Bechoros 13

0:00You're at Gimmel Eilith, I was began to mean theível As we see sometimes Now we have to speak There are Jews who go to country and cartridge it the already chosen Down fell SoUND I cow to the guy or a mischta te flay some sort of partnership between the two of them or of a Kaplan menu. Bandoe is in Leibbacabala or there's a busy arrangement or one of them is working it and the other one owns it and all those cases if the animal has that first born of it putter from what? From what a Jew would normally have to if it was the Jew's animal entirely which would be B'chera the special holiness of that first born Shinemar. Why is that? Well because the pussic itself qualifies the issue of first born holiness one word biggest role amongst Jews

1:02which we understand to mean a darshan to mean of a Leibbachera not others. Other words has to be 100% Jewish owned animals to even be shayikh to choose us of the first born select the cow or the sheep has to be Jewish owned. Period. Haqqaihan and Velaviim the conumen leave him Khayyavim they actually would have to take the first born of their animals and treat it a special way. Now they kind of like off the hook for these things well some yeah but some no shaline ifhtero mi b'chor behematahira that they're not off the hook if they own a bunch of cows or sheep and they give birth to babies first one they have to get the b'chor. Not seeing what they're off the hook from Elimi Pijana Ben first born boy baby the unrestory demon and Petra Khamar they also don't have to worry about the first born of their donkey. Says the Gamara okay we finished the first

2:03parac we just started the second parac why is it my area what's the enlightened reason to Tani Uber Khamar liberation the first parac dealt with first born of a donkey Vahadr Tani and then here in the second parac it started talking about Uber Puraça first born of a cow. Listen to the biratia why not first teach the issues related to first born of a parac a cow decoosa gofu the first born of a cow actually has to go through the goflik itself and it's brought as a carbon the hudder and then after you finish that listen to let the mission of the teach things they have to do with the machinayis and misachismehairis that is teach about Uber Khamar ii the off-string first born of its of a donkey decoosa is don't it it's got holiness but it's got like a lower level holiness so what you think that the first thing discussed would be that with just a higher holiness and this only has value on it since you can't offer a donkey as a carbon so I'm reading my rava they would answer this out west in eriches royal either one of two approaches

3:07ii baisaim i squiggle on the ii baisaim this is number one ii de khavivo lay keder panina either you could say well there's like a certain like special unique desirable issue related to petra Khamar because like uh rib paninaid said um what's the difference between first born donkey decoosa animal and like first born horses and uh camels which don't have it and we saw that over there i think that i come back and duff hayvy baisaim alternatively as we love any baisaim up uh number two ii de zutra ni lay debaimits mea since all seven done the total number of mischniyas or halok so we have to learn about a petra Khamar is a lot less zutra means like little since little or not many are the issues related to bhaimits mea the uh i guess the kampai rhaibu da nasi and those who put together mischniyas felt posic vishadi law they they sort of like almost like there's a lot less to say about it so start it get it over with and then almost like

4:10get to the bulk of the issues not that one's more important than the other but just there's a lot more to talk about when it comes to the uh before of a kaurashik period i'm gonna get some more naxmenia my raishlokishan raishlokish me shum revashian circled revashio he's gonna make two points over here and then we're gonna deal relatively extensively and until the bottom of the umut with those two points so the first point is i call this number one those about alaym yisrael shunosan masla eva kikhaven bebe he masai okay a juu paid let's say a thousand dollars to a gui for his animal and he's doing that at the overall deal was bidineum according to their laws we'll see what that means um alpishlok mushaf even if the juu has not done a mashiha which is a way of acquiring something like pulling it towards you kana he acquires it if the juu then acquires it hi eva sir bhikhaven given

5:12birth before then the first uh after this birth to is khaidukha's bhikhaven kama and number two aivid khaven shunosan masla is filled with bebe he masai the other way around skirakums and pays a thousand dollars to to mashi for mashi's animal bidineum according to their laws that clear what the there is who we're referring to but according to some set of laws alpishlok mushaf kana even though there hasn't been a mashiha there's been an exchange of money still no mashiha but yet the kining is done who puttler i mean number kaira now since skirak so to speak as the owner of this animal when it has its force first born well it would not have to speak or because only jewish owned animals are sure i have to introduce this before period amar mari vectored the amar mari i put a number number one in the margin this is where the gammars are going to deal with the first statement and about ten lines later last one line is amar i put a roland and world two and infected that amar mar let's go back to the first amar mar amar mar we go back i guess to the first

6:16penerva she had said let's quote it yes for all she knows some moys of the chavren jew gave money to the guy bidineum according to their laws alpishlok mushaf even though he the jew didn't do the mashiha kana he's acquired it vechayevs vechayra and he has now the responsibility that if it's the first one he has to deal with it properly first question my bidineum according to their laws who referring to so colon e name my specul underlined bidineum de gufay if the laws are talking about is the laws of like people themselves like diamond jews themselves does the pekava climber that we could learn from a kova climber in gufay kani lay yasrowel becassif if the actual body is able to be the body of a guy is able to be owned by a jewed by

7:18a choir by a jew using money deceive like the pussich refers to when they had human ownership of slavery says luresh as ahuza for a familial ancestral holding hekishakas of lahuza the pussich equates it with an actual like physical holding like an asset holding mahuza niknis bekesas just say i can buy something that you own like a movable using money and i don't like bekesas of sharn khasak and also document or khasakaf evid kani so to if you own a evid kani slave and i purchase it from you the act of me giving you the money would cause the clenching of the deal that now that human being that slave is mine ma main naile kalshakainhu like all the more so if it's somebody's assets so then one second if what we just said alain go is correct him kane f you little bit shtar vahazaka nami well one second if that's the case that kessah works because but we also had in that same

8:20that a sharsha work and khasakha sharaitha oh eyed he's throwing me his throw yohiqul well kane shi disproved that or showed at that point is invalid de gufay kani lay bekesaf ma main naile be mishiqa ala so i schooled in the yellow and double underline abay ala marabay we're not gonna understand that dine him word as meaning something else their laws is referring to jewish law but the name is shepasikla hentair we're not talking about some gentile core we're talking about the way that the bashtin jews bashtin will pasken halacha so you look at the khamish for that says the pasak oh kano yiyadami sakhah if you purchase something from the hand of your co-religionist in other words fellow jew so if you're a jew and you want to acquire something from another jew miyadami sakhahudu mishiqa so taking it from his hand to your hand

9:22is a k a mishiqa you're like pulling it away from him if i say it's a cow and pull it away from him that is a mishiqa natsuf maishis doing it from shlomi haam yadavikha david if maishis those acquiring something from sketer tug the guy it would be only be kecif the word has three questions which can ask on this approach as well as the robin or watsu approach qaima put a diamond around this faima a line in three words later is another faima that gets a diamond and another line in three words later is another faima so three quick faimas faima why not say miyadavikha khaven khal khalo i maybe the proper duks make for that pasak is yeah you can acquire something from the one jew from another jew but a jew from a guy maybe that's a work it all in other words like of course it can acquire from a guy but you like i have to actually bring the item or whatever it is in the jew that means that into his rishus just merely doing a mishiqa and some no man's land is not going to necessarily work i'll read so we answer those things that i

10:23think you wouldn't consider that as a possibility because it's a kawa khaima in kufa khaima in my local shagane if i can actually acquire sketer himself like as an evit and certainly i should be able to acquire a asset of sketers faima so how about this a diamond around the faima vaima miyadavikha khalo if you're trying to acquire something from the guy adi ika tarti maybe you need both maybe the mishiqa and kassif uh no that can't be either i'm really answered for laf khalo khalo maruhu guvwebachas if i can acquire like the actual person the guy himself using one of them my mind i wish tamed to make any sense that something is like secondary to that person it's just an asset of its i would need both of them like both kassif and mishiqa and thirdly veima put a diamond around this veima ayi baha ayi baha well maybe it's either this one or that one maybe either mishiqa or kassif well no you know why that's not the case is dunya de amiseqa similar to when way she deals with shlime is when way she deals with sketer and i was similar to your

11:27mom he's out just like your fellow jubihada one of the ways of the way it works out for gikhav and namibihada so by a fellow jub mishiqa is what works by a jubih magei kassif is what works okay am armar i don't know land the am armar put in the room and the matu in the margin this is the second statement that was made by revah ishya up above so evika babu shunasan maisli ishra alif you have the guy who gave money to the jubih bebe he maasai for his animals the jubih basically is something that's animal for guy beddeenne hema going to favelaas abubishulay maashach kind of even though there hasn't been any mishiqa just the transferring of money it works with putrimin waqaira and now i guess it works and now it's jantalon so then the first born wouldn't be shayah because jantalon first born is an animal don't have any kadeusha okay once again we ask might biddeenne and when you say according to their laws whose laws so elay maisli lana me lay

12:28maiddeenne and gufay if we mean is the laws of the way a jubih deals with the body of a goi the way a goi deals the body of a jubih that's what we're comparing it to we should be kava climber you could learn that from a kava climber colon im gufay shaliyas roel khanilay bikassif if sketer is able to literally like acquire the jub using money where we know that a guy can acquire jubel to save the positive self mikassif mik nasi from the money that was used to acquire him then by might know the kosher king although more so if it's merely an acid of his yasroel mi isroel irri huk actually no just look at the relationship between maishin shlime and i don't shut light on things the gufay khanil maishin can acquire shlime as an event using maanima my name is michi and his assets were acquired with michi hella so once again we have a bayou comes in i screw one on the yellow and double and

13:32on a baye bedinean according to their laws means they're the jews like jewish law the pascalant that's tarra leads us to leader lives pasac says when you sell some sort of item to your core religion is that equals that michi hella the michi hella right so to your core religion is the words in other words jew to jew michi hella comic actor halloween kehave masvidya halloween which is kassif money is that what country's the deal with the guy three veaimas when we put a diamond over here aligning two words later another veaima line one more later another veaima same veaimas here veaima maybe livin kevham khal khal why maybe maybe that's a work maybe a jew can sell something to a guy almy answer love khalvehheimer who no no it's definitely khalvehheimer that for sure he can't because gufay khanil if he could the sketer can acquire like maishin actual guf like maishin himself not mind of the coach game certainly nasty to maishis could be acquired also by

14:34goa aima put a diamond around this vein maa aima livin kehave madli kehave tarti won't maybe yes so if the sketer you need to have both kassif and michi hella done that's just a good more or a clarify support that's not possible because love khalvehheimer who gufay khanil when we start to make any sense that if you want to acquire the actual human being it only requires one of the two but yet if you want to acquire his tea pots it will require two veaima one last attempt i put a diamond on this very maa aima obaha obaha maybe you could do either kassif or michi hella well no that's not a reasonable suggestion because dumya da amiseh one has to be similar to the type of relationship one to the other that would be with jew and fellow jew ma amiseh abahachas just like the fellow jew to a jew is one way no is michi hella is the way that a khenian is a cladish to deal is done af agha kehave me so chuju with gai nami but aachas can only be one of the possibilities in other words we'll say kassif period umri so we ask ummehmer and i

15:40circle the maa i believe it's the two main approaches in soki we had and i'm with all of about three lines before it got wider over aiju we circled and now we're going to circle ummehmer according to a maa damar what does a maa mer hold its unique hella is a michi hella begha kehave me kena oh no michi hella done by agha he would actually yes work haanika i put a trinola sanika and about ten eleven lines down last word sonnoin or the mandamar reing for us the haanika i put a trinola and that i have a series of um clarifications haanika as well there's a maa khala between her and bjokhan or ishlokar so if we hold like he's suffer like ruby ochan and half-batsabirhan what does he hold down our dover tora on a purely torah level meaning like daraisa nathirvanas maa ish kena ish michi hella ikhania that you pace somebody money the deal's done you just like did a michi hella on the item in question while deals not done and therefore ahani is effective the word la amisah i put a quotation marks

16:40la amisah i put a kessah to your co-religious or in other words judy the one another juh money can make the opposition la eva kehave michi hella but the gentel has to be required a michi hella that's a ruby yoyhanan because then we understand what you need la michi hella for el i spill under the yellow ishlok and i have back to kareish lukish that if you hold like that the amisah is michi hella but for asmr oh no michi hella that's clear from daraisa la amisah but michi hella uloybekachama michi hella and therefore you teach to your co-religious michi hella works to the guy michi hella works well then what do you need tell me both then la michi hella lomali let a michi hella sometimes implies that two co-religious but not someone else and implies a difference between like a juh and a guy what do i need that for i'm reasonably answering la michi hella tamasar a noviya tamasar a noli canani a noli to say is a one six price ripoff so if something normalize yourself for a hundred dollars and i sell two for say

17:43hundred and uh... twenty dollars uh... i'm twenty five hundred twenty dollars and that is assuming that is definitely i know in other words you take the hundred dollars divided by five that's twenty at another twenty then so a hundred and twenty is twenty uh uh uh uh uh uh uh is one sixth of hundred and twenty so that is going to be um what do you need then down in michi hella fresh minotaur let me say chlamam michi hella levitakhama michi hella michi hella hella mali okay so if there's a price of skepticism something should normally sell for a hundred and i sold it to you for exactly hundred and twenty which is exactly a price ripoff if the purchaser was a jew that jew would have to uh return the jewer seller to the jewish owner of the amount that was ripped off uh but not to a guy that's what he used it for but you have tamasar a noli canani says the uh... go on one second we know that from somewhere else

18:43the canani to a guy me al-Toy new ishes al-Five at nafba if another person says you can't like take advantage financially and man with his brother i mean his brother is a co-Jewish person but now with a gentile so the humorous ones actually khad be kanani be khad be hektish one zeland with a canaanite one is dealing with hektish bidsry khinyashni both because eqasraq one if the merciful one of the turret only told us the din in the context of one of the mkhad hava meena was that the kanani liyayna for a fellow human uh... who is a gentile i don't know here canani is that probably means good um then there's no i naa of al-Hektish you might have thought if you did something that has to do with hektish there would be i naa kama shmalan then that's not the case continues the come over with another hany khah i put a trance hany khah all as well according to the opinion gizze lai usur basic question can you steal from a guy mkhokis probably the normative Jewish

19:48approaches that no you cannot steal from a guy so the uh... approaches says that stealing from is usur hindered stork problem that's why actually it would be necessary for a possum to come and tell us the mystery i naa that if it was a place for an issue well that not recommend you necessarily do it but if you did it it's okay there's no like serious problem or take back that you need to to uh... worry about a lai school and the a la however if so verla kama dama if we hold the other opinion is that actually gizze lai shal kanani is mutter again not you're supposed to look after you do it but it's permissible after the fact i naa me baya you have to tell me about it like certainly if you can like actually like steal from the guy so to speak definitely can you them all in business for a greater profit margin and lado could but answers of the he s i for the food the money tag looking after user you know what i'll call cop energy are there by the governor be o chnanna suppressed he the question was that and

20:48regional they call and may say now and all of the future of people is circled he holds Every query I use in a guide, Kessef, is that which works to make the acquisition. Maseface, so we now quote it more than a three-line and two-name source. Might indicate otherwise. Says the K.A. Kutoy's, man, we could call him. Let's say one purchases scrap metal from a guy. Well, lots of metal and it's covered, man. Oh my goodness, there's a metal idol in here. Call it, aim, ice, wiggle, underline, the word, aim, Imaginary Nasson Maus, Mausach, if he did a Meshiko first, then has he paid the money? Yacht's here, then return that getch, that idol that you found, that, that, that is, or to the guy, that's just not his yet. Um, he hasn't paid the money. Whereas, aim, ice, wiggle, underline, the, aim, the aim, mission. Also, most of the money started being paid. The Meshiko is done. Yeah, they're done. Yeah, nothing to do. Other than whatever the benefit or the value of this particular idol,

21:49the thing that you found in a scrap metal. Take it and drop it on the bottom of the dead scene in other words, destroy. That's the end of this next search. Now, if you want to say that Maus' kindness, Meshiko, Lamali, one second, if money works, what do you need the Meshiko for? So the question is to approach this, approach A is here, I put an A in the margin, and circle that, mind your name, three approaches, then about eight lines before the N, nine lines before the end of the onward, Aina is the last word of line, I put a B there in circle that an underline, I believe, sort of as she's name on the B in the line. And two lines later, the other end of the line is Ravenna and on Ravenna. And I put a number, well, I guess I'll let her see in the margin. So three approaches, approach A, approach B, and approach C, let's see approach A. And the question really was, if you say that money works to acquire, then what's with the Meshiko, what do you need the Meshiko for? Well, thanks to Kamara, the first approach, I'll call my skin up. What are we talking about over here? Shake, keep a lot of love, log of agony, Israel. Where the agreement between the two and the Janso were that everything's going to go through

22:51like a lactic bastion, whatever the, the rub on and say, Torla is that's what they're going to go with. Oh, one second, he'll give us the case. Moise, Lama, leave him. What's with the money? So the works, my name's Hawking Kamara. I'll fall peace in our son, Moise. What's with the money? Is that this? Even though the money had already been paid, only if E Ma Shaka is willing to run the E, if Meshiko is done in yes, below and if not low, not. Iochio, one second says the more that if that's sold and casha, ratio. And Bay is going to give an explanation as to why that's not an issue. And then Ravas is going to pipe it over. He has to say, so I'm going to buy sort of the Baye, ratio Meshimo to Ika, Macartos. There's some sort of mistake in the understanding of what the deal was and the deal can go back. I'm really Ravas, a Ravas said, I guess to a Baye, a ratio Meshimo to Ika Macartos.

23:52Question mark, say far, like Ika Macartos one day, the ratio. Even though it's a Macartos for the safety, there is no Macartos. And that doesn't seem to be the case. The L.I. scrolling on the L. and the Shrikled Ravas, ratio Meshimo Macartos, both of them are. Ravas, Laius, Laius, Nexi, Ka, Vais, Ka. In a Ravas case where money wasn't paid only Meshiko is done, it does not look like that Getsch Gras Jewish owned at all and therefore that has one roundification. Whereas, say for the Yoyuzuzi where money was given, whatever cash money trades hands people notice it, Meshiko, that kind of looks like Ben. I would have been a choir Ben, did you cover as a club of Yadisraal? Period. Vais, I'm not a Baye's name, I'm a lack of all his response to that. He would say like this, and I double in the line ratio and one line later I double in the line, say for. So ratio Macartos, De la Loiada de la Daha Lo Yoyuzuzi. In a Raysha's case, it's not really known that there's an idol in this graph at all

24:54because it's like no money was paid. Money's paid, you gotta look into the money, you gotta look into the deal, make sure everything is a cash re-ausher, but if there's no money paid, then that is a totally different reality. So Raysha Macartos De la Loiada de la Daha Lo Yoyuzuzi. Money had a debate, we're safe away, double in the line, say for. La Macartos De la Loiada de la Daha Lo Yoyuzuzi. Money was paid, King Kamal Sheikh, he by Leunie, when the Meshiko was done. If he's paying any sort of hard earned cash or it's $5 or $5 million, he'd better look into it for a term, if he's gonna only then do the Meshiko. Ravashi we underline is a, I guess a B approach of Ashyama, that really, it's where even, hey, no, excuse me, except to go to the baston and deal with whatever the rabbis say. And Ravashi, I'm under Raysha Meshiko, aina kaina, say for another Meshiko, aina kaina, you know what? Both the Meshiko's not gonna work. The idea to turn a Raysha,

25:55mashach, and simply for the structural similarity that you wanna keep in Meshinaeus, and the Raysha is the term mashach, I'm not saying for the safe also, gave it's in the context of mashach. Ravashi, who underline is the C approach, says me to safe Meshiko kaina, the other way, the Raysha, no Meshiko kaina, no, no, if it works in the safe Meshio, it works in the Raysha. For Raysha, come run this, it's the way you have to understand the Raysha, colon, in my Nassam, Veloi mashach, Yaksur, that if nobody was given, no Meshiko is done, then you know what? You can back out, one second, my Yaksur, so actually says the, no or no, when it says that term, Yaksur, or with maybe Yaksur, Yaksur bit Varim, the going back here, the changing is changing what one had verbally said. Kassava, that's because we are now of the opinion that Varim Meshim, Meshum, Mishusare, Mana, that if you say something, and you don't keep it,

26:55you're inconsiderate, trust worthy person. However, Hanimili, when is that? Yastra and Meshga, Lajuvana, the Juvana, the Juvana, the Kaimo, Bedi Buraehu, General of a Jusai is going to do something, he does it, Lajus, from over to Khagam, Juh from the Gai, I don't know, the Indulow, Kaimo, they do, Rai, they do not, essentially keep their trustworthiness, Low, that would not be the case, I'd gone.