Trump Sends $2.8 Billion More to Israel | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

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3:03Or no matter how the Houtis blow up, everything that the Saudis are trying to send out. Anyway, yes, JT. Go ahead. Just a very important issue, Tiet. What about the beast, theality? We are going to talk about the beast, theality. We have we have the feces, theality on the troll. Oh, God, I was geeking out on that this morning on the show. That is funny. Considered a Kennedy has a way about him of asking him to question. He has a skill. Because he's so incredulous. He has that sort of leaning forward. That's something they are really like. Are you really going to fuck with me here? Are you really going to say that? I'm going to make you say that. It's like, it's so great. The only reason I want to save this until later in the show is because people are still trickling into the room right now. That's the show I'm seeing the best for later. The idea that that's because when the video starts, that's how he starts.

4:03The video, right? We have that video. We will show it for people who don't know what we're talking about here. But long story short, it's a new love for Cash Patel. Let's put it that way. Which is saying a lot because he's had a lot of lows. Okay. So aside from the fact that, look, if you've engaged in B. Stiolity, you could become a fed. That could be... You're not done. It's just because you're a dogfucker. It doesn't mean you can't work for the federal government. Poor heppers. Poor anything. By the way, just a little bit of an update. This... We talked a bit after we went off the area yesterday. This dude who was a friend of the person who was like, took a fence at one of Robbie's epithets, like the H word, a friend of his, a friend of hers, sorry, got in touch and said, like online after reading, like, you are on notice, raw.

5:04It's like... But I didn't see that until after I invited him. Anyway, he tried to invite himself onto the show to basically, you know, try to bring this in for a soft landmaker or something. And so, I said, sure, come on, come on in. And... That's what he's trying to do better. We haven't heard Dick from him. It's been 24 hours. I should say 23 hours. And we have not heard... I mean, you know, I told him, we have time today. We have time, obviously, we don't have time today now. But we have time tomorrow. So if he wants to come on, we'll honor that offer. But I'm feeling that he's might be pushing out. Better be... I will be kind and gentle as I always am. Lots of lube in the... Well, lots of lube for the cash betels of the world. My point of view is if you come for Robbie, come for all of us. That's how I feel. And, you know, sure, he might not have should have called her a heifer. But let's be honest, all things have been equal. He apologized for that. Well, at the very least he shows up. Well, more do you want.

6:04That's what I said to it. One of her friends online. I was like, literally, like, I said, an apology was asked for. An apology was warranted. An apology was issued. Not once. Not twice. But three times. What more do you want? You want. Supported coup. Like, fuck you. Like, that's it. We... That's what... That's what I feel about you, the fuck off. The reality of it is that woman came on and couldn't answer questions. That's what it boils down to. And the audience wasn't... This radical right-wing audience. The audience was responding to the fact that she couldn't answer questions. Hey, get better at your job. The fuck's it. Like, if I don't know. Right? Nobody... If she was on my show, I would have asked her the same thing. Like, hey, it sounds like you're saying this. Okay, you don't answer me. Okay, but it sounds like you're saying this. Okay, you don't answer me. It sounds like you're saying this. And it's like such challenging questions as, do borders exist. Chip countries have the right to control their borders. And they're like, and then... I'm sorry, DeRue, just for a second.

7:05No, to bring up the race. The reality is what we do here. As the publicist is outrageous. The person who was living in a chin-butt was the black person. I'm not being racist of her at all. I'm not being racist of her at all. To mention, there's a lot of classism here. A lot of the comments, interestingly, from the supposed liberals or progressives, were about our appearance, that we were in cells, that we were... And also that, like, you know, Robbie was, you know, a hick and stuff like that. And I was like, this is a bunch of... First of all, Robbie's smarter than all of you guys combined. So, fuck you. But also, one of the things I'm really proud about, and I love about this show, and I think it does something that a lot of shows don't do. We have this cross-talk, you know, between very polar opposites on a lot of issues. And it all works, right? And it's kind of like, where else are you going to find that? I mean, you know, we always talk about like, hey, America needs to talk to each other. Well, here we are doing that. And it gets by sea sometimes. And that's okay. We're still all friends.

8:06And like you said, JT, you come for Robbie, you come for all of us. Yeah, you come for all of us. Free musketeers. In cells. Do they know how much pussy you got? Oh, man. I never... I never want to say that. Can they comprehend that? No. Old women, young women. I don't think so. What's the spectrum? I don't put it... I mean, I always think that. That's my first thought. It's not lately. I've been accused of being an in-cell. Several times by, like, supposed lefties. I don't say anything, because I'm just like, when am I going to say like, no, I did too. My penis was in many of the genus. And it's like, no. And I could do it again now. But I want to do right now on the air. But like, you know, it's like, I'm not going to do that. It's like, whatever. I mean, I think it reflects on now. That's where they go instead of, you know, being able to defend their ideas. You're the point. Like, they're doing what Robbie did. They're Robbie name-call. Instead of using, instead of, instead, but he did express himself. But he named-call. The name-call is cheap. That's what they're doing. They're name-call-ings. Because they don't have to be- That's what they're doing.

9:07It's because the reality of it is what she was, for one, I may love a woman. I've lusted over Kaja Kala's. I call her dumb because she's dumb. There's nothing to do with her being a woman. That has everything to do with her being dumb. They're dumb men also. And I could give you a list of them. I'll have to call them any dumb. It's not about, right, of all the attacks. This is quite possibly the dumbest. The reality of it is she, her issue. And I think what it boils down to is you were asked questions on the topic of your subject matter expertise. Yeah, it wasn't an ambush. It's not like we brought- You know, I've been ambushed where it's like, I'm brought onto Fox and I'm told I'm going to talk about one thing. And then like we don't talk about that at all. She said something that I responded to because it sounded a bit off the rails. That's all. And again, when I said off the rails, she could defend the point. I just wanted to clarify that. She could defend it. She could have just answered it and then moved on, right? Like, don't move on. Yeah. One thing I will say to you about you

10:08so that it's supposedly being an in-sale, you're the only male podcaster on the internet that I know of that has a running spreadsheet for appearing topless live. If there's another one out there, I do not know who this person is. That's true. That is true. People want to enter your bamboo. $4,971 to go. Yeah. Yeah, I think we're going to have to. Yes, we're going to have to. But I don't want to sit around and comment on this. Yeah, it's just not. It's just not. I just, when I finally read the public, it's not going to be enough. It's also funny. She said, she said online, like, oh, these guys seem to be obsessed with me. And I'm like, she's like, and I've watched all of their shows since then. I'm like, who's obsessed? I mean, look, we should, I mean, I think we're all three kind of incredulous. That's kind of like, that's what it finds in fact. That's what makes it fascinating. Yeah, it's fun to. Hey, I don't, I have, look, it does a Ricky Moody episode. We're Rick Moody. We're Rick. It was pickle Rick. And he took the head of a rat. And he said, I'm not even going to remember your name.

11:08I'm not even going to room period and distinction feed. You're just a rat. You might be a big rat for these guys, but to me, you're just a rat. It's like, this doesn't really matter. No. It matters in as much as lack of a better term content. Interesting. I'm rages. Well, I mean, I'll tell you. I mean, before we move on, guys, I mean, I'd love to hear both of your thoughts about this. I mean, the thing is, I thought this was kind of interesting in terms of like, in a side way, it's kind of, it was kind of provided me with some insight into the nature of power and leverage and how the left doesn't understand it. So you have these guys who are all a bunch of, you know, hodgepodge of people on the, on the left and you'll run into them on Facebook or whatever. But they are all threatening me. Like, we want you to do this. And like Robbie says, they want me to fire Robbie. And that's no doubt what they want. Out there, fucking minds. Yeah, that's the thing. That ain't it. I said fuck off. That ain't ever going to happen, right? I'm working for you for free.

12:09Right. Right. Good point. So, so think about it. So I want you to fire this guy who is giving you four hours of labor a day. One of these asking returns, people to go to a stupid gaming channel, click a link. Right. I mean, take it. I hope, but which by the way, we hope you do. And I'll put up the link. Sure. But anyway, the point what I'm trying to get at though is, okay, so the nature of power and leverage, right? Something that the left doesn't understand. And the right understands perfectly. Like, okay, so none of these guys can do anything to me. They can't cancel me. They can't do, they can't, you know, take money out of my pocket. They can't know, they can't fuck me. They have no power. They can't fuck the show. There's nothing they can do. They're impotent, right? Actually, they're the ideological in cells here. So the thing is, I was thinking, but on the right, it's not like that at all. If you, they're disciplined, they have, they have power relationships, like, for example, you know, and culture publishes a book.

13:10Well, you know, right wing think tanks buy that book by the hundreds of thousands. And even if they just sit in boxes and they give them away for free, it makes it a book of bestseller. It puts money into her pocket. So let's just say she falls out of favor. Well, with the right, well, she's kind of like, she might not be able to afford that vacation to Malibu, right? I mean, Thomas Massey, right? Like he breaks with the president, you know, discipline is enforced by the right. And he's gone. The left doesn't have those kind of power relationships because they don't do anything for each other. They don't organize. They don't reward each other. They don't elevate one another. And so therefore, there's no way, if you don't, if you don't privilege anyone with anything, then you have nothing that you can take away from them. And therefore, you don't hold any power over them. Yeah, also different sandbox. I mean, they look, the reason Marlowe King was able to make that work. And again, I hate this idea of racism.

14:11It's nonsense. I mean, they keep using black experience as if it's their experience as foreigners. And it's not the same thing. I can't go to Mexico and take on the Mexican experience. I don't live there. I'm not a citizen of the country. They don't have open borders. It's nonsense. It's like, don't give me this nonsense of racism. It's not racism. We're talking about immigration. No country has open borders. And just be clear, there is no leverage. They have no power. They have no control. They're liberals. They're, it's like Marlowe King had the ability to shame the government of the United States because that was his weapon. This kind of moral justice that he was effectively using against the state. Because he obviously didn't have a military. He wasn't going to be able to take down the government of the United States. But the government called himself, all people, you know, equal, etc. And he used that as a weapon. Okay, well, that's not true here. Like shame is not your weapon because nobody cares. There's no right plus where plus there's no shame.

15:13An apology was issued. Like you don't get anymore. John called, John called up Robbie and I and apologized. Well, he apologized to me anyway. I accept this apology. We're done. I'm not going to talk shit about him. I mean, I mean, if I did, I've wanted to continue to talk shit about him. I should have, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I should have not accepted this apology, I guess. And then I was. The point is, that's how life works in a civilized, in a civilized world. You, you know, someone does something wrong. Hopefully they feel bad about it. They take it back. The end you move on. Again, I don't think the motivation, I think the motivation is like, what to do with her just looking bad and can't answer. Well, not to mention yesterday was the pub date of her book. She's probably trying to make a few extra shuck. What is it? Interesting. Yeah. It won't be named from here on out. I'm going to go open the door for the cat. Well, I will go after this. I think that JC, I'd like to get you a trip in on this. I think that probably the biggest advantage of the right has is that for the most part,

16:13we have a sense of humor. Like we're in the left. We're able to laugh at jokes. We're able to, well, I mean, think about it. You know, the, the, the, the Vokeys will come in with their, where they're purple hair and stuff. You're racist, white, primus, misogynist, and just look all stir like Martha Stewart's about to come in and spake you with a paddle. And then you have some retard like me just like, just shut up, heifer. I mean, seriously. And people able to laugh. I mean, it's just how many lefties, honestly, are able to actually laugh at this. That's a serious, I mean, that is a serious indictment. And you're not wrong. They, the people on the left do not buy a large, I don't talk about the lefties like y'all. I'm talking about your won't be social justice warrior white night. I got to defend this for rather people. They have got no sense of people. They're so uptight that you could not get a greased BB up their butt. Yeah, this is the David's pill thing, right? What David should we go and make a joke in everybody? Like a pissed off and it's like, do the joke is funny, it's all hell.

17:14Hard to dare. Well, the thing is too, if like, if a joke, the best jokes make you feel uncomfortable. And, and they're like, holy shit, they went there. Yeah. And if it's like, you know, so like, you know, the liberals just want to feel comfortable. They want to feel self-satisfied. All right, we got it. We're going to talk to your show. Because we spent too much time to show. Okay, so main things we're going to talk about today. Yeah. First of all, you're going to do that. It's more like, anyway, $2.8 billion in bombs going to Israel, because you know, they need more. I guess those Palestinians aren't going to kill themselves. Trump is sending 40,000, 2,000 pound bombs. We'll talk about the details with that. By the way, did you see Tucker Nelson's breakdown of that? Like the amount of munitions we use in World War II, the amount that we use. That sounds good. The breakdown is like 40,000 tons is, like it's unreal.

18:16Well, there's 40,000 bombs at one ton each, right? Well, I mean, let's just talk about it, right? I mean, we're here. So basically, there's a bunch of things that I wanted to unpack. First of all, the nature of the bombs, right? So international, it's so funny, because it's going to like, you know, well, international NGOs are pissed off about one ton bombs and more so than 400 pound bombs. But they kind of have a point, right? So in conventional warfare, a dumb bomb, which is like a non-guided, non-laser precision bomb, but these drop out of a back of like, say, a B-52, like in World War II. That's three or 400 pounds, right? These two, like in 1,000 pound bombs are not 3.5 or whatever. They're not 3.3 times more powerful than a 300 pound bomb. They're actually exponential, right? So it's like nine times more powerful, because that's how blasts work. So you know, so you can just do the math on a 2,000 pound bomb.

19:182,000 pound bombs are not used to take out like, a building or a car. They're used to take out like, the block. It's like a blockbuster, like the Brits used to call them in World War II. And they're not really meant to be used at all, according to human rights organizations in densely populated areas like Gaza. So they should never have been sold to Israel. I don't even think Biden would have sold these to them. He would have. Maybe he would have, but the point is that, these bombs are too big, really, for what Israel's quote unquote needs are militarily. And so then there's also the fact that like, Congress is supposed to approve these sales, right? But like, in this, I mean, when you go into the details about how these are appropriated, basically Trump can single-handedly sign off on this shipment of bombs. And then it comes out of the general Pentagon budget. And the only way that the, that Congress can stop it

20:20is with a 2,000,000 supermajority, which is impossible to achieve in this, you know, in this Congress. And they can, they can pass a resolution prohibiting that transfer. So, I mean, it's kind of like, I mean, I would love to see some kind of reform, which we're not going to see, where Congress actually does assume, re-assume the power of the purse that it's supposed to have constitutionally. I mean, $2.8 billion is a lot of money. You know, I know a lot of people, us two included, us three included, who could use some of that money? There's people sleeping on the street. There's people who can't see doctors. $2.8 billion. And I mean, even if he just divvied it up and sent checks to every American, it would be a better use of this money. Even if you burn it on the White House lawn, it would be a better use of the money. It could take on a contribute to greenhouse gases. But yeah, true. But it would still be a better use. True. As opposed to incinerating human beings, right?

21:21Hopefully they would burn that ugly helicopter pat up while they're doing it at the same time. I mean, the reality of it is Donald Trump made more money than this himself over the course of his presidency. Meaning he could have bought these and given it to Israel on his own. Look, I think, from my point of view, these bombs are going to be used for the exact purpose that they were meant. They'd incinerate human beings and destroy any and everything in its wake. Women and children included. Israel is not using, when they're taking down the apartment complexes, when they're bulldozing locations in order to prevent rebuilding of those areas. They're doing it because they want to steal the territory. They want to exterminate the population. They don't care about the number of people that they murder. They don't care about the people who are under the rubble in their apartment buildings that they level or the people who they murder and tense. I would wager to you, they even drop these bombs on tents. Like you're talking about a maniac government that seems to be untethered in regards to the level of mayhem

22:22that it will create with anybody imparting costs. I mean, Iran imparted costs for a while, but should it really be Iran's responsibility to impart costs on Israel for committing a genocide and for continuing a genocide, whether it's in Lebanon or whether it's in Gaza? I mean, it's amazing to me, the world just, and maybe it's not amazing to me that the world just watches. But there's something sad about that. Well, that's usually what happens. You know, and I mean, look, you're kind of alluding to this obliquely, a little bit obliquely. You know, we're not a democracy, right? I mean, like most Americans, if this were put up to a public site, if everybody's smartphones dinged today and said, do you want to send $2.8 billion and 2,000 pound bombs to Israel? I guarantee you, it would fail, right? In a big way. And so, you know, obviously Trump doesn't care. I mean, what are we to make of the politics of this, though? I mean, if you're a Republican congressman or Senator facing real action in a few weeks here,

23:24I mean, you're already scared to death. This is just one more piece of news along with the Fed increasing rates that you just don't want or need. They, and like Trump just doesn't care about what about the fortunes of his own party. They're not scared. They're full. They're not scared of what we're doing, sir. They're not scared. I mean, once they lose a selection, they would get themselves a nice cozy position at a college or a think tank or something. They'd be a lobbyist. Listen, if you tow the party line, even if you get voted out of office by the party line, I'm in the unit party, the Democrat, Republican, industrial, complex. So, as you do that, you are going to be perfectly fine. You don't want for no good thing in this life. They are fine. Sure, if they lose their seat, but they'll make millions. So, who else? Oh, but I think, but see the power of the office is not the money. It's the power, if that makes sense. It's the fact that you can control regulation, control, uh, make bets on things that you yourself legislate on. Meaning it's the control and the power that's in office itself.

24:26I think they want to keep their office. I don't think anybody wants to be voted on our office, it's humiliating. Not to mention you're running a campaign, campaigns by definition, a competition you want to win. No, it's not, also, it's not a sure thing that you're going to land at a sinecure at the product at something tank or, you know, USC or something. Right. Yeah, the office is materially there and current. You have no idea what the future will bring in the case, but I get your point, Robbie. Yeah, in many respects. But I don't think they want to lose their seats. And the reality of it is more food than voting in a lane duck. Meaning the moment the Donald Trump office is like a time he was literally a lane duck one day one. True. I would be care about their fortunes. Their fortunes are not linked to his fortunes. Donald Trump doesn't ultimately care. He's 80. He's going to be dead soon. Got it wrong. From the end of the year. From the end of the year. Right. Right. From my most regards here. And the fact that he's going to be dead soon. And for that matter, that he's going to be out of office soon. What is the case? There's a website that's called,

25:26is he dead yet? And all it says is no. And it will be updated in the moment that happened. And it's like, yes. And it will be there for ever. Yes, we'll be there. But I mean, to your point about having power, yeah, in theory, they do have power. They're elected officials. It's like the president in theory has power. The Senate has power. No, the House has power. But if you just vote the way that your A-pack person tells you to vote, do you have power? Or does your A-pack person have power? Well, you vote the way A-pack tells you to vote. You vote in the military industrial complex. You vote in the way that people pay you to vote. Meaning they're whores. Right. They're prostitutes. Yeah. They're 100% and cheap whores. Yeah, low paid. These are not these are not call girls. These are crackhose. Yeah. I guess my point is so bad. They have power, but they're paid to use that power in a particular way. The reason that they're paid is because they have power to do it. Their power is rented. Yeah. It's rented. And so could they do something different? Sure.

26:26But they don't really care about us. They don't care. Well, they will. I mean, look, we can see this. I was talking online with some people who weren't kind of getting this, maybe I'm wrong. I mean, it happens. But I mean, it seems like there's, you know, we know, let's just say, I mean, I don't think there's any world that in 25 years, the United States is sucking up to Israel the way that it is now, or maybe that Israel even still exists in its current form. Right. So we know that's the future, right? I mean, so at this point, since that, since that is inevitable, it's sort of like in the same way that we know that oceans are going to keep rising. It's inevitable. We should prepare for it and just be like, look, why are we spending more money on this? It's kind of like, it's sort of like when your car gets old and it's like, you know, oh, you're going to need new struts. Oh, you're going to need, and then finally, it's like, you know, you're going to need a new transmission and you got like thinking, it's probably time to think about either taking the bus or getting a new car.

27:27I mean, we should probably just cut off Israel now, just because it's not going to go on forever anyway. So everything that you spend now is just a waste anyway on a project that is going to go away. There's no point. Donald Trump wasn't elected as Donald Trump was an elected as a person that was going to move us into multiplicity. Donald Trump was elected as the last bashed in or the last defense of hegemony of sorts. And Israel is one of the dogs for that. Meaning the entire point of that particular project is this kind of, I know from Israel's point of view, maybe different than America's point of view, but from America's point of view, we want our proxy in the region that can basically have a Jewish supremacist state that the other Gulf Arab states will show fealty and allegiance to and bin bin before. That's their point of view. And if you look at wars in Russia, the wars against Iran, all of these things are trying to fulfill that particular point of view of trying to hold back the night, go on Maduro in a cage,

28:28going after the Caribbean, going after Brazil and Cuba. This doesn't random. Even pushing Europe to increase its military budgets. Again, Mrs. we want one of our proxies to be able to take on the Russians. The problem is whatever you write on paper is different than what happens in a material world, which means I'm giving some creeds to your point to it. I don't lost this and go away, but that's not the way he's thinking about it. Any more than he's thinking about it in Iran. He's not cutting his losses. He's not cutting his losses in Russia. They're continuing to go. Yeah, the Russia thing is just it's another great example. Let's do some comments since we have them. Let's see here. Just feeling, filming really, the also said that prostitutes can still be FBI agents. Why is that not funny? We will talk about that. Why can't it be FBI agents? I don't think that's what we should be legal. I think women should have the right to control a ton of their bodies. Also, don't see the huge difference between prostitution and porn.

29:30If I'm being bluntly honest. I mean, I know there's a difference in what. But not really. No, there's not really a difference. I mean, I think, look, countries that have legalized prostitution like like the Netherlands have had good results with it. So, I mean, really? Frazel Draperoni to the bovine and he's telling me, I asked a question or two that day. I said, what do you say to an American whose mother was raped by a Mexican illegal migrant a plumber as a six-year-old? What? I mean, I'm not going to answer for that. The question is, is that should they be deported? Well, of course, they should serve their time first. Well, not in her worldview because she's like, oh, borders are fictitious. She treats people to humanity. I mean, we are all the nations don't exist. And just because someone comes across a imaginary line and commits a violent act,

30:33doesn't mean that they should be forcibly removed from place that they broke into. But look, I get it. Like, just be clear, I'm okay with a world like that. It's, but it has to be under different terms. Right. It would be great to just be able to free float into the world. To be into Malaysia, to be somewhere else. I don't need a visa. One world government's for it because all of us are beautiful flowers and human beings. And we're not worried. I would love that world. But we are borders. I mean, it's like, that stuff doesn't happen overnight. That stuff takes pains, they can process of trying to figure out how we get our shit together as countries. That's often, I mean, yeah, you hit the nail on the head, JT. I mean, I think what happens a lot of times with people, well, it's not just a left-wing thing. I pay more attention to what the left does than the right. But I mean, where people try to nibble around the edges of what requires a widespread sweeping reform, a revolutionary change, and they want to just reform. It's sort of like campaign finance reform.

31:34We'll limit the influence of money in politics. Well, you can't do that under capitalism. I mean, you know, money's always going to find a way into the pocket of a correct politician as long as money exists. You know, it's like, oh, let's, let's try it like right now. Let's try to take the sharp edges off the possible threat of AI. But you can't do that under free market capitalism, you know, where we encourage technological growth. I mean, in a state-run economy, you can do that, but we don't have that. And it's just like, you know, to your point, we don't have open borders, right? So under the existing system, look, Robbie and other people who say, like, look, if a crime is committed by someone who doesn't have the legal right to be here, look, it's very reasonable for the victim or the families of the victims to say, this crime wouldn't have happened if this person had not been, you know, allowed to enter and then remain illegally in the country. But they're not mistaken. That's objectively true. I mean, you know, and so, I mean, it's kind of like, I mean, there's a tendency to be,

32:38of course, obviously, you can say, well, illegal immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than the general population. And that's true. But it only softens. It just not, it softens that, you know, that argument, but it doesn't eliminate it because it's still true. This person, if one person commits a crime and that person shouldn't have been, shouldn't be here, that crime wouldn't have happened if they weren't here. Yeah, but the very least one that happened to that particular victim, yeah, and the family has a right to feel some kind of way about it. Yeah, totally. All right, here we go. So, uh, uh, Alexandria Black, Robbie won't even fire you. What a beautiful article five loyal TV between you. Yeah, an attack on one is an attack on all. Yes. Isola Rosa, thanks very much for the $20. Did you guys see the whole Ed Sheeran and Macklemore thing? Thanks for bringing me back. Yes, she talked about that. You let's talk about it and kicked out Macklemore from his tour because he said, free Palestine, please have Karen Kutowski on soon.

33:43I don't know. Okay, so thanks very good. Okay. Yeah, so, okay, so I gotta be honest, I had an entire living planet into this story, but it's been blowing in my news for you or I couldn't escape it. Macklemore apparently said free Palestine on multiple venues. I think it was two different venues. Robert Kraft apparently started pressuring other venues to get rid of him off the show. Ed Sheeran apparently gets rid of Macklemore and then at that point, everybody else that's associated with this set just goes with him. Meaning everybody just says we're not involved. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, Ed Sheeran's own band said we're not forming. I'm solidarity with Macklemore. Yeah, I'm solidarity with Macklemore. God bless. God bless. This goes to your point by the way that you would make that there's a social pressure associated with what Israel has been doing in regards to the genocide. They're not going to get away scat free. They may get away scat free from standpoint of illegal scents currently, but obviously the world feels some kind of way to the point

34:46with they're literally showing solidarity. Everybody's saying we're out. We're out. We're out. And people are like we're not far as we quit. Yeah, we quit. We're not buying your albums. We're not coming to your concerts. We're not doing any of this. If you want to give her to him, fine. You give her to Volos. Solidarity. Just solidarity. I mean, what do you think of the argument that like, you know, musicians shouldn't talk about politics. It comes up all the time. We're expressing. Publicity. You can talk about politics all the time. Yeah, I mean, it was core to their, it was core to their to their lyrics and core to their whole thing. The clash. What's happening brother? Yeah. Or the, I was listening to that. I'm soundtrack the other day. Like meaning that soundtrack is specific to the 60s. Like that is specific to people are getting killed. We're at Civil War. People are coming back on drugs. People are coming back all messed up. What's happening brother? Billy Holiday. Saved the children. Yeah, we proclaim love is our foundation. That's the political. Album. Like the entirety of the album is political and it is fantastic.

35:48Because one of the... Hendrix's, Hendrix's, a national anthem at the end of the stock. Amazing. Just, I mean, artists can be political. It just has begun well. It can't be like the Captain America thing where you get Falcon and Blenny and he's like, you politicians are the problem. This needs to stop. It's like just shut up. Shut up. I hate that. Because that's like so moralizing on the surface of a very liberal thing. Florence and the machines. That one should be a guy and I would worship her as such. And yeah. I understand why people don't. You know, I mean, I understand why some musicians are like, yeah, I'm just not going to go there and I don't want to divide. But you're allowed to do that. You're allowed to do it either way. It's up to you. It's like if you want to have a point of view. Like imagine people murdering kids in mass and it's like, I don't want to touch that. Really? That's the defining issue of your era of sorts. I mean, Brandon, there are many things that may be the defining issue. But this will go into the history books as a genocide by the people who effectively look at this

36:50and call it a genocide in its current day. How do you avoid that? Yeah. But tomorrow, the population of Palestinians keeps going up. How could it be a genocide? Well, for what? I don't know that. That's true. That's actually true. Yeah, I don't think that's true. Yeah. But even if it were true, that's not what makes a genocide. Anyway, yeah. Well, religious communities are typically team Robby and don't abort their children or use contraceptives. So if you're busy and you have kids, then maybe you can't outbreed that the point is, I'm trying to, is that it doesn't take away the fact Israel has murdered hundres of thousands of people using the American tax dollar to do it. And that is the real story here. My message to the Palestinians, keep on screwing babies, have lots of kids. Keep going. It's true. Like intent is what it matters.

37:50I'm committing genocide against the wasps around my house. I'm trying to kill all of them. Now, I'm not succeeding. And they're still, they're still proliferating. But that doesn't mean I'm not committing genocide. I am. Right. Yeah. I mean, we can watch it. Like even having terms like mode of line gets across. We need to murder as many kids as possible to prevent the from becoming adults. Look, Israel's, it's not like they're incomprehensible and what they're trying to do. What they want to do is very clear. When the Biden administration and the Trump administration are bringing up ideas like, hey, maybe we can just deport the population. We can forcibly remove the population like the Nazis was forced to remove Jews from certain areas. Okay, that's for tests. But that was what a government was doing. The starvation, the killings and all this stuff. We were perfectly killed there on what they were doing. We could all see it with our own eyes. Is that like it was being hidden? They were laughing and celebrating. They were in dresses dancing at people's houses that they've just murdered. By the way, it's so funny to be like the Zionists on their socials continue to be

38:53put up video of like people in Gaza celebrating October 7th. Wouldn't you? I mean, I would. I mean, it's like the, I mean, it's like, yeah, you've been treated like shit and oppressed and brutalized and attacked and bombed and treated as a law and to be mowed for years. And then like finally you draw some blood. Oh, or you know, some Muslim celebrated 9-11. Wouldn't you? I mean, they'd be crazy not to. It's just like, I mean, God, it's amazing. The clues. By the way, it's just a reminder everyone. A week from today, we all go, or is it a week from today? Maybe it's a week from yesterday. We're going to have Ben Moser, the author of anti-Zionism, a Jewish history. JT, if you didn't get the e-book, the publicist sent it to you, I think about a week or two ago. Check it. You should have it in your email. But anyway, it's a good read for sure. So well, and you know, it's basically, I mean, it's actually shocking. You come out of it basically.

39:54Not only is anti-Zionism not anti-Semitism, actually anti-Zionism, anti-Zionism kind of promotes anti-Semitism and is anti-Jewish as a religion. Zionism is. Zionism is an apostasy. It goes against Judaism as a religion. And it's kind of, I mean, the details of it are fascinating. Rathachipero hits this on the head like nobody's business. And it's like, you come away thinking the same conclusion. Zionism is not commiserate with Judaism. It's the opposite. It's kind of an enemy of Judaism. Yeah. It's an apostasy, I think, is the best way to put it. So all right, so let's do some more comments here. Maclmore got 1 million new subs on X, says PW Walker, while she were in lost 150,000 in a debt. Good. God bless. He can't assume it's just asking her audience, his Crown Heights brainiac, to boycott the last three Shereen concerts because of Robert Kraft.

40:58But it should. I mean, he doesn't even have a brand at this point. So. He can do, he can do acapella. I think I should have this. Yeah, he'll do acapella. It'll be great. Yeah. It's a lot of though acapella. Green, when a live streamed genocide brought on Zionists is the nascent issue of our being apolitical. It is the equivalent to being silent. It's unacceptable, but Ed Sides with neo-Nazis in Ukraine. So he is like, yeah, I saw that. Yes, yes, yes, he does. Or yes, he did more accurately. All right, I think it's time to go to our FBI. It'll probably be reality. Tell me about the video. Robbie, please do the interview. You got to see that video. Please tell me he has the video. Robbie, please kindly bless us with this. Here we go.

41:59What about the beach reality? Same thing because the regs wrote it up in a fashion before I arrived that address prostitution, beach reality, and trafficking. They were there before I got there. They were telling me what it said before. It automatically disqualified any individual who participated on either side of it. Obviously, we're never going to hire the criminal. The shine of the beach. The beach reality? Yes. So you just qualify on the animal? Wait, wait, wait, wait. Can we follow that? Wait, we got to pause that. Wait, there's no way I heard that. I was like, what is what is what is he mean? And what is the prostitution? He meant like in prostitution, he meant like the John or the Hucker. Right. Right. He's talking about the personality. I can't even say what you mean, the animal. You only have the victim at that point. Right, the animal is the victim. The cow. Bear in mind, we're talking about hiring FBI agents.

43:00Right? Like an RFVA agent. This is Agent ArtVar. He's awesome. Right. No, clearly the heifer was hardy to the arrangements. So no, clearly, no, I'm standing by the back of the heifer. That's the thing that the cow did next and be fucked, right? The beach and we don't know that. Hold on. You're the cow. Do not divide cow. The cow cannot provide consent because we can't. The cow. The cow. I mean, that cow could have had a page on only hoops. But that cow had sexy lips. It was accent for it. Oh, God. That's so wrong. Oh, wow. I can't believe this is real. All right. Keep going. Like, you have to place in a sitting here. No less. Well, he's talking to the FBI director about agents. Fucking animals. It's on the record. I don't know. I'll tell you some seaspan. That's where we're watching. All right. Keep going. No, I ain't. But we're not going to describe. I understand. I'm trying to understand why you did this.

44:02This is not directed at you, Mr. Direct. And I understand the game. People try to make you look bad. We do the same thing with an other party. When the other party's in office. And all this stuff is really hurt to FBI. It's really hurt to FBI. So I'm trying to get to the bottom. What happened to you, Mr. Berthman? Why would you? Why would you, in light of the context, and what we're going through, and we're having tough time attracting agents, good quality agents we all can trust. True. Because so many people, fairly or unfairly, think that in order to be an FBI agent now, your political point of view matters. Why would you even get in to be stabbed? We are not in to be seen as individuals.

45:03I know you're not. But you changed that. You changed. But I'm trying to explain it. Hang on. You changed the qualifications and mentioned media. We're getting into it. If Joe, if Joe participated in B. St. Yeah, not as the animal, but as the human. Don't you like he already qualified? If he voluntarily did it, sure. But if he was trafficked into it, he would be involved in it. What? And a lot of these cases, when human traffickers, who are some of the worst individuals on planet Earth, they don't just traffic you for prostitution. They traffic you for degrading acts of all kind, and they force you into that type of conduct. And some of these individuals would go on to be law enforcement officers who qualified to be law enforcement officers and later applied to the FBI. I mean, this didn't, this, these changes. We just got through. You just got caught. They think they're making a very big point. Put it on the line. And you're leading with this. Like why are you leaning into this? And like, and he even makes a point of saying, why would you lead with your chin on beastiality?

46:03I mean, ask them, why would you get into beastiality? He's like, well, wait, wait, wait. We're not going to be in the alley. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. Cash, cash, Patel drinks a lot. Anything can happen, you know? Or they said he was sober enough. When you're forced, when you're forced, you put to the wind and you know, you got to put your mom goes, like, your body. Yeah, you've just come off to Bender. And somebody says, what about the beastiality? What? What? You know, a lot of those canine units in law enforcement, you know, you got to watch out. What's wild about this? I thought to myself, how many people does this apply to? What does the law enforcement say? What do you know? Trafficers, grabs somebody, forces them the fuck a goat. And then the eight person, once they get out of trafficking, they decide they want to be in law enforcement. Which can kind of make sense. It's like, you've been moving, and you want to go after the grief. And it's just like you're catching. I'm not going to spend that much. But I kept thinking to myself, what's the percentage? Well, I want to know. I want to know. I think I'm going to say that this never happens.

47:03Okay, I mean, like, what's the profit model for beastiality trafficking? I mean, okay, I understand the prostitution one. But that's easy, right? But like, you know, it's like you kidnap someone and you use violence to force them to have sex with men. And then, you know, you charge the men. And okay, I get that. Who's paying is the goat paying? I mean, who's paying? Like, do people pay to watch? That's cool, I understand. People pay to watch. Yeah, I see. I don't know what that is. Like, it's a call bullshit. And the room in a mattress, that somebody getting on with a goat. Also, who's the one that's getting on with the goat? Is it like, are they trafficking men to get on with goats? Or women to get on with horses? The question I wouldn't know is how many guys, how many FBI agents are recovered from beastiality trafficking? That's the point they got me. Has it ever happened? Because that's Kennedy's point, right? It's like, why are you leading with this?

48:06Like, why? Let's say there are two people that this applied to. Sad Dave, those two people. Sure. I'm sorry. Just sad Dave, I'm sorry. I know it's been unfair. It's been unfair that they force you to for it. The fuck goes. It's what affair that we are not allowing you to the FBI. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That headline is not being written if Jamal Thomas is the director of the FBI. Right. I mean, I guess. I mean, OK, so I've often thought that like, I've said this to people that I was broken by abuse as a child personally. But I feel like I'm a broken man. But I dare say, as broken as I am, I don't think I'm as nearly as broken as I would be if this fictional goat trafficking, goat fucking trafficking ring were to have forced me to go balls deep into a goat, right? So I think maybe I'd be too fucked up to be a to be, to be, I'd be too insane in order to be an agent.

49:09Maybe I should not be hireable. Maybe I'm psychologically damaged. Ted, no, I've got it. And actually, you're the one who came up with a theory. It wasn't me. We all know that JD Vance is a werewolf. That's true. We know this is a fact. No, it can. So if you procreate what a werewolf is that bestiality? Because listen, he has a wide. Well, it depends. It depends up. It's a full moon. Well, and they need to join the FBI. That's the part. That's right. That's right. They're open to wait for the kid to join the FBI after it. What's that word for in viral fissom, like like, like, standard fissom or something like that? I have no idea. But maybe werewolf is your real thing. Maybe that's really what this is all is coming from. Or maybe it's a way we can hire Israelis who rape prisoners of dogs. Well, that's true. We could have, I mean, that's true. Like maybe, yeah, we could hire Palestinian victims. That's okay. That might be the relevant thing. All right, let's watch the rest of this video. Is there anything that more to it or is that it? Yeah, let's watch more. Let's watch the rest.

50:11Robbie, you're muted. You're a mutified. Hold on. I'm retarded. Let me see here. Okay. There we go. Hold on. You saw it funny. What, what, what, and when you saw the bestiality, I say this with respect, the person who recommended it, why didn't you just say what planet did you parachute in from? Why do, why do I want to leave? Well, that was my initial. Why do I want to leave with my chin and get in the bestiality? That was my initial response center. But they then explained to me and showed me cases in which people were forced into it and had applied to the FBI. And so I saw they should be considered. It's not an audit. It's qualification. That's all. Okay. All right, I think I understand. But you're not telling us today that if a human being had sex with an animal, that they can still be an FBI agent.

51:11Or a fungus. No, they can't be. Can't they cannot? In fact, they ought to be in jail, right? They all are. Yeah. Well, tell a lie under oath there, right? Because he did say like having sex with, even if you were forced to do so, you were compelled to do at the force at the point of a gun. You saw it sex, right? So he is saying that there, you can have had sex with an animal just that like if you're the animal rapist, then that should be held against you when you were brought for the FBI. And how do they even have evidence that the people... I don't know. Right. Do they check your genitals for animal DNA? What do they do? What do they do with scrapin' there? Like, I think there's like wild boar here. I don't even know how they would know. Like so the person, so what, the person gets caught having sex with an animal. And then they say, well, wait a minute, that's force.

52:12And then they say, I would patch in burning patch for the FBI and for law enforcement. I've no idea how to have that work. It's delighted to intertertales. Cause whenever you go through, you have to apologize. One of the questions I'm gonna ask you is, have you engaged with the mentality prostitution? I knew it sure I fucker. Well, that would probably be difficult, but a goat, a pig, a horse. That's what got her into the ladders. I mean, cows, that's a popular choice. But I mean, there are options. You have variety. Diverse is an hour. Well, when I was at the elephant sanctuary, I let a giraffe take food out of my mouth and our mouth touched. Would I pass the ladder? Yeah. Right. That's a good question. I mean, so there was an article in New York magazine a number of years ago where they interviewed some guy anonymously, of course, who of course was German. And he claimed to be like a horsefucker

53:14and that he would like sneak into people's barns and get, he brought his own like ladder or bucket and he would get up behind the horse and fuck the horses. What? Yeah, you can look it up. And I think you're gonna do it like this. Fucking Germans. Fucking Germans. Fucking psychos. So anyway, the point is that dude, like so he was, he claimed that it was consensual because he would like basically the horse, the mare would like back up on him. And like, and like that's how he knew it was consensual. It's like, oh dude. I told this story before, but I had a, I had a relic. An in-law, cause, like I guess she would be a cousin in law. She worked at George Washington University Medical Center, ER and I asked for wild stories and she said, one time a guy came in wearing a trench coat and when he took it off, he had been fucking his cat and a cat was like locked onto his penis. And then I said, oh my God, what did you do? And she looks at me like I'm an idiot and she goes, well, what do you think we did?

54:15I go, me? I would have, if I were there, I would have taken him back behind the hospital and shot him and dumped him in the medical ways. But I'm sure that's not what you did. So what did you do? And she said, oh, we gave him a muscle relax and we gave the cat a muscle relax and because they have like spines in their genitals that like clamp on. That's why cats make so much noise when they're copulating. They're like, oh yeah. So anyway, the point it was gnarly and I was like, did you get to go home with his cat? And she said, yeah, I think so. I'm like, oh. He took the cat home? He took the victim home? Yeah, he took the victim home. I think he should be, honestly, I think he should be in prison for like every lifetime. I mean, like I never want him walking the streets at all. Or maybe he's now at the FBI as a senior agent. Oh, right. I don't know. You got a vibrant career. I mean, okay, so look at, I mean, what is this about?

55:16Like is this about bureaucracy gone wild where you have to cover for every little thing? Or is this, and also like what is about, like, I mean, Kash Prattal, I mean, he should have just, I think at a certain point he should have just refused to answer these questions. I mean, it's sort of like, this is just so, like, it's so undignified. It's the United States government. It's under oath. It's on Capitol Hill. He's talking to a United States Senator. I mean, what the fuck? I mean, you know that like Putin's laughing his ass off right now. Right now. Can you imagine, as strong as this way, this video is going to be played in Iran and in Russia. Oh, yeah. On national television, like, in the auto loop. It's like these pages are fucking animals. That's what they're playing. He's an air-concredible. They hire animal fuckers to be FBI agents. Epstein class and the animal fucker class.

56:19It's true. Oh, God, man, I don't know what this is. I honest, the guy don't. I don't even... I mean, it's awesome. I would not have even done this as a FBI director. I just wouldn't have done it. I wouldn't have done it either. I think I would have just been like, you know what? You know, as woke as I am, I'm willing to discriminate against individuals of B.C.L.A.L.E. trafficers. I'm willing to do that. I'm willing to bet that if we invite us someone on and they have a tape and they're selling a book and you're trying to be a very gentlemanly and have a nice interview with this person about their book. And they start talking about how it's okay to get the B.C.L.A.L.E. that you would probably crucify that person on a barn door. And that would be a beautiful thing to see. That's the tape like cats. Yes, you agree. Oh, don't be fucking with my cats. Magnetin has a great question pertinent to this.

57:19Thanks for the dollar, by the way. The real question is, who made a goat who pimp instead of buying a goat? Why rent one you could own? So true. You can just own the goat. And then when he gets long in the tooth, you can eat him. So everybody gets hungers like, all right, Stella. One more question. One more one more topic, kind of related sort of not really, but ice, the US government we know has been hiring, ice has been hiring all sorts of unqualified mooks, goons, random idiots, people who've been fired from, to be fired from the American police force for being too violent. You have to, that's saying something. And, but these are the people who ended up going getting jobs at ice. And now, a lot of, so quietly, ice has been firing, a lot of the people that they just hired. They offered kind of people who would not ever have been allowed back in law enforcement, sort of a second lease on life.

58:20And now the rug is being pulled out from under them. And some of them are starting to, are so desperate now, because they thought their life was back on track, that now they're committing suicide. So, I mean, you know, I, I don't normally have sympathy for anyone who would enlist in ice. But I just think like, it is a, I mean, I mean, you should know one should. It's inexcusable. But it's, I mean, it's kind of like just a reminder, right? Like, ice officers are evil, but the government that hires them is even worse. Because they're feckless. They hire you to do their thuggery. And then when they're done with you, they throw you away like tissue papers, just like a military veteran. Yeah, but they were willing to do the thuggery. I mean, this is not like a military, but, maybe it is, I mean, yeah. Yeah, they're volunteers, it's just the same thing. The sufferings in a field is the difference. I don't know what, I don't know what, but how is there a difference is the same thing?

59:20I think, because I don't think the military, look, I think if you're in special services, special forces, like Delta Squad and all this stuff, okay, these people have the screws. I mean, and I don't mean that in a horrible sense. I mean, that just in the shit that they're willing to put themselves through in order to get that level of capability. And then of course, they use the capability of the Dukebury bad harm. I don't sense the military that way. I think many people join the military because I think it's like a job. Like, it's not a job, but they think of it like a job. Like they go to it. And in fact, half of the military budget that we spend is paying soldiers. Like it's not even the murders, it's paying soldiers. So many of those people take the job, they're sitting in Los Angeles, they're sitting in San Diego, they're sitting in Ohio, they're sitting in Japan, they're sitting wherever, and they never see combat. And they never will see combat. And they would leave the military and go about their life. I guess I'll make you the point of saying, ice, those people are joining it. Many of those people have screw loose. Screw loose is in general. And they're doing just horrible things

1:00:21to the population in the United States. Some of them honestly, just view it as a job too. It pays really well. I suppose it does, but it gets, the reputation of ice is very different than the reputation of the US military in the way that people see it. Maybe this is my own consumption and maybe I need to think through it, but I feel that there's a difference. I'm having a hard time articulating a feeling, but I feel like there's a difference. Yeah, well, the propaganda machine is much more efficient when it comes to ice. I mean, to the military. It's like, it's rich white and blue. You get marinated Arlington, you're defending American freedoms, blah, blah, blah. Ice is more like, this is your opportunity to go pick up a nanny and beat this shit out of her and put her in a cage before you deploy. And it should point out, secondly, so in life, because they were too valent in the regular jobs that they were doing before. I'm less, I gotta be honest, I'm less sympathetic, even though maybe I should be more sympathetic. I always want that these are people. I just, you know, I'm always going to be the worst people over the government, you know. Yeah, even when they're bad people.

1:01:22I mean, any organization that hires one group to go and beat or kill another group, you know, which is worse, the people who hire, other people who actually, yeah, the hires, yeah, but those who are hired are also assholes. Right. Yeah, both are pretty bad. Robbie. Yeah, not, I was just, just a big thing for her. And when we're talking about it, I was talking to them, I said, instead of joining up to be a mercenary for Israel, if you really want to defend the United States, I would make a better choice because the pay is going to be better. You're not going to be shipping off to some God forsaken place, 5,000 miles away from home, fighting people who do you mean you know harm, who've never hurt you in any way, shape or form. You could at least make a case that is true in enforcing American law. So if you got a drug mark, yeah, we got it, we got it. We got it. We got it. We got it. We got to wrap. Thanks so much, everyone. We will see you guys tomorrow, Thursday, 9 a.m. to 10 a.m. tomorrow.

1:02:24Robbie, thank you so much. Thank you everyone for tuning in. See you soon. Well, no, right. Oh, no, no, no. Oh yeah, we have the, we, we were going to combine the Q and A, oh yeah, that's right. Well, you know, Q and A show, right? See you at noon. Yeah. All right. All right. 12 noon. Bye.