Q&A 118 - Six wheeled filler fest

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2:07when you receive an email from them as C123, which I believe to be the Mercedes internal code name for the coupé version of the W123 saloon. That is true. You are right. That's the one I've never owned. Have I? No, I've never owned the 124 coupé. Oh, yeah. Well anyway, I'd like to call my eye immediately, in fact the listeners signs themselves off as John. So their message says, hello, you pair of poor signpeckers. On a recent show, you two were discussing right-hand drive jeeps and what not for mail carriers in America. Yes. And this guy's thinking, what would you lot pick as the best chariot for an American rural mail carrier? Here are some key criteria. Must be over 25 years old to be legally importable. Must be reasonably sturdy with good ground clearance for rough country roads. Yes. Just have a solid amount of interior space to store many letters, packages, etc.

3:08Yet still maneuverable for tight spaces. It mustn't be excessively expensive, say $20,000 maximum budget to leave room for shipping, paperwork, etc. Must be from the UK, not Japan or similar and never sold in left-hand drive for America. Ergo, no old defenders and what not. Okay. The humble postman pat in question is a bit tired of the JDM fad and desires something rather more obscure. Note, fuel economy is not a serious concern, I believe this is paid for by the post office. Discuss. Personally, I'm inclined towards the classic bedfad rascal. Until then, see you then drive safely in good night. John. Well, okay. I mean, well, the bedfad rascal. I mean, John, for a technically Japanese, it's a Suzuki super carry. I was about to say that, but I didn't want to be a pedantic, pedantic person. But you are right. It was a Japanese design. A Suzuki with a looted accent.

4:09Yeah, yeah. Also, are they sturdy? I suppose they're sort of what the rascal. I mean, if they're not rotten, they're sturdy. If they're not overlaid and my problem with that is if you had 500 kilos of stuff in them, I think they would suddenly be a little bit tired. Yes. There'd be a bead of sweat on that little mid-engine area. As soon as John made the note about fuel economy not being a serious concern, my mind immediately went to a V8-powered Sherpa ambulance. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's a good call or an X-Police. Or an X-Police, right? Right van. Yeah, actually, that's better. Forget the ambulance. Right van. Because, well, reasonably sturdy. Grand Clearance is all right. Certainly loads of interior space, not that expensive, originally from the UK, and to any other result.

5:10And fuel economy, well, it doesn't matter. So that's fine. So, yeah, I'm just a bit predictably, but I'm going to go for a V8 Sherpa. And it would have American engine, obviously, the roots from America and some lovely BF-goodrich white letter tires just to make it look special. Why not? Yes. And if not that, they did a V6 transit for a while, didn't they? Yeah, they did. So I think I drove one of them. As a backup. Yeah. And again, it's sort of, it's a fault. So, I don't know what the fans would have. Because of those, the era of transit, they weren't sold in the US. But I suppose the, that Cologne V6 did make its way over there in some things. So, sort of known quantity for getting bits and stuff. Yes. Is he definitely gone to the van, or can I be a bit silly with this? I don't know. No, it says just, no.

6:10Best chariot for an American rural male carrier is what John says. So, only because I can't think of anything better right now. That's British right now. I did think to myself, they had the Cadillac Catera, which was the Opal Omega. But you couldn't get one in a state form, right? No, the Cadillac was sedan. Sedan only. Could you treat them to an Omega 3.2? 0.2 V6. Yeah. With some, all season tyres, of course. Yes. And cop spec suspension, if that, or whatever, a thing. And seats removed at the back, so it's sort of like a van. Or, six door limousine, Omega. Like a kin to the Eagle Quest. Yes. But we know, self-leveling rear suspension, you can get that bad boy up in the air.

7:12The ass can go right up in the air. And genuinely comfortable, durable, was a very good era of general motors, I thought. We universally agree, Richard. Experts agree. Yes. Experts agree. So we could do that. And as I'm saying that, I'm thinking, am I missing something rover-ish? Or am I missing something jagish? I mean, I suppose you could say, we'll get a Jag X type of state, and as long as it's forward-drive-on, but they were sold in the US, so it sort of doesn't feel... Could you buy an X type in the US? I did not know that. Yeah, the X type was sold in the US for a while then. Was it really X-S for me? Yeah. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. You're making me doubt myself now, but I... I've never seen one. Yeah. Yeah, there were some in the US. So that's something that wasn't sold there. I mean, I know it's not UK as such, but they were sold in the UK and not in the US,

8:13and you could get them in right-hand drive, and it's something close to your heart. A rancho. A post rancho. Oh, I mean, the post-person employee who had to drive it on a daily basis would probably hate me for saying this, because I think in standard form, they're a bit crap. But... Yeah. Postal rancho. Oh, they just sort of look right. Don't know. They just think they do. They are both sort of outdoorsy looking for rural US locations, but they are in some sort of van-shaped without being a van. Yeah, and if you have one like my run show was that was converted for mobility purposes at the back, it has a very low drop deck at the back that you could walk into with the hatchback that hinged up. You've made me realise that I don't know if you've seen the most recent video of Yorkshire car restoration on my run show, but it is looking absolutely amazing.

9:13They've done such good finishing work on getting the body to just look absolutely OEM, that you've never know where Subaru starts and run show ends or vice versa. I'm just so excited about that car. Cannot effing weight on that side of things. So yeah, let's say that or some ridiculous old shooting break that we keep coming back to Rover Peaks. Well, I mean the Link's event, I suppose. Oh, a Link's event. It's that practical. It's stylish for a postal van. Oh, a campus. But a UK camper. Comer PB. Oh. A Comer PB. Oh, good for postal services because of the slidey door, you could just step out if you need to. Yeah, okay. And they did badge them as a dodge because of that. Oh, there we go. A Roots group, Mercury. Freak people out.

10:13Oh, thank god it's a dodge. I know what one. Oh, I thought it was just a weird European van, but it's not. It's a nice homegrown good American compact van. Yeah, have a comer PB. That's a good question. A range of answers that F are for John's question. Not that any of this is legally blinding and we're obliged to supply the US Postal Service with these things. Thanks, thank God. Thanks, John. A-A-K-A-C-1-2-3. Well, let's move on, perhaps. This one's from Paul C. High-flotists as a patron and fellow petrolhead who has written into the show many times in brackets, Nuttkins, Carla, signs GT4 buyer. I have now a serious question for you and yes, I know that's not in line with the podcast chuckle. My wife drives a 2016 Ford Edge SUV 2.0-litre TDCI Manuel Diesel Spau. Ah, it's so...

11:15She only uses the car around town. And occasionally we may have to do the odd 100 mile trip to shop in Belfast, etc. And she informs me that she's currently putting in 60 to 90 pounds worth of diesel a week and is not happy. Now I've floated the idea of a hybrid or indeed a full plug-in electric car. She wants the high seat position as the Edge does this very well. She's a car that's easy to park. So this really limits the buying market for us. We have three children and one is driving and has their own car. The second child will be driving next summer. So no space really isn't an issue, although for airport runs, etc. with luggage that is a factor sometimes. I've looked into Lexus NX300, Kia EV6, Polestar 2, but not driven one. The car goes and swaying towards Kia EV6 thinking of a budget of approximately 10 to 13,000 quid,

12:15but mileage no higher than 130,000. Maybe I'm being mad or unrealistic, but willing to prove most people I've spoken to wrong. Petrol is also an option, but I want to try something more futuristic and dip the toes in maybe of hybrid. We'll keep the car from maximum of two years. Hence cash budget and I've never had a car on finance before and I don't want to begin now. OK, as long as you get lots of information in it, Polestar. We wanted to purchase it before this Christmas. Hence we're reading it out now, Polestar. Thank you Lucky Stars, your Patreon, yeah, exactly. That's the VIP service you get as a Patreon. And thank you for being a Patreon by the way, before we start mocking your strengths request. Thank you. That's not that strange a request, is it? But I would say from the off, first of all, get out of the 10-year-old diesel while you can, because a car that sounds like it does lots of short journeys,

13:18I'm smelling this will start to misbehave. 2016, so it will have some sort of, there will be a missions control stuff on there, and you can go a bit wonky. Yeah. So yeah, I would get out of that before it starts costing you. Money, particularly with the proposed changes to start clamping down on emissions control equipment in cars of that age, and people who just pull it off in the hope of the problem goes away. I was just putting the bins out yesterday and my neighbour, Brian, was complaining about his DP. He's got big DPF issues on his scoda superb. Big DP. Because of short journeys, since retiring and, you know, that's not so good for him. Short journeys, and then an occasional 100 mile drive, I mean, you could easily have an EV. With the caveat, it would be much easier if you could charge at home.

14:18Yes. So that's the case you have a charger put in, then I think an EV would suit you fine and potentially cost you a lot, lot less to run because you get one of those overnight charge-up tariffs on your electricity and they're currently, you know, seven p.k.l. hours. That's amazing. Compared to £90 on diesel a week. Yes, a lot, isn't it? Yeah, I mean, that's a shame I would admit. But then, so what Paul's wife wants to sort of sit up high-ish, like a cross-over thing, isn't it? Yeah. But the edge is getting low every year because they rot so badly that she doesn't realise it that it's actually gradually sinking. That is the fact that it's scraping along the floor on every journey. I know what I'm going to tell them to get. The Kia EV6 is actually as EV's go. Yeah, it's fairly low, isn't it?

15:20It's not the tallest seating position and the seating position. No, it's not the tallest. It would be taller if you were to get a Kia E-Nero, actually. I think that's slightly more sit-up and beg. Oh, yes it is. And that was probably Kia's best selling electric car for a long time because it just... Oh, you know, visibly it was pleasant. It was not amazing at anything apart from range. No, amazing range for its time versus the cost. And I always thought it was decent. The Hyundai equivalent was never quite as good, which was the, what's it called, it's totally forgotten. E-Nero and the, it's the one that's Spanish for Lady Garden or... Oh, the Kona. The Hyundai Kona hasn't got as good a boot space and it's not got as much leg room at the rear from memory, which is why the E-Nero used to be better seller.

16:22However, if you want to sit up high and have fundamentally more room, EV6 sort of footprint, I just go Ionic 5. I mean, the EV, a lot of people say the EV6 drives better and it probably does drive slightly better because the Ionic 5 isn't the most sporty in terms of steering and damping, but I just love the Kia. At the Hyundai Ionic 5, I just bloody love it. Still, I love it. And in fact, following one on the school run this morning, I just stared at it and went still such a masterpiece with those Magi Mix style wheel, alloy wheels that they do. Love them. What's the budget here? 10 to 13,000 sheets with a bump mileage no higher than 130,000, which is good because I have seen Ionic 5s lower than 10 grand with a hundred thousand on the clock. Really? I was going to ask. Are we comfortable in terms of the budget for that if you were going to go?

17:27We are. That's a sonic. Yeah, and if Paul C is if he's financially wanting to pounce, when things are at an all-time low, like a funnel web spider, if he buys one of these cars just before Christmas, I think he'll get the keenest of keen deals. EV cold December morning. I think you're going to get a good deal. I don't know that they again, you're sitting quite low. I thought you were going to say the IKEA sole EV as a slightly more sit-up and beg. Oh, yeah, totally forgot about the sole because I have a decent car. I like the sole. They're getting the ranges. The ranges are very good. But ranges really good. Some people like the way they look. I also, depending on how Paul would feel about these or how his wife would feel about these and some, but the if you want sort of sitting up a bit higher SUV and its EV, those MG ZSs, I think well within budget.

18:40Yeah. I don't know how they are on the sort of longevity front. We were reading up other people's experiences and whether they're good for it, but it seems to conform to a few of the demands here. You see a lot of them around, don't you? Yes. But I think it's because they were sort of quite good value new. Yeah. You get a high mileage VW ID for that money. I, it's Mark Bittman from the podcast, food with Mark Bittman and the website, the Bittman project. One of the things that makes Whole Foods Market different is their commitment to quality standards. More than 500 ingredients are banned store wide to give us peace of mind whether we're browsing through the store or shopping online. And it's been this way since 1980. Their selectivity makes your shopping easier. Shop Whole Foods Market in store her online. Thank you. You need something from Loads, but your day is already jam packed.

19:44Since my Loads rewards and my Loads Pro Rewards members get free same day delivery, we'll make the run for you. Seriously, just lock in your order and we'll do the rest. See you soon. Members get more at Loads. If you really wanted, but I'd rather have one of the Koreans personally. Yeah, I personally go before them for the Koreans. I'm not a meat mate. I thought I would do, but otherwise. Yeah, I must hang, I must hang, I have not looked at prices of Mackeys and I know they've, have they stopped selling them yet? I do think so, but they, I sort of, is that one of these cars where when it came out, it was not so great and it's sort of got a bit better as a sort of fiddle with it.

20:46And maybe you wouldn't want. Yeah, there are. I just looked in the sun. I think it was always a good car to me. It's just, it was a slightly strangely shaped car that was, I think it was slightly misunderstood. It always had amazing range from the battery and it was also anything other than the base model was quite expensive in the UK. And I think that put a lot of people off. So, right. But hey, it would have been nice if they'd done a Mac E like just a, just a full on estate and just gone look, we're not going to try and make it like swoopy at the rear. Let's just go long roof. Let's just go full long roof and make it like a Ford. What's my favorite Ford that I keep talking about all the time? The American one. The Flex. The Flex. If they just brought out an electric flex that looked kind of similar to the last Flex, but maybe slightly smaller one for the European market, I'd be so all over that. An electric flex would be wonderful.

21:47Or a plug-in. A Fair, Fair Flex. Fair Flex. Yeah. We could actually answer the question with real advice there, Paul. Well, have we, I was sort of, as bothering me that there's something with this. But anyway, there's a few thoughts. But yeah, you'll definitely save a packet if you can charge it home. If you've got an EV and it sounds like the life that car would lead is suitable for it. I'll move on to a question from a listener called Dave, who says, Hello, you pair of Burj Khalifa length camshafts. That's a long cam camshaft. It's so much bow in the middle, if you're not so fast. So how much bow that's going to be rattly? I'm in Van Halden's late 90s dance track. You don't know me. It was plucked from Spotify. It's not entirely random list of songs. Of songs it likes to play me today. That track, along with Take Me Out by Franz Verdenan, four tracks later, are both examples to my mind of songs that have better intros than that which comes afterwards. Totally agree. Interesting. Totally agree with the arm and van Halden one.

22:47Once it gets going, it's boring. Yeah, it's really boring. It is quite. It feels like it just sort of settles into a groove and then nothing much happens. It doesn't, it doesn't move. It's like I was listening to, what was I listening to the other day? Oh, Milo. Do you remember Milo? Yeah. And that one that he did that sampled, Dr. Pressure. No, the other one in your arms. Yeah. Which I really liked. But I was listening to it the other day and I was being like, it sort of feels like it does just sort of... It just immediately drops into sixth on the motorway and it just sits there. And you're like, alright, but not a huge amount going on maybe. I don't know. It started us. Music sounds better with you. When that song came out, I thought it was amazing. And I can't hear it now. I even bought it on CD single. I've still got the bloody CD. But after hearing it for a minute, you've heard it and nothing else happens. At all. It's very ear-intosed. I'm not supposed to. That's just sort of, but I close it. It's dance music isn't it? It's meant to be like that in a way. It just hits a groove.

23:47But it's... I know. But that's why I like Drum and Bass. Trevor Horn wouldn't stand for it. I like Drum and Bass that moves around a bit. That's why a lot of Pete Tongues. A lot of Pete Tongues work. It just sits there for too long. And it turns into Dance Music, Tyr and Masu, where you have to smack it and crack it. Crack the skin again and then open it back up again. It's like, come on. Get it going. Anyway, who am I? Anyway. It's a different... We're not supposed to be talking about music. No, well, those pic-rosity tracks and says that the bass of the intro is a better than the rest of the song. But his question is, do either of you have examples of cars you've felt this way about? Perhaps something that felt amazing to drive for the first mile, but then turned out to have the worst power steering ever, or a thrilling engine note that transformed into a horrific drone, a kind of fighting elephant seals above 50 miles per hour. All the best. He sounds of Dave Avaugh after Shave Cully. Yeah, that's because I think Dave gave us that amazing aftershave in the shape of cars

24:50that we used to take to the live shows. Oh, yeah. And we've had them... I think ultimately they've both been stolen now. I forgot those were... I don't think we own either. Dave, if you've got any more... I miss those. One of them was called the Magnum. One of them was called the... I don't know, CNX-G or something. One of them was sort of powerfully pine-centred. That's right. The green one. That was my favourite. Anyway. So answer your question, Dave. I always felt that... Voxels of a certain era. Two thousand's Voxels felt to me like they'd been set up to feel quite nice on a test drive from a dealership. Oh. And the more time you spent with them, the more you just went... Not enjoying this. I'm over it. I've revealed to myself to have sort of... Just quite sort of... That's interesting, isn't it? That's interesting, isn't it? Yeah.

25:50I don't know. Well, as you do, I was going to say the last Voxel I drove was the new-ish Frontera. And I had a base spec, one of those. And it was actually quite a charming car. I think Voxels drive really well now. It's just that I think there's so much prejudice that people can't be bothered to test them maybe. The current Astra when that came out. I've drove one of those and that was a really nice car, like to say, to be so. And I had to mention this to TV's Jeremy Clarkson. He said, oh, yeah, I had one of those on test and Lisa, his partner, absolutely loved it and asked him if they could get one because she just thought it was such a nice sort of functional good car. And I know exactly what she meant. Yeah, and a great under the radar car, right? If her and Jeremy were at that, no one would go, I think I've just seen Jeremy Clarkson in an Astra estate. You don't be stupid, yeah. You haven't.

26:50So actually, Voxels are pretty good now. Well, on a sample size of two, but they're all right. But I think, yeah, in the 2000s, it felt like there were a lot of Voxels who just went, this is all right as you drove it away from wherever. And then a week later, you're like, I just can't be bothered with this anymore. I don't know what it was, but they just didn't seem to have great personality or depth. Yeah, I felt this way about, I actually felt this way about the, it's the current shape RS6 Audi. Right. And the reason why I felt this way about the current shape RS6 Audi is because when you review a car, you're driving it, thinking about what it feels like here and now it compares to all the other things you could buy. But in the other part of my brain, I'm always going, but what if I just bought it? What if I just spent 100,000 quid on this and I'm getting in it every day?

27:55And I've sacrificed, potentially sacrificed a lot to own it. What then? Is it still going to have those attributes? And is it going to give me those feelings? And I felt like after three days, it might have even been less, three days of fairly long journeys in the RS6. I was done, I was over it. I did not want to drive it anymore. And the reason for that is two things. Deva stating the quick in certain circumstances. Yeah. I felt like a target because it's become so roiding now and obvious. There's no stealth appeal like they used to be. So you tend to get people trying it on with you or potentially following your home with an aerial at a Rucksack. And, well, because they're just going to nick it off, you know? And then, and the fuel consumption and the general feel of like components being worn with the Quattro and the power.

28:57And it's so wide track and stiff suspension because it was on 21s or 22s. I was just like, they've pushed the envelope too far for what they're claiming is a good all-round family car that's super car performance as was. And I feel like the charm had got lost or maybe times moved on. And I'm like, I don't, maybe I've changed. I don't know. But I just felt like it's not as cool as it was 15 years ago. That's, that's my, and that's what I say to people when they go, go, Audi RS6. I go, yeah, the RS6 15 years ago was mega. Was mega because of how it sat in the world now. But I, you know, I just go, yeah, but like every day I drive a Tesla and that Tesla's quicker than an RS6. So, and it cost me about 12 pounds a year to run it. So, who cares? And then I, so I don't, that's the way I see it. I feel like that car I was happy to give it back.

29:57In fact, I stopped driving it because it was using too much fuel and parked it for a couple of days. And was like, I did not miss this. Did not miss this at all. And I've had that experience with a couple and I'm not, they're not recent ones. Probably over a decade old, Aston Martin's. Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message system. A missed call doesn't feel like anything. No red flag, no notification screaming at you. It just disappears into your call log. And nine times out of 10, that was someone ready to hand you money. That's why today's episode is brought to you by Quo. Spelled QUO. The business phone system built so you never miss a call. Here's what I like about it. All your calls, texts and voice mails live in one place. So anyone on your team can pick up a conversation, see the full history, and respond fast. No more, wait, who talked to this customer last? And if you're worried about after hours lead slipping through, Quo's optional built-in AI agent can answer questions and even book appointments while your team's offline.

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32:01I'll be honest. The old V8 vantage, certainly the earlier ones. I mean, I love the V12 vantage of that. It was just silly hot rod and it's really great. But somehow the V8 one, I know we know I know three people who've got those. I've just read those. And who all seem to love them and fair enough. But actually today's question about cars that sort of initially think sound great and then it just becomes a bit wearing. I don't think the engine in those V8 vantages sounds very nice. I think it's got a jackhammer quality to it that actually really gets on my nerves after a while. I don't find it pleasant. I think the related engine in Jag XK has a much softer V80 sort of velvety quality to it that's rather pleasant. But yeah, that's the one I do know. I mean, the Jag is actually more reliable as well.

33:01Quite possibly. Yeah. Anyway, so there we go. I hope that's the question. There's a few cars. There's a few cars. There's a few cars. But I should really make firm notes of them so that when I'm asked when I'm put on the spot I go. Because I don't write for magazines anymore. When I did, I could just go straight into my magazine I wrote about it and go, oh yeah. That is what I thought about that car. But I don't do as much of that now. I have to do videos, don't I? Do you know what I mean? I just had a thought about another possible car for a previous letter from Paul about something for his wife. I don't know if this is too small, but in terms of sitting up high and it's electric and you can get one within budget, a really nice one in fact would be a BMW i3. Oh, sugar. Yeah. Yes, yes. But it may be a bit smaller. I don't know. I don't know. It might be, but if you potentially empty Nesta nearly. Hmm.

34:01That's not my trick. That's not my trick. Okay. I think if BMW i3 people, once you've got one, you never want to get rid of one. And if you do change your car, you buy another possibly later better equipped i3. I know a few people that have owned two or three i3s because they're like, just like them so much. Yeah. People who almost, they're getting to the point now where they're going to have to start stockpiling them because they've stopped making them. Yes. Maybe a little impractical, but it's a nice sentiment if you really love the cars. But do you want us to do one last really quick one? Oh, come on Richard. Let's. I do a really ancient one. Let's see. Don. Okay. Hopefully I haven't done this one before. Dearest Flutes, I happened upon a conversation last week between two of the footy dads at my son's football match regarding the demise of Eagle, whose factory was not far from me. Having just listened to your podcast, by the way, this, this, this, this letter came in and I think it was last year.

35:07This is the demise of the, yeah, the Eagle factory. And is it Wiggan? I want to say it was Wiggan. Uh, yes, it was definitely in the Northwest somewhere. Yeah. I do not know these chaps well, but as it turns out, what is a funeral diet and the other one, an older chap, works for a local paint and bodywork supplies company that are in the field of work. They've been going, or that has been going for years. The funeral director, dad was installing the virtues of their aging Eagle that they used to this day. And the body shop supplies dad responded with surprise. What I, when I asked why he said that back in the day, Eagles were by far their biggest customer for body filler, which they would order in gallon tins. And due to the way they were constructed certain models would use a gallon or two gallons of filler to cover joins in the body before the vehicle went through to paint. A, a, a four and a half liters of filler.

36:07In, I mean, we found some filler when our Eagle was recently revived in the sill join area that the actual cut limousine area. But I didn't know that that was potentially factory. Now we know it might have been factory stuff, the factory gloop. So the question that Tom has here, Tom Law. So my question to you is, what is the most inappropriate or excessive use of filler that you have seen on a car or maybe ever done yourself? This one's, I, okay, there's two that I've, that I can think of here. And one of them happened only the weekend just gone, which I have some photos of. And I probably shouldn't talk about this in the main podcast, but I totally forgot because I'm a prick. One of them was I'm ever going to a max power live show and someone had done a, an RX seven in the, in the veil side body kit.

37:08Yeah. But they hadn't finished the car and they obviously wanted to still take it to a show. So it was still in filler and bits of primer rub down stage as a bit of a function car. Yeah, classic look for a. So I looked at it a lot and the amount of filler that was on it, I reckon it pretty added kilos and kilos of weight. I was astounded by it. Yeah, the second thing, the thing I witnessed only this weekend just gone. I was walking through town with my girlfriend and I spotted with its bonnet up and a confused looking gentleman staring into it. The six wheeled car that from a distance I could not identify as I what on earth is that I had to walk up to it and inspect it. It was a Ford Grenada Mark II that had definitely been homemade into a six wheeler. Oh my god. Yeah, it had been made into a six wheeler and it had wolf-ray slot mags and then I realized what the guy was saying that it was smoking really badly, which is why he stopped.

38:13I couldn't take my eyes off the fact that I think 60% of the bodywork was not metal. I would say it had so much filler and some of that and lifting off and also I think it had been painted with a roller. It was so bad. Of course. I think if you were to have hit it with a toffee hammer, I think it would have just been like in a cartoon or it just crumbles. It was so rotti and filery, it was horrible. It was absolutely horrible. I have some pitch to it. Look, the guy loved the car and that's the most important thing but I just noticed that it really had quite bad skin problems that car. Yeah, gosh. So, I have nothing to match that. I can't figure any particular filler horror stories that I'm sure. We all do see them from time to time. Yeah. It's a bad repair but I think these days people don't even bother with filler. It's just a new gaff, bit of gaff.

39:14Yeah. Cable ties sometimes used in bumper to bodywork repairs in a way. Mr. Venus. Yeah, so that's that. Well, look, we should wrap this up. But if you have a question for us, hello at Smith and Sniff.com is the email address. If you can try and put ottersawts at the start of the subject line, it just helps us to find the questions within the standard two to five years that we attempt to answer at least some of them. So, don't let them put your ottersawnt this question, we love to get them and we'll do this all again next Friday. Normal show on Monday. Until then, goodbye. Thanks guys. Cheers then. Love you.

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