Nightmare on Pikes Peak

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3:06Before. Okay, from the top. Have I ever called a woman Keith? Keith. Yes. But it's not her name. It's not her name. No. No. And I just did this. I just did this three days ago and it was an email. It was an email to a PR lady. You know, you get these emails that come in for us of like, oh, this product has just launched or, hey, this could be interesting for your audience or whatever. But sometimes sometimes we get releases about books, automotive books. Yes. And there was one that came in from Volochie publishing and it was the essential buyers guide to the 911997 range. I thought, oh, wow.

4:09Exactly. I know you've had one and we talk about them probably too much and I know it's one of those models which it's a case of when not if for me. That's funny. I was browsing 9997s again the other night. And we were leaving 9993 yesterday with what we were doing and I couldn't stop staring at that one either because that's another one. I know. Oh gosh. I love the bum of the 993. It's got such a great ass. Anyway. Well, that one you were leaning on was a Carrera S with the slightly wider bum as well. Yes. But yes, the 913 is a great one. Anyway, we know this. So this book came in and it said, would you like to release a book and I replied to them and went, this is great. This book. I'd be interested to see this because I tested these in period and was really taken by them. And I think it's going to be one of the porches that people are perhaps most interested

5:11in in the next couple of years. She put, thanks for getting in touch. I can send you a copy. Love the recent video on the Late Break Show blah, blah, blah. And then she signed it off with Kath because that's her name. And I, I speed reddit and yes, replied and went, hello Keith, that would be fantastic. Thank you. And then she's replied to me to go Kath, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot. But it's okay. I'll get one in the post to you, kind regards. Ah, ah, ah. Do you know if she'd had a wits about her, she'd have written Dear Jenny, thank you for your reply. I'll get a book in the post to you. You're Keith. And you can carry it on. So I have to say, I have to say a thank you. And also I kind of lied and said, Oh, damn, bloody auto correct.

6:12Really sorry about that. That did me proud. But it wasn't. It was because I just misread your name. I feel correct. Also correct. Generally sort of. Also correct is kind of learning, isn't it? So that would, that would imply that you write the word Keith quite a lot, like, which I suppose some people might get. I know I deal with more Keith's than Kath's 100%. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. You don't, you do know Keith Adams. I do. Yes, of course, and a Keith Adams out of, of cars and stuff. And like, like one of the biggest authorities on BL toss out there. Well, oh, and yes, hang on now. Well, actually, I do know several Keith's. I've just realised I'm being thick here, but yes, I do. Because. Are you a Keith tonight? I'm not being a Keithist. I just, I won't blank on Keith's because I don't know why. Is it a Keithist? You'd believe that they don't exist. A Keithist. A Keithist. Who's denied the existence of Keith's? No.

7:12They don't ever exist. No, no, no, Keith. No, and there's Keith Jones as well. And yes, actually, I think, now I'm feeling bad that there may be other Keith's that we know that are listening going, oh, thanks very much, you bastard. But, well, there we go. I've never done that. I, okay. I'm trying to think, I mean, I have made many, many name faux pas. I'm terrible. I am bad. I'm bad. I'm remembering names really bad. Yeah. And introducing friends to people who stood next to me. And I can't remember the name of them. Yeah, I've done it with you. I've done it with you numerous times. I'm Richard, by the way. Oh, no, no, no, no. I thought your Regina, did you say your name? Well, thank you. Yes. Why not? The one that makes my blood run cold is when I think I've remembered somebody's name and I very, very confidently go, oh, yeah, Johnny, this is Chris. And they'll go, actually, no, my name is John. Oh, that's exactly right.

8:13Just, it's awful. It's awful. It's awful. I think we've all been there. But now I've never called a lady called Kath Keith. But I wouldn't rule this out in future. Now you've also planted that. It'll probably happen immediately. Yes. Well, I'm sorry to Kath from the low-cheap publishing. Who's written that 997 book? We might as well give it a bit of a push here now to a tone for your sins. It is. Yeah, that's true, actually. Keith, Kathington. It's not. Oh, Adrian Streeter. Okay. Adrian Streeter. And it's got a converter. It's got a speed steering version on the cover. Oh. That nice blue that I can't remember the name of that Paul Cowlon's got. Oh, that blue. Quite bright blue, yeah. Yeah, it's good blue. Oh, hey, before I forget, I feel like I start a lot of podcasts plugging. But I should just go on something that is coming up. And now I'll go to have to double check the dates. So I don't look like a flute.

9:13A right-old flute. The coming, well, we've got live shows. I'll mention those in a minute. On Thursday, November 26th, I am being interviewed live on stage by Paul Cowland at Great Northern Classics in Derby, where we've done a live show in the past. Oh. Yeah, I love that place. It's being built rather embarrassingly as an evening with Richard Porter. But if you look at it as an evening with Richard Porter talking to Paul Cowland, maybe that takes the sting out of it. Yeah. But anyway, that's what's going on I'm doing at evening with. I did one at the British Moist Museum in Gaden. Last year with Paul to raise money for the museum. And it all went pretty well, I think. I might have said some slightly legally sketchy things about Joan McGovern, but it's okay. It wasn't being recorded. Oh, well, that's fine. All right. It was being recorded, but not for release. So that's fine. They just essentially now the British Moist Museum can blackmail me.

10:15If you want to. Yes. So we're doing that Great Northern Classics on the 26th of November. However, on the 10th of November, we are in Stanford doing a Smith and Steve Leibhler show, the Corn Exchange is Stanford on the 10th of December. We are at Car Barn, Beamish in County Durham, which is, yeah, message ends. Yeah, message ends, fantastic. We look forward to seeing all of you there. If you come, there's often repeated fenders. There's been to lots of our live shows, which is just strange, but also really, really wonderful. So thank you. It's great. But we will try to stop. Well, exactly. I was going to say there's a reason for that. Well, here also, because there's something I went to do last week and I forgot. There's three listener messages I wanted to read out, because they particularly peaked my interest in their not-artist sort of questions. Yeah. Although one is a sort of in response to an artist sort of question from a couple of weeks ago. But the first is from a listener called Dan Winfield. He says morning chaps, love the podcasts, make the week tick over as smoothly as a freshly

11:17built Jaguar straight six. Hmm. He says not sure if you caught BBC News this morning. That's the fourth of September for when you read this out three years later. But one of their sofa guests was the delightful Natalie and Brulia. It turns out that when she's not lying naked on the possibly heated bathroom floor, she's smoking around in a W163 vintage Mercedes ML. And she openly shares the dent it has made in her likely stylish purse to keep the pesky thing on the road. In the music video she's promoting, the actual car appears parked in the back of shot in a field with worryingly long grass, which from experience with Mercedes vehicles of that era. Lightly means it'll be causing the underside to fizz devastatingly with corrosion for the duration of the film shoot. Old choice for the Aussie songstress, perhaps her weekends are spent slavering wax oil into the Merck's cavities.

12:19So an old ML? An old ML. The ones that I don't like. Although they're supposed to be amazing. Yeah, I've been short this by two people. And yes, because they are separate chassis, aren't they? So they're probably pretty strong in that respect. Yeah. Yeah, that's a first gen ML. Or first of all, that's interesting. In Brulia, I think, does she now live? I have a feeling she sort of lives in the in the Cotswolds. So do you think? I think she does. I don't know why I think that. I think anyway, it doesn't matter. But if that's correct, do you think she's soaked up a bit of sort of Cotswoldian old money thinking? It is a bit old, isn't it? Yeah. And a brand new ML, not old money, but a really old knackered one that you just keep going, even though it would be cheaper to get something newer. That's quite old money behavior.

13:20It is old money behavior. Because she's better than devil she knows, etc. No, that was the other one. But surely the torn millions must mean that she could afford a newer and less troublesome car. She clearly doesn't want to. But she's got a huge underfloor heating bill to pay. That as well, because she leaves on all the time so that she can just basically spend her evenings lying on the bathroom floor. But then... Yes, this is it. But when she says bound and broken on the floor, perhaps that's actually a reference to her garage floor, where, as Dan says, she's been wax-oiling the ML again because she got to accidentally drove it through a puddle and now she's worried that she can hear. She can hear some fizzing from underneath there. So that was... I would worry with long grass, and I did this with my Mercedes. It wrapped around the prop shaft and then tore the rubber donut seal, the oil seal, and

14:20I ended up having quite a weep after that. Wow. Yeah, had to get that changed. In brilliant lightwanna bear that in mind, you can really damage your rubber seals where it just... it just cocks screws around the prop shaft and then tightens and tightens and tightens of its coarse grass and can do your rubber sealing. So you don't want that. Not thought about that. Wow. Okay. No. I mean, she doesn't. She's spending up on that car already. She bloody wax oil bill is up there with her electricity bill from all that underfloor heating, saying. Well, quite. Oh. There's some no-leb-men news. There's some I-Live-man no-leb-men news since the one of the last podcast. Yes. Probably since the last podcast, okay. I follow Edmonds on Instagram. 50% of the time it's interesting, okay? That's not a bad hit, right? Yeah. In general, is it? Yeah, I would say. But he was at... he was at the Manx Transport Museum, okay?

15:26Where am I? My insight is... Yes. Yeah. And I'd heard this was the case, but basically he said, I've got a really important announcement to make this coming very soon. And he said, he was stood next to four cars that he admitted were his. And I think... Right. ...because I've stood next to those cars and I was told that they were owned by him, but I wasn't allowed to sit on camera when I filmed the car cave there. I think Edmonds is about to unveil a corner of the museum with his car. With his own car in for display. There's a... Oh, yeah. There's a... there's a GT40. There's a mini-coup, there's a mini-van, there's a Rolls-Shadow. There's not a Z600 Honda, so I'm going to write to him and ask him, yeah. But I'm worrying that in the absence of the Z600, is he going to nick my insight? Huh. Because he loves a frugal Honda. He loves a frugal Honda. He might see it and go look, it's in a zesty color. Oh, it reminds me of when I put my leg up on one of those and stood outside my nice

16:31house in the 70s. I love that. I mean, what if he's just going to essentially, you know, possession is nine cents the law? You're not here, Johnny, and I am. That's... That's worrying. And I can't remember if I locked it. Oh, God. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, there's a Salis Relaison to you, too. I'm still out there. So he could be there. Well, watch out. It's a Salis Relaison to anyone with an economical Honda or indeed any car. Do lock it because watch out. There's an Edmunds about. And he just... He might just help himself. We, funnily enough, had a message from a listener called Tim. Tim Munk Mason, who actually signs himself Tim Munk Mason, E39530i, daily. Oh, wow. Good info. Yeah. He says, Kyora Chaps from... Oh, I can't pronounce that. Er... That's her. He's from New Zealand. It's a place in New Zealand.

17:31I recognise it written down, but I've never said it out loud. So I'm just going to say Auckland instead, even though that's not where he lives. Yes. Tim says, an update on No Edmonds, if I may. Oh, he's lived here since 2019. Currently, in the top of the South Island, where he's built a pub called The Bugger Inn. Bugger Inn. I suppose he wants you to say that quickly, so it sounds like buggering, doesn't he? The bugger inn. Yeah. Which is kind of funny for a bit, but I wouldn't build a pub around that. Yes. No, I know there's a thing, it's like those adverts that used to be in the Luzon Virgin trains that don't put sweaters and unwanted presents from your ex and stuff down there. It's like it's sort of funny the first time, but unfortunately, because it was also read out by the speaker in the Lou, it gets less and less funny until you want to just derail the whole train. Yes. So Tim says that No Edmonds' pub is in an area called now, hopefully, he's put this phonetically, an area called Nati Moti.

18:34It's a stunning part of the world, close to many national parks, so though he's proved a somewhat divisive figure with locals. Oh. And then he signs off Nami He, which he's also, hopefully, put phonetically, which means regards from New Zealand. So Tim seems to think that No El is still an honouring New Zealand, but maybe he is also monks. I think he's a man of two islands. One of them being New Zealand, the other being the island of man. Is it an island? Is it sparsely populated up there? Yes. Okay. Well, there we go. I mean, if anyone else has got any No El info, I genuinely have an email address for what, who I, the person I believe is still his manager or agent. So if you do want to drop him a line and just say, tell your client to keep his mitts off my insight. Well, hang on. I mean, a week tomorrow, I'm hoping to actually go over to the island man and parachute in, spend a few days there, hopefully with dad, my dad, Bob, and grab the insight and come home.

19:35I haven't spoken to the island of man motor museum to just check they could charge the battery of the Honduran stuff. But imagine if I could kill several birds with the stone. Right. And have a chat with Edmonds. See if I could buy that, that, that yellow BMW 5 series, the 520 one of them. And we got sent a picture of that. How did we know that? No, I haven't seen that. Yeah. Oh, listen, I called Will just a couple weeks ago. It said to hi guys, I'm on holiday on the island of man and have managed to come across the special order yellow 520i. Oh. I think it was mentioned on an old podcast. Yes. Also saw Johnny's insight at the museum and managed to resist pinching bits for mine. Everyone's after your insight. Will wants bits for his insight. He sent a picture though of the, that 520i looking pretty tidy. I have to actually, I mean, very casually parked outside a sign that leads me to believe this is called the convenience shopping center.

20:38Yes, I know the shop that it parks outside of because a few people have tipped me off that the lady drives there and gets papers and bread at the same time every day. Yes. Oh, really? Oh, well, there you go. But that's the thing you've got, you've got intel. I've got intel, but I just worry that someone, someone will come along and buy it when she's feeling weak and she'll forget about that message, which I wrote to him, put it under the screen when we were filming for fifth gear, all those many, many years ago. I think you've got to get over there, pronto. I do. I do. So, I was going to say that we also have, there's also some no-admonds intel. We have some havers intel. Oh, remember, on Otisot a couple of weeks ago, we had a message from a list with a BMW and it got into a bit of a low-key street race. David Hayes.

21:38Yes. So, a list of called, it's called Giles. Says, hello, you ancient Mariner and Regency Ball. It's an awful one. My father told me that he attended the opening of a new Sarp dealership in Exeter with Nigel Havers, who was introduced to the audience as a customer. There is. There is some chat between my father, Sarp 900 Turbo convertible in silver with dark grey leather, all of a sudden sold at the launch in Birmingham, the other went to the Patrick Motors collection. And my mother, Sarp 930 Estate, also in silver and equally leather, but more notably with a strong smell of golden retrievers. And acting legend, Nigel Havers about their various motors. However, due to my father's death and my mother's increasing forgetfulness, the details of his ownership or sadly remain forgotten. The Sarp 930 Estate should date the launch event to somewhere in the late 90s or early

22:382000s. Yeah. After my father died a few years later, I wheeled his old S-series westward ride on lawn mower, flame-red with yellow stripes, as of a garage to mow my mother's front lawn. It was a bit rusty, but typical of my father's motors, it did eventually start. I put the slightly odd exhaust note down to a hole in the exhaust pipe, as there was rust everywhere on the bodywork. I popped it into first gear, released the clutch, and very nearly went backwards off the seat as the rear wheels dug in and the bonnet rose alarmingly. I was still holding the gear lever, which saved me. I eased off the throttle and pulled the lever all the way down to fifth, I think, released the clutch again, and undertook a mildly more controlled wheelie. Sensing something was a miss and naturally not wishing to lose my life mowing the lawn, I turned it off and lifted the bonnet to fight what appeared to be a tuned Kawasaki 250 bike engine. What? The 10 horsepower brakes and strats engine. I remembered from my youth.

23:40One last laugh played on me by a man that drove a Mark III Ford Coutinus to work every day in the late 70s, but only after he'd asked car bodies in Coventry to turn it into a convertible and a local garage to replace the perfectly one point, perfectly acceptable, one point six liter engine with a Mustang engine. That was my father. Always a man looking to shoehorn an unfeasably large engine into a mundane car or lawn mower. Wow. That's the Kawasaki 250 bike engine. No wonder it really backfliped. Well, I know that's quite amazing, isn't it? With that gear box. That was a minor haver story that I thought developed into a more interesting anecdote. That's a lawn mower that I thought you'd appreciate. Well, also, like Charles, he sent us this story because he finishes by saying he's just pulled the trigger on a 1981 Matra Marina. Oh, has he? There's so much going on in this letter. This is great. I know. There's a busy one, isn't it?

24:40But he adds that it's because he was shuffled into one of the three seats of this mid-engined masterpiece by his father at the Birmingham Motor Show in 1981. Sadly, it's the 1.6, not the 2.2, but I will be buying your merch. So there we go. Charles, that's a hell of a rollercoaster ride of things for excellent. Well, maybe one day you could pick me up on the way to fetching Nigel Haves in it and we could have a... It's a road trip to somewhere. I don't know. A defunct sub dealer, perhaps. That's great. Oh, right. I know the location of the one, the defunct sub dealer that was near my old house in London. Yeah. Clung on for a bit as a sort of sub specialist after sub went down, but it's now... That's like, I saw, I think there was only a little showroom. There's one of those really old school shows that sort of built into like a Victorian building that could probably get like two cars in the showroom. Yeah. And I think it's been turned into like an accountant's office or something, it's been disappointing.

25:41That's very disappointing. Hmm. Therapy's biggest impact doesn't show up in some dramatic breakthrough. It shows up in the smallest moments. You bite your tongue instead of escalating. You put your phone down instead of firing off that text. You say what you actually mean instead of what would hurt someone else the most. Nobody applauds those moments, but they quietly change your life. That's what growing feels like and that's exactly what growth therapy is here for. Grow is therapy that works, covered by insurance. Investions average $21 with insurance and some pay as little as $0 depending on their plan. There are no subscriptions, no long-term commitments. You just pay per session. Grow connects you with thousands of high quality licensed therapists across the US, offering both virtual and in-person sessions, nights and weekends. You can search by what matters, like insurance, specialty, identity or availability. And you can book a therapy session in minutes and begin in as little as two days, not the

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27:46It relates to a topic that's close to your heart. But with a cautionary tale this is about piss vistas. Oh. Okay. So the listener says we can refer to him as David. But he hasn't told anybody else about this. So keep his surname out of it. Right. He says, good day, you pair of leggings. Johnny Ways, Alleyway interruption piss and ponch off of piss vistas reminded me of my greatest and most humiliating piss vista. While working for a computer games company as an artist I was fortunate enough to travel to Pike's Peak for the hill climb. Absolutely wonderful experience that I highly recommend to anyone who gets the chance. Even just driving up it is an experience in itself. I got to drive the hill climb before the racing commenced and take many, many photos. Most people take pictures of the incredible views. I took pictures of the roads, rocks, signs, plants, stones, etc. Every new surface, interesting rock, object, sign or building that presented itself.

28:47For those unaware of the process of making driving games this was so we could turn these photos into textures and objects for the Pike's Peak level of the game, achieving the most realistic experience possible. As I reached a high altitude, diligently mapping out the wonders of each new road texture I realized I needed a P. Towards the top there is very little vegetation and it's quite exposed. It's a found somewhere to park, climbed over and down some rocks and discovered a vista of all vistas. I'm convinced I could see the entire world before me, the curvature of the earth, the biggest sky I'd ever seen. It was spectacular. Cocooned on three sides by rocks I started the much needed piss. With a wave of relief I began to fiddle looking over the beauty of America only to glimpse movement in my peripheral vision. I turned to see a large rodent-type animal climb over the rock to my right and move close enough that I could have reached out and touched it.

29:49It sat and stared at me with its beady little eyes. This I later found out was a marmot. They stand about 50cm high, looked like the love child of a beaver and a guinea pig that's discovered carbs. I'm then gone on a retreat in the mountains. In normal circumstances I'd have been delighted to see a chunky little critter looking adorable. But when you have your disco stick out these things look fucking terrifying. It became very apparent that I could not stop pissing so the front was a sheer drop to my left was an unclimable rock and to my right was a massive rat thing with even bigger teeth. I realised I had absolutely no idea whether these things were curious friendly creatures or psycho-nutters. Either way, being as exposed as I was, I didn't want to find out. No. No. It seems very tough. There was no sign of my peeing subsiding so I turned to face away thinking a bite on

30:51the arse or an attack from behind would be preferable to losing my manhood. Looking back over my shoulder at this surprisingly large creature I suddenly thought, fuck it might have rabies. Just as that thought crossed my mind it moved. Only a little, a twitch as rodent things tend to do, but enough to completely freak me out. Instinct took over and I tried to escape up the way I'd come down all while still urinating. What? I attempted to climb back up the rocks in a blind panic, holding my flesh flute to protect it and trying to clamber one-handed. My unfass and shorts dropped, I tripped, I slid down and landed sitting back against the rock, facing the beast, cock out and pissing all over myself with my shorts tangled around my ankles. Oh no! God! What a mess! This point dignity left the mountain.

31:52I pulled up my shorts and scrambled back up the way I'd come, bruised, battered and covered in my own urine. As I reached the road with the car finally in sight, I clashed my shorts and hurried towards it, having mostly stopped pissing mostly. Oh my god! From leaving the car to getting back in was probably only a total of five to ten minutes at most, but it was without doubt the most harrowing pee of my life. Gosh, what a shame that it got so ruined, it sounded like piss bliss. Well, for a brief moment it probably was, but yeah, David concludes by saying for your information, mamets are mostly harmless and less cornered or attacked. I would have pissed, I would have pissed at it personally. I thought that's what he's going to do, I would have pissed at it and then if it lunged for you, you could quickly duck and swerve. I'd say. So, I would have just, yeah. David doesn't, I mean, there's no real need for us to know this, but I'm just curious

32:54as to what happened next in terms of having to then drive back down the legendary pikes peak with your in sodden clothes on, but it's best not to dwell on that, I guess. It's, yeah, that's a shame that that's happened. I've, yeah, I've only had a small insta when it was on an amazing hilltop vista with nobody around, but there was a crosswind and the wind changed direction and I didn't have a chance to alter my, my trajectory and therefore it, yeah, it kind of, it just coated me a bit, which is a shame because it was otherwise really enjoyable. Anyway, look, we could talk about this more, but we shouldn't. Yeah. Well, I mean, should we just restore a sort of small amount of dignity and car-based chats, but dipping into the adverts from our friends at Caron Classic. Yes, please, Richard.

33:55As regular listeners know, this podcast is sponsored by Caron Classic in every week. One of us in a mythical billionaire's world buys, in InvertedCommerce, a car from Caron Classic for the other, something they think would really delight them. It's my turn to pretend buy for Johnny this week. So what I've done is I've selected something. I, I think we've sort of generally, we've been, cars quite modestly priced in the past few weeks. Yeah, we have. We have. I think the last really expensive one was I bought you a T16, didn't I? That was half a million year-old. Yes, that was the exception. And I felt bad for you pretending spending that much money. So I'm trying to make amends, and that's why this week I've bought you something, well, it's a bit special. But look at that. Right. It's also, you know, they say, you buy presents for people that you want yourself. Well, these are a personal favorite of mine, but I think you will appreciate this as well.

34:55Gosh, that's beautiful. So, wow, it's a, it's a stack headlight Mercedes convertible. So 1970, W111, 280SE, but the 3.5, the V8. Well, that's, yes. And you see these around and often they're left hand drive. This is a right hand drive one as well. Oh, I hadn't, I hadn't clocked that yet. I'm looking at the pictures. Yes. Oh, yes. Now, for people who are listening and aren't familiar with the, the W11 shape, but it's that they might be known as the car from the hangover that they borrow, they get to borrow for the stack due in Las Vegas. That beautiful convertible Mercedes from the 60's into the 70's. So, I guess this is quite a later one as next to 1970. Now, it's near as damage 275,000 pounds. These are really sought after cars, I guess, particularly in this spec because it is the 3.5. It is right hand drive.

35:56Right hand drive. Yeah. Gosh. It's being sold by a renowned Mercedes specialist as well. And I think that probably counts for some reason. It's in the Mercedes colour too, the silver grey metallic, which, yes. This ear of Mercedes looks so nice and so, and it looks so crisp and well finished. Yeah. They just have a sort of sturdiness to them that I think is bored out by the way they're put together. They have those sort of beautiful dashboards with the woods and there's quite elegant steering wheels with the inner ring and stuff, black leather interior. But yeah, you're right, the silver as well, classic silver. It's going to have, it's an auto. It's going to have a wonderfully slurry auto change on it, that car, but with a bit of V8 burr. It is. Can I say it might be, this might have the coolest fuel gauge of any classic car. It's definitely up there. I remember the first time I clocked it because my best mate, Dan, years ago, had a three

37:00and a half liter, a two, two ATSE three and a half. Do they? Yeah, he did. He did, but it wasn't a convertible. It was a saloon. And I remember at the time he pushed the boat out and bought one for four grand and we were like, oh, you're spending a lot of money. And I look back now, it was, that was probably 20, 20 something year, it might be 20 years ago, but it's like goodness. It was absolutely. That was a saloon. Yeah, and it was, his was right hand drive and he regretted selling it even though he made up 1,500 quid on it, which he thought was great. So he ended up buying another one from Berlin, which was a US import, very odd things. So someone had imported an American car into Germany, so Russ free example of the mark. And to this day, he's never got it on the road. He's still sort of doing it up, I think, but he was, it came with no engine and he put

38:02a modern OM diesel in it before people were doing big car rolling coal. And it was converted to run on Vege oil. And I think that car's still not been completed, which is a shame because I think it would be such a good usable classic. But this rich is, I can actually see myself driving down the road in this and, well, yeah, I think I feel like they become so valuable. I don't want to think that's the words. They're just, they're incredibly tasteful, but really cool, I think. Yeah, I feel like I would have to, it would make me dress sharper if I drove this. I know I would, I'd just like to transfer the band. Yes. Yes, a lot of quite big collars, but open, showing a bit, just a bit of chest hair. I would. Yeah. In a refined way.

39:02And I tell you why I mean, I just, oh gosh, I'm looking at my pictures. I've just realised if memory serves me correct. Yeah, it's got the gorgeous steering wheel. Absolutely love this ear on the steering wheel. And this is a, this is a textbook parming car. You could parm the daylight out of this. Yes. Couldn't you? Absolutely. Absolutely. That's the thing. It's almost, once you put the car into gear, I think your left hand can be, you know, it's fundamentally redundant. Or you could choose to parm with your left and your right could perhaps be just dangling outside, smoking a very slender cigar if you so chose. Oh, yeah. But it is, it is a very, it's a classic one handed car, I would say this. Do you know, I do, just to make people like question it slightly, is I would drink my espresso from an actual ceramic espresso cup with a saucer while driving this along what between finger and thumb, because I think it would just be there.

40:05You could do that. This is love it. You know, this is when, and also my brother would pipe up and say, this, this build quality is from an engineering perspective, it's like no other. And yes. And weirdly, having just watched the second episode of the Grand Tour last night with my lad, Weson, Francis Bourgeois is in a convertible AMG, isn't he? In that episode in Singapore. And I looked at that car and when I didn't realise it at the time, but I think that early to mid-2000s of Mercedes, which I said before, is probably one of the, I get one of those highest points of Mercedes product line and desirability build quality. It's a good looking car, that thing, the CLK AMG Cabrio. And I was like, it's not a car, would ever consider buying normally and I'm looking at that going, probably would have one of those. I miss having a Mercedes. Yeah. I miss having a Mercedes, because I had so many before Mercedes.

41:06Well, before you and I guys started doing this and when I first started fifth gear, I had a Mercedes for ages, at least one. At one point, my brother had a pool Mercedes between us. We had a Mercedes each. So we had a spare Mercedes as our backup dancer. And then, yeah, and I always thought, I've had a good few of them, three, I've had a 320 E Sportline, seven CTA, which was F-E, that was the one that I accidentally pissed outside the guys house. That I've told you about. Oh, that one, of course. Of course, yes. Yes. What I say, I was a Dania, it was intentional, but it was very different. It was very different. It was very different. Well, car, I mean, look, car and classic, we know, is the place to go for just sheer temptation, buying cars either by classified or auction. And gosh, I'm now, I've just gone straight into Mercedes of a certain era.

42:07There's 3,170 mx of the right kind of era that you'd want to buy. That's a lot of work. I feel like I've got to throw a row, retire, round your waist and pull me in. Can you please pull me in? Can you please pull me in? Because we've got a podcast to finish and you'll be there all day. Just looking at. I mean, I would as well. Yeah. And remember, kids. So many cars, a little time. Yeah. Call it what you will. I would call it the gateway drug, download the car and classic app. And then it'll be even easier to get hooked in. But make sure someone's got a ship and a truck to pull you back out again. Otherwise, you'll be trapped inside the downstairs toilet for hours. People have think you've put in. One of the most fascinating, slightly scary things when I went to a formula E-Race and in the pits when the cars come in. There is someone who is just standing there with an enormous shepherd's crook effectively. Oh, yes. But you notice that the hook end is basically sort of torso.

43:08Yes. Proportions. That's right. And it's nylon, isn't it? I think it's in nylon. Yes, it is definitely a non-conductive material for obvious reasons, because it is there in case anybody accidentally touches a part of the car that has become live because with DC, your body effectively locks. But locks you in place touching the thing that is electrocuting you. Oh, you can't release, can you? You can't release. So you have to be yanked away by somebody who is safely insulated from that. Yeah. That's why also the drivers in formula E-R-Tort, I don't know if this now applies in F-Wild as well because obviously the cars have an electrical part in their hybrid systems, when you get out, you jump out, you don't ever put one foot on the ground with one foot on the car because then you would just be in case the car is become live in somewhere, you just earth it. Yes. So you jump. And across your body is how you die, isn't it? Basically.

44:09Yeah, there's the shock across. Oh, Rich, can we talk about the return of cold trickle, please? Oh, yes. Because you sent me a picture off of Tom Kruz. Kruz off of all of the films. Yeah. With a release that people will now know that Days of Thunder is coming back, Days of Days off of the Thunder. Days out of Thunder, yeah. Apparently so. And I can't believe, so that was 1990 Days of Thunder. It's decided to wait. It was 1990, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Robert DuVal is no longer with us. He's recently died, doesn't he? So he won't be in it. But then again, he was about 110 then. So. Yeah. But I just don't know. So Tom's in it as the main guy against it. It's almost continuing on with this, like the Top Gun Maverick sequel, which is he?

45:09But this is the thing, it's got Top Gun Maverick. Yeah. Now we've got Days of Thunder 2. Yeah. So apparently it's not going to be released until summer 2028. They're doing some very early. That was kind of saying that's. That's way early, isn't it? It's Tom Cruise just now, like essentially he's decided in his later career. He's just going to remake films from his early career. We're getting Rain Man 2 next. And then I don't know, Color of Money 2. It doesn't. It's funny, isn't it? There's Southern happening. Rain Man 2 would probably work. Right. I suppose in a way. Well, yeah, I mean, God knows that you can see, what, what, they're going to just sort of pick it up. Look 40 years later. But then they're making in between us three. And I can't quite work that one out because they're all in their 40s. Like what's happening here? Tom Cruise is not in that. Well, maybe he is. Maybe that's the thing now. He's just, I'm a sequels guy.

46:10I only do sequels. He cuts, but he cuts. He cuts, but he's related sequels. Maybe he's... A lot of the people in it, I feel too old to be doing this. That's my bag now. Is he in, yeah, is he in like, a tropic thunder two, is that a funny, hilarious character, which I thought he looked at. Oh, yeah. He's brilliant in that, isn't he? Yeah, I read about that. I read about that. So stupid. That one of the things, he said that he, to enable him to inhabit that character, he needed to have like, sort of big, fat hands. And so... Yes. And he wanted to film a fake hands, because he wanted to, he just thought, he's a guy. He's a sort of thick, limbed kind of guy. And so they, they, they, prosthetic hands, I think four arms as well, didn't they? So he can do all that stuff, the G6, whatever it is that he's doing. It's a, a, a credible bit of work. It is. The dancing, right? It is. It's the dancing, right? Therapy's biggest impact doesn't show up in some dramatic breakthrough. It shows up in the smallest moments.

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48:13That's growtherapy.com slash acast. Growtherapy.com slash acast. Availability and coverage vary by state and insurance plan. Hey y'all, Kelly Clarkson here with Wayfair. You know my favorite compliment during the holidays? Your house feels so cozy. That's when I know everyone's comfortable enough to kick off their shoes, grab more dessert and stay a little longer. Wayfair makes it easy with everything from dining furniture to festive guestroom essentials all in one place. So whether you're hosting for an afternoon or all weekend, everyone feels right at home. Get holiday guests ready at wayfair.com or on the Wayfair app today. Wayfair every style, every home. So I don't know the details about Days of Thunder, but I don't think anyone does, but there's the release to not fall off. The only other thing is the teaser photo had him. The photo is interesting. You assume that Tom cruises of a sort of stature in the movie world that he gets approval

49:16over things like this. But the photo I thought was not particularly flattering. He sort of looked like he was wearing a loose rubber mask of his own face. I'll be sure to tell him. I'll be sure to tell him. I'll be sure to tell him. Yes, please do. Sorry, Tom. He's studying with his co-star for the film, which is Anne Hathaway. Oh, yes, it is Anne Hathaway. I thought it was Emily Blunt, but I get those mixed up sometimes. Oh, do you? Yeah. I... Some people seem to have a problem with Anne Hathaway. I don't. I can't. Really? I can't. I call her Han. Han. Han Hathaway. Oh, right. Well, you should email her to that effect. Is it? Yeah. I think Han Hathaway sounds like a cooler name than Anne Hathaway. Yeah. So that's what I'm going to call her. Yeah, I hope they don't screw it up. I really liked Days of Thunder. I know that I've said before that I thought it was a better film than Top Gun, but that's

50:17because at that moment in time, in 1990, as an 11-year-old or so, 10-year-old, it did more for me. I think it's because I was more interested in four wheels than I was Aero-Nortix. But I've matured now, and I accept them both. Does he ever say in that film, I feel the need, the need for speed, but along the ground. Yes. Ground-based speed. Ground-based speed. No, it's just ground speed. That's right. Yeah. I... My memory of Days of Thunder is that it wasn't amazing. It was... Come on. I mean, it was a spectacle, but I don't... Wasn't the plot a bit shit? I can't remember. Well, it was nice because a lot of times as I've seen it. It was 1990, rich. I mean, you've got rowdy burns in it, is art, Chenamy. And of course, they did the smashing up of the rental cars on the beach. And Nick Olkibman is the love interest of Tom Cruise because she's the doctor who tries to help repair him and pretty much tells him that he's living a reckless life, but then

51:20falls, foam, and starts coming to races with him and understands that although she does not agree with him risking his life to just drive cars faster than the other guys, she knows that's what makes him tick. He does that thing where he can't remember, uses her inner thigh as a racing line. There was something slightly perforated. I don't quite remember it, but it involved explaining how you slipstream, I think. Right. Yeah. And she was very much... Her character was very much the Kelly McGillis of people who drive racing cars rather than fly fighter jets. Completely. And I think the best part was obviously that track, Show Me Heaven by Maria Michini. Show Me Devon by Maria Michini. Exactly. Show Me Devon. So that was the, you know, take my breath away, top gun, I'd take my breath away. Days of Chunder had, um, had to show me Devon. Show Me Devon. Which I think is a really cool track. So yeah. And do you know what, that's got to work with your Dawson's Creek about it.

52:23Show Me Heaven. It has, hasn't it? Yeah, because of this, just sort of intro. So I, yeah. Realized after, I was funny, I think we were in a Starbucks in the US. And we'd been talking about Dawson's Creek music while we were driving and then we pulled in to get a coffee. And it's only just like yesterday, suddenly Penny dropped. I was like, the modern version of Dawson's Creek music is the stuff they play in Starbucks. It could be sort of, they do play a lot of gentle singer songwriter stuff. Yeah. I think in Starbucks. Is it sort of a playlist thought provoking guitar music? Yeah. Yeah. If you wanted to go and stand in a rowing boat looking wistfully out at a lake at dusk. Or a row, yeah, Starbucks playlist would be in the modern world. Yeah. I'm hoping to sit wistfully in my boat this weekend because hopefully my niece will have

53:25finished painting it. Which should be great. And I've had a, I've had my little jetty redone so that it hopefully doesn't disappear at a storm this winter. Oh, yeah. So yeah, that I could, maybe when you come over next for the Stanford live show, we could we could do a Dawson's Creek version. We could record a podcast on the boat. On the boat. On the boat with a couple of twinkling little lights. Yeah. Yes. You could have an oversized coat on. Yeah, it could be, yeah, it could be. I might grow my hair to look to be like curtains like mine were in 1990. Perfect. Yeah, we set the scene with some very soft thought provoking music. Oh. Anyway. Well, we cracked it. I wanted to read out a very, it's not even a reading out of letter. It's not even a letter. It's a screen grab of a very amusing thing which got sent to us by a sweet sweet guy called Gordon Gunn. And I have to say that everybody who sends stuff to us, they are sweet sweet guys.

54:28But it says, good morning. You're probably have non functioning BMW indicators. After my wife and I thoroughly enjoyed your live show off of Glasgow and the reference to car ads featuring not being bothered. I occasionally now search certain platforms for keywords such as that perusing an old benty for sale this morning. It stated it was built by a proper racing chap. So the search was on to find how many adverts had the word chap in the description. Oh, check it. Oh, check it. It's a good one. It's a very good one. Disappointing, Lee says, a lot of adverts were for average dross like Dacia Sandero's. I was expecting a sea of FMT suitable vehicles. However, I found a very amusing reference to chap in the attached advert for a Persio 2008. And it comes on any centre screen, so if you're watching this, we'll put it on the screen now. And it says a description, chap tax 20 pounds for one year full service history.

55:29Only two owners from here. Eight service dabs drives good. You les. It's chap tax. It's chap tax, which chap to. OK. So, so what you suddenly grow a thin moustache and start wearing suits in the daytime and going, oh, hello, and suddenly you're slapped with an additional tax. That's interesting. I didn't know that existed, but yeah, he's put, what could this chap tax be? A reference to FMT wearers, whether brighter your trousers, the more tax you pay, are there any other ideas? Maybe one for the listeners. Thanks for the podcast. CMT and B Gordon. It's a good, a chap tax. I think, yes, you see, if you have to hold open ten doors a day for a lady, not one lady, but multiple ladies, perhaps. Yes. And raise an eye, but if you say something with any mild innuendo. Yeah. Oh, shit. I got into a small British roadster from the 60s by jumping over the door rather than

56:31opening it and I've got a bill from the HMRC, I can't believe it. Just because, just because I played tennis while smoking a cigarette using a wooden racket. Chap tax. And lowered my sunglasses slightly while going, my goodness, when two young women walk past and now look at it, I was suddenly, I mean, hawk for an extra four grand. Yes. So, God, the chap tax, well, watch out on that. Yeah, you've got to be careful of this chap tax. I tell you, that really made me, that really made me giggle. I know. Chap tax. And on a slightly cary front. Okay. I promised I would mention last week and then we didn't get to it because we were talking about the A2 and the Spritting stuff. Yeah. But the return sort of of the Bristol fighter. Oh, yes. Oh, your fighter. Oh, your fighter, to quote Jason Plato. Yeah, it's back. I mean, Bristol is back, or so they say, there will be more from them in future.

57:36But to kick it off, essentially, there were five left over fighter chassis when Bristol collapsed. Yeah. And then, weirdly, because of who bought the remains of Bristol, they were stashed underneath the old B.O.C. building in Surrey, which is now where Gordon Murray works out of and has his car collection. That's right. Stash. Well, if you think of that, that building. I've been to it several times. It's fascinating. It's such a strange, it just feels like you're going on to a different planet. If you were to put a space suit on and walk slowly, I think you could convince people if you videoted it, that you were in a different world. It's so odd. It looks like a space station from the 80s. Yes, I saw it. There was a period when it was empty, I think, and some urban explorers went into it. It was a fascinating looking building. I sort of wonder what it'd be like to work, though, whether it'd be really cool or actually sort of a bit odd.

58:36No, I know. But anyway, it's an interesting building. But yeah, they had five left over chassis. They were stuffed underneath that building. And they've now been rescued, and they're going to turn them into complete Bristol fighters. So Dodge Viper V10, which is eight liters. It's about 500 sort of 510 horsepower, but then you can have it. Well, ultimately, they'd say that there's a twin turbo option, which is something stupid, like a thousand horsepower, which I think is just based on the fact that people do that for their Viper's in the US, so it's effectively sort of off the shelf kit. I've driven a Bristol fighter when Bristol was still going. And it was a likable thing. It felt very sort of tough. Did it? Quite well engineered with. Yeah, it just had to sort of heft to it, like a peeling.

59:40And I drove it in the company of Toby Silverton, who was the man who owned Bristol at that point. And he's in his interest to talk it up, but he talked a good game. And the fact that he said, oh, it's got galling doors because we did the sort of ergonomic interior bark. And when we put the windscreen pillars where we wanted them for excellent forward visibility with a very wrap around screen, it was very hard to then engine in conventional doors. So we went to gall wings instead. And that was why it has them. It's not just to be showy offy. He sort of claimed it was for sound ergonomic reasons. And that car, he says that when they designed it, every single component down to every little clip and tie was weighed. And that weight was logged because that's sort of standard aviation practice and enabled them to see where they might be able to save a few grams or whatever. So he made it sound very sort of like a thorough job. The interior switches were, again, it sort of claimed they were, they were from a supplier

1:00:44that does military stuff because they just have to be incredibly durable. So they chosen those. I mean, impossible to check, but I like the story. And it drove really nicely. At one point, he went, we sort of down to walking pace in traffic and he went, put it in fifth. It's a bit like, well, you know, we're doing sort of like less than 10 miles an hour. So I put it in fifth. It'll do it. I put it in fifth and it just sort of, it just sort of chugged. It's got, yeah. Well, I mean, as you'd expect, it's quite a big hearty. It's a tall high displacement engine. It's a talking engine. So no, it was really likable, really likable. And you know, it drove quite nicely and it pulled well. And I sort of remembered the viper as apart from the ACR viper, I briefly drove it. The viper didn't, the engine felt quite tight-chested and in the fight, it didn't. They claimed that Bristol had redone some things with the engine. I don't know if there'll be the case this time around. I don't know what they did so it last time. The the mappable nature of modern engines is such that you could make it behave very differently.

1:01:47But the thing that's going to interest me with this is Bristol's were always so madly priced compared to anything that resembled a rival. Nothing rational would make you choose one. So people who bought those Bristol's were like, well, it's because I want to be one of only 10 people who have that car in the world and that's that. And I do get that. But on the flip side, right now, I'm thinking to myself, are these going to be like Cone Exec money? Or are they going to be Aston Martin money? What are they going to be? Oh, Cone Exec money. Well, the word on the street is it's sort of looking like a million quid, I think. Bloody hell. I mean, you'd have to really want one. You would. I don't know. I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Bristol's and I do find this sort of preposterously appealing but at the same time, you'd have to have a lot more than a million quid to want to spend a million quid on it because there's so many other things you could have for that.

1:02:49And there are so fabulous cars you have for a lot less than that. So it and even, you know, because of course, the thing with this is they've assembled one car now on one of these leftover chassis, which was how they announced this comeback and it's done sort of very tastefully black paint tan leather. The other four, you can have them spec'd exactly how you want them even down to the engine. But you know, you could spec a Bentley Continental GT or a Rolls Royce specter. Yeah. Exactly how you wanted it and still have a bit of change for a million quid, quite a lot of change in fact. You know, that's not the sell it once was when Bristol was, you know, quirkily handmade. Yeah. I'm curious where they're going to make these as well because obviously the Bristol factory is long gone. But they're saying they've still got all the original drawings and things, which is how they know how to put these together. And they will be registered because technically they'd started production. The chassis were built and have vins.

1:03:50Oh, is it going to be mastermind? I've started so I'll finish. Yeah. My understanding is these will be able to be counted as cars from sort of 2011 or whenever they were built. Wait, yeah, when was it? Was it about that 2011 time? Bristol perhaps? In 2011, yeah. I think I drove the fighter in about 2008 or 2009 maybe. I've never driven a Bristol. I mean, I've done three barn fine bristles, but I've not driven any of them fired. When I drove the fighter, one of the brilliant slight of hand things that they did was that I said, how many of these have you made and they went, they said something like, well, chassis number 43 is in build at the moment, which allows you to infer that they have built 42 and the 43rd is on the way. But no, I think the general consensus is that they made nine of them. And in fact, one of them no longer exists because, well, actually, I don't know that.

1:04:50Neil Clifford out of Chris Harris' podcast had a fighter. He's also the man who bought Bristol cars. Of course, he's on side of the show. Yeah, yeah. And then had the mention it, so he can change which letters are lit up in honor of the way the sign itself, he's to malfunction, I can't say. But yeah, Neil's fighter was crashed and he doesn't have any more. I don't know if it was actually written off or if it was sold through, you know, salvage and if someone would put it back together. It's obviously a very rare car, but equally, is this the most expensive rare but nobody cares car? I think it's the most expensive rare. I was just thinking that and also I was wondering whether or not Neil Clifford is the man to order the first one as a bit of closure on the fighter that he lost. He lost. No, Neil's. No, Neil's. I don't know whether Neil would be in a position to spend that kind of coin, but it would be rather interesting. And I, like you say, there are an odd car.

1:05:53I like the early arrow aluminium bodied ones, you know, the very, very aerodynamic bristles. Not so sure about some of the later ones, but yeah, I enjoy doing Voundfund bristles. Yeah, well, they're interesting aren't they? But I would love a, like a Rastomodid 411. Oh, completely. Particularly an earlier 411 with a single round headlights, but then just have it. Bristol themselves used to, you could take one back to the factory, or to the repair centre in West London. They would update the engine to a more modern spec and they would do, you know, these things like that, they had a kit that would make them a little reduced wind noise and stuff like that. So they sort of evolved them and you could do all that and I always thought I'd love to do all that on, they have it retrimmed, but in the proper leather and by the people who did it originally. You know who should build these, who should build these bristles? It should be retro power. Ah. Because they're doing a, they're doing a beautiful Rastomod, not reliant similar type, they

1:07:01are doing a reliant similar type, but they're doing a Jensen interceptor at the moment, using a, a Mo-Pire engine because they said it would be too easy to do an LS or a Ford. So they're doing, using a, you know, that Dodge Hemi might have been a Hellcat engine. And you think, can you imagine that? The Bristol with the, with the, it's got the V10 in it, but could have turbos, new ECU and then just build the chassis and the suspension, how you want it and the interior, how you want it. I can't, I mean, I always. Wow. Is we on that source? Yeah. And inside of things, we should bring things to a close on that side of thoughts of things. Yeah, on that side of thoughts. Oh. But, yeah. Okay. Well, yeah, we should bring this to an end, but before we go, three things to tell you, the first is of course that Johnny has a solo YouTube channel called The Lake Break Show. What might be on there when this podcast goes? Well, I can't remember when this podcast goes out, Rich. So that's the answer to that.

1:08:03Well, if you haven't seen it already, there's a brist, there's a Bristol barn. One find. Oh. Which will have gone out not that long ago. So I would recommend you watch that. It's a Dutchy double-bound find. There's that. And if you haven't watched it also, the hashtag it'll do it all day, but it won't actually unless you don't want to put more water in it. The steam car cold start video that I did from a go. You had a big car collection and he had two steam cars, a Stanley and a Doble. And the Doble is a very different beast. The Doble was like the Rolls-Royce of the steam car world and you could warm it up in about three minutes from cold, which was revolutionary. Yeah. Whereas the Stanley took a good half an hour or so. So yeah, put that in your pipe and smell it. The second thing to say is that mentioned live shows earlier on, you can buy tickets through the links on our website, smithandsniff.com. Just follow the link to the live shows page.

1:09:05We also have merchandise. We have goodies in some designs, including Doble.2, which I'm wearing today. And we have t-shirts, we have mugs, we have stickers. We have great plans to do more designs. In the future, we're just working on that at the moment. Sland, the third thing I was going to say is, Buster Maryfield who played Uncle Albert in any Fawson horses used to be a bank manager. Did he? Yeah, he came to acting late, he was a bank manager. That's ridiculous. That's because we were just talking about... Oh, we were just talking about... Yeah, because we were just talking about... The other day we were in the process. I have the theme tune. What I was. I had this nagging feeling I might have shared this fact on the podcast before, but maybe not people can tell me if I did, but I... Yeah, it just came to mind because we were talking about only Fawson horses and we both agreed that the theme tune is actually a bit annoying. I don't like the theme tune. No, I love the show that the theme tune was annoying. The other fact about the theme tune is that for some reason people often seem to think

1:10:07that it was sung by Nicholas Lindhurst who played Rodney in the show. And weirdly, it was actually sung by John Sullivan who wrote the show. Yeah, but he does sound like him. He does. He pulled a bit of a Dennis Waterman by writing the theme tune and singing the theme tune to his own show. That's right. Well, and the fourth thing I want to share with you is that did you know that the oldest animal in existence that's still living is called Jonathan and is a social giant tortoise. So I feel that I've fallen. I mean, I would have guessed tortoise in a way because you are old, aren't they? Yeah, it would just... If you'd forced me with a gun telling the oldest animal, what creature is it? I wouldn't have said, oh, I don't know, hamster. The silly. That's the insect. Yeah. Yeah, it hatched in 1832 and it's still eating grass in the same plantation house on St Helena where it hatched.

1:11:08So about 194, is it? Yeah, I think it's 194 years old. That's amazing. Go on, Jonathan. Jonathan. All right, well, there we go then. Thanks for this and now, all the hypocritically, I will sing us out with the theme tune to our own show. Thanks for listening. Good bye. Bye-bye, you turbots.

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