis got to Rogers from the blind

1:11:01side so this is maybe just one one moment in time but just enjoy retirement my dog and then four question marks oh my god the four question marks says it all and by the way I know we don't usually get into this but if anybody is looking for fantasy football advice I would advise you to draft Josh Allen and Jackson Smith and jigba because I have both of those players on my team and I'm never losing again and I had a couple of weeks my friend I get those two good dudes and those two together got like eight like 80 points just those two slots for the past two weeks it's incredible there's this charming like clip of I think the the woman singing the national anthem before the maybe most recent game the Buffalo played in is also I think she's actually the voice of the character Moana or at least when the character of Moana from the movie sings this woman is the voice of Moana and she's like and here to sing the national anthem is and then they say her name

1:12:06and then Josh Allen who must have been mic'd up is talking talking to you the other big football man goes do you know who that is she's the voice of Moana oh that's awesome oh I love that you're a jit psyched about that oh that's so cool yeah so so I'm glad that you're having success with these with these guys JSN and and and Josh Allen who both seem like pretty good pretty good guys yeah at least Josh Allen is a Moana head yeah yeah all right my friend I know that we keep threatening to do emails and emails but we keep running a little bit out of time so we might need to wrap things up today but I can commit to you Andrew doing doing no prep before tomorrow shows so therefore we might really need oh okay yeah because you have a busy day sorry if a stupe listeners happen to hear in a Australian woman say power out in the background there that would just be your engineer Andrew hitting some wrong buttons over here this is better sometimes he'll do that like one minute into the show just to put me on notice that's power out I'm gonna start doing that at full volume when I'm done with a conversation just power out it is sad how many I mean well you know and the

1:13:14listeners report this to us as well that at some point you just end up thinking in drops and even talking in drops if you know if you're talking to somebody who knows the show or even if they don't all right that's gonna do it for today's episode but we are going to be at a right back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for all of you so please join us for that in the meantime have a great Tuesday everybody take care of yourselves and please remember no mountain to tall and good luck to all