Dakota's Ricotta: Wednesday, September 16th, 2026

0:00Good morning, girlies, it's the Tollos. It's Jackson Claude and where your hoes. It's your favorite show, the fast-five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly, it's the Toast. It sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy. What is that? The top day. We're going to have a day on Wednesday and we're going to have a day on Wednesday. We're going to have an important day on Wednesdays. Yes we are both great. We're both great. Yes. Happy Wednesday, it's an important day of the week. Kind of structurally, kind of an integral part, some might say. And I'm joined here by one of my favorites, swirlies in the universe. That's so sweet. It's jox, jox, fullay. Sort of like the top swirly, head swirly in charge. Well, I feel like no, because I am also.

1:01Are you the number one swirly in this group? Tie for first. I'm the head swirly in charge, I think. I don't know that that's true, actually, like factually. I think that I am. Should we make merch? Kind of had like Jack's Taylor made number one guy in this group. Merch, we should make number one swirly in the universe group. Oh, sure. Merch alert. Not Merch alert. No, hope everybody's having a great day. I watch Dancing With The Stars. I say it's kind of all I can think about. Like, take me to Paris and dance for a baguette with me, you know? Like, I can't stop thinking about Paris baguette for by Julianne Hough. Was that in promotion? Sponsored by Paris? No, Paris baguette. It's like an obon pond. It's like a chain of like bakeries type. I think that's why I thought it was like for the new season of Emily in Paris. I didn't know why we were dancing in Paris. They had like a sponsored segment prior to that with like a shout out to our sponsor. And then Julianne choreographed a dance for Paris baguette.

2:03And it's like Paris baguette. I've only meant to one. There's like one in Times Square, but it's like an airport chain. Yes, yes. It's not like it's Paris in name only, you know? Like I don't think the Parisians claim one part of Paris baguette. I feel like Julianne was told like choreographed dance for Paris baguette. And she didn't ask any further questions. Oh, I'm actually so glad you brought that up because I saw Julianne on the dancing with the star podcast explaining the whole choreography. Ready? Okay. First of all, this was such a big deal. I didn't bring that by the way. Like you did. No, no, the choreography in Julianne. Okay. She told this insane story. I love it. So Julianne was basically saying just sort of like context. Actually, this was such an important dance for Julianne because she hasn't choreographed on. I think every dance is important for Julianne. But that's the thing. She hasn't choreographed since 2015 since she won her Emmy with Derek. Yeah. And so this was like sort of her big comeback for a sponsored thing. And so actually the choreography and just like the scene that they were setting in general was inspired by this world win evening.

3:04Julianne had in Paris with this guy. She said it was like all very PGA, but it was like this Parisian man like took her all over Paris to like the love bridge. The lock bridge. Is that who Jan Ravenick played? Yes, they shared a kiss at the end of the night. And it was like all very inspired by this sort of whimsical evening. Julianne huffed spent in Paris, sponsored by Paris Baga. And did you go out of your way to listen to the Dancing with the Stars podcast? Or how did that find you? I feel that I will not even answer such an insulting question because you know I just saw a clip on TikTok. Like no, I did not go out of my, I don't even listen to my own podcast. I don't even listen to my husband's podcast. You think I'm listening to the Dancing with the Stars podcast? After a show hosted by Andy Richter. They're operating like on all cylinders. They've got Caitlin Bristol on TikTok. They've got the Andy Richter podcast. Then they said there was some other like after show hosted by someone like it's a lot. Yeah, it is a lot, but they have so many personalities and they don't want to do with them. Like Robert Erwin standing there. It's true. It's true. It was a family affair.

4:04So I'm sure our first story is Dancing with Stars. It was actually only our last story and be like TV recap. Just for anyone who's not watching Dancing with the Stars. But as someone who used to not watch Dancing with the Stars. I just want to say like it's added a lot of joy and value into my life. I love dance actually. Like I love to dance. I love to watch dance. I love the art of dance when they did the opening number. Like that does everything for me. Yeah, and it's very rare that like shows these days really put on a production where it's like they're firing on all cylinders. Choreography, music, lights, camera, wardrobe. It's a fabulous show. And yet Jack and I are very late, very, very late. And the off chance 35 seasons. Yeah. And the off chance that you as listening like don't watch. It's just a fun addition to your weekly rotation. It's light. You see some of your faves. There's like low key drama on an offline. I'm really enjoying it. Tonight, two hour each premiere is asking a lot of me. Yeah. And it is giving like OG ABC Chris Harrison energy.

5:04But thankfully, I'm not busy this week. I'm available. Yeah. Thankfully, it's not the redheads recording this week and I have to read. I don't have plans this evening. So I'm sad Bruno really enjoyed it as well. Ben enjoyed it too. I was acted and watch with me. Ben couldn't believe how many of his friends were on it like Tyler. Tyler C. Yeah, it was sort of like a family affair. We didn't know who to post for, you know. Yeah. So, oh, you know what? Oh, wait, I guess we'll say this for the recap. But I want to just talk about it. Let's just talk about something else. It's Wednesday. It's Wednesday. We're hanging around. It's Wednesday. We're hanging around. It's gonna start. What else went down in the picture on yesterday? I'm recording a picture on yesterday that's like extremely contested. So as I just like peeped in the comments. So here's the thing. Jack and I recorded a podcast yesterday where like I genuinely had one of the most fun times of my life and I played majong with my friends yesterday and I like literally was like, you guys, you did this like amazing Patreon. You guys should do it at home with your friends where we did the 50 States Challenge.

6:05We said we were gonna do it last week. We literally were like, that's such a funny idea. So Jackie and I sat here and we tried to, and I don't want to spoil it, but like we got pretty far. And we sort of like vlog podcasted it for Patreon. People are hating it. And you know what? We are not making meaningful content if we aren't getting contested in the comments, you know? Yeah, I didn't like read the comments yesterday. I just sort of moved on with my day. As I was sitting here, like I see I have my list, I don't want to spoil it, but I have my my States right here in a list of States. I know. What did they think? What did they think? Oh my god, I'm scared away. No, here's the thing. I'm afraid I am not going to let a couple of comments get in the way of my educational and advancement. Yeah. Like how many opportunities are there as a, you know, a woman later in life to learn things I should have learned in high school. This is what I'm always saying. Yeah, so sorry, I took a minute on my Patreon to learn a little geography. And first of all, it was hilarious. I don't even know what people are talking about. I think maybe they're judging it before they listen. I would agree. Like the concept might not sound riveting, but it's never about the concept.

7:09The concept is merely a vessel, you guys. Yeah. It's a shell for us to do our thing. To break out of. I'm just, I'm feeling dancing from dancing with the stars. I know. Of course, I feel like a natural part of watching the show is like you envision like what could I do, especially with fibula up there. I'm really starting to see myself on the screen. The podcaster, it's possible. And like actually, I think there's no world in which I would ever make it past the first week. You know, it is so hard when Kanye wrapped that ever since like Trump became president. Like he could see himself being president. Do you remember that? Yeah. Ever since fibula. When I'm dancing with the stars, I can see myself on the end of the stars except for the fact that like massing or gen aflux, I'll call it has shown me that I could never. Also as an empath and a boy, Mama, I actually cannot watch the end of last night's episode.

8:10Like I was actually in physical pain. We have to stuff. Yeah, we do. What else should we talk about? What did you mean for dinner? Oh my gosh. I made tacos for everyone. Wow. And for me, I made a stuffed pepper taco because like I'm in my house in an era. For the kids, they had like tortillas, I had tortilla. And it was just so good, so hardy. You know something weird. I've never asked tell you what happened to me at dinner. Was you ever dinner? I went out. You know, it was like early and I was like let's kill some time. We went out. We'll say where we went. A great place. And like, you know, they treat you like family. What? No, and then I remember I have something to tell you. Oh, OK. So now I feel like I don't want to tell my story. Where'd you go where they treat you like family? No, it was just like a neighborhood spot. Like did you see they went to Sarafina on Somu? Of course I did at the time hotel. Yeah. That's where Taylor ordered all the desserts. But I was like finally to tell me some shine for Sarafina. No. Oh, OK, OK. I'm like, OK. I'm just thinking about like your restaurant that feel like family.

9:11Because I feel like you were trying to like give us a clue. Oh, you went to Olive Garden. Sure. Let's say for our given family. Let's say for our given family. I went to Olive Garden. And you know what? Actually, I don't want to tell the story anymore. Like it's ruined. Just tell me what you have to tell me. Guess who messaged me this morning. Oh, don't even brag. She messaged me too. Well, she messaged me. And she. Are you trying to get in touch with you? Cindy Hauffer. Cindy Hauffer. Then. Why don't you couldn't get in touch with me? She wrote me at 11 p.m. yesterday. I think that's like a normal time to respond. She couldn't get in touch with you. What did she say that? No, she said I messaged Claudia, but she doesn't follow me, so she may not see it. Oh, I follow her on TikTok. I just want to say, but I follow her back on Instagram this morning. Of course. You guys know our favorite meal prepper. Who we can't stop talking about. She wrote to me, can I just say how flattered I am to be shouted out on the toast two weeks in a row. Crying laughing so happy. Thank you. All the hype has been so nice. I love it. You guys have to follow her then Hauffer. She's seriously an inspiration. She seriously an inspiration.

10:11It makes me a mother fucking ration. I want to cook harder. No, it's a faster. No, it's a faster. No, it's a faster. It makes me want to like prepare harder. Of course. Of course. Of course. I need like plastic bins. Like that's what I've learned. Like she has such good Tupperware. If you don't have good Tupperware, you can't be like, can't think. Preparing. You can't think straights. And your cabinet of Tupperware is just like lids and bottoms that don't match. Like, it's hard. I need to like carve out a couple hours in my week. The thing is it's literally every other day at this point. I don't I feel like she's sort of out of the stage for washing berries. Because I'm always washing berries. People complain about the price of berries. Like for me, it's the washing of the berries. And yes, sometimes I like to like wash them with my fruit cleaner. Put them in the nice. Call and dirt. For cleaner is really not necessarily water. I love fruit cleaner. No, I let them soak. I want to. And that would be good if like we consume the normal amount of berries. But I would be doing that every other day. And listen, I also have to watch Dancing with the Stars.

11:13Now, let me ask the group a question. Because this is something Jack and I sort of butted heads over in the hamptons. This is I'm with you. I don't do this at home. It's like wash as I use. No, I washed from the grocery store and then I put the washed ones in the fridge. Yes, but over the summer, we were just like putting shit in the fridge. Because there was no accountability. Everyone was just like buying berries. And then if you bought the berries for the family, you're not also going to wash them. And also I wasn't always buying them. I think that if you purchase berries and you're putting them in the fridge, it is your responsibility as human being and a parent to wash them before you put them in the fridge. But the way that I wash them is like not the same as other people. Well, I think everybody has their own. My friend Margot, who hosts our maja group, she always washes her fruit. She's like a clean freak. And she washes it with vinegar. And let me tell you, sometimes those grapes taste like vinegar. It's not a perfect formula. I think water, you know, is sort of sufficient. No, I like the fruit cleaner. I like my system, but at this rate, it's so frequent. So I would love to be like Cindy and have a thing of cut and washed strawberries and everything.

12:13But I would have to quit my job. It's true. Being like a fruit provider. A toddler fruit mom is so much work. It is. But her kids are a little bit older, so I think they eat like a normal amount of fruit because they also eat veggies. Right. They eat other stuff besides fruit. Like we're exclusively eating fruit. Yeah, we're exclusively fruit. And you know, it's actually made me eat a lot more fruit. Yeah, I always saw a grape in there. I'll give a pop one in. What are your thoughts on pre-cut fruit? Necessary evil. Yeah, I feel that at one point in my life, I would have said, like, absolutely not. And I do think it's location specific. The kosher grocer here happens to have fantastic cut up fruit. Citarella, fantastic. You can't go into any old grocery store and buy their cut up fruit. No, it is. It's a Russian roulette. You cannot. It also can be a carrier of disease. And that's how they get away with giving you the fruit that's about to expire in two hours. And also the bottom of the fruit, by the peel. You get the worst parts of the fruit.

13:13So you have to use your judgment. I would say it's not a cure all, but if you have people coming over in the next hour, and the fruit's not going to go bad before they get here, sure. But you got to spring for the expensive grocery store in my opinion. Yeah, you've got to really take a good hard look at it. And it's all about the eye, you know? This is just circling the drain to talk about dancing with the stars. I think we should push objects with the stars to the first story, just so we don't keep, like, waiting into that topic. Okay, but even though, like, once I'm on on subjects, I could stay on subject. Are there other, like, major subjects worth discussing today? Like still a cheer in Michael Morgan. Oh, yeah. It's like devolving. Yeah, oh, it's like kind of just, like, random story. Like ruining Ed Sheeran's career. I know. It's crazy how, you know, a decade of fame, goodwill, music can be over in an afternoon. It's just sort of beautiful to see. Well, I would wonder how the man on the street feels, because I know how I feel. I know how Michael Morgan feels.

14:13And Michael Morgan feels. And, you know, how finniest feels and the bots in the comments. But like, the average person. The average ticket holder. And I feel like an average person goes to an Ed Sheeran concept. Like, who really, as it makes the war in Israel, their personality, like, what do you think about it? Yeah, will this affect streams, sales, tickets? Yeah. So that's what I really want to know. Because I feel like I'm only hearing from like, two sides. The frankly online. But that's not everyone that's actually not even most people. So true. Like those who touch grass, what do you think? No, not even about being online versus being offline. Just being like so in this conflict. Not everyone is living in the Middle East right now. Like mentally. No, it's true. So I would like to hear from those people who are just like the passive Ed Sheeran fans. Like, does this change anything for you? Sound off in the comments. You know, because I'm not convinced that it's like so bad for Ed Sheeran. It'll be bad for him, like, in the industry and amongst his friends.

15:13And like, parties and everything. Right. But amongst him, he has so many fans. Like, does this actually change anything? I don't know. And outside of that. Other stories are. Are good. They came together. And I just don't feel like anything happened yesterday. They came together in a natural way. No, I could I would say there is. There's what to discuss. Like, don't worry, Koji. Don't worry. I do worry. I do. Don't worry, Koji. We'll keep your secret. And what is my secret? I was just about to ask you. What do you think is like, well, I can't say that. Because it's my secret. But let me think. Like, what is it? What are the toasters sort of to keep? Do you have any secrets? What was that segment we were going to start? Oh, cordon is truth. Where you tell us the truth. Oh, was that a segment we were going to start? It's not amazing. And I just like share our truth of the day. Yeah. And it's like in order for the segment to like have legs, it can be any truth about anything. It doesn't just have to be your truth. It can be like a hot take. Yeah. Okay. My pants are unzipped. That is my current truth.

16:13And so I'm just like being very particular about the placement of my cardigan. When I sit down in pants, like, I just don't feel it's necessary that the closure stays closed. And that's my, that's how KojiRner sees it. And that's another segment. How Koji sees it. I can't wait for Jane Lynch to be in the Friends and Family audience for Harry Shum Jr. Yes. And we'll see. And that's you. So, I'm going to start with the next segment. I'm going to start with the next segment. And we'll see. And like, stop saying he's a Grey's Anatomy actor. They keep trying, they don't want to say Glee because it's just so obviously he's a dancer because he was the dance. He was a choreographer. So they keep saying like, Grey's Anatomy actor. That's not it. And it's not because Grey's Anatomy has been on for 25 years in the tech chick on ABC and it's all in the family. And Glee was what, like, how many years? It was six. Yeah. Five or six seasons. Just bringing some of my joggers. Joggers. Oh, I saw Nini Leaks getting TMZ on the street being asked about KJ beer men.

17:13Like, she has the cleaved legs out of it. That's so unfair to ask. No, but she's like, she's having Kim's back. Well, she was, I feel really walking a tightrope. I don't think she said anything pro or against. She said that she had spoken to Kim briefly via text. And she doesn't know what she's going to do. She's going to be a bit more likely to be a text. And she doesn't know how she's doing, but I'm sure she's doing on well is what she said. And then she also said, you know, we all parent differently. Which is like, can mean anything. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, I didn't choose X. I don't want to talk about the story again, unless we have to. I know. And we will talk about it again, because we're not going to let it slide, but not extremely. No, there aren't any official updates in that disgusting story. Yeah. And the last five non disgusting stories that you do need to know. And the fast five stories that you do need to know are brought to you by Macy's. The 90s are actually considered retro now.

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24:19It was just because of that was what we wanted to talk about when we were... I'll do my best. When we were unscripted, you know. I'll do my best. Just because like not everyone watches, you know. Yeah. And she really... But like they do. As Alfonso said, last night they broke the record, doubling in votes even though the website was down. Sure. Sure Alfonso. Sure Alfonso. Ed Sheeran addresses Maclmore's firing from Tor over his speech backlash. So Ed Sheeran posted Instagram... No tab statement. No tab statement. No tab statement. Multi-slide, you know. We had to get... They worked by the way. This saga is obviously interesting. But I am at my limit with reading people's notes app... ...apology statements in a carousel. Like it's a lot of reading. And the font is getting smaller. So true. He said, I'm appalled by the conflict between Israel and Palestine. That's a really hot take. Like... I think that he's so brave for saying that. Because no one's saying that, you know.

25:20No one would say that. And I know he's wanted to like avoid kind of putting himself in the middle of the controversy. But I think to say something so unique. So polarizing. Brave and polarizing, he should be commended for. The suffering and pain caused on both sides is a human tragedy. There are too many... Okay, okay, both sides. Like... There are too many wars across the world causing a measurable pain. None of the things should be tolerated. He's like, okay, so to be clear, he is a genced war. Okay. Macklemore asked to join my team. Breaking news. Oh, did you feel like this? T. I was a little shady. Macklemore asked to join my team. I was a little asked here. And I agreed because I respect him as an artist. So that's how... Macklemore came to my house with a gun and said, I want to be on tour with you. Is that how easy it is to open for the biggest touring act in the country? Now you just have to ask. Taylor, please, I would like to open for you.

26:23Let me know. Car responses from Tirty. He said as with all my support acts, I agree that they play a set list of their choosing. After Macklemore's performances at my New Jersey show, venues on my upcoming tour dates communicated that they would pull the shows if he was still supporting. I was informed that the stance was based on how Macklemore conveyed part of his message during his performance, rather than on everything that was said. I spoke with the venues at length. He's speaking so vaguely. Like, I don't even know what I was talking about. But I do like he is trying to like, prop a couple of flares of things that we should know. Like, first Macklemore asks him to be on tour. To that, it wasn't every... Nobody cares about your opinion in general. It was the way that you said things, which is the reason why you're getting thrown off the tour. I spoke with the venues at length all week and tried to build a bridge. One of those people was grabbered craft. Again, another flare. One of those people was grabbered craft. Not the only person. Right, right. He's just one of the most high profile stadium owner. I was also involved in direct talks with promoters along with activists on both sides to try and find a mutual resolution for all,

27:24but the venues and promoters' decision was final. Macklemore, coming off the tour, was the promoters' decision. It was not mine. I love that. Throw the promoters under the bus. Because who are you? Because nature was happy to do nothing. Like, it was happening. Who are these faceless promoters? Get up. You know? So we need like an entity that we can everybody can blame so that we can move on. Good strategy. It's crazy that he's not like hiding it better and like trying to be accountable. He's like, this was not me. That was me. I don't control anything in my life. I have no opinions. I have no stance. He said, Macklemore's contract for the tour was with the promoter. Not me. I would never let down the fans who had made plans. Nor would I have been in the touring crew and the other support ex-musicians who rely on me for work and to make a living. I've always used my platform and music to bring people from all backgrounds and cultures together. And this will never change. Those who have been to one of my shows will know that they are about unity, joy, escapism, love, and a place for everyone to feel welcome. Like I do actually, even though yesterday I said like a share in his spine list and I stand by all that. Like I do actually feel bad for him because this is a person who like genuinely went out of his way.

28:26He's not ever like historically spoken on this conflict. And like we said yesterday, if you don't want to get involved in this really Palestinian conflict, I do feel that that is your right. It is. It means don't deeply complicated. And you know what? I can understand like not wanting to have a take on it. Honestly, I can't. So I feel that he went so far in his way, even though like selecting Mac Amor is such a choice. Of course. That like it almost feels like, you know, I feel that this is a person who really goes out of their way to stay out of it. And is at the center of like genuinely one of like the most historically, hotly contested conflicts in global history. So like I would have, you know, more understanding for him and ever understanding. Except for the fact that he chose or agreed to have Mac Amor open for him. Like this is Mac Amor's whole thing now. Does he even sing anymore? He just goes up there and rants and raves in his cafe. I don't think so. I don't think he releases new music. So yes, it's such a choice. And you know what? Like that.

29:26This is sort of what you get when you hire someone like that. So it's unfortunate. I guess he's also saying maybe like he didn't hire. Yeah, he's like trying to voice. He said, I didn't hire. He said, I am not complicit. I have my personal views on the devastating conflict just because I choose not to speak publicly. It doesn't mean I don't have them and it doesn't mean I don't care. Nor does it mean I don't support causes in my own personal way, which I just think as a statement. Take out whatever we're talking about. I think is a solid statement. I think that you can care about things and not have them be a part of your public persona. A thousand percent. You don't have to say that. A thousand percent. He said, a thousand percent. The reason I do not use my professional platform for politics, my audience includes young people, often children, of all backgrounds. Those who come to my shows do not expect a political forum. I respect Mackelmore's strength of purpose to stand up and shout for what he believes. However, there's room for multiple approaches to the same end. Peace. I choose to use my fame and platform to be a place of safety in Sanctuary to maintain diplomacy and keep conversations open, not closed. If we only focus on shouting the loudest, nothing will ever change.

30:26There are different approaches to being an advocate for change. It's not a bad statement. It's too long and I can't lie. I didn't even get to the end by the time you just read. That's like the first time I've heard it. This then started a domino effect of other people who are involved in the tour in big and small ways, releasing their own notes app carousel statement and dropping out as well. Yes. Phineas has been heard from. He will be dropping out of the shows that he was meant to open. I'm very happy for all those who are set to be in attendance. I feel that net net less shows where Phineas is on stage and Malcolm or as well. I'm personally very pleased. Phineas is probably my biggest op in the industry. This is not surprising to hear that he is like a long, very public history of being just blatantly anti-Semitic. This does not shock me and I think that like the less work there is for Phineas to do the better. Lucas Graham has also dropped out. What is he saying? I have him in my like like song somewhere.

31:29Let me search my like songs. And then also like the band Aaron Row. Not familiar. Lucas Graham. He's things you're not there. And then he also things. What do you think of with Lauren Alina? Be sure he doesn't sing seven years old. Oh, it's not on my like songs. But yeah, you know, that's neither here nor there. Yeah, yeah. I just want to know like what I know him from. Do you think Lauren Alina is going to make a statement? I don't. I don't think she should. Yes, seven years. And love someone in Mama said. Seven years. Mama said that feels like. Mama said there'd be days like this. That's the one. That's the best song ever. And then also I think like what shook people was that like the band. Is that Aaron Row? I don't know, but like I guess like the people who play the instruments for Ed Sheeran. I think that might be a band. Devastating. They play the instruments for Ed Sheeran. Right. That's what I'm saying. So like the infrastructure of the show is now like compromise. It's not just the opening acts because the thing is while you know I there's sort of this necessary thing.

32:34We are okay if there are no openers. But if there's no band at the Ed Sheeran show. Just edit his guitar, which I just want to say the last time I went to an Ed Sheeran concert. It was literally just. I don't think they can find musicians. Oh, so the band is Boiga there. His back. He man they share that they stood against the silencing of Macklemore by Zionist lobbyists. No, it's just. Just say Jews just say Jews. Zionist lobbyists. Yeah. I felt that that made their intentions quite clear when they use that phrase. I mean everyone's intentions are quite clear. And this is just it's so funny. You just never know like what's going to be what's going to right. Is Ed Sheeran going to continue to do the shows? I mean he has to. First of all like this will blow over. These are huge shows. This is so much money. This is hundreds of millions of dollars. Like and it's not just him. And this is what he was trying to say. Like sure he could have kept Macklemore on to prove a point and stick it to the man. But then okay your shows get cut in half. Say that's crew band lighting craft services.

33:37Everybody. Pretty. Out of the paycheck. Like people rely on him to work and he has to make like sound decisions as a boss. Yeah. Yeah. No, I feel that. Feel that. And no, but I'm saying like. Like when you think of Ed Sheeran it's like well he makes every decision and he makes every dollar. And it's like it's really not how it works. But people forget that. Like we always say that cast and crew. But cast and crew. No, I think like hundreds of people work on a stadium. Yeah. And they're not just the openers and the people whose name you know. I was a building on going. I went to an Ed Sheeran concert once and I have to tell you like it was genuinely unenjoyable. He like does this thing where he like loops his own guitar. That's how surprised like his backing band. Dropped out. I'm telling you there was not one other human being on stage the entire time at MetLife Stadium. I'm like sorry you're going to need a little bit more pizzazz. Then you need a little guitar and you're like foot pedal sir. So I remain unaffected by this like the people I hated.

34:37Phineas like I hate them still like nothing's really changed for me. Not to center myself in the conflict of course but I'm doing fine. I figured I wonder who will open for him because on the one hand it's like no one touched us with a 10 foot pole. But on the other hand like this could be a huge opportunity for a virgin artist. Yeah, but it's a huge opportunity to like kind of step in it. Like there is no winning gear honestly. Yeah, I don't know. I'll be interested to see who does it. And I will have mad respect. Or maybe he just goes no openers. But you don't even think there's someone whose name we don't even know who'd want to open for him. You know what I mean? Like there is someone out there who wants their shot enough to open for him. Of course does that service Ed Sheeran in any way? Well it's like this red person of the street. You have to you can't just like start to show at 9 p.m. I mean like I guess you can. And I don't know if there are any Zionist artists out there who'd love to.

35:37But I don't even think he would have one. Okay, I will do it. I think he doesn't want anyone. No, of course, solarizing whatsoever. But I could see him having ready like an Israeli artist and a Palestinian artist like sharing this stage together. That actually would be like a decent solve. I just want to say it would be Matis Yaho. No, there's definitely like a band. I feel like I've heard of like a band that's like Israeli, but it's like mixed. Oh my god. No, no, no, no, not having Israel like two people to go up there and fight like there is like a band that already exists. It already exists. It's like mixed artists. Oh, so sign them up. Sign them up. Yeah. Or cancel the tour. Like. So he's not going to cancel the tour. Yeah, it's too many. Well, selfishly, I'm sure he makes a lot of money, but also like other people too. He doesn't even like need money. He doesn't have a phone, but it's other people like that would be so immature.

36:38So true. He likes an upper phone. Power through. You can do this. It will blow over. But people can do hard then. And it's like, oh, he's in a rough spot. And I feel for him. Like there's no right move to make at this point, but like you literally allowed Malcolm or to be your opener when he brings absolutely nothing to your point. And then, like, you know, the first thing I want to do is go to the program except for divisiveness controversy. If you can't handle the heat and political agenda, like, so I don't feel bad for what were you thinking? I know. What we want to be this person, like, you really want to be this and it's hard to be this person. It's really hard. It is borderline. Look, I think this is proof that it's literally impossible to be this person who's totally like everyone can come to my show. I'm not divisive. I won't say X, Y or Z. It's literally impossible. Who are we just saying? And it's easy. It's possible and it's easier when you don't choose Malcolm or to be your opener. Well, of course, if you can't handle the heat, Ed, stay away from Malcolm or like I said, Alex Warren. Take one look at you.

37:39You dig in me out. Wouldn't he be a great opener for Ed Sheeran? Of course. He's kind of like Gen Z Ed Sheeran. And I would go. But like, does Alex Warren want to be a part of this? Who would genuinely willingly want to be a part of us? Who wants to be famous badly enough? Brooks and Ader. Me. No, you're an arpanator. The Nader Sisters would do it. Oh, like a little dancing troupe. Yeah. Love that. So we'll see what's next. Yeah. But I do think there's people that would do it. Yeah. And they should. Or if those, like, I don't know if those are the people that Ed wants. But I guess at this point, like, what does that thing they say about beggars? I'm saying not even like, you know, some Zionist artist. No, no. I'm saying like. But just like someone who doesn't care enough about the conflict to take a stand and could use the eyeballs. Yeah. It just sounds like we're picking up random people off the street. Like, no, like, you know, some like a hot new artist on Spotify or whatever.

38:40Yeah. Our next story, Melissa McCarthy and Clive Owen are the spitting image of John Bonet Ramsey's parents in a first photo from a new Netflix drama. So I didn't know this was happening. But Netflix has released the first photo from the hotly anticipated new series, The Murder of John Bonet Ramsey. In the photo, Melissa McCarthy and Clive Owen are in character as Patsy and John Bonet Ramsey, John Bonet's parents. According to Netflix, the show will be a dramatization of one of the most infamous unsolved murder cases in American history and will also cover the devastating personal and public reckoning that followed the death of John Bonet Ramsey. The cast also includes Garrett Headland, Alison. You're kidding. Alison Pills. She's from the Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen, right? Who does she play with? I think she plays Ella. I think she plays Ella. Oh, you're kidding. And Chris Bauer, they are cops investigating the crime. Who plays the brother? I don't know who plays the brother. Burke.

39:40Oh, my God. I didn't realize Garrett Headland went like this. Sorry, I'm just taking a minute to process like my boyfriend getting acting gigs. Love that. I also did not know this was happening. I wonder sort of what take they're going to put on it because there's, this is an unsolved mystery. There's lots of theories, you know, it was the brother, you know, you know, you know, I wonder like what theory they're putting their right behind. They're going to put forth. But for Melissa, she said she loves Patsy. She thinks the show is doing a really great version of the story. She said, I hope we're giving the family their humanity as well as telling the story, noting that she thinks speculating that they can't be the right person. She thinks speculating that they killed their own daughter is a blood sport. So we know where she stands. There's right a prevailing theory that conspiracy theorists have is that it was the brother. Yes, that's what I've heard over the years. But in 2019, the brother settled a $750 million defamation lawsuit against CBS after they aired a television series called The Case of John May Ramsey and suggested he was the culprit.

40:40Oh, Slay Mama, you don't sue if you have someone to hide. Yeah, so I don't know. I feel like, and that's just like an easy thing. I think people just want to know who did it. And it's like, oh, there was an older brother in the house. No, and it's seriously so fucked up. It's like similar to how people just say it's Patrick Lansy because they feel like it and it's convenient for their agenda to say that. That's a legit person. And like who lost his three kids? This is someone who lost his sister. Like fuck off. No, and it's like people are so nuts. Seriously, I'm so nervous. It's a true crime. It's hard enough for the parents to contend with their daughter's murder. And then publicly. Also to be accused of being a part of it or that their son is being accused, it just gets worse and worse. So I think it's time for a human take on this. I know that there's so much, there's podcasts, there's DocuSeries. This is seriously one of the hottest cases in the country of all time. Of all time. Top five of all time. But like, I feel like it's never really told in a way that's not salacious. Yeah, or like theorizing.

41:41Yeah. In a way that's just like sad. It's because it's such it's like almost like a trope now, but it is so sad. Yeah. Like at its core. Yeah. Is Jaminay like going to be in it or is she missing the whole time? Like is there an actress playing Jaminay? Unclear. Got it. We only got this one photo. And yeah. And they just sort of dropped it randomly. Like I had no idea this was happening. And they look great in character. Yeah, they do. So I'm looking forward to this. At what point do you think we'll see like a dramatized version of Lindsay Clancy? Like in the immediate future or like down the line? I mean, it's so inappropriate. People do, they turn it around too quickly these days because I think we could get like a bunch of like DocuSeries's for a while. And then a dramatized version, but I don't think it will be any good. Yeah, it's also too hot right now. Yeah. And yeah. It's just what it's too polarizing like what's cider going to come at it from. Yeah.

42:41So I don't think anyone should do that, but someone will because people are really interested in the subject. Yeah. And there's sort of like no line people won't cross when it comes to this case. I'm sure you've seen the juror spoke to like a random YouTube channel. He did not want his voice recorded or his face recorded. So this has been a nightmare. And his family can't leave the house and he's just like wants to be left the fuck alone. Nightmare. Yeah. Yeah. That juror. Real. Then and everyone's side. And I do like respect his sort of insistence on keeping his identity and whatever. And I think that's the way I would pay probably an unlimited amount of money to watch like a sit down interview with him with somebody just like normal and completely unbiased. Like I kind of like need to know what because you know we've heard the version from a lot of the other jurors, but they all say the same thing and it's sort of like group think at that point. What does his lone wolf say?

43:41I know this thing is if he came out and started telling his story, then you could make the argument that he did hold out to be the number one guy in that group, you know, his intention. No, the fact that he hasn't. His intention seemed very pure, you know, that was a person. I've read like a little bit about him, but there's not that much known about him. And there's a lot of things. You told me that I said, yes, I said, yes, right, that I heard he was gay. I don't know that that's true, but then also that he had an ex wife. So like seriously, and you heard that there was like a rest or something, but it was like an out there were charges. But it was an allegation that was dropped. Then I heard. Listen, I didn't read the core filings because I have a job, but I didn't make that up like no, no, you're saying the streets are saying the people who are like against it. They're saying he's a woman beater. You read it somewhere, but or heard it somewhere on tiktok, but that doesn't mean that it's true. So there's no, but there is there is like a police. There's like a record that they had the police called, I think that they had to leave me out of this.

44:44But having the police calls is different than like having a record. Well, I think that also makes sense as to why he was able to be a juror because he doesn't have a criminal record. Yeah, but you can be a juror with a criminal record. Correct. Okay, you know, because you there are things that you can't do with a criminal record, but I've never heard being a juror is one of those things. You just might get dismissed. Right. If you have like a relevant relevant criminal background, I'll ask chat. I was just about to be a juror if you have a criminal record question mark. I feel like no. Yes, potentially having a criminal record does not automatically prevent you from serving on a jury, but the rules depend on the state. And on whether the conviction was a felony or mismeanor. And I guess also if it's relevant, like if you were arrested for domestic violence and you're sitting on the domestic violence trial. Of course. Of course. That's going to be a no. Are you ready for an next story? Mm-hmm. Dakota Johnson and machine gun Kelly were spotted together in New York City as they escaped to Taylor Swift's apartment on Daytona.

45:49What? Dakota Johnson and machine gun Kelly turned to Taylor Swift to help with a little seclusion during their recent night out in New York City. A source told Page Six Taylor has let her friends use her New York City properties before and Dakota and Colson wanted privacy. So they headed to her apartment. They were both. I mean, they're not like that famous that they can't get privacy anywhere but Taylor Swift's apartment. They were both spotted at her Tribeca apartment Friday night before heading to Estella for dinner. I'm so over machine gun Kelly. And to be honest, like I am side eyeing Dakota Johnson. What is she doing? I feel that up until recently she's had a pretty good like track record. Obviously Chris Martin's a great get even the whole role model thing. Like I understand a little fling with a younger man. He's cute. He's funny. I've seen him on therapist. Like he's got a personality. I mean, I really am not into like this at all. This seems like a bad choice for her. He seems so toxic. That was in percent. I'm sorry. Like when you have a didn't have a baby him in the Megan Fox. Yeah. And then like you are no longer with your mother, baby's mother like a month after birth.

46:50Like I just think that that's sinister behavior. Yeah, for sure. Like how I feel about Pete Davidson. Like I'm sorry. I think there's something weird about like a man either you're the worst fucking partner ever. Or you left like at least if she brought up with you. It's like what does that say about you if you broke up with her. What does that say about you? Yeah. So I don't know he gives me like extremely bad vibes. Maybe at one point like I definitely thought he was cute and I love that song bloody Valentine. But like for me the shine has worn off and like to me he just seems you're right toxic. I don't like toxicity. Me neither. I know that's like a hot chain. I'm also against crime. But also but like I feel like I know when on its face like toxicity. But people like tolerate it. Some people think it's like hot and they don't know how to like. Some people are attracted to it. They don't know how to be in a relationship without it sort of like keeps things hot and fresh. Taylor Frankie Paul. She's an extreme case. But I think some people like a little bit of toxicity or someone's like too nice. They like get bored. So sometimes tolerance for toxicity. If you even like makes like an act that suggests you could have potential toxicity.

47:53Like I'm running for you. What are you doing? If you tell like a weird lie or like I just I completely agree. Trying to mess with me like I find it so off putting it's like I have to wear a business. I have like a lot of things to I can't deal with you too. Yeah. So just know I'm against toxicity. Thanks for clearing that up. And I want world peace. Of course and harsher punishment for parole violators. Three very hot takes. Yeah. So they're saying they're into each other yada yada people were sort of quaking about this. They were mad that we didn't talk about it on Monday. But yeah, it was sort of like Wednesday news. Oh, it was a it's this is so not Monday worthy. No, no, especially after like a lot happened over the weekend. Yeah. Like I met Alex Earl like we're not talking about machine gun and Taylor Swift went to the chiefs game. I do find it weird that like Taylor would allow this. But I guess she's like that's a good friend, you know, like just what are you doing at her apartment with her not there? Like no, I don't know. I think it's weird. Like yes, she has a history of like lending her real estate.

48:55But like in dire circumstances, like so return or of course, this is not dire. Like first of all, there's so many private members clubs like the celebrity's get so much privacy in New York. I actually think going to Taylor Swift's apartment where you know there's like a media tent. Pretty much permanently parked is giving we don't want privacy. Were they pretty gaming? I don't know what the fuck they were doing. Just go to the restaurant. Have you been to that restaurant, Estella? No. Have you heard of it? No. I'm so out of the loop. I wonder what's the cuisine? I'm going to guess Greek. I'm going to guess Italian. Yeah, I guess that's a better guess. Like Estella. Estella. One of the most celebrated restaurants in the United States. It's an intimate downtown bistro. That can be experienced in many ways, whether it's a thrilling dinner in the dining room. Just tell us what cuisine it is. What cuisine it is? bistro is giving French. Okay. I can menus. Oh, dinner menu, dinner. I can't live it doesn't say like in the bio with the cuisine. No, it doesn't. Like there's steak, there's H duck, pork collar.

49:58It's French. Yeah. Lobster with cabbage. bistro is so French. But then it's fried our rose. Oh, pioca and a rose. Yeah. And then it also. That's Latin. It says hamone eberico. Just put your phone away. Just don't. I would say it's a global fusion. I don't think you would like it. I don't think I would like anything that you could order. Let me try and find something you would like. Do they have macro? They have macro. What's that? Macro? I think it's a fish. They have golden tilefish. Not kosher tilefish. But there's that one thing that you would eat here. There's a pasta. No, I don't see pasta. Is there kids menu? There's ricotta dumplings with mushrooms and pecorino. Ricotta. I love ricotta and dumplings.

50:58Actually, there may be my favorite dish I've ever eaten. Ricotta. Oh, my God. This is a crazy menu. Yeah. That's why they went to Taylor show department to get something to eat after because the meal was so. 1000% because they didn't like their... No, Taylor has good snacks. They didn't like their beef tartar. And there's literally like 15 things on the menu period. It's like a one sheet. Oh, I hate that. And it's not even like appetizers on trays. It's just like 15 items. You know a menu is good. When it's not appetizer on trays, it's pre-misecone day. I love pre-misecone day. I love pre-misecone day. Yeah. And then antiposti is always there. I get a lot of pre-mise. Sometimes I don't even make it to secondi. Oh, I am like secondi-heavy. Call me secondi-heavy. I know. You skip out on pre-misecone. I skip out on pre-misecone because I'm secondi-weaver. Like, I love secondi. It's like, always like a chicken par. I love secondi. And ricotta, of course.

51:59So, how did you pronounce it? Ricotta. Ricotta. Ricotta for decotta. Literally, Gianna Delaventis is rolling over in her ballroom dance. Decotta ordered the ricotta. That's beautiful. What do you think they ordered? Tylefish? I have no idea. Like, I don't know these two at all. He definitely ordered beef tartar. Yeah. Did they have like a filet mignon or like a shesave? They had a wagyu beef. Yeah. Yeah, I think they got that. Yeah. Raw. Yeah. Raw. Raw. Raw. I mean, right now you kind of have to go there. Sorry. Okay, patron. patron. We're going to. What was the call this Stella? Stella. Where is it? In Tribeca, I think, right, by Taylor Swips. Oh, right. Okay. So, Stella, I'll see if I can get a rest even though after this episode, I'll probably get a permanent ban. Yeah, only chairs do not look comfortable. Oh, I'm used to it. Oh, it's in Olyda. Okay, no, Lida.

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59:11It is called as one. It's a boy band. So cute. And honestly, I think this is the solution for Ed Sheeran. I know nobody listens to the show and nobody takes our ideas seriously. But we've got to get this concept to Ed Sheeran. Because seriously, what could anyone say to any of these people if this is what he did? Now let's hope they're good. I haven't listened. It actually does it matter. And maybe they could get Ed's, you know, production team to help them. They could get better. They could get better. They could get better. And I don't want to help Ed Sheeran because I think he made this mess himself. I'm so sure. Clean it up. But unfortunately, like, the solution has come to me. And I have to share it just to help you out. Yeah. What are they called as one as one as one? A S one, oh, any. As you know, the name sort of the name needs work. But we'll get there. I think the name is okay because you know, it explains that we are as one. I hope they're available because like there's genuinely only one solution to this problem. And we've just figured that there's only one solution as one.

1:00:11The as one solution. As one incorporated. I need to listen to them when they show us over. Yeah. Hopefully they're good. Like, do they, oh, they literally need to be decent. But like they look like a boy band, you know, like, And by the way, do not even start. I'm not getting demonetized for as we on. No, I'm not going to lose it all for as one. I agree. We have Bill Spam. Yeah. It sounds familiar. I feel like I've heard about them. Very interesting. Yeah. Very interesting. I know me too. I don't know where I heard about them or this idea came to me. But I feel like I saw them. Not them. And they dream. Our fourth story. Amanda Saferead and Thomas Sadozki have split after nine years of marriage. Amanda Saferead affectionately known as Minji. And Thomas. How do you remember that? Your brain is like so good. I just knew when I like chose a story about her, you're going to be like Minji. I wasn't going to because I forgot like if you were, if we were doing trivia and it was like,

1:01:12what is a minus key for its like a no I Instagram handle. I might have said like. Minki not even like I wouldn't have gotten that close. Oh, okay. Well, you could say my brain's really good. I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, oh, okay. Well, you could say my brain's really good, but I don't have to spoil anything. You should watch a picture on yesterday. Yeah, not to spoil anything because my, if your brain's good, what does that make me great? The actors confirm they're splitting the joint statement exclusively. The people say that they have been separated for a while and that the decision has ultimately been the right one for their family. We've been separated for a while and it's proven to be the right move for us in our family unit. We've got each other and it's good. G-O-O-D capitalized. I actually have some insider tea because I heard that they've been on the rocks for a while ever since she publicly attacked Ariel Charnas. He sort of saw something in her that he didn't like and he's been sort of planning his escape ever since. That's what I heard. Do you think that's her words defense? Alleged. Do you think that's her words defense?

1:02:12What were we just, what were we, something was bad for her? Minji, she did something weird on Instagram again, which is why we brought up the Ariel Charnas thing again. No, and I feel like we got to a place of like hatred, but yeah, what did she do recently? Looking up like the toast Amanda, say, freed in the podcast app. Because we were saying Minji again recently. I meant she did press for the housemaid. She was definitely being weird. Oh, yeah, wait, yeah. It was during the housemaid era. I don't know if I'm going to get it. Guys, you guys remember, you guys know us better than we know ourselves. It's true. We were recently like railing on her Instagram. Yeah, she definitely makes sense of something. It's less you. Thank you. I never watched housemaid, but I shouldn't. I know it was like all my list of movies and I watched all the everything on the list. I wanted to watch Marty's Supreme. And the thing is, anytime I get to doing that list, it's when Ben's not home. And I'm about watching a spooky movie when Ben's not home.

1:03:14Yeah, but like you know, you know the twist. So that should help. Also, shout out to Shannon Ford who texted me not to continue watching Furious because it's about child pornography. Like, I'm good. Thank you. Jesus. Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth metal story dance in the stars recap? Wait, what was the story? Oh, no, but you know what that did remind me of. I wanted to say something from the Emmys that I had no idea what's happening. It was really cute. So, Kelly Cuoco is like married to some actor. She's pregnant as hell. I just saw a photo of her, like literally during that ad break, pregnant on the red carpet. And I need that dress with her guy and her guy one. And he gave such a speech like to her. First of all, he was like before he got out there, how people thank God. He was like, I am here because of my sobriety. Like, it was so it was so honest. And then he was like, Kelly Cuoco, you are the crown jewel of my life. Matilda, I guess is their other daughter. I love you. The baby in that belly. I love you. It was so, that's so cute. It was so beautiful to see a man be like so unabashedly in love. And just like happy with his family.

1:04:14His family was his whole speech. I was like, who is this guy? She got some guy. Like he's hot. He's an actor. He won an Emmy. And he loves her. Oh my God. It was just like when he won, he got up and hugged her and kissed her so hard. I was like, who the fuck is this guy? But his name was like Tom Calicchio or something. No, Tom Kearney. Tom Pellfree. That's exactly what I said. It wasn't there like drama with her with her last divorce. Or whatever. She married during tweeting. Yes, during like, you know, her big bang million dollar episode. She is rich. Yes. I think he was also wealthy. If I remember, he was like an, an heir, like kind of like a nepot baby. Oh. Yeah, there was drama financial. And then there was another marriage. And then there was Tom. And I think that's the end of it. She's sort of one to watch. Yeah, yeah. And it's nice to see like a woman move. She's so financially independent.

1:05:15Like she's never going to meet anyone who's rich as her. Like she's so rich. It actually, they're not married. Her and Tom. Oh. Okay. I don't judge. No, not at all. But like, just interesting. I haven't been paying attention. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, either. I was like, I didn't recognize her first. I'm like, oh, who's his wife? I literally just saw her just. And I was like, I need that dress. It was really cute. It was Christian Seriano Costa with like cutouts for the preckers. Yeah, really cute. Okay. Now are you ready for our fifth and final story dance with the stars? We got. Let me grab my Paris baguette. Hang on. Today's episode is brought to you by Paris baguette. Goals dancing with the stars season premiere voting crashes on night one as host announced that they are throwing out online votes because they couldn't get ABC dot com to work. Last night, the men danced on dancing with the stars. And we had an elimination, which I didn't know that was happening. I know. And I was glad because I do think a lot of the times they don't eliminate enough people quickly. Sorry, this is a competition. Maybe it's because I liked the person who went home.

1:06:16I felt that it was me and like to make. Like the whole like it's just I felt sad. So let's go through in order of the the dances. What are thoughts were and then we'll talk about the elimination. Okay. I don't know if I'll be able to get it in order, but I'll try. Jack. I'm glad I went first. Jackson Olsen and Emma Slater. Like great. Jolly good show. Jolly good show. I liked him. I didn't really know a lot about him besides like, you know, what we discuss here on the toes. I think that he was judged like kind of harshly. I think they judge based on what they know about you. And this is a person who's like has a lot of experience performing live and dancing. So I feel like he got harshly judged because he was very fine. But at the end of the night, I had literally forgotten about him. I know, but it was like I hope he doesn't go home in hindsight. I liked his whole thing. And what's interesting that he said was he's not the best dancer on his team. You know, Savannah bananas aren't like all professional dancers. They're baseball players who like, you know, get jiggy with it. And he has a lot of learning to do, but he obviously has the spirit inside of him. And he has the heart of a showman. And being a good dancer, this is what I learned last night.

1:07:17And this is what Harry Shum Jr. was trying to say. And it's like, sir, be so fucking for real. Being a good dancer actually doesn't really help you because ballroom dance is like not dance first of all. And it's so technical. You'd actually be better off like being good at math like because all the steps and the counts and the and like having good posture. Just because you can dance like out of wedding. I don't really feel that it makes a huge difference in how you can do in the ballroom unless you don't have any rhythms. So I don't completely agree. I think when they try and like explain to us how Harry Shum Jr. is having a hard time because he said that too good of a dancer. Jackie, when he said he like his background in dance actually is a disadvantage. I was like, sir. Yeah, no, like that is a bunch of hooy. I think that yes, you still have a, even if you are like a hip hop dancer, rhythmic dancer, like a ballet dancer. You have a lot to learn still because you don't know ballroom, but you have an advantage because you are a dancer. Yeah, but I don't think Jackson really has an advantage. No, besides like being in front of people, it's very scary. Like the live show element being in front of a live audience.

1:08:17So I think that is definitely an advantage because I think some people could be really good but get so nervous that they have no experience ever dancing in front of people let alone on TV. So I think his live performance is probably his biggest advantage. Yeah, yeah, but I hate how the heart of the person, people with the same gender, Duan was like, oh, I'm at a disadvantage because I'm too good of a dancer. Like, please stop. Please. And also like it's actually insulting to our intelligence to say that. Some people like have the dancing, the talent for dance. So yes, you have a lot to learn, but if you have, and the people who don't have that are always going to be moving like a robot. And that's why I feel that Connor levied was not having a good night because I don't think he has the innate sense and ability to dance. Most of these people, most of these men did not have that innate sense. Having two people with the same name is so unfair. And actually to the point that they shouldn't have cast two conners. Whoa, 1000%. Yeah, like I think that was a mistake. It was so unfair. Like, do you know how many people probably texted Connor just, and they spelled their names differently by the O R and E R.

1:09:22So someone who probably just texted Connor with an O and it didn't count. Like, that's just not fair. Now I think they'll just do Connor. Yeah, there's no W situation because Swaiow or Connor levied was eliminated. But yeah, that's reason enough to not choose one of them this season and choose them the next season. Agreed. Like I'm sorry, we can't process all of that. It's just, it's not fair. It's the same way how like when you dance at the very end, like you have less time to give votes. True. So we have reality star Tyler Cameron with Sharna Burgess. He did really good. Yeah, Ben was like, oh, he's going to be bad. I'm like, no, no, Ben, I heard that he can dance. Yeah. And I think he is obviously has lots of room for improvement. But I think in his package, he was like being really funny and he's so handsome. So everyone's just going to love him. They are going to start the process of falling in love with him. And I saw somebody say this on the tiktok comment and it's so true. He's like, he was our generations like Rob Roush. Like reality star hotshot. And I'm looking forward to younger generation of people falling in love with the Tyler Cameron that we know and love. No, and that is what's going to happen and his dancing will improve, but he will get votes because people just like.

1:10:24And he has the baseline because people just like, and he has his existing fans, but like whenever he's on TV, people fall in love with him. And he's a fine dancer like he can get a lot better. It's not like he's starting from scratch. Yeah. Reality star Connor love it with Adele. So I'm sure you saw. But what's the same Derek have called him Dylan. Yes. Like Dylan. So fucking disrespectful. Yeah. That's really awkward. I also realize like a lot of the star power in this group is in the women. Yeah, but I guess like Tyler and Dylan are very similar names. Yeah. No, and they have similar vibes. They're like reality star. But if you think about the names, like if you know like name Barry, like if you like Margo. Yes, you will like Dylan. Yeah. If you like Tyler, you will like Dylan. Yes. Yes. So I'm going to give Grace to start. Yeah, but do better. Connor love it. And Adele, Zakeman, they went home. Adele, this was her first season. It's a pro. She won the next pro. Like I actually feel sick to my stomach. I didn't know who to feel worse for. Honestly, like so exciting for this girl.

1:11:25Like and she gets out of the first night. The thing is that nobody else should have gone home. So like it had to be him. And I almost knew it. I wasn't sure if everybody felt the same way about Guillermo as I did. So it was obviously either Guillermo or Connor. It was probably the reason that she was here. you know, doing the kids lunch, everything Connor was doing for her. And I was like, it's actually so necessary, like a young couple really balancing it and supporting each other equally. And it's over, like I'm so upset. I think I'm most upset for Adele because to win the competition and then be the first one out, like that's so rough. And you know she's being blamed. People are like, well, she had a bad choreography

1:12:25and she had to move around the dance floor enough. She didn't move from around the dance floor. Yeah. And I feel like all the other pros, like they know the set designers and they know what the show is capable of. And so they call in like, you know, what did they have Mr. Big Shot for gear? But like literally looks like 42nd Street performance on Broadway. And she just had like a screen up because she doesn't know. So the you are at a disadvantage, I felt that way about like yarn last year with Jen Affleck. Right. And that's also part of being a rookie pro is learning these things and figuring out. Because I don't feel that way about yarn anymore. He was doing all the troop dances last night. Like he's very much in the mix. Yeah. So I think there's a learning curve and that she's very much on it. We'll see how it goes for Haley Bills and Sarah Jane. But Haley has been on the show for years as a true member. So she's seen in like live. She knows the people who work on the show. Yeah, it's not that new. It's not as new. I just felt really bad for her. I feel bad for Connor, of course, because he was so excited. I feel bad for Whitney because she literally made this like her whole personality for the last two weeks. I feel so physically ill. She probably has so many more shirts that she ordered that she don't work into wear.

1:13:25Or worse. And then I was like, you know, what we shouldn't have eliminated someone on the first night. Even though I feel like they never eliminate people, it's like, let's go. But last season, they didn't eliminate someone on the first night. It was actually really nice. Yeah. And it just like makes you feel like less of a loser that if you go on the second week, like whatever, you know? And they eliminated two people in the second week to make up for the first night. But it was everyone got to dance twice. Someone's also going home tonight. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Okay. Okay. Then we had Guillermo and Whitney Carson. My, I think my favorite couple, one of the two couples that I voted for. I'm not sure if I love Guillermo more. He's obviously so lovable. But like pregnant Whitney Carson like dancing is just too much for me. Unfortunately. It's not surprising that Guillermo made it through. I think he really represents the people. Like this is so hard to do on your body. And him just talking about how he's here to lose weight. Like he's so funny. He's so real. His dance was pretty good. That's where like the expertise of being like an OG. She's won before. She really knows how to choreograph for her particular person.

1:14:28And he's obviously not an easy person to choreograph for. She's amazing. But I've got that she's pregnant. Like makes it so much better. Cause like they both need to move out a slower pace. Yep. I will be voting for them until the end of time. They are my new Andy. I actually like them more because she's pregnant. She's pregnant more than I liked Andy. Seriously to the, Guillermo to the finale one. Like seriously. I will. And I don't participate in their voting system the way they want me to. Like I'm not like giving out scores based out out of 10. Like I will send one text for the person I want. So I don't care Guillermo. And then I'm going to tease you. Who do you? Oh, I guess the next person's the other person I voted for. Who do you think it is? Um, Ezra. Ezra French. Maybe a favorite person. Oh my god. And Dingella Caragach. Ezra is not just, I don't want to do it. Oh my god. It's Julian. Okay. She was actually an Ella fucking disrespectful. And I respected that she like went back to like give him his proper, but she fucked it up again. And I was like, I'm fucking I piece of Paralympian.

1:15:30And like a decorated Paralympian. And I had no idea who he was before. Um, I was so moved by his package. And I think that like when they showed this pictures of him as a baby, like I seriously I really wasn't okay. Like, and you know, you don't think about all the challenges outside of like obviously not having a leg like of the things slipping off or not being able to go diagonal. You have to go this way. I was so moved by the package. I really was. And she didn't amazing job choreographing. Like you have to, you can't just choreograph like you have to work with people and around their challenges. I was so moved by it. Like unfortunately he's my winner. Like I thought I had all these plans. Like me and Julia Siles like, no, unfortunately Ezra is my winner. Like yeah. And that's what true inclusion looks like. Like he was operating at the same fucking level as everybody else. He danced better than the people with two legs. And honestly like it was too much. It was seriously too much for me. I was surprised. It was like, you know, in a typical Fox travel. I don't know what they tango like you walk a straight line, but like he can't walk in

1:16:33the straight line. So we're walking diagonal. And like they made it work. And like you never would have known she's an expert choreographer that she's able to like tinker to fit like his needs. But then all in all, it was a great dance. Like if he was, if he was wearing like a long pant instead of you would never know. You would never know. I'm glad that they got paired up together because I think that like someone knew like she's an expert. She's an expert. I remember her from last year like she really put Dylan Efron like she made him. She's an expert in movement. I was I was deeply, deeply moved by the whole thing. Same those were my two votes and those will continue. And I didn't know that like your leg could fall off. I know and that he's like, I'm when he was like when I moved like this, well, like I might fall. He's like, but I'm not afraid to fall. Like I don't I think he just his personality and like his resolve was so inspiring. It was a testament to the human spirit. Honestly, like it was so beautiful. Yeah. Next we have comedian and podcaster, a Conorwood Fibola and Riley Arnold.

1:17:36Okay. So I had seen a TikTok that they've been really good with their social. They're so genzy. Like and like obviously everyone's shipping them online. I thought a lot of like the judges and they're both single. I think so. I think Riley is a boyfriend, but whatever sort of like minor detail. The judges were like, oh, you guys have great chemistry. Like everyone's really I didn't see. I had seen this video of Conor posting like day one, verse day, whatever. And he improved so much when I saw the first video. I was like, oh, girl, you're going home. Like and then a few days later, I was like, oh, shit. And you know what? He did a really good job. And she's like, she's well on her way to becoming like a expert pro. I think she danced like she chooses good music. She chooses good vibes. Like I love the whole country theme. He's from Texas. It was great. Yeah. She needs like a mirror ball trophy to really cement herself. She's so new. And I think she forget that she was Harry Jousey's partner and he was like, really mean to her. What happened between them? Something happened. There was like rumors that they were dating.

1:18:36I don't know if anybody ever confirmed that, but he just like went on after to like say, really mean things about her. And she was like, I think it was her first season. She was like super young. Yeah. He's a kind of the worst. I know he's your favorite, but like, no, it's obviously not like that. It just goes anywhere. Yeah. Not anymore. Oh, really, from Let's made Harry. Like no, I would just say not my favorite anymore. I've seen too much, do you think that if he knew that his like number one fan would sort of take a step back, after Let's Mary Harry, that he wouldn't have done the show? No. He said it was the most money he ever made in the reunion was the most money he's ever made in a day. Oh my. Okay. I appreciate that sort of like transparency. Yeah, and he met his now girlfriend who he seemed as ready to visit, and I don't think he gives a damn about me. And I don't think he's like, yeah, I don't think he's trying to. Okay. trying to he was doing it for you or like older millennial moms like I don't think he's worried about our thoughts on him you know that's disgusting yeah next musician Taylor Hanson of Hanson with Brits Stewart cutie it was fine yeah I liked it I think that they won't go home as early as

1:19:38she did last year but I think like a lot of the Brit fans feel that like you know she deserved more yeah yeah my he's seven kids so cute I don't think unless the package is really stepped up like I just don't think he's gonna get a lot of votes yeah agreed yeah so but you never know because I voted for two people that were one person that I didn't know before this it's true I I did expect that I would love gear my one pregnant when they I did expect that agreed a great especially like it last year's Andy gate has any indication yeah especially we prefer an underdog like and not to be overlooked that she is pregnant correct like I am equally as obsessed with Guillermo as I am with like her dancing pregnant I know and I just know she like wanted to go home so that like she could lay and like rest her weary bones it's sorry girl you got a couple more weeks but she's also probably so happy that she doesn't have to miss out or slow down her career yeah right you know because that's always especially you're an athlete and you get pregnant like of course you think you're taking some time off I do want to say the show

1:20:42does a really good job of like letting letting the women like Sharon Burgess took off like many years to raise her son like I think that that's cool that like you're able to come back and they don't just write you off because she had a baby yeah agreed then we have Harry Shum Jr. with Jenna Johnson like obviously it was great like I was bored by how great it was you know yeah I think I wasn't really watching I think I was annoying like there was no about 9-11 I found it exciting that like when someone would start dancing I'm like this is either gonna be amazing or terrible like there was this element of mystery like there was a mystery I think this is gonna be good that's great yeah I don't know her though because she was with Corey Feldman last year and got out on night two and as this is my second season watching I'm unfamiliar with her she's Val's wife yeah she was in Eromie's world she was in Eromie's world she sort of confirmed the Tom Brady uh rumors so thank you for your service so I'm getting to know her yeah and she really looks like Jenna DeWon I was at the last one that was the last one yeah oh we also got like just a little like glimpse into the women

1:21:48to me I think that's a more interesting bunch just like celebs wise yeah but women are more interesting than men it's true and especially in dance it's so much easier for a man to to excel at this show because your job is to sort of like be invisible like and just like lift the girl like let the girl be the star so I think a lot of the dances look better when the girl is the pro it's hard when the guy is the pro disagree oh let's so yeah we've had this conversation before and you maintain that I think it's really hard for the men I think it looks like one girl's like doing the at a hundred and the guys at 10% maybe the like the difference becomes more obvious yeah but um now I think that like all the spotlight bone dance is like meant to like sort of highlight the woman I think so I wonder what it'll be with two females I'm so curious to see and they're also like of the same size for the most yes who's gonna be who I don't think you're gonna do a lot of lifts or if we're doing spinning circles around the day like who's doing the lifting I have no idea

1:22:52this was shrink the fun part of dancing with the stars obviously watching the performances but then also being an eagle-eyed viewer like seeing who's in the background because I don't know if they let normal people sit in anymore everyone in the audience Michaela was there uh Macy was there Demi May was there she wears a dress that goes on dance with the star vials was there for Tyler as his like friends and family yeah it's just like fun to and they always bring back you know like JoJo see well like family they say it's a dancing with the stars family it really I mean you can see that like Robert Rowan which is like on stage at one point yeah the voting being down like seriously it's giving low budget like I don't think a lot of people vote online I think the main thing is text message and data rates may apply I wonder what it is I think it's text because every time they promote they're like text like on TikTok and stuff it's like text what needed to one five two three yeah yeah it's such a good show tonight tonight I feel like there are also a lot of girls who did you vote for

1:23:53you didn't tell us oh of course I voted for Guillermo 10 times let me see two one five two three Guillermo Guillermo I only voted for Guillermo wow because I feel like when you vote for everyone like I wanted to vote for my friends of course I Tyler C and Connor but like when you start voting for and then I thought Ezra was great so it's like I would have actually just voted for everyone and I wanted my vote to mean something you could have just voted for four people when the pack is so many the pack is so big right now fourth to many like I like I have a champion each week like for me this week Guillermo is my winner Claudia use your voice cast your votes okay I'll make a snack and bring an elderly friend and an umbrella you never it is raining today oh you just never know oh my god I meant to tell you I just wanted to say I know everyone's been saying this but I finally tried Goop Kitchen yesterday um we ordered it for Ma Zhang Jackie it what people keep talking about I'm like how good could it be it's a restaurant and like you don't like food correct and it's goop so it's like okay I'll have a kale salad I'm good no she makes

1:24:58real food by the way I had a teriyaki bowl we got a pizza for the group someone else got a teriyaki bowl someone else got like these tofu wraps Jackie it was so sick and I think it's a ghost kitchen so I don't think you can go and sit and eat I think it's like made for delivery so it's like it was packaged perfectly they had these like cool little things so the salad dressing it was so innovative and the food I can't even I such a way to master making like a thousand videos about Goop Kitchen I'm like how can it be that good yeah it's that good like I'm having it again for lunch today so good I needed in my neighborhood yeah you do I think there's only like one in L.A. and then one here um I need them to start franchising like nationwide because you guys need Goop Kitchen in your life and it's crazy because like I thought it would seriously be like Gwyneth like we're having air for lunch right no we're having rice and it's like just rice like it's not you know made of mushrooms like it's rice it's a rose a rose it's brown rice yeah I can't believe this that was just an hour and a half I know and like we've been doing that a lot recently sorry our episodes have been coming out a little bit later but um we have a lot of feelings just it takes

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