Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein's And The Devastating Effects Of His Abuse (9/9/26)

0:00Tonight we have an article from the Daily Mail and it has to do with a girl who overdosed on heroin after being one of Jeffrey Epstein's abuse victims. Now I talk about this quite a bit on the podcast about the girls that we've never heard about, the unnamed girls, the ones that have been abused by Epstein and his ring and they haven't been in the public eye. They might not have been part of a lawsuit or they've chosen to remain in the background for whatever reason or they might have settled out of court with Jeffrey Epstein or it might have just been somebody who is slipped through the cracks. Well, in tonight's article we're going to hear from this girl's twin sister and the family and how the abuse at the hands of Jeffrey Epstein led directly to her spiraling out of control. We know it's more prevalent than we've heard.

1:00There's definitely more cases like this out there of girls who were caught up in Jeffrey Epstein's web and who were abused and who were trafficked by him to his rich, famous friends and abused by him himself. These are the girls that they have not come forward for whatever reason or they've just slipped through the cracks or whatever the reason may be. We know that there has to be a ton more of these kind of girls out there because what Jeffrey Epstein was up to, we know how prolific he was with the activities that he was engaged in. If reports can be believed three a day, you do the math there. We're talking about 90 girls a month where they all the same girls all the time of no, we know that they weren't. So I'm sure that there are a lot more girls out there who share stories such as this girl in the article tonight and have also suffered great tragedy and battled through

2:04all sorts of mental illness and PTSD and all sorts of other elements that go along with suffering such trauma at the hands of somebody like Jeffrey Epstein. So it's nice to hear one of these stories, not so much the content obviously, but it's good to get these stories out there because it brings awareness to other girls who might not have told their stories yet, right? And this is a very tricky situation for a lot of these girls. I'm sure a lot of them don't want to come out and publicly speak and have all that attention and have to answer questions and be mobbed by newspapers and all of that stuff. I'm sure a lot of these girls have been able to compartmentalize this at least to the degree where they can at least function and go through life as normal as possible, whereas there's other girls who I'm sure this is just something that they have not been able to get over even with therapy and going to speak to a professional, a mental health

3:05professional and a trauma specialist. Sometimes it's a hurdle that can't be jumped. It's a very difficult task to come out of a dark place like that. And I'm sure there are a lot of girls that have fallen into that sort of abyss where there just doesn't seem to be any hope and any light. And they turn to drugs, right? They turn to drugs and they turn to self-destructive behavior. And that's human nature. And when the trauma has been that heavy, you can't even judge people when they look for that escape. They look for that release. They've been abandoned by the justice system. They've been abandoned by the authorities. You can't really blame them and you have to look at them with empathy when they turn to something like this because really what they're saying and what this is signaling is that they're at the end of the row, right? They don't know where to turn.

4:06They can't get help. Nothing has helped them. And all they're looking for is to dull the pain. So a lot of people that suffer this sort of trauma, they end up becoming drug addicts and they end up having destructive behavior control their lives. And that's what we're going to see in this article. And I think it's poignant and it's very important because I know for a fact that there are so many other girls like this in this case and in other cases as well, right? Not just with Jeffrey Epstein, but other people who have suffered this sort of abuse and who have not come forward and who they have suffered not only the abuse, but the after effects of that abuse and what it has done to them going forward in their lives and how it's hindered them trying to move forward with a happy life. The basic, the things that we just take for granted, right? The pursuit of happiness, being able to wake up every morning and even though you're a stressor, whatever, you're able to, you know, focus on, you know, what you have to do,

5:09what's good in your life, et cetera, et cetera. For people that have suffered this kind of trauma, well, there seems like there's no hope. There's no getting out of that hole. And then they get sucked into the depression aspect of it and the drug use and it's just bad news. So when we have an article like this, when the families are willing to come forward and share an article like this, even though it's painful to read, right? And brutal to read, it's something that needs to be talked about. It's something that needs to be added to the catalog and it's a very vital part of the story because when you see Virginia and Annie and Maria and the rest of the, the gals coming forward, they're, you know, they're, they're fighting for these girls as well, right? The girls that maybe haven't had a chance to come forward or have ended up overdosing on drugs or who have killed themselves or whatever it may be, they never had a chance to have their voices heard. So when these girls come forward, that are, you know, that are, are still with us and

6:10who have been able to battle through this and soldier on and they've been able to face down their own demons and come out victorious when they come out and they come forward and they speak on these topics. It's not just about them, really, right? It's about these girls that don't have a voice either. I'm not going to speak for the survivors of Jeffrey Epstein, but the ones who have come forward, they have taken that great burden upon their shoulders and they're leading the charge for the, the ones who don't have a voice because there was a time when these girls, they didn't have a voice either. Nobody listened to them either. So now that they have a platform, they're bravely standing up to the powers that be and they're telling them, look, we're going to speak out on what happened to us and we're going to speak out for all of the girls that couldn't speak out and we're going to demand justice and what you see here is families now of girls that have lost their lives due to overdoses, etc. They're coming out and they're adding their voice to the collective now and this is

7:13very powerful stuff and it's very important that we talk about it. So this article is from the Daily Mail and the headline is exclusive. She suffered tremendously and it started with Jeffrey Epstein, twin sister of woman who overdosed on heroin years after being abused by finance here, pedophile, as a teen, blames her downward spiral on downward spiral and death on the billionaire pedophile. And from that headline alone, it tells you what the article entails, right? It tells you what the article is going to be about and we can see and we understand because we've seen it time and time again in cases like this, how the spiral begins, this young girl comes into his web, gets abused by him and then she, you know, her mental state is fractured by it and rightfully so you go through a traumatic experience like that, you know, it's going to shake anybody at their core, at their foundation and we see these girls, they get, they have this huge burden placed upon them after they deal with Jeffrey

8:15Epstein and we've seen it numerous times in girls that have even come forward, how they turn to drugs and alcohol to try and stave off the memories and try and beat back the emotions that they feel because of the abuse that they suffered. And then there are other girls like this girl we're going to talk about tonight who slipped between the cracks, right folks? She slipped between the cracks and we, the society as a whole let her down. And it's sad to read about, it's sad to talk about but unfortunately this is reality and a lot of times people are slipping through the cracks and children are slipping through the cracks and we have to do a better job of making sure that we're more aware of what is going on around us and not so wrapped up in the BS gaslighting that that oblong box in the corner of your living room tries to get you wrapped up in. We have to make sure we're focused on the things that matter. And if this case doesn't matter, if human trafficking at the highest levels of government

9:19doesn't matter, if the abuse of children doesn't matter then we're completely lost as a civilization and I'm not willing to go there yet, right? I believe that Western civilization is something that is worth fighting for at the very least worth standing up for. I know as somebody who lives in a republic in the United States of America and somebody who believes in the rule of law even though I don't see it effectively put into place, I think that it is all of our duty to stand up when we see something like this and tell the people we've elected and tell law enforcement that it's their job to make sure that this sort of thing does not occur. And we're seeing a lot more of that now and I think it's very important that this sort of stuff is brought to the public view and is brought into more of a public light because there are too many people that slip through the cracks and we have to do our best to make sure that we mitigate that.

10:20Of course there's always going to be people who slip through the cracks. There's always going to be people like Jeffrey Epstein that figure out ways to manipulate the situation but anytime we see it and it's so brazen and so upfront we have to call it out. Among the stories from dozens of victims of pedophile, financier, Jeffrey Epstein, the untold tale of Lee Patrick's descent into a personal drug-fueled hell on earth stands out in its horror and again there has to be numerous stories like this. It's very sad for this Gal Lee Patrick's family to have to go on record and relive this and talk about this again but I think that their voice adds to the growing narrative that's demanding justice and I think that they're giving voice to the numerous nameless girls that have not been able to come forward or whose family hasn't felt comfortable coming forward and sharing their case. I think that this is going to be very important going forward and maybe even set a precedent

11:24for some of the other families of girls who have suffered the same fate for them to come forward and also speak out on the record. Christian School graduate Patrick who told DailyMal.com in an unpublished interview about her relationship with the multi-millionaire pervert in 2015 was found dead in a room in a sleazy West Palm Beach motel just weak short of her 30th birthday on May 30, 2017. You know that's unfortunately a very typical story here in America. A lot of us have lost loved ones to drug addiction and a lot of us have lost loved ones to situations just exactly like this but when you add the other factor into it the fact that she was abused by Jeffrey Epstein and abandoned and by the justice system and she saw that justice was never going to be served and then you put that into what we know here about her overdosing and being addicted to heroin and it's impossible to see that the two don't correlate.

12:28We understand that basic human nature is what took over here and she was obviously trying to repress those feelings and the trauma that she suffered and she got caught up in the drug game. I know personally I've seen it happen to a ton of people that weren't suffering from trauma. I saw it I've seen it happen to a lot of people I care about and it's not an easy thing to see it's not a pleasant thing to see to watch your friends or your loved ones battle with drugs and battle with addiction and basically kill themselves right in front of your eyes but there's nothing you really can do. You're helpless in that situation until the person is ready to get help and then you add the trauma on top of that and you have yourself a situation that is almost impossible to navigate without professional help. And while her death was ruled accidental by the local medical examiner's office and blamed on the opiate crisis, both a family member and a friend described Patrick's death

13:29as the conclusion of a chain of events kicked off by her alleged encounters with Epstein more than 15 years ago. It's definitely the type of thing that can begin a spiral into the abyss right, getting some trauma like that when you're a young girl and then have to have to live with it. You can't tell anybody about it and then if she had you know maybe she had some underlying mental illness already maybe some anxiety or depression or whatever it may be, it could have just been exasperated by this whole entire thing and just exploded right. Look I don't have any medical evidence proving that I'm not a medical doctor. I'm just going by what we're reading here in the article analyzing what we're reading here in the article and applying it to you know the day-to-day world and the things that we see on a day-to-day basis within the opiate crisis here in America because it's definitely a big deal.

14:29But what's never addressed and what is just as important is not so much the addiction, it's the underlying cause of the addiction. The underlying cause of the addiction is very rarely addressed and that is something that totally needs to be talked about and it needs to be addressed if you're going to help the person who is suffering from the addiction. She struggled with addiction since the time she met that guy. She went to rehab several times, she fought hard but she eventually succumbed to the addiction. We miss her. It's tough, it's tough when you lose somebody you care about to an overdose and it's frustrating, it's maddening, you don't know what to do, you're at the end of your rope, you've done everything in your power to help these people and this is still the result. And again you add the trauma of being assaulted by Epstein on top of it and it's just a bomb waiting to explode. And just like they said here she tried to get help several times and it didn't work, she fought hard but some people just get so caught up.

15:31They're mental illness from the trauma as well as the drug addiction, it grabs hold and then that's it, there's no way to get out of it. And again there must be so many girls that have suffered at Epstein's hands that have struggled the same way that she has struggled here. It's crazy, it's crazy now when we read this article to put a face to it because before we were just like oh it's an unnamed person, an unnamed girl but now we have a name, Leap Patrick, Leap Patrick, she was somebody who fit the whole entire bill that we were discussing that we would describe the unknown girl who suffered at Epstein's hands and then disappeared that we never heard from again. How many other girls suffered this fate? And I think about this a lot, this is something that I pondered quite a bit because it's really hard to get to the bottom of that, right? How do you figure that out? How do you trace that down? How do you vet that?

16:31Without just an abundance of resources it would be very difficult to go after that and even within the abundance of resources it would be hard to track that down. Epstein, a Wall Street financier, pedophile with more than $100 million in properties in Manhattan, Palm Beach and elsewhere was arrested on July 6 on federal charges of sex trafficking. The arrest has shaken the political establishment to its core because Epstein, a friend of President Donald Trump and former President Bill Clinton, has been accused of sharing some of his underage victims with other powerful men. Yeah, look, there's no doubt about it. He has definitely been accused of that and we're talking people at the highest levels of government. We're talking people in Israeli politics, American politics, royals over in England. We're talking about him being really good friends with the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, his ties to Austria.

17:33We're talking about an intercontinental enterprise here, folks. This is a guy that was surrounded by power players. In the mid-2000s Palm Beach police investigated Epstein and accused him of recruiting and paying dozens of girls. Many of them troubled and some of them as young as 14 from working-class neighborhoods for sex and a dungeon at his waterfront mansion. The story is as old as time itself. The elite praying on the working class, the elite praying on those that they deem less worthy than them. That's what this story breaks down to, right? Jeffrey Epstein, part of the so-called elite New York Uppercrust Society, looked at everybody else as his plaything and everybody else as a piece on a chess board as was exa- you saw the example of that at his house, how he had the his employees carved into like-nesses

18:35of chess pieces and they were moved around on the chess board as if they were pieces to be played with. That's how Epstein viewed everything. It was just his playground and everybody was a piece on the chess board for him to move as he saw fit. The then Palm Beach County State Attorney Barry Krischer and federal prosecutors led at the time by now former U.S. Labor Secretary Alex Acosta worked out what had been called a sweetheart deal with Epstein's high-powered legal team. It also allowed the pedophile to plead guilty to misdemeanor prostitution charges. Again, that's gross. These weren't prostitutes, these were young girls. These were young high school-aged girls and this guy was in his 50s whatever how overall he was bringing him bringing them in and enticing them with money knowing that they come from under-privileged backgrounds, from broken homes and playing on that and using that to his advantage to bring them into his atmosphere, to groom them and then use them as he saw

19:38fit before discarding them. They weren't prostitutes, okay? They were girls that were abused by a sick disgusting pervert. Acosta, after being asked by Democrats and Republicans, resigned from his government position on Friday as details of the Epstein deal continued to roll out. In 2008, Epstein served 13 months of an 18-month sentence in a county jail where he only reported to his cell after business hours and on weekends. Every weekday morning, during his sentence, Epstein's show for limo picked him up outside the jail and drove him to a fancy downtown West Palm Beach office so that he can continue conducting Wall Street business. Because we all know, Wall Street business was the most important thing in the world, right? Gotta make sure that Wall Street business continues. Money over lives. It's gross. That whole entire way of thinking is gross. I'm not a fan of it.

20:39It's not proper thinking. There's no humanity behind it. And guys like Jeffery Epstein think that way. He doesn't care about it. He didn't care, I should say, about anybody else or anything else. Every movie made was self-serving. Every bit of money he donated, every movie made was about his self-preservation and consolidating his power and how it would serve him down the line. Patrick was not a limo kind of girl. She wrote to friends in a friend's aging car to travel the 17 miles from her childhood home in working class Lake Worth, Florida to Epstein's $15 million house. Patrick's name became public when she was subpoenaed to testify in one of his series of lawsuits filed by survivors against Epstein. And when Daily Mail contacted her for an interview in 2015, she agreed to talk about the first time she ended up at Epstein's mansion. She admitted then to battling an addiction to drugs, but she was clean and sober after a stint in rehab and had just applied for a job selling insurance.

21:42I don't think it matters if she was addicted to drugs. Does that make what happened to her any less important? Does that make her story any less important? It doesn't make any less credible either. That was how Dershowitz and even the prosecution destroyed the case in the first place by saying these girls were drug addicts or they were flirting with boys on my space or talking about partying or whatever, whatever, whatever nonsensical BS they could come up with. So when somebody is on drugs, that doesn't make them less of a person who could be victimized, right? Or somebody that could be abused. So it's important that we don't need to preface that. I don't think that's important. I mean, this is a human being. They might be on drugs, but they're still a human being, right? They should be listened to. Now of course, when somebody's messed up on drugs, it definitely goes to their credibility and a good lawyer is going to exploit that for sure.

22:44But that doesn't mean that their story shouldn't be listened to. A good lawyer, their job is to try and exploit the case, right? But it's the prosecution's job to combat that. And we didn't see that with Kirscher. We saw the way he just jumped on board him and his team, and they were helping destroy the credibility of the witness. That's not how that's supposed to work. At the time she revealed she was engaged and was planning on marrying her son's father. Patrick admitted to being a wild teenager who used alcohol despite the state's drinking age of 21, breaking news, so did I. I'm sure I'm sure so did most of you out there listening to the podcast. You mean to tell me at 16, 17, 18, 19 years old, you weren't pounding back brews or boons farm or mad dog 2020 or night train or whatever your drink of choice was? Come on. I grew up in New York for the first bit of my life and then for my formative years, I grew

23:44up in Las Vegas, Nevada. We were definitely drinking at that age. It didn't make us bad people, right? It didn't make us, you know, liars or it was just what teenagers do. And for them to try and use that against them, it doesn't pass the sniff test with me because it's hypocritical at best. I was at Wellington Christian school when this first happened with Jeffrey Patrick explained as her son, Jaden, then three, played nearby. It was sometime in 2003. I was at a party one night at a school friend's house when this other girl, a friend, said we should go to a house party in Palm Beach. I was slightly buzzed so I said, why not? When we got there, my friend left in a hurry and there I was alone in that big mansion. There was no party going on. The house, she said, seemed to be occupied only by Epstein and a woman who appeared to work for him. The woman took me into a large bathroom, Patrick said and Jeffrey was already there with a towel around his waist.

24:45That's how many times we heard the same story from these girls who were ended up being abused by Epstein. How many times have we heard the same exact scenario play out? So again, what it does is it lends credence to what she was talking about. Remember, this is in 2015 when she gave this interview. She's talking about the same things we've heard from all of these other survivors and this interview was never released until recently. So again, it adds credence to what all of the survivors are saying and it adds to the pool of evidence that they're being truthful. I remember he had a black and white photo of a dick on the wall. I thought the whole thing was creepy. Patrick claimed Epstein gave her $300 cash and talked her into removing her shirt. She did, but when he allegedly asked her to take off her brush, he declined. He was getting aggressive about what he wanted. Patrick said, and I got really uncomfortable so I grabbed my shirt and left.

25:45There was little doubt where this was going and I ran out of the house and into the street. I left because I was a scared 16 year old. She said, I ran out because he was so creepy, he scared the life out of me. Patrick said she went back to see Epstein but didn't want to discuss it. It makes me angry just thinking about it. And do you blame her for being angry thinking about it? I mean, a 16 year old girl, she goes over to this guy's house and this is what happens to her when she goes over there on the pretense that she's going to some sort of party. And who are the people that brought her over there for this party? What sort of friend does that? I mean, there's just a lot of scumbagery going on in the world and it's really depressing, isn't it? In 2008, as local news media reported Epstein pleaded guilty to minor charges, she called one of his lawyers and demanded money for what he'd done. From time, she told DailyMail.com she didn't want to file a lawsuit but still got a $50,000

26:45settlement that included a clause she could never discuss what happened at the mansion. She set a friend of her suit, Epstein, under the name AC and also received $50,000. And Epstein would gladly pay out 50 grand. 50 grand was nothing to Jeffery Epstein. To keep these girls quiet and to keep these stories behind closed doors, he was more than willing to throw out the 50 grand. My question is, was Darren Indyke involved in that? And if so, wouldn't this be paying off witnesses? How does he get away with it, folks? How did this man get away with it for so long? These poor girls were kept silent with these payoffs and $50,000 is a lot of money when you ain't got nothing, right? When you have nothing, when you don't have anything and you have a child and you have responsibilities and you have this trauma hanging over you, someone offers you 50 grand to sign an NDA. It's difficult not to do that. And I'm sure a lot of these girls that I call the nameless girls are girls that did that.

27:46And I don't blame them one bit. Don't confuse me at all because we're not walking in their shoes. We have no idea what they've went through how rough it's been on them. So somebody, you know, the $50,000, especially when they see that justice hasn't come so far, why should they believe justice is going to come at all? That is, well, take the 50 grand at the very least, get that bit of validation. And that's, that's what Lee did here. She took that $50,000 and you know what? I do not blame her for one second. I would have done the same exact thing. Dailymail.com contacted AC this week, but she asked her husband to remain anonymous. I don't blame her either. Why would you not want to remain anonymous in this case? Unless you're somebody like Bradley Edwards or somebody that's right in the eye of the storm, remaining anonymous is your best bet because you don't want to get swept up in all of this madness. AC claimed in her 2008 lawsuit that she was 17 years old when she was seduced by Epstein

28:49into performing acts of lude and lascivious conduct for Epstein who also touched her breasts and genitalia. Again, we know that that's how Jeffrey Epstein liked to roll as well. She was a very handsy touchy kind of guy and we see this same kind of story from several of the girls. And it's, it's pathetically sad to know that they could have been stopped and this all could have been stopped, but it wasn't because they didn't listen to Maria Farmer and Annie Farmer when they should have. AC's husband who asked, who also asked not to be identified said his wife handled the aftermath of her ordeal well, but she was one of the lucky ones. I've been with my wife since high school and many of our friends ended up at Epstein's house. He said, we're married and we have jobs and children, but for a few of the girls who were abused, they didn't turn out so good. He really messed with these girls' heads. There's been psychological scars that led to substance abuse, right there folks? So AC's husband is telling us right there that there's other girls that we don't know

29:52about. I mean, we've, we can assume, right? And I've speculated here on the podcast that there has to be according to the evidence and if you mathematically, it wouldn't, it just doesn't seem feasible that this isn't the case. But again, when we hear it from somebody who firsthand knowledge, it carries more weight, right? He named Patrick as one of the most egregious cases. Patrick's nude body was found by the cleaning crew who sought off the door handle in order to get inside. Man, this is, this is hard to even read. This is hard to even read. She was partly covered with a sheet while on while on a twin bed at the treetops motel in May, 2017, where Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office deputies routinely run undercover sex for sale sting operations. So who knows what this poor girl was going through, man? And it's really sad to read that her final hours were spent like that in some city hotel, motel, by herself or with God knows who.

30:55And who, it's so sad to think about, it really is, really, really upsetting. The corpse, according to the lengthy Sheriff's Office report, was covered with bruises, abrasions and open wounds. The deputies at the scene also noted open source. Deputies tracked down a man who had been renting the room where Patrick's body was found, and he told them he was driving out of the motel property when he picked up Patrick as she ran down the street. Wow. So pause here, folks. This poor girl, all this trauma, all of this nonsense she's been through, and this is how she ends up, and this is what her life ended up being after dealing with Jeffrey Epstein and being caught in the grips and the clutches of this disgusting animal. And it's sobering to read stuff like this. We read about statistics and unnamed person was hurt here or there. So when you start putting a face to it and you start hearing the stories behind it, it's

31:58heartbreaking to imagine this family and what they're going through and how they suffered knowing that they were helpless to help their loved one after the assault, during when the assault was happening, and then after the assault, when they fell into their, the clutches of drug addiction. He told authorities she looked like she may have been beaten and was obviously under the influence of drugs. He said she agreed to go back to his room so she could take a shower and clean up her wounds. In the room, the man told deputies he witnessed Patrick getting high while sitting on the toilet. She'd been hiding baggies filled with a white powder in her bra. When she passed out, he said he flushed the drugs into the toilet and threw out her glass pipe in the garbage. She was snoring on the bed when he left to check out. He told deputies he figured she'd eventually wake up, which she didn't. I don't know about all of that. I hope that there were more thorough with this guy. It doesn't seem like the kind of story I'm buying, right? Seems like maybe he was involved a little bit more with her.

33:01I'm not saying he killed her or anything like that, but it just doesn't seem feasible. To me, he picks her up out of the kindness of her is heart. At this CD hotel, brings her back to his place. She starts doing drugs or whatever. She passes out. She splits after he throws out her dope and her works. Doesn't add up to me. I'm not a detective or anything, but I did watch the wire. I mean, really sounds kind of odd. I hope that they dug a little deeper into this guy. Her son, Jaden, who turned seven years old later this month, was left under the care of her twin sister, Selby. You know, AC's husband said, the system may have fell them twice. Once in letting Epstein go and a second time failing to provide some kind of support. Yep, AC, you're right on, buddy. I agree with you. 100% Pell. Palm Beach County record, county record show Patrick was arrested 12 times in the 14 years between the time of her encounters with Epstein and her death.

34:01Her rap sheet included possession of cocaine, domestic battery, resisting arrest, battery on a law enforcement officer, and assault. In 2017, she was arrested outside her sister's house and charged with trespassing. She had been banned from the property after her attempts to see her young son, who was in her sister's custody, turned violent. According to records, Patrick pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 17 days in the county slumber. She was found dead two days, excuse me, she was found dead two weeks after her release. And we see that quite a bit with drug addicts as well. They'll go to, they'll do a stint in jail and especially heroin addicts and then they'll come out of jail and they'll try and go get, they'll try and score and they might get a hot bag and they'll shoot that, that, that heroin up and they'll overdose. They'll be too much fentanyl in it maybe or it'll be too strong for them after their system has had a chance to kick the, the heroin tolerance, the opiate tolerance that it,

35:02it had built inside of its system once it has a chance to kick that. They go back and they try and nail the same sort of shot that they would have previously and it's too much for them and they overdose and the people that they're with are like, you know what, we're not, we don't want to get arrested. So we're just going to leave you here to die and they split, they don't call the cops and then that person dies. How do I know something like that happens? It's happened in my own family. So I know how that happens and how that works for sure and I certainly know what it's like to lose a loved one due to an overdose. So my heart definitely goes out to her family in this situation, not only were they victimized by Jeffrey Epstein for all of that time, they were also victimized by the vicious cycle of the opiate epidemic just sweeping through the nation. So it's definitely, it's a sobering read and it's tough to talk about stuff like this, but we have to remember that these are real people and these girls without a voice, they

36:02deserve to be heard. So with with with with ladies, Lee Patrick's family coming out and speaking out like this and telling their story and, you know, the Daily Mail running this article, what it does is hopefully let's others know that they're not alone, right? And there's resources for people who have been through this sort of trauma and there are a lot of really good people working on this case, especially that these girls can reach out to. That all of the lawyers working the case will help them with the proper resources and help them get whatever help they need. And you know, there are resources out there. So hopefully some of these unnamed girls will come forward and they will let their story be heard and they will also be given a chance to get some reparations in the form of a monetary payout to help them, you know, with the financial burden. So how many of them have spent money out of their own pocket to go seek therapy for this?

37:04I'm sure a lot of them. So I think them getting, you know, the monetary payout would help ease the burden at least financially and perhaps maybe let them focus on moving forward with their lives and trying to put this behind them as opposed to scratching and clawing every day, worrying about, you know, the how I'm going to pay for my therapy as well as my child's kindergarten or, you know, nursery school or whatever it may be. So I think that stories like this are important because it gives other people courage to also let their stories be known and bring their stories out to the public. All right, folks. If you'd like to contact me, you could do that at bobbykapuchi at protonmail.com. That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at protonmail.com. You can also find me on Twitter at b-o-b-b-y- underscore-ca-p-u-c-c-i. If you haven't watched it, what's up everyone and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.

38:04One of the things I've said from the very beginning pretty much here on the podcast is that as these people get brought to justice and more of them are brought to face the music, the more girls and survivors who live through the abuse of Maxwell and Epstein are going to come forward. And we're starting to see that as we speak. One of the most prominent lawyers in the whole entire ordeal, Bradley Edwards, is talking about how even more girls are coming forward now and how the case and the scope of the case is still growing. It just shows you the absolute wake of misery and sorrow that was left in the path of Jeffrey Epstein and Golan Maxwell for years. And it's just not the women and the girls that we have heard of that have been out at

39:06the forefront of this. There are a lot of unnamed girls. A lot of unnamed women. And I've talked about it before how girls from these war torn countries, Eastern Europe, the Balkans, insert country here who is going through financial difficulties or who is going through a situation that might have seen the country in some sort of conflict. It's much easier to traffic people in situations such as that, right? People lose passports. You know, it's a whole litany of things takes place. And people are being displaced from a war. So we know that there was a huge market for Jean-Luc Brunel in Eastern Europe in the Balkans, some of these other countries. And we know that he was recruiting and grooming girls from these countries as well. Now we've only heard from a handful of women and girls who were abused by Epstein.

40:09So the analogy I used was it's like a dam that gets a couple of cracks in it. After it gets a couple of cracks, well, the whole entire integrity of the structure is, you know, at risk. And then eventually the whole entire thing comes tumbling down. And I think that's what we're seeing in real time here. Maybe not the whole thing come tumbling down as far as the Kochan Spiritors who were involved in the actual abuse. But I think you're going to see a lot of women and girls who might not have come forward previously, come forward now that they see that. All right, well, maybe things are moving in the right direction. Maybe the gears of justice are turning in the right direction with Golan Maxwell being arrested. And I would think that we're going to see even more of it. We saw it in the wake of Epstein when the girls and they felt more secure, right?

41:12These women who were abused as children or as young ladies, they felt a lot more secure when Epstein was dead to come forward and talk about what they experienced. They felt like there was less of a chance that he would be able to ruin them from the great. So with Maxwell, basically, defanged here and behind bars, I would not be shocked in the least to see a lot more women come forward. And that's why I say during a mistrial, if there is one that's declared, it might even go worse for Maxwell. And this article talks about that as well. It's, yeah, it was obvious to me that it would be even harder the second time around for Maxwell to get off, but her team knows this is the only thing that they have, right? The only hope that they have is to get this as a mistrial and to drag it out a little bit longer in hopes that another technicality pops up or that they have another loophole that they can access because they know that the evidence is not in their favor.

42:17It's never been in their favor. It's never going to be in their favor. So looking at an appeal, I don't think that's going to work out so well. In the forum, just take a look at how Maxwell's bell attempts went throughout this whole entire situation. Denied, denied, denied, offered up a gigantic amount of money, denied. So I highly doubt that her appeal is going to be met with any sort of positive reaction by the court. And that's the way it should be in my opinion. When you commit a crime like this, I really don't feel like there's any kind of rehabilitation for you. When you're abusing children, the most vulnerable amongst us, you should go and do a million years in prison. So I'm glad that she wasn't able to get bailed out throughout this whole thing. I mean, I know there was a lot of cynical people out there who thought she was going to make bail just because how broken the system is. And really, can you blame people who take that approach?

43:20I try not to. I get it. Honestly, the system is broken. People are cynical. You can't look at the institutions that we once trusted and tell me that you still trust them with no doubt about it. There's no reserve when you're looking reservations when you're looking at what they do. These institutions are not trustworthy because they're untrustable. And they're the ones who have made that bed. But you had people who really thought that she was going to get bailed out, that she was never even going to face trial. And again, I can't even be critical of those kinds of people. I won't even call them conspiracy theorists, to be honest with you. When you look at a broken system and you expect the worst, that's just human nature at this point, right? So I knew that she'd end up staying in jail, staying in prison. I never thought that she'd beat these charges and the only way that she would ever be able

44:22to would be through a loophole or a technicality or perhaps something that presented itself like with juror 50. But even that's not enough for her to get off. Maybe enough to initiate that mistrial, but certainly not enough to get her off. And I don't think there's a jury in the land. And that's not hyperbole when I say that, folks. I don't think there's a jury in the land that wouldn't find her guilty on the majority of these charges. Hell, I wouldn't be shocked if the next jury, if there was a mistrial, long shot at this point in my opinion. But if there is, I wouldn't be shocked if she's found guilty on all charges at that point. And then I really hope the government sticks it to her and pursues those perjury charges on the back end. The all of this, make her pay some more money, make her litigate it some more, and you know, add a couple more years, like 10 on the back end of that sentence. That's what happens if you don't play a ball, right?

45:22Should just take your L here and move on, Golan. But she won't do it. Her lawyers won't do it. And it's just going to get worse for her because there's going to be more survivors who come out and tell their stories. So tonight we have two articles. First, we're going to talk about this topic right here that we're talking about right now. And that is Bradley Edwards and him dishing about more girls coming forward and a little bit about the perhaps there being a mistrial. Then after that, we're going to close out the show on a bit of a lighter note with that moron, Prince Andrew, and the fact that he played a hide and seek game with his teddy bears. I know we've talked about the teddy pairs a lot for the last couple of days, but now it's coming out that this dude played a hide and seek game that he made that help participate in with his teddy bears. Oh, yeah, we'll get to that for sure. All right, but first before we go down that road, how about we hop into this article from insider and author Jacob Shamsian over at insider and the headline is a new trial for Golan

46:28Maxwell would go even worse for her accusers lawyer, her for her, for her as accusers. Her says more women came forward after her sex trafficking conviction. And this was to be expected, right? I had no doubt in my mind that more women were going to come forward here and there would be more tea being spilled. There's a lot of people that were around Golan Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein, this whole operation. That knew what was going on. Maybe they didn't have a full look behind the curtain, right? Maybe they weren't sitting there participating, but you mean to tell me nobody was talking, there was no scuttle but you know when you're in a group of friends and everybody's friendly, somebody has some kind of you know weird behavior that they're up to, people talk about it. Hey, you know, John and Jen, I am swimmers, you know, that's just how it's human nature, right? People talk about scuttle but you mean to tell me right now that there was never any talk

47:28about this, huh? About, oh, Jeffrey likes him young. Well, you might want to talk to Ellen Powell, X, C, E, O of Reddit about that because she says according to her, everybody knew what they were. I think Cindy McCain also said the same thing. So the whole, oh, we had no idea type shit. It's a loose ass defense in my opinion and certainly not a defense at all after his first arrest. Before the first arrest, you could say, all right, I had no idea that what he was and while I might be suspicious of it, I can't really pinpoint and say, oh, you're a liar. Now if you were hanging out with him after the first arrest, you're just a straight up piece of shit. You already know what this dude is or what it was soliciting a prostitute in Florida stop it. You know it wasn't that. But yet these people still chose to chill with this dude. The prospect of a new trial for Golan Maxwell would be frustrating for survivors who may be asked to testify again and to the prosecutors who successfully convicted her on charges

48:30of sex trafficking them, excuse me, sex trafficking them to Jeffrey Epstein. Definitely frustrating who wants to live through that again. That was very traumatic for these ladies getting up there, testifying whole world watching basically, reliving the absolute horror that you went through. Definitely not going to be fun. But like they said in the opening here with Brad Edwards, what he said, it's, I think it'll be worse for her. There are more women coming forward as we speak on a daily basis. But it wouldn't be the end of the world according to Brad Edwards and attorney representing 58 women who have accused Epstein of misconduct. And if I said it once, I'll say it again. I am not a fan of lawyers for the most part. I find them to be pretty much repugnant characters. People that are, you know, ambulance chasing, cloud chasing, that kind of thing. But Brad Edwards, as far as I can tell, is a pretty solid human being and a really decent guy it would seem. So you should probably check out his book that he has out a relentless pursuit.

49:34Definitely a good book, some a book that I have personally. And if you're looking for more context about what Bradley Edwards partner, all of this was, he can certainly explain it better than any of us can. So definitely check that book out if you want to know more about him. As jurors convicted Maxwell in late December, more women have contacted Edwards to say they'd be willing to participate in any investigations into her conduct he told insider. What has happened since the guilty verdict is more people have come forward, willing to share their stories about Galaine and testify, Edward said. So I don't think a new trial would go any better for her. In fact, I think it would go worse for her. And this is what I've been saying, right? A mistrial, well, on the on the face of it sounds a bit disastrous, but in the long run, I think it would be even worse for Maxwell and her team, well, not her team's bank accounts, but for Maxwell and her team to even go through a mistrial here. They should cut bait. They should accept getting rid of the perjury charges up to 10, get those dropped, and

50:39then, you know, go and seek some kind of light sentence from the judges. You're going to get, you know, 40 years, 50 years, whatever it might be. But if you fight this and you try and waste the time of the court and the citizens, then I would hope that they look for maximum sentence for every little thing. And like Brad Edwards says, tags some shit on. Let's get that Rico case going that we always talk about. That would be a great idea. Maxwell's attorneys formally filed their motion for a retrial Wednesday night. The motion is under seal, but in previous court filings, they argued that a jurors comments to the media about his own experience with sexual abuse indicate he should not have, he should not have been seated on the jury in the first place. Now, first of all, it's boo boo and garbage that this is even being filed filed under seal. At this point, how is anything like this being filed under seal? This should all be transparent.

51:40How is it a secret that you're trying to get this? This trial overturned here on what the juror allegedly said or didn't say. I don't understand the secrecy of it. And again, it just goes to whip people up into a frenzy and get people talking, you know, out of the side of their neck. And again, I don't, it's not even that I blame people for doing that because I really don't. It's the current climate that we're in. Nobody knows where to turn for truthful news or who to trust. And it's taking a toll. Edwards represented one of the four women who testified last month in Maxwell's trial in federal court in Manhattan. The woman who testified under the pseudonym Kate said Maxwell, but befriend her as a teenager, dangle the possibility that Epstein could help her career with powerful music industry connections and then introduce her to sexualize massages with Epstein. And we all know the mo at this point.

52:41I'm not going to beat a dead horse and go into it. But imagine hearing the stories that Brad Edwards has heard from all of these different girls who have come to him seeking his help. It was the beginning of a sexually abusive relationship with Epstein that lasted for years Kate testified. She said that Maxwell often arranged sexual encounters between her and Epstein and that she felt fearful about leaving their orbit because they name dropped powerful friends like Prince Andrew and Donald Trump. So look, for us on the outside, it's easy to sit there and try and put yourself in their shoes and say, Oh, I would have done this. I would have left. I would, you don't know until you're in that situation, you do not know what you would have done, how you would have reacted. In fact, unless you've ever been poor or from a broken home like this, then you really have no idea what's going on. US District Judge Allison Nathan, who oversaw the trial told jurors they could not convict Maxwell based on Kate's testimony about Epstein sexual misconduct.

53:44Kate was at the age of consent in London when Epstein first sexually abused her, so she couldn't be considered one of Maxwell's survivors for the purposes of the trial according to Edwards. Still was abused, you know what I mean? And again, it's obviously, crimes against children are legitimately the most heinous crime you could possibly be engaged in. In my opinion, is a crime against a woman or an older person, what in the hell is wrong with people? But Kate's testimony helped jurors understand that Maxwell used the same playbook over and over again when trafficking young women to Epstein for sex he explained. She provided information about the dynamic between Golan and Jeffrey Edwards said, what their life was like together then and what type of arrangements that Golan was capable of making, the knowledge of what Epstein's intentions were. So again, Bradley Edwards, drop in some knowledge, add in some context to the whole story, and who knows better than the guy that's on the front line since the very beginning.

54:47Remember, Jeffrey Epstein feared Bradley Edwards so much that he had private investigators combing through his trash looking for dirt on him in shit. A new trial would also mean that prosecutors could present more evidence to convict Maxwell and keep her behind bars for the rest of her life, Edward said. Maxwell's 60 faces a sentence of up to 65 years. Nathan said she will hold a sentencing hearing this summer if Maxwell is not granted a new trial. I'm not ultimately that worried about the end result, Edward said, such as life, you have hurdles. He is not wrong about that, right? And when you're engaged in something for the long run and you're committed to something for the long run, the way Bradley Edwards is, then he's ready to go. He's one of those dudes. He bites down on his mouthpiece in like round 96 and he comes out, he's still fresh, ready to go. His opponents all beat up, tired. That's the kind of dude that Bradley Edwards is. So if they want to go for the mistrial, my guess is he's ready to rock.

55:52All right, so that's going to conclude that article. And that's where we're at as far as more potential victims and survivors come in forward. And it's just like I said, I think I was just talking about this yesterday or earlier today. Do so many episodes, it gets all confusing to me. But we were just talking about it. How I believe that more women are going to come out and give their stories. And then this article drops. So that's where we're at with that. And I would expect a lot more folks as we move forward. All right. So I said we'd close on a light note tonight and we're going to do that. And that light note is this buffoon, this moron, this prince of nothing, Prince Andrew, and his knucklehead ass behavior. All right. So this is an article from the Scottish son and the headline is Teddy Games. Prince Andrew made his maid play hide and seek with his teddy bears. I look, I'm not making it up folks. All right. That sounds like some wild ass shit that I'm sitting around eating elk meat and consuming

56:53DMT with Joe Rogan before coming on here and talking to you. But this is real life and that's what the headline says. This article was authored by Julia Atherley. Prince Andrew would play hide and seek with his teddy bears, despite being nearly 40, a former housemaid at Buckingham Palace has revealed. He used to have his maids conceal one of his stuffed toys if he was going out for the night. Oh, what a great game. Let's play hide and seek. I mean, is this guy for real? As Sebastian Manascalco would say, aren't you embarrassed? Your stuffed toys if you were going out for the night? I wonder if you were playing with your stuffed toys before you went over to tramp. The Duke of York, aka Prince of nothing, would then try to find it when he came back. What a great game. I'm going to go out all night, but you hide the teddy bear when I come home, I'm going to try and find it. 40 year old man, Prince X War hero, full time clown.

57:56Jeanette McGowan, who worked at Buckingham Palace from 1999 to 2000, remembers the game Andrew would play when he was 39. The former housekeeper 65 from near Edenburg told the son it was a little game he would play with his maid. She would hide one of the teddy bears somewhere unexpected, like the bathroom cabinet. When he came back to the palace, he would have to try and find it. It was a bit odd and it was a very tongue in cheek, a bit odd, 40 year old man, Prince of England, hiding teddy bears, little more than a touch odd. Downright weird, okay? Take your beanie baby collection and beat it pal. He used to find it very funny. His regular maid said it was just something she always did. This week it emerges that the demanding Duke ordered flunkies to arrange five teddy's and soft toys in specific positions on his bed every night. Really calm them flunkies?

58:56That's what they're called. How about working class people who are trying to make a living by pampering this stupid son of the bitch? Staff had a sketch showing precisely how the item should be set out. Andrew, now 61, said in 2010, he had always collected teddy bears. Jeanette recalled 40 to 50 of them would be piled on his bed during the day, only to be moved off each night. She said my recollection is that there was a polaroid picture of how the teddy bears would have to be placed, kept in the bedside drawer. Yeah, not no books, yeah, forget it, I don't need a Bible or for me, you know, a George R.R. Martin novel or a Joe A.B.R. Crabby novel, nah, just need make sure I have this polaroid picture of how my teddy bears go back, take it easy buffalo bill. I could see this dude dancing around like buffalo bill in his now stripped military uniform, listening to some funky music with his teddy bears.

59:57And with that image, folks, I'm going to leave you for the night, sorry about that, really apologize. I will be back tomorrow morning, obviously, and we will pick this right back up and we will continue on the quest of the ever evolving case of Jeffrey Epstein, Gleinmaxe, well, Prince Andrew and the rest of the Ninken poops. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that at Bobbi Kapuchi at protonmail.com. That's, that's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at protonmail.com. Sorry, I have my dog here with me tonight, he's being a goofball, just made me laugh. You can also find me at Twitter at B-O-B-B-Y underscore C-A-P-U-C-C-I. The links that we discussed can be found in the description box. Alright folks, some more context.