"RE-RELEASE: Matthew Rhys"

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2:13Sorry that you guys caught me off guard. I was just talking to Jason's wig maker and he had said that they don't make the hair of the Jason uses for the wig anymore because it's a synthetic thing and it has to do with it because it's the user's certain petroleum component to it. Well, anyway, the point is if you see Jason on the street, just please say, hey man, your natural hair looks great. It's an all news, Martin. Are you guys excited? I'm excited. Do you know what I'm talking about? I think are you talking about our, we're on, we're on the TV. Yeah, with the, the dark. We're going to be on TV. I told my whole family on the road. On on max on max that, that, that, that new platform.

3:14Yes. Yeah. Should we do what should we see? Should we watch it together? That's much. That's not a bad idea. I'm really excited. I'm excited for people to see Will Farrell. It sounds weird to say. Well, yeah, I'm excited for people to see. Well, we have so many great guests. Yeah, so say some say some of the guests. We have Will Farrell. The will starts it off though, doesn't he? Will start off with a cone in Kevin Hart. What do you mean? Hang on, hang on, hang on. Then we have Letterman. Then we have AOC with special appearance by, can we mention that Bradley makes a special appearance? Yeah. Bradley Cooper comes out to Cooper right for us. And then we go to Chicago. We have Andy Richter and Jeff Tweety from Wilco. Mark Cuban. Mark Cuban. And then Maddie. Maddie Damon. Maddie Damon. The Matt Turtle. Yeah. Yeah, a Turtle, Quirtle, Whirtle, Prennial. Wait a minute. There are a place finisher, Matt Damon. And then one of the biggest guests of the entire tour is Tracy from Wisconsin. Tracy from Wisconsin. Tracy from Wisconsin. Guys, Tracy, Sean Sister.

4:15My sister. Oh, Sean Sister makes an incredible appearance. Yeah. Oh, man. And doesn't your mother's, your mother's right eye makes an appearance as well. And your mother's eye makes an appearance too? All true. And the way it's all true. And you can see it. Get it. Yeah. Um, on, uh, on Max Smartless on the road. Check it out. I do ask because I don't think they get it. And then by the way, we come, we come back to L.A. And then we, we end here with our, with, with quimble with that. I mean, we get to have it's, what a, what a soft landing to come back and have our good buddy, uh, Jimmy quimble. And then Jen makes an appearance and guy. I mean, and then what's the final meal of the whole thing? Oh yeah. Then we're over at Shawnee's House for. Oh, we got show's It. We're just being these balls. Slapy Joe's. Sloppy Joe's? I made Sloppy Joe's scratch for you guys. Yeah. It's on the dock. We're all, are we watching it at your house? Yeah. That's watching it. Yeah. That's watching it. Let's watch it. We'll watch it on Max. It's kind of so fun. I think I, I hope people like who knows.

5:15But we hope it looks real good to Sam Jones at a great job directing it. It looks real handsome. It's black and white. I hope people like it. It's, it's why it's May 23rd, right? May 23rd on Max. Okay. I have a crazy story that happened. I told, well, I said I was going to save it to tell you today. You have some pre show, Patter? Yeah. I'm going to go Sean and his, go ahead. No, this is crazy. Sean, what have you prepared? I have prepared this discussion. Sean, by the way, Don Tintrebo is peaking up prepared. There's somebody preparing something in the kitchen behind you. Yes, God is going to make me some tea right now. Okay. Tea. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Are you fasting? I'm on Broadway. I'm on Broadway. Oh, to keep your pipes nice and lubricant. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Well, it just won a clock there. What's, what was for lunch today? I just had a, I, I, I, I, I had a, what's it called? Like a Kaiser roll with egg and cheese and a little bacon. What, what, what, what do you, I had what, what do they call it? Like a foot long sub. Kaiser roll. Kaiser. Yeah. Where do you have to go to get that?

6:17Like a bread shop. Downstairs. Downstairs. Downstairs. No, Zaybars, Kaiser. Zaybars is a Jewish, Deli, we live right in, you know, near it. And then there's a cafe and they don't do bagels with egg. You think they would do bagels because they sell bagels in the store part, but not the cafe part, which is really great. You gotta go full Kaiser. Yeah. All right. So this is the story. This is crazy. This is gonna blow your mind. I think it blew my mind. So the show takes place in 1958 backstage at the tonight show. Oscar Levant is the guest on the tonight show that night. The other guest, which we never see, we only reference a lot is Jane Mansfield. Sure. Okay. Okay. So it's been a while since I was in the show. I was in the show for like 50s. Marilyn Monroe, Jane Mansfield, very similar. So Mariska Hargote. You know Mariska Hargote? I do. Sure. Yeah, she's the star of the SVU thing. Oh, thanks, Scottie. Oh, hey, Scottie. Thanks, Scottie. Nice to meet you. Just made me team. So she's the star of this show for like 20 some years, right? So I'm, so she's like, I'm outside of your theater. Come out. I'm like, Oh my God, I came out.

7:18Gave her a hug. Said hello. We took a photo. We're done. And she go, and somebody in the show whispers in my ear. Her mom is Jane Mansfield. Yeah. I go, wait a minute. What? Yeah. Well, Mariska Hargote's mom, I go, your mom is Jane Mansfield. I go, do you know that we reference your mom in this show over and over again? Did your mom know Oscar Levent? She's like, I don't know. You know, unfortunately she was very young when her mom died. So then we go back and we say her buys. I go back in the theater and I forgot. I text her. By the way, your mom made her Broadway debut in this theater that we're working in right now. Isn't that crazy? Crazy, crazy, yeah. And so did you at least offer her tickets to the show? No, she's got to pay for those. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you can give her access to the house. I get her. I get her. Her dad was Mickey Hargote who was like a bodybuilder. Yeah, that's right. Hungry. How do you know that? I know that. I just googled it. No, I did it.

8:19Wait, why do you know vague Hungarian bodybuilders? Look, do you want to see my magazine collection or not? No, I don't want to see your search history either. I do. I read somebody my search history the other day. This is a bonkers all over the map. The weird I go here. Do you want to know what I've been searching up the last 24 hours and it was just the weirdest stupidest stuff? I want to say just because I want to be, and I don't want to bring it down, but I got to be honest about where I'm at if that's okay today. And then we switch gears. Is that okay? Just because of course it is. It's very real. Do you want me to say, do you want me to describe it? My oldest friend in the world, Jeremy, passed away. And I loved him so much. Oh, well, I'm so sorry. And you just found out yesterday, yeah? Yeah. And, fuck off. Oh, God. I'm so sorry. And I just got to be honest about it because it's what's going on in my head. And I just wanted to say that I just, I love the guy so much.

9:24And it's so Jason and I were talking today this morning and it's funny. We always get surprised when people that you say it's such a surprise, such a shock. And we know that the deal is that everybody's going to die in some. We're here for five minutes. Yeah. Yeah. And you pass suddenly, well. The last few weeks were kind of came out of nowhere certainly. But then he finally passed. And I'm happy he did. He was obviously, he was in a lot of pain. And I just think about his family and all of them. And I've known them forever. And his daughter and his wife and his parents, who my parents do in their grand, and our great grandparents do each other, our families intertwined for generations. And he was, Jeremy, what's up in Toronto? He was in Toronto, yeah. And he was one of the great guys. He's a, I always say he's a first ballot hall of favor, just a great guy. You could always rely on him and, and I miss him.

10:25And, you know, you never, and I was just thinking this morning and I was taking the kids to school and it was just thinking like, oh man, hug the people you love. Yeah. Tell them as much as you can. And if you're thinking about somebody, call them. Let them know, right? Just let them know you're, you're thinking about them. And you love them how important they are to you. I love them. And I just wanted to say that because it's all my mind and I love you guys so much. And we love you. You love you too. Yeah. So it's, it is, you're right. It is the sort of like, you were always shocked that people died, but everyone here is going to everyone listening will. And it's like, it's a terrible thought and we somehow have managed this little device inside our head and our heart to kind of put it in a little box and keep it away and deal with it near the end of our life. We just kind of pretend it's not ever going to happen, but oh, it does. And we just hope we use our time correctly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I just did this, I just did this article, this interview.

11:28And Jay, you were so kind. I just read it. You said such nice things about me and I appreciate it. Why are you saying that? And before I appreciate your generosity. And I said. And I said, you know, if I can pull this thing off great, if not, I'm still alive. Yeah. With my quote, you know, about the play. So you're feeling bullish about the play. Yeah. It could suck, but at least I'm not dead. No, but the point is to your point, well, it's like, we're still here. We're here. We're here. Yeah. Right. We're here in nothing matters other than our health and our people we love and the people love. And I just, yeah, I wanted to say that. Just say, Jared, we love you. And that's it. You know, I'm thinking about you, buddy. And I also know that he was, he was always so quick with the laugh and he loved to freaking laugh. This guy made me laugh. And so I don't know. He would, he'd be like, great. Well, gets your guest. Yeah. Yeah. You got a nice opportunity to give him a nice goodbye this weekend with all of those

12:33people you're talking about. That's right. That'll be it. A wonderful thing for him to watch. That's right. You know, I mean, the, that's one of, that's one of the good things about after we go, right? We get to what like, it's a narcissist delight. You get to just pull up a chair and watch everybody say nice things about you. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. At least that's my fantasy. I know. Well, it's one of your fantasies. Right. Just a big Jason session for a whole day. What are you eating right now? No. In that situation where you get it. It's just a super salty puff inducing things because you know, you can be as puffies you want upstairs. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Turns out you can be as puffies you want downstairs. Well, actually, you lose water weight almost instantaneously down there because you're always sweating. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you're going. Yeah, you're going to be sweating going on. That's a good point. It's a constant fits.

13:35Yeah. Just switch gears. Sure. Yeah. You know, if we can, as much as we can to somebody who's not puffy. Really? No. This gentleman keeps it very tight in the best way. I really like his son of a guy. Yeah, I know he really is. He's got this is a guy. You want to talk about first ball at Hall of Famer. This is the guy who's got it all. I mean, easy. When you got when you got when you got talent and good looks, forget about it. When you got an easy way about you. Oh, boy, for a freaking guy. This guy's done it everything. He's been on the big screen. He's been on the little screen. He's been on the boards, you know, on stage, if you will. This guy's from the other side of the pond. Uh-oh. He's British. Yeah. Well, he's actually Welsh. His first language is Welsh, according to the internet. Huh. He's a guy who's done so much and he's one of those guys who'd like you. Just every time you seem, you're like, oh, I love this guy. He does. This is the way I feel.

14:36You know, he was for years. He was on, you knew him from brothers and sisters and then he was on the Americans forever. And one of the thing I love about him, maybe the most is that he is partnered with one of my all time favorite people, the delightful Kerry Russell guys. It's the incredibly talented Matthew Reese. Oh, my God. Oh, yes. Look at him. Look at that. Is he gorgeous or what? Look at this. That's no better in that. No, look, no, no, we have a fifth guest today. He just, he proved that the mustache was real. He pulled on it just. No, no, I'm just checking. I'm checking the glistener. He's got a 30 pound mustache on and it's looking strong. Are you playing a motorcycle car? No, I'm doing the Tom Selleck biopic. You could, you could welcome to Smartless Matthew Reese. Thank you. Thank you very much. You know, that's, that's the, that's the real terrifying moment. They're a real. Yeah, because the beginning, I was like, is he, who, is he talking about Ian McKellen? Who are they expecting?

15:36What is this? This is going to go. Terran Edgerton, everyone. They're real loves. Who can say? Sure. Wow, it's, it's so cool to meet you. I know. Very, very cool. Thank you, thank you very much for having me on, Jen. This is a real pleasure. Matthew, I wish we don't know each other well enough. We've crossed paths a few times because obviously Kerry and I are old friends. So we've met through Kerry and she's such a delightful person as you are well aware. And then she's like, I just, I love the idea. I'm like, you're as good as the people you hang out with and the fact that you and Kerry together, I'm like, Matthew's a good guy. He's a great guy. I can just, no, I took, I took, I took that idea and then I latched myself onto him so that those around us would think the same thing. By the way, that's smart. That's smart living. How long did you guys do that show together? Was it five, six? It was six, six years. Yeah. It was meant to be five and I think the poor showrunners had kind of acted for five and

16:38then FX went, you know, let's do one more and they went, we have one last. That's nice. We have the opposite. That's a good sign on a show. We're talking of course about the Americans. Yeah. And Margot Martin Dale's a friend. And dear, dear Margot Martin Dale. Yeah. That they were both reunited on cocaine Bay recently. Yes. Margot and you did, you were in cocaine Bayer as well. I, I muscled my way in just what, looking out to the kids in Ireland and reading the script and I, and that first opening scene I said, I was like, who, who's playing that guy? The guy who bangs his head and falls out the plane. She's like, what, who? I don't know. And then I said, I said, ask, ask, Liz of Banks. I said, ask Banks, who's playing that part? So she texted Banks, oh, we haven't casted you and I said, tell, I'll do it. Tell, no, actually, no, just ask it if I can do it. And she very kindly said, yes, you can come in and fall out of an airplane. By the way, what a, what a absolute treat. So you're directing a movie and then you got a guy who's got like one scene basically and they're like, Matthew Reese calls and he's like, hey, can I just do this one scene? You're like, uh, you're kidding?

17:39Yeah. She smelled the desperation on me. I was like, can I please get out of the, I can't do another zoo or a query. Peace. Sean, is it true? The rumors are, that's how you would Scott met, right? Didn't, didn't you put in the search for cocaine bear? And no, did I not hear that right? No, I think he was technically was cocaine, cocaine cub, wasn't it? Here's cocaine cub. Yeah. It was the prequel that they have. Oh, Scotty. Oh, Scotty, if he only knew. So, so you could cocaine bit, and of course, I want to get, I don't want to just gloss over the delightful Margo Martin deal whom we all had. Oh, yeah. She's the greatest. No one can sway like Margo Martin. I mean, she should, she should have a kind of course, an NYU like swearing for film and television, because no one can, no one can swear like her. And no one can get their eye are up quicker and then get to swearing over like something that seems trivial. We, we did that show together, the Miller's and she might, I believe they just did this

18:41rewrite and I got a fucking remember this fucking thing and they want to shoot this afternoon like, Jesus what? Yeah. She said, if one very famous actor who's in our show, she went, can you fucking hear the way he breathes? I went, I went, I went, I had before that. I had no, I had, I actually, I can hear it now. You brought it up. Oh, I'll work with her. Oh, Jason, you will, you will so fall in love with Margo Martin deal. You won't be able to contain yourself. Oh, guys, am I right? Yeah. Goat. She's got a good, now tell me, Welsh is a language. Is that what I heard you say, Will? Oh my god. First of all. Oh, wait, so it's not English? Yeah, ready for the letters. It's not English, it's much older than English. Yeah. It's one of the oldest in Europe. So let's start there. So I just want to say, so Matthew, you are, it says that your first language was Welsh, is that true? It is, it is. I grew up speaking Welsh, the whole family speak Welsh, but isn't Welsh just English with an accent? I don't understand. Yes, basically, we just, what we do is try and adopt such a harsh accent, no one really

19:42understands the English are speaking. No, no, no, no, no, no, he's, he's, he's putting on. So I spent some time in, in Cardiff, which is where you're from, yeah, Matthew? It is. What were you doing there? Looking through you there a few years ago, and I remember we had, well, we were driving. I had, I was going to say the driver I had when I was working on that show, you know the guy, Jerry Lockett? Yes, Jerry Lockett. Oh, the, the Lockett rocket, yeah. Yeah, the famous Jerry Lockett. What do you mean, driver? What are you talking about? You got a Rolls-Royce, that's what I was trying to bait you to, didn't you? Oh, no, no, I had it. I was going to be a little bit more familiar. Yeah, they loan me a Bentley when I was in, when I was in London, I was drove around. Just disgusting. I know. It's a long story. Right. Did you drive yourself in this building? Yeah, I did. I drove myself. Right side drive? Sure did. Oh my. And then I, I drove to Ricky's, to Jervis's house in London, because I was going to have, the carers house to have just a visit. Who are you? And I called him and I, and I said, I'm outside and he came out and he saw me and just went, I go, where can I park this thing around here? And he was like, Jesus, fucking Christ.

20:43It wasn't mine. It was literally, I don't drive a Bentley. That was why I made a point. Anyway, so you're from Cardiff. We know Jerry Lockett. We've got Jerry out there. We know that he's listening. We love you, Jerry. So we know how are you? How are you? And I knew that you guys knew each other because he was always like, do you know Matthew Reese? And I was like, I do. I do a little bit because I know Kerry. He says, yeah, Matthew, Matthew's from here and he's so proud of you and all the Welsh are so proud of Matthew for what you've done. I think there's only, because there's only three million of us, three and a half million. That's all of Canada, isn't it? What? First of all, what is the population of Canada now? 30, 30. Oh, okay. You missed it by a zero. 10%. Yeah. So anyone who's Welsh has done anything, even if I haven't done anything, we're just inherently proud for a country the size of Connecticut. Two of them are named Bale and one of them is named Reese. Yes, that's it. So Christian, Gareth, Bale and Matthew Reese. Well, there's also Hopkins. You also got Hopkins in the world too.

21:43Oh, wow. You do. Yeah. And then Burton, obviously. So wait, I don't know anything about you and I know you. I'm a fan of you, but I don't know anybody. Did you, so were you one of those people that grew up in the theatre and stuff as a kid and you're like, oh my god, if I can go to America, wow. We're going to get to that, John. That's exactly right. He's right in the middle of a story. He's telling the story. What's the worry about a Rolls Royce and a Bentley? King Welsh is his first lady. Oh, go see. He's planning the plane on that. Okay, sorry. Go ahead, Matthew. And go out some Welsh. John, check your chat, please. So talk about, no, by growing up speaking Welsh, you guys spoke Welsh at home, yeah? We did. Oh, wow. And in Wales, there's a great, you know, there's a great reverence for, you know, performing arts. And there's a very, there's kind of an ancient tradition. It's pre-Christian. We're by everyone congregates. We're in the old age. And then you would sing competitively or a site poetry or anything of that ilk, basically. Wow. And it's very modern these days, but twice a year, all the children of Wales will gather.

22:45And it's a competition now, but you're very much encouraged to get on stage and in some form, art form or another and compete for your school or your county or whatever. Oh, wow. So, yeah, so from a very early age, you're kind of kicked onto a stage, whether you want to. Really? Yeah. And now a word from our sponsor. Hey guys, have you ever really wanted an uncrustable sandwich, but then you realize you have to wait for it to thaw? So you start scheming. I know you like scheming. All the ways to thaw that pillowy soft bread as fast as possible. Maybe you stick them under your armpits or under your pet, like a little furry incubator. Well, here's some good news for you. You can now keep uncrustables in your fridge so they're ready to eat whenever that craving strikes no more weight time. So the next time you're heading out the door, just grab one from your fridge, tear open that wrapper and enjoy. Even the most smart-less among us can satisfy their uncrustables craving whenever they want.

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26:52And it's tough to read. It's a hotbed of contention. What's the distance between English and Welsh? I mean, absolutely no idea what it sounds like, what it looks like. Yeah, you talk a little bit in Welsh just so we can hear it. I'll just get one of the oldest poems in Welsh is about 600 BC. And it just says, Goir aisca chai fa fraithe lliglas fel i hankuina guenin vi Cs'e chantru berianten katai a guadie luch toe luch vi. It's Lord of the Rings, the elves. It's how the elves speak Lord of the Rings. Yes, well, Tolkien based Elfish on Welsh. Oh, I just made that up. Is that true? Oh, yes it is, yeah. What are you kidding me? I mean, I'm a 54-year-old man that is not living in a cave. Why have I never ever heard Welsh? It's a golden cave, let me let's be honest. Yes, a beautiful cave. I should tell. I've heard teller. Yes, one cave to bind us all. Well, why, what, what, I don't understand how that's gone by me. Well, I do. Well, I, I think, listen, I don't want to get into on the English bashing soapbox, but the English, you know, if we're going to do a quick history,

27:54the English did their best to kind of radicate all the Celtic languages for the Scots, the Irish, the Welsh, the Cornish, you know, they, they weren't too Celtic friendly. So there was a lot of stamping out of the language in the culture. Wow. And was it influenced by, um, uh, folks more Northern, like, was there a Viking influence to all of those Celtic languages? I mean, there's, I mean, there's the great evolution, it's Germanic-based, and then, you know, the, I think, the Celtoy were a Spanish tribe initially, and they, you know, then the goals got involved and, you know, amalgamated, and then, and then they, you know, set up camp in Britain, and then the Romans came. We're all such babies here in America. Well, you don't learn any, even if you did pay attention, you know, even if you did in America go to school, not on a massage bus, you, you learned, you learned, you learned history. How dare you. You said, you learned history. But at least in Canada, we did, we had to take British history. So we knew, we, we were always talking about the battle of

28:56collodin and all that shit. Like, was the, was the, was the, is the Empire still stamped on your throat in Canada? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. I mean, I don't, I, I haven't lived there in 30 years. So I, I, this is a guy who reads World War II books on the canal, going to bed. Yeah. He's not as bad as Justin Tarot, who will watch World War II documentaries through the face hole of a massage table. Who wants to iPhone? Okay. That's, that's, that he's, he takes it to a new level. Does this lust for World War II? He lines it just for comfort and stuff. He lines it with his discarded sleeves just to protect his face. Yeah. Just a pattern ring. So, so Matthew, so you're, you're in, you're, what, you're sort of 17 and you go to Rada. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One to the one, yeah. One. One. One. One Academy of Traumatic Art in London, which is the 3M and it classical, yeah, acting school in the world. Yeah. That's what I tell everyone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I told my parents they allow me to go.

29:57It's like everybody who goes to Rada, they'll tell you. And it's the same way with everybody who's ever gone to Oxford. Make sure to let that be known. We asked for drop it in. We asked that the on the boards are still up in the, in the, in the foyer. So like, you know, has Peter O'Toole and Antion Hopkins and. It's incredible. I did a, I did a summer course there years ago. Did you? In 1987. Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Shakespeare? Yeah, I did the whole thing for a few years there. Yeah. I'm Rada. Rada. How was that? I was amazing, man. What did you do? You seem so dumb. It was amazing. Is there a lot of pressure when you go to a school like that to, to, to, to make it? I mean, obviously you did. I mean, is there, it could just sort of culturally do you feel there like, oh my God, okay, so I'm in Rada now. I got a, I got a, I got a, I got to maintain our, our batting average of, or is there a lot of people that go there and, and, and then go into other fields? Is that more common? Yes. It is, it is. It's a, it's a very small intake. There's only 30 to each year, 15, 15 men, 15 women every year. Um, yeah, yeah. So it's, it's very small. So you, you feel the pressure immediately.

30:59And, and, and, that's small. Did they do it on a bus? Yes, like a massage bus. Yeah, yeah, they just try, it just kind of goes around around to pick it to the weird car. 30 on the massage bus comfortably. That's what I heard. And then you gotta stop, you gotta stop for lunch and jinkies on Ventura, right? Yeah, that's a reading at the Bodhi tree. Yeah. So, but it's very exclusive, but you, here you are, you're, you're a kid from Cardiff. We, we, you, the, you the only Welsh person in your year. Um, yes, I was, I was. I had a friend who was a year older and then Michael Sheen had just come through and kind of blazed a trail and was kind of, you know, setting the West end on, on fire. So, so there was this, you know, there was a, the, the flag of Wales is, is the dragon. So there was a kind of a dragon firmly stamped as to, you know, the Welsh are resurging again. Um, but, you know, like I said, hopkin, I think Hopkins was the, the chairman of the board at the time. So he'd be in and out and he'd, he'd just done, um, shadow lands. So, you know, there was this, there was this great air that, you know, anything was, anything

32:02was possible really. I think, I think one of the things that the Welsh and Wales suffered from enormously is small person syndrome. And at that time, there was just this little bubble of, of a few, you know, Welsh people doing incredibly archathausic, it was bursting to the ranks. So I was there at this Renaissance when anything felt possible. You know what my question is going to be, I can ask it now or now. Oh, did you ever forget a line on stage? What's your favorite theatre story, Matt? Yeah, I, because you got to have one or two. Yes, I have, I have, um, I have quite a few in fact. No, but, but possible, when I was, because I was doing theatre for, for the first, well, five years, solidly. Mm-hmm. And then at 25, I thought, I, I, I got the role that was going to change my life in my career, it didn't. But I got to play Benjamin Braddock in a stage adaptation of the graduate with Kathleen Turner as my Mrs. Robinson. Wow. And to me, it was the first real introduction to Hollywood, because I'd never experienced anything like it in every sense.

33:04Like, P.A.'s, and I was like, what's a P.A. Who has a P.A. It was just incredible. Anyway, fast forwarded. Well, halfway through the run, um, it got a little, you know, there were a few bedroom antics in, in, in the production, and there's one moment where I jump in bed and, um, with similar sex. And I have to kind of plunge my face between her legs as if I'm, I'm, I'm pleasuring her. Sure. Or she had, she did have the, you know, the obligatory kind of, you know, flesh toned, um, underwear on. Anyway, I just, I had a streaming head cold. Sure. And being the malicious, indicative type that I am, I, I wouldn't let the end of study go on. I went on and I had my nose is just streaming. My cold, my nose is streaming. I couldn't, I didn't want to kind of sniff heavily during, you know, during silence. So I'm, and I'm doing it. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I know what I know what I know what I'll do. I'll just clear my nose in that quiet moment when I'm between, I know, and I didn't think.

34:05So I jumped in and I'm between misturned his legs and I just went, and then hailed deeply and the covers kind of shot up. And she's looking down me like, what the fuck? And I was like, oh, no, I'm not, no, I'm not, I'm not sniffing. I'm not sniffing. I have a cold, I have a cold, I'm not sniffing you. You're not trying wine out. No, no, it can. No way. Yeah. So I always lived with this deep regret of that moment. That and when someone, there was a paparazzi, when the moment she, she took off her, her robe. And then there was paparazzi, it stood up and photographed her and a big flash went off. I know. And I looked at her on stage in this moment and I was like, oh, we should, we should stop. And she came in with the next line. And I always remember thinking, regardless that she was a consumer professional when I'm going to come in with the next time I'm going to carry on, I bitterly regret in that moment not stopping the production because the next day in a tabloid newspaper, the answer.

35:05Yeah. A huge audience. Yeah. Yeah. I was ashamed. I was ashamed. Oh my God. Well, you know, God, that's it. But it was. Yeah. It's a tabloid in the head of the line just said, Welshman, you know, just fucking cowers under pressure. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Pineless Welshman does nothing. We'll leave it to the English tabloid. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Oh my God. So Matthew, so you did, as you said, you did, did you, did you play another great Welshman? You played Dylan Thomas, didn't you? I did. I did. I did. That, yes. Oh my God. She feels so long ago. It's about 12 years ago now. Yeah. He had this, he had this incredible moment, the poet Dylan Thomas had this incredible moment in his life where he was having a fear that that power was played by Keira Knightley and Ceyna Mill has played my wife. And Keira Knightley is the husband of Keira Knightley and this is all true that he burst in on Dylan Thomas with a machine gun because during the Second War he came in with a machine

36:09gun. He opened fire. He like, and then missed everyone and took out a grenade, pulled the pin and the grenade didn't go off. And it was that story that we told in, um, no way. A lot of love. Yeah, it was kind of, it was an unbelievable, uh, story that he survived and then, tragically drank himself to death. Wow. I'll talk about this, about the worst assassin you could ever imagine. Yes. But I was like, what I was saying, talking to Killing, but I was like, but you're a commando. You're a trained commando. What do you want to play this part? So you are, you are not, you do not live in Wales, correct? I do not know. I now live in Levy, Brooklyn. Levy, Brooklyn. Yeah, so you live in, you live in Brooklyn, but you, you come over, you do theater, as you say, for basically five years. Hmm. And then you move over to America to do what? What was the first thing that brought you over? The first thing I did, I was doing, I was doing a play, I was actually doing a two-hander at the Royal Court with Paul, Paul Bettany called One More Wasted Year and everyone called it One More Wasted Evening because it wasn't good.

37:13My own family said as much. It was terrible. So they come backstage, what were they saying to you backstage? My uncle was the first person of the entire group and the Kimmy and is an old-sea captain, very salty, and you went, well, that was shit. LAUGHTER Yeah. And I couldn't argue. I went, you're absolutely right. And then, yeah, Stephen D'Aldry, who was the, Stephen D'Aldry was the artistic director at the time and press night came in, went, darling, was it the play we need to see right now? Probably not. Should we go to party? LAUGHTER That was hysterical. Oh, wow. That's so hard, Corso, you come over with Paul Bettany, you do? Sorry. Yes. I just came to see the play and he said, do you want to come over for a pilot season? And I had no idea what it was. And I said, yes, and then came to LA. And then the first audition he set me up with, it was, it was, Julie Tame was first movie Titus with Anthony Hopkins and Jessica Lang. And I just thought, oh my god, Los Angeles is truly the promised land where you just turn

38:15up and get these huge movies and everything's great. Yeah, you just signed up. And then I did that. Yeah. And I shot that in Rome for six months and then I went back to LA and didn't get a job for a decade. Yeah. But here's another time I'm going to, my career is going to be made and it was just like, yeah, just paid a few bills. It's not amazing. I love that feeling of, like, yeah, it's going to be like this forever. Yeah, yeah. It's like the clonda, I arrived, it was like the clondike where they throw you these scripts and go, this is being made for MGM with this is a lead. And you're like, oh my, and you're allowing me to audition for this. This is madness. All I have to do is get the part and I'm set for life. You never know anything. No. And look, look at us three more runs. Like we've, we've, we've, each of us have had great success as I knock on wood. We're super grateful for in our careers. But then, you know, this thing comes along. It's more successful than anything we've ever done. And it was just us three and it's chatting very cold. Right. Yeah. And the world, the world basically was saying, we don't want you guys to do the thing that you think that you're going to just, you know, the things you're, your professional

39:17life. Yeah, you can keep doing that a little bit if you want. But we just want you to be that you're, we want to hear your idiotic thoughts. Stupid shit. Yeah. Just like, well, you know, wonder at the moment where Sean learns that Wales was, you know, why, you know, where Wales got its name, Sean? Where? That's where they made the first harpoon. You know, that's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. Correct. But you bought it for a second. I, and that's what they tune into here. And that's what they tune into here. Because he'll fuck with me and he'll say something that's completely not true and then he'll say something that's completely true. I never know what to believe. It's tough. I know. But wait a minute. I think they did shoot Moby Dick in Wales with Gregory Pank. And my grandfather worked on it. Is that true? They're not true. Yeah, they built three large rubber whales and one of them, one of them, I know, they were like, this is the great joke is like they came to Wales. And one of them sailed off into the Irish sea, which I think is fantastic that there was just a few. I have a whale that needs a rubber, but go ahead. Hey, oh, my grandfather caught Moby Dick for there's a queue over it now. Wait, wait, wait.

40:19What did your grandfather do on that? His kids, his fan, dad, it was up Copington. I think he kind of, they kind of helped out and I think in the framing of the whales. I love that. Yeah. That's cool. Wait, I want to ask about Kerry and I want to know like, did you meet each other? Because I'm an idiot. I don't know. Did you meet four Americans or on the set and how did that go? And when did you know the sparks flow? One question at a time. We did. Because I get easily confused. Because I love Kerry. I love Kerry. So do I. We met quite a few years before the Americans in Rustic Canyon at a kickball party. The Jennifer Gray hosted and I had no idea what kickball was. Boy, all of that heads up by the way. Yes. Yes. How I just ambled through life bumping into the furniture and ending up going, how did I get here? How did this happen? And we were, we were the last two to leave. We're in the parking lot and I was shown open a bottle of beer for her with a key and failing and I asked for her number then.

41:20And then that was, and that was all I can remember. She was moving. She was moving to New York the two days after that on the Tuesday. It was Sunday. And that's all I saw remember. And then the road to the Americans was a long crazy one. And then on the first day of fight training, I said to Kerry, I said, we've met before actually. She was like, no, no, we definitely. I've been years. He's been years at this point. And I said, yeah, yeah, we met before we met at a kickball party in Rustic Canyon. She went, I know who you are. And you left me a message on my answering machine, a very drunken message. And I went, did I, I'm so sorry. I had no memory of leaving a long rambling, incoherent drunken message, which is probably what I think. No way, did you really? Wait, can I, can I be a super moron? Are you guys together? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Wait, did you, so you got together, you started, what are we doing? We're bringing him that they're just good friends. Well, big no, because they were together on the Americans for six years. That's what I was asked for.

42:20But then, but during that, you guys fell in love, got married, had a kid. We did. Yeah, but I want to know what happened. So she goes, oh, okay, now I remember you. And then what? And then it was, it was just a very, it was a very slow burn. The first season, you know, I, I think we both turned beat sworn off to that thing. We're going to go, I'm not going to do what everyone tells us never to do. I'm not going to do that. And then, but the beginning of the second season, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, yeah. Oh, wait, it's okay. So now, were the producer, did the producers take each of you aside individually and say, hey, this is what you're dealing with an asset here, okay? Everyone has jobs. If you guys go south, we have to shut the show down. Was it where they're conversations? No, no, they were very gracious about it, because I've had friends. They were so nervous. I know, I've had friends who, you know, who've had that conversation to sit down. From the producers going, look, we've all been down here before. You guys are in your mid 30s now, you know, you know, you're not 22.

43:21Right off the cuff. And they were very, yeah, they were very kind of gracious about it. You know, do you know the TV director, Tommy Schlame? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So Schlame was directing the beginning of the second season. And he has that kind of beautiful voice. But Kerry and I were having a, we were doing a sex scene. And Schlame just goes, these two have been naked together before. That never just seems like cold out. Oh, really? So at that point, no one knew, but he could tell. He could tell them. And then there's the longest stories of how we got found out, which was just. We've got time. Well, Kerry got broken into. I was in the house at the time. And the robbers kind of grabbed my backpack. Hold on. Shelf it full of stuff. You're in the house alone during a home invasion. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Stuck there. So here's the other thing. It's early day. And this is just a testament to my abject stupidity. But with the early days of our relationship.

44:22And she wakes me up. She says, there's someone in the house. And I go, no, there's not. And then I just heard this voice. And I remember, and I remember thinking in any logical moment, you'd go, let's lock ourselves in the bathroom, call 911. And for some stupid reason, because it was very early days, I thought, what I do next? Right. She will judge me on for the rest of our lives. What's that film? Force mature. Force mature. Yeah. Where the abilance comes and he just runs. Yeah. He leaves his family behind. Right. Right. I swear to God, I was like, if I suggest to go into the bathroom, call 911, will she think me a coward? Right. Your relationship's over. Yes. I had all these weird things going to my head. So what did I do? She had a working fireplace in the bedroom. So I picked up the poker. Sure. And with not a stitch on me, I walked out to meet my fate. Oh, God. No, I am. And we'll be right back after these messages. Okay. So now we're back. So now we're back. So now you're now.

45:23So after eight months of treatment, yes, I was fine. No, I'm kidding. So, so did you face to face with this fella? No. Because what I did was, I think, what most people do is you turn the light on and they run straight away. Yeah. And they kind of run and they run at the front door. Oh, I know. I know. Jesus. So you do this and now Carrie thinks that you're her hero. Yeah. I wouldn't go that far. Or did you think you were stupid for going for a chance to get up? Yeah, basically. She was locked in the bathroom. Yeah. Call 911 for you. Yeah. Then seven cops turn up and they start, they clock her and they're like, look, and they love no idea who I am. But they're looking at her and then, and then all of a sudden, the DA were like, they catch them and the DA said, oh, I tell you what, we would love to return your belongings on set with a photographer to carry if that's okay. And she's like, she wasn't wild about the idea. Try to put it on. No, no, no, because the DA was retiring that year. Wanted kind of a, you know, hero ending.

46:24So the N.Y.P.D. Come on set with a photographer and then they're holding up my bag. And you need one of the young PAs when, wait, that's not Carrie's bag. That's Matthew's bag. And as I'm running, trying to go, short the fuck off. And that's how the crew kind of found out. No, wow, wow. Wow, wow. So arbitrary. Yeah. That's crazy. There was a lot to go through just for the big reveal. Wow. That's kind of cool. So then this guy managed to grab a few things before he went running. He did. He did. Wow. And when I saw the picture of him when he was arrested, I said, oh, I said, look, there's a picture of the guy they caught him. I said, look, he's been cuffed by two little tiny cops. And she said, they're not tiny. And I saw the, oh, my, and I saw the size of him. He could have turned me into a kebab without poker and daddy boy he wanted. I would have had a. Now, did you have any sort of war cry as you turned on the light? Was there any sort of, you know, you're going, hey, bear.

47:24Hey, yeah. Yeah. You know, was there any of that? No, no. Yeah, as much as I have a poker. Yeah. Yeah. As much as I love that moment and gladiator and all the keels kind of attack the Romans. And I always think, you know, if it came to it, that's how I'd react. I was not, I couldn't move my legs. Oh, my God. Don't make me come down there. Yeah. Yes. I'm, I'm classically trained. You know, I'm done fencing. Totally naked. Yes. Let's just, let's get this going. Yeah. And we will be right back. Instagram team accounts have automatic protections on by default built in content settings for the content teens can see contact limits for who can contact them and time management tools like daily time limits and sleep mode. Teens are automatically placed into teen accounts and teens under 16 will need a parents permission to change any of these settings to be less strict.

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50:32And now back to the show. All right. So you and Carrie have a child at a boy or a girl? He's a boy. Carrie has two older ones and there's three. You know, there's three in the house without numbers. And what are the ages of all three? 15, 11 and six. 15, 11 and six. Then the 15 and 11 are boy girl? A boy girl. It's a boy girl boy. Boy girl boy. And how are you liking being a dad? I love it. You love it. It's the madness that I love. It's when it's at its most kind of the smart stuff. It's you, but when it's catastrophic, it's brilliant. Yeah. When those mornings, when the wheels so royally come off, that's when I can sit back and go, oh, this is just brilliant. Who's the, who's the more patient one with all of the, with, with, with the chaos? Is it you or her? Uh, her, her. Yeah. Chaos I'm fine with. But if it, but man is like, rudeness, I don't tolerate. That's when I, I mean, either. Yeah. That's, that's what I can't, how old are yours now, Jason? I got 16 and 11, two girls. Oh, wow. Yeah. And I'm totally permissive and the guy that plays around and I don't have to really be

51:35the disciplinary, but then, but if it's, if it's the rudeness, if it's stuff like that, and I just like the switch gets thrown. Yes. Yeah. You can choose my moments. Chaos is great. Yeah. rudeness. Yeah. I've got, we've got, we've got four, we've got 14, 12 and then my partner, she's a five year old and then we have an almost three year old. Oh, oh, no way. Oh, no way. Yeah. You've almost got the hockey team. Almost got the team and it's a fuck and it is sometimes it is absolute just abject chaos like just how do you, how do you like it? I love it. Okay. It's great. Yeah. I don't have it any other way. I embrace it. It's fun. Same, same thing. They're all nice, they're all nice kids and everybody, you know, is has good manners and stuff. That's one of the things. But, but I love it, man. I love it when it just gets absolute, you know, sometimes when you get into the witching hour sort of near bedtime, it gets fucking boggles. Yeah.

52:35How about the complications, Matthew, of travel and stuff? Since you guys are both very active in your careers and your kids are now deeply entrenched in school and having that sort of social and academic continuity, like you can't really pick them up and take them places with you as much as you want, I'll bet. Right? How do you guys manage that? Is it easy or tough? It is tough. I mean, we try and live by this ridiculous rule where one of us works, one of us doesn't and the, you know, kids stay at school. Right. But it's just that never works out. Not because like what if somebody gets a great, great call and it's, you just can't say no, but this is your turn and, you know, yeah. This is what happened last year and grandma came in and, you know, the kids ate sugar for six hours. They paid love, they loved it. I think that my sort of view on it always is, is that you have this idea of how you want it to go. So you say like one of us going to work on us, not whatever that thing is, and you try to set those parameters and you try to get as close to it as you can.

53:36And you have to be flexible and allow yourself to, you know, that there are going to be moments when it's just pure chaos. Yes. And the truth is kids are so incredibly resilient. Like they don't know any different, you know, I grew up in a house where my mom was a stewardess for pan Amher flight attendants. She was gone two weeks of every month. That was just normal to me, you know, just had my mom half the time. And that was just normal. Yeah. I had my dad, I'm, I'm not right. So Matthew's going to love this story. No, no, yeah, go. So it starts with a Chevy Pontiac, the engine turning on. Yeah. And it ends with a peel out, yeah, just a peel out and a real and a sort of a distant kind of fuck you. Fuck your fucker, yo. This one isn't true, is it? Yeah, it's true. My dad left him has five. Five. And he left and he was left his mom to keep an eye on all of them. And I stress and I stress and I about to you, it's, it's brilliantly tragic.

54:40You have to laugh. Oh, yeah. Anyway, we have to do. We have to laugh at our misfortunes because, but wait, I'm going to ask you a weird question only because you're wearing a black t-shirt. Yeah. And I've seen a lot of photos of you and stuff like where you're, you seem very, you seem very kind of fat. Like you, you're into fashion when you have to be like, I know nothing. Like I'm terrible. But like you're probably like, will, you're probably like, will, where you're like, I, I like to look good when I even go to the store. I like to look good when I go out and public like, is that, it seems like a lot of effort. Oh, no. No, no. If you truly knew me, it's, I can't even say the other day because I have, I have, I have these beaten up car hearts and I wear all usually just the same black t-shirt every day. And even K, you've, you've got, you've got to change for the school run. You've won the same thing for, it's now, it's now months. Right. And my car hearts are really beaten up and there's, there was, there was this, what's cards? Car hearts. Sorry. It's a brand clothing brand. Oh, it's like, what are like the carpenters? Car heart, yeah, all the carpenters wear them and the real, real worker guys.

55:45And I wear them into the ground so they look so terrible that there was, I was standing in school pickup in the line and this muck and looked at my travels and said, what, what is it you do? And I went, I went, oh, I'm actually an actor and she went, oh, oh, it's like, I was like, why are you wearing, why are you masquerading as someone who works for a living? Well, you have your uniform. It's like Jason, I was against the question when they see him, they always say, what, what times your tea time, right? Isn't that the question that hits my face? I was wearing this little outfit, it's clear. You know, you know, I do get a lot, we know I do get a lot is, do you, do you color your hair? And now recently, because of this, this film where I play in a guy in 1985, they think it's a wig, just a full blown wig on that wearing. Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. I miss it. No one thinks that my hair is the right, is the real color. And it's just, because in your 70s, like you are, it's, you know, that's not true. It's not believable that a 70 year old would not do it. I have to admit that there have been, I've had a few people in the last year who have asked

56:49me Jason if you color your hair. If I color my hair, yeah, same. I tell everyone that you color your hair. It's, yeah. What did that, huh? Yes. Sunflower, yeah. It was, it was, yeah, it was during that, it was during that moment. Do you remember, I don't know if you remember this in the Golden Globes, as this is sound perversely pretentious, but it still makes me laugh. That kind of green, the virtual green room, if you remember, is you, me, Bob Odenkirk, Josh O'Connor, and then we were all waiting for Al Pacino to kind of pop up. Do you remember it into the virtual green room? Yeah. We're all waiting, and then he pops up, because we're all at home doing the pandemic, and he looks like a bond villain, because he has like a small dog in his lap. Are we telling him to touch his throat? And he's choking it? Yeah. He's also gonna say, we all go, hi, hello, hello, hi, hi, hi. And then this silence, and then we kind of do a second round, while I'm going, hello, hi, no, nothing. And then I think you said, I don't think he can hear us. And then Patino just goes, oh, I can hear you. Oh, boy. Yeah. We all went, oh.

57:50Oh. This doesn't want to do the group high. And then he said, I think he call this his head. Oh, yeah. Oh, this guy, oh, oh, this guy. Oh, Charlie. Oh. Hey, so. What's the problem? What's the problem? Yeah. Quick question for Jason. Why is it the emblem? Why is the person holding an umbrella? What is that? Oh, this is some silly golf letter. Mary Poppins. Oh, yeah, what is that? It actually is a Mary Popp. This is a, I believe this is an ATT thing, Willie. Yeah. So, an ATT? Yeah, this is one of the, from that swag room we went into. Free spot. We have a smart list golf stuff coming out too. I love it. Oh, let's take the opportunity to do a merch tie and show. That's a really smart thing. Matthew, would Matthew, can you commit right now to wearing smart list stuff? Yeah, I would like to have a golf merch on the school run. But my entire positive is mainly made up of clothes. I've stolen from jobs. I don't buy the same. We're going to send you some smart list golf swag. I love that. So, I'd like some, some plus fours, right, for the golf ads. Oh, yeah, true. You know, you can wear that, you know?

58:51Yeah. You know, we were, we were listening, oh, I do want to say, your show gives us so much joy. And we were listening. Yes, it does. We were listening to it recently. And well, I think you went to dinner with Sean at JAR and you and Sean, you were, I was not invited. Yeah, well, we brought that up in the car. We were like, that wasn't Jason. Yeah, I never am. These guys have been all over the world together. Oh, my gosh. I mean, they've been to Turkey. They've been to where else guys? Yeah, we have. Where's your passport? It's been stamped. Benessively, right? Benessively. Benessively. Yeah. You guys play golf every day. Okay, go ahead. Oh, man. That's different. So, so you did say that you're wearing uggs. Well, this kind of slipper uggs for dinner. Is that right? Absolutely. Absolutely. And I said to Kato and see, it's fine. And she went, they live in LA. Right. Yeah. Sean, that was you wearing the comfy shoes? Yeah. Yeah, why not? He's been here for years. Who looks at your shoes? Nobody looks at your shoes. I would. And then I would choose to never come to dinner with you again. Collars around the world. Collars. Listen. So Matthew, so now recently in the last couple of years, you've partnered with our, with

59:58our good friend, Mr. Downey Jr. Yeah. Oh, yeah, Perry Mason. No, that's a hand. Oh, we've had a video. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Talk to us a little bit about that. First of all, how that came about. And what an absolute terror he is as an executive producer. Oh, this damn it. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. He's straight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's straight. He strikes people. Yes. Yes. With a glove. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Christ. He's here. He's here. He speaks so highly. How did that come? How did he loves you? Yeah. He does. He does. He really does. Robert loves you. And talk to us a little bit about ensues and as well. She loves us. She loves us. She does. She loves us. She loves us. She loves us. She loves us. She does. She loves us. She does. Great Susan. The brains of that duo. If I went beneath the wings and the brain in the head. I think that you were sort of into your world. The Perry Mason project. I mean, I'm trying to think what you what you what you was now.

1:01:00Because it was it was it was a while back. We had probably three four years ago. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And I always and this is what this is how I make brain works. When my manager calls and goes, you know, team down. He want to talk to you about a reboot of Perry Mason. My first question is like, who who's turned it down? Who's turned it down? Why does a robber want to do it? Yes. And I think he did. I think that was the whole point. The Robert was was supposed to do it. And it took him almost 10 years of development. And it went through many, many, many guises of a TV film, a series. And I just think it, Rob, it never quite got there. Yeah. So yeah, they reached out for a meeting, which I was terrified of. And the brilliant Mr. Van Patten directed that. Oh my god. Yeah. It was just a dream. Yeah. By the way, I love that their, their company is called Team Downey, which is always fun to me. I think that's a great company name. It's, if I was been jealous of that.

1:02:00But I don't want Robert to know. I would have called it Touch Downey. Yeah. Oh, that's good. That's nice. That's fun. Yeah. It's just like I'm looking to call, rename, mind master, Bateman. But it will not, it has not cleared. So Robert, so, so team down, so team downey reaches out. And you go and you meet with these guys and you're like, you're like, uh, did you know that it was going to become this, like, what was your first thought of it? Were you, were you like excited? Were you sort of skeptical? Yeah. Were you, I mean, I was, I was, I was slightly skeptical because I have, like, did you develop it with them? Or was it a script? Well, you're also carrying a bunch of pedigree out of the Americans, one of the Americans. The Americans and brothers and sisters that you did for five years with our, with our old buddy, Robbie Bates. My old friend. You did not want it to suck. No, no, but, but that was never in doubt because, you know, I think when you saw team downey, you know, the writers on it, Tim Van Patten, HBO, it was, it kind of, it was straight to, I wasn't

1:03:01concerned that it wouldn't, wouldn't be of a certain caliber. If any, if anything, Mike, you know, it's all, I usually stems from my own insecurities. Well, you know, how, how I can turn it into a catastrophe more than anything else. For us very excited. I loved it. It was pictures of one off and they were like, look, we just want to do the orange and story and that would be it. And then, you know, halfway through, they were like, you know, this, this, it works pretty good. It looks good. We should, we should think about doing this, you know, we should think about doing more of this. I do, I did have that small reservation when I've done, or I kind of, you know, Paymes is sort of veered. Well, it was in the UK, it was huge. And, and here also, there is a certain generation of an age group up that kind of go, no, no, you can't, you can't touch Mason, but, you know, you have to leave that alone. And then a ton of people have no recollection of the show whatsoever. And that's what Susan said. She said, look, there's, there's an entire, there are suites of generations ready for a new paymasse. Yeah, we can do, we can make it whatever we want. And where did you, where did you guys shoot that?

1:04:01In LA, they went back to the origin story in the books, which was 1930's LA, which to me was, you know, with Chinatown and everything else was such, was so alluring. And, and as a kid growing up watching old movies, I was like, oh my god, I get to wear a fedora in LA. And you do an American accent? Yeah, yeah. You get to wear a fedora in LA like everybody else in Venice, right? In LA. Yeah, all Los Felos. Yeah, as an actor, as an actor, is the American accent a tough thing to do? And do you have like a phrase that clicks you right into the typical American sound that's sort of like a shortcut for you? No, there's not really a short, it's still, it's still a huge, it's like a, I say block. Like hamburger. Why do you want, well, yeah, why? I tell you what, killer. I went up to one of the writers early on in in Perry Mason. I said, he's any chance we can change like murderer to killer. And he's like, you do realize you've signed on for Perry Mason. Right. Like you're going to be saying murder a lot. I was like, yeah, hadn't quite thought that one through that.

1:05:02It's a bit of an Achilles heel for me that way. I always sound like I'm right. That's a tough word to say. Yeah, like your batteries run out halfway through, it's called murder. Murder. Murder. I was like, is it killer? What about suspect? Suspect would be great. Right, because the British accent would put an A H on a murder rar. Yeah, murder. Murder. Yeah. By the way, if you're going to live in America, you got to learn how to say murder. I mean, sorry. She's so true. Yeah. You're going to say the most Jesus Christ. Well, I mean, now so now you've got the second season of Perry Mason coming out, which is fantastic. Would you never thought you'd do? No. And that was that was delayed a bit, yeah, with COVID perhaps hugely delayed because Tuesday's Tuesday, you know, Dechromo went, no, we're going to wait. We're not going to we're not going to shrink the show and make a smaller show of the first one. We'll wait until we can make the same big show with hundreds of supporting artists and do it right. Right, because there's a lot of background players in a lot of crowd scenes.

1:06:05It's a massive production. Oh my God. It's a beast. It's there are those days I turn up on set and I go, I don't even know how this, how this works. My brother, my brother-in-law was a tank commander of the British Army. Wow. For most of his life. And he said it's all, it's like if you think about the logistics, they have to do it's insane. But he came on set one day and he went, how does this work? Right. And he was just so shocked. It's true. He goes, what amazes me, he's what amazes me is that so many components have to come together in one tiny moment and be quiet. He said he was. Yeah. It's sort of staggered him. And he's like, he was like, amaze the coach seats and everything. It is. It's true. When you go to a, when you go to a big film television set and you watch all these people who are at the top of their game and they're seeing it like you said, come together in that moment. We're always going to be silent and everything's going to be great and you see it pulled off. Sometimes it has the timing of something that has to happen in the shot. Yeah. Whatever it is, it is pretty amazing to watch how good these people are at what they do.

1:07:07Yeah. And filming, filming in New York, which we obviously did the Americans. Oh yeah. It's staggering that they get away with what they do in the kind of like location department should be given flack jacket to these days for the amount of abuse. They just get from people who wanted to park drive down the street or you know, enter. But how many times have you had there when you're shooting in New York on the street and then some, it's like pretty good and then like somewhere in the take you just hear somebody out leaning out of window going, I want to be in the fucking moving. And if it says exterior night in the Americans, you know you're looping it. You know your ADRing it because you know there's someone shouting along the line. There was this one time in Harlem, I was doing a scene and it was like eight guys because I just shout the scene. Eight guys were shouting the exact same words along with me. Because they've heard it so many times. Yeah. Yeah. Matthew, we have taken up so much of your time. Yeah, just what a pleasure. Like she's been a treat ever. Yeah, real.

1:08:07You're one of us. You're one of us. God, I want of us. This has been a real treat. So I can't wait to see the show. We're all coming to see it. We're very excited about it. Oh, that's so nice. Thank you. How are previews going? Really well, really exhausting. But thank you for asking. You know, walk down the street one day. Today, walk down the street to go get my little sandwich, my ex-anime. On a Kaiser Roll. And a Kaiser Roll. And this woman. This woman stopped me. She was really sweet. But this is how much energy was in her voice. And she grabbed my wrist. She goes, I saw your show last night. I go, yeah, thank you for coming. She goes, this is really good. And she's just like, I love New York. I'm defeated. And that's it. I was like, yeah, she was very nice. The last time I did a play, I was walking from the theater. And this woman just shouted, you're an asshole. And I just went, I hope you saw the show. That's not personal. Matthew, well, when we come to New York, I hope that we can grab a meal. You mean, and maybe one of these ding-dongs as well.

1:09:08That would be, let's go. Let's go. Yes, please. Get Sean and Scotty and JB. We'll do it up. That'll be great to see you, man. Thank you for having me. It's been such a great time. Oh, thank you, man. And send all of our love to Kerry. We adore her as well. And we adore you. You are, as Sean said, you're one of us. It's been such a pleasure, buddy. And I'm in your success. Perry Mason comes out. What's the release? It's out now. Out now. 2019 at nine. Yeah. Monday, night to nine. There we go. HBO Max. Yeah. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Thanks for being here, buddy. Have a good day. See you soon. Bye-bye. You slam a shot. Well, there's a nice guy. What a nice guy. How about that being, how is he friends with you? That's the kind of, that's the ilk of people that I attract. You know what I mean? He's just like finding people. Birds of a feather. Cool, dude. He's charming. He knows that a carry on a conversation. Yeah. I know. I'm always impressed with guys like that who are just so relaxed.

1:10:08Yeah. He's confident. You know? He's comfortable. He's got a uniform. He has black t-shirt and his shirt. You know, like you guys, he doesn't have an axe to grind. You know what I mean? He doesn't have something to prove all the time. He's trying to prove anything with his fun tops that he wears. Sean. I'm a fun top. Now listen. I know you. Speaking of which. Where's the cocaine bear? What's he fixing now? Huh? He's fixing something. Scotty, what are you making? What kind of sandwich? Oh, yeah, it Turks. You know, it Turks sandwich. Oh, it Turks sandwich. What, what, what, what, what, what percentage of the day? What percentage of the day? What percentage of the day? Hang on, what percentage of the day when you yell out, Hey, Scotty, what are you doing? Is the answer I'm making a sandwich? Well, usually it's for me. No, it's for me. That's what I mean. That's what I mean. So what do we got on the turkeys? How do you like your turkey sandwich, Sean? I ordered one yesterday for lunch. It was a turkey avocado lettuce and extra, extra, extra, extra mayo. Oh, and are we toasting the bread? No. Really? How about a light toast? It's just like a real soft thing there. Extra, do you literally say extra, extra, extra mayo?

1:11:09Yes, I always do, because they never put enough on it. You know what I like? I like it when you get one of those like a sort of like an Italian, you know what I mean? With like different cuts of meat, some cold cuts. Yeah. You can't just throw it into the Brooklyn. So oil and vinegar get a little salt pesto. You know, by the way, remind me of the same bad thing, but they're wearing the hats all around. Remember, um, remember Thoreau went through a long phase. He was always wearing like hats and little pork pie hats and fedoras and stuff. And I remember polar, polar said to one day, you look fedorable. And that's good. That's really good. I know. Yeah. Hey, what kind of hat do I have on today? You got one of the smartness merch hats. That's right. Yeah. We're one of those. Sorry to interrupt guys. Well, I know. I'm just going to say how you want to say how you want to put it on. Put it on. Put it on. Put it on. Carry on. Then we're going to air it. There she is. If you can hear us. Hello. We'll have to have a run. They I will tell the boys. They can't hear you right now because they're on the other system. You were fantastic. Thank you. Bye.

1:12:09Okay, thanks for everything. Really appreciate it. Well done. I love that we just had a we just had a quick visual visit from Carrie Russell and Amy. Yeah. But we got to see her and she was there. She's probably with the kids, right, Sean? Yes, she was probably with it. So about time for pickup. Yeah, it's probably for now. For now, for her kids, which she would then sing. What would she sing to that, Ms. She was gonna put her kids to bed. She would probably sing like, rock, go, go. Bye, baby. Oh, Jason hates when we go up. He just, he just pinches that voice off. Bye, baby. Smart. Smart. Smart. Blast. Smartless is 100% organic and artisanally handcrafted by Michael Grant Terry, Rob Armjav, and Bennett Barberco.

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