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Bechoros 14

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Bechoros 14

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Gemara Markings Daf Yomi — Bechoros 14. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.

You tell it I'm a doll if Right at the top line at the new mission there's two parts of this mission This is gonna be you have an animal in general the or the animal can be much this should dedicated to the temple There's sort of three levels of caduce the highest is caduceus of booth that the animal itself Has caduceus meaning like its body itself is cuddos. It was basically dedicated to be brought as a carbon that of course Must be the type of animal that would be fitting for that to be meaning a blemish free animal There's a slightly lower level which is caduceus don't know the miss Bayer where somebody donate something that he wants It's value to be Used for carbon. I guess that's fine. And there's a slightly lower level which caduceus bedic up ice He's dedicating things this given the animals, but he wants it to go for temple treasury funds like for upkeep and Whether what he wanted is going to apply or not so we will see the mission now The mission is going to be cases where you know if an animal develops a moom of blemish

It simply can't be brought as a carbon No matter what the good intentions of the Owner is so I put a Roman number one in the margin here six lines later I put a Roman number two in the margin of a car and let's see the two sides So says the mission a call how could she and I underline forward Shakada moom couple of lactation if First they developed a permanent moom which basically takes them out of ever being able to brought themselves as a carbon lactation and then after that the owner was not the shit. He sanctified it to go to the temple Vinif do and then it's redeemed Okay, so like like from the onset it didn't have a high level holiness So now that it's redeemed and it's basically a cool and animal It really has no residual super holiness because they never got the super holiness because it already had a moom at the time It was marked and therefore now that this redeem chaperubachira if it hadn't had an offspring yet Then it does it would be high of for bachira Well, my tonis Israelachem in Cape has to go and check it to

The Cohen the yoi it's in the chul in the gaza of it and it goes totally into chul meaning like it's a sheep It can be sheared and the shewings are whole and can be worked Vlad and the halavan mutter the offspring that this animal later has and whatever milk is totally permissible Allah happy joy, and of course after it's been redeemed The hasha'it on bechuts is putter and somebody who checks them outside of the proper area is going to putter That's even before their redeemed because even if the moom that they had was like a relatively not significant Moom like a thigh in the eye where if actually we're talking about animals in another scenario that were like proper Cudshin and you shet that then Bachuts there would be a chiew here. However It's patsar because it like never for the onset got any level of caducia whatsoever because it already had its Moom before the ae noisin timura that's the idea of if a person has an animal and it's

Cudshin animal and he declares that he wants the holiness go into some other animal while it doesn't work here Vemesu if do and if these Animals pass away before they're redeemed they are Excuse me be be right before they're redeemed that they can be redeemed even though they're Dead what do you do with them? Well you feed them to the dogs Except for hoods mean up a horror mean a miser Those two if that's the type of holy animal or time a little before Let me get it. There was what the guy said when he said it because that was holy already from the time Was born and and miser The special post of the basically indicates that even if They have something that comes towards the 10th animal in the times that you do once a year Even if it has a moment it gets the holiness and therefore those the two exceptions comma The second possibility which we put a room number two in the margin I underline these five words the hall Shaka demictation is muma now actually in this we're gonna have two scenarios

So let's go like this the hall colon number one Shaka demictation is muma let's say first a person was mocked as them dedicated to the temple And at the time that we're totally fine totally by mystery and then they developed a mume Or even if it's like it's a possibility too There was a mume ovular lactation it had a blemish but had one of those temporary ones and the basic idea if you guys had temporary blemish a person If you might just the animal at that stage the hektish Is good and kicks in immediately when the temporary mume disappears So let's read this again, or it had a mume over a temporary type of mume Before the hektish Conducted a laach army condola lemon puff one after that however it develops a full flesh one bottom line what you have in either Ville scenarios is a Cudshim animal the potentially we brought as a carbon but now has a Permitted mume then if to and then they're redeemed so that whole list up above Is not going to be applicable here because

Here it really was Hektation the kutuzza gufat at certain point and therefore Petun mean a bichero mean a matanais if it's redeemed it does not have to just bechore if it gets worked to a firstborn It doesn't go to the co in this royal time in cape after it's Shafed if a nanny or someone does it love and it never has the ability to just be sheared or worked The lot of mcholavan aster the asterion has later would have her milk if it's a cow because he may not have any female sheep Um it would be aster La carte de janean But shafed ran before c'est chaiiv and if to be shaksome outside The azora before They are redeemed would be chaiiv Um chaiiv here is actually going to be chaiiv kareis Because they had to be fitting to be a broad Inside so Maybe it means malcus we'll see the ice in tomura a declaration of this animal would make another one tomorrow If he may sue yik veru and if they die

They have to be buried and why don't you just like redeem it after died because to redeem an animal You need a mud of a raha and you have to have like a live animal to be assessed and you obviously can't do it if the animal is dead Okay, the gammara is going to go over almost every case in this mission or so here we go Starts with more time and then if to so the reason and the ratio is We saw on the second line second worth it. They had been redeemed first the had a mom then the person was marked to shoot and then he redeemed it The deal could be Atanas if they weren't redeemed then they would actually Be off the hook from Bakhar and matanas why is that well cassava? Let's be the author of the mission of the opinion that caducia's dumb him Mad chameena bakharo minamatana is the caducia's dumb him that they does have holiness It's just its value has the holiness pushes off an animal from if it has a firstborn or if it's slaughtered

And the matanas will not be given to the cahine The next case the mission was to be used to the hulen it goes out to hulen To be able to You shear it. It's a sheep to work it for beast of burden Time and then if to so again the deal would be last because it was redeemed how line if to for wasn't redeemed as you Because about why do you want to be able it would be forbidden to shear or to work it now Similar to what we had said the previous scenario that like three lines ago Should we say missaia later this would be a support to rebelos or don't more what does he say it says country bed to cahbias Even like the lowest level of caducia wears only Codos for its Value that it can be used for things in the temple As soon as he's invited they would be forbidden To shear or to work Yeah, no, I'm really so we say low. We connect into it from here could be caducia's Domim lemis beach if you have a caducia's domim and it's something that theoretically could be brought as a carbon

Who did mechlobacaducia's a couple of lemis beach that's where you can't like that happen because it's too Similar to some of that has an intrinsic holiness for the mees beach and therefore that would be the scenarios where goza We're a bon on the rabbi's applied their decree however this case while country bed to cahbias Where like from the beginning and it was pretty clear that it only had the ability to have its value be holy for other things were needed in the base amig dosh low we wouldn't say that I wish we continued to allow them a little on motor offspring and milk would be permissible now hechi dummy this this offspring What what exactly when did the mother edible become impregnated when did he burst so ee lay my school on the layma De e obir base yallah her pejoin If you had this old incident then it was redeemed and then the mother animal the female animal we can pregnant and then gave birth Well she ta huland in you like for sure that's gonna be the case because it's full-fledged huland um Like why wouldn't be the case in other words it's got to be something else. Ella

I squeal one in the Ella de e obir lift nae piz yoyan They say Allah hape jayno so must be this regular animal it had this scenario where it was ee even though it had a mum the owner of it declared that she'd be go to the base amig dosh when it was in that holiness state it became impregnated however it only gave birth after it was totally redeemed So the obir lift nae piz yoyan The ee seyallah la ah hape jaynan Okay, the deal could be ha lift nae piz yoyan in a seary let's say it was not gonna be a common impregnated when it was in its holy state but also gave birth when it was Holy state before it was redeemed it would be also in which case then it's sort of like a animal that i guess its mother became pregnant when it was a culture animal it's Mother gave birth now by the way the mother wasn't shanith being brought the offspring out like on its own would be but it came from something that was not shayan and therefore we want to know can we redeem those offspring animals nift into me min

oh ain't nift into me min though those those vladois as rashi says maybe yes they can be redeemed now normally we do not take animals that are totally blemish green redeem them what do we say here so tashmah coming here the following three wine today resources pretty clear ha matfis pala moment kru'an the government is back let's say someone has a definite moment their animal he dedicates it to the alter the yaldu and then those mother animals that that devil clearly by the moment give birth yimgaru ve ainsrychin mum the vlad the offspring can be sold doesn't even have to remember shayan actually would double in line the ve ainsrychin mum shayan kadooshachala alayan because the kadooshan the first place doesn't come onto them shalith he tough will come in there because it can't be that the offspring which is that tough will is going to be viewed more strictly or have strict uralakha says then the iqra which is the mother that's in the snake source semi colon where makes a little dewe though time ishli a tough

alchamina iqra apparently i guess the working principle that gets us to a conclusion is that you can't have the secondary thing be more intense than the original thing okay how about this though of al-hiktish zahar le dhamma of let's say somebody was matfisht of the basic mechdish a male uh that was um blemish free but he likes specifically to clear that it would be for its value not for it actually being able to do this itself well you know what too bad the kadooshachakixin and it has even kadooshakishakuch that in itself can be brought as a carbon now that dewe would be a support to missa alayan le rava daama rava rava says hiktish zahar le dhamma even though the person who had this male animal declared that he only wanted it to go to the base of mechdish for its value kadooshachakuch it's the higher level kadooshachakuch because that innate ability can't be taken

away by a declaration of the owner the owner can decide if wants to make a act of shinnatva whether he's made a act of sh at totally blemish free i could definitely be brought as a carbon wish i continued and said how shaythan bechwoods is putter she took them outside of the azar which is a rumor of the big no no here would be putter rebi el azar masni haiyef now rebi el azar teaches it that if somebody shuts one of those bechwoods he'd be haiyef and the haiyef here doesn't mean the stretch points out kara is talking about like malkis but still libel umuki love abamass yohan and he'll say that the case is like where was that that you're shifting it uh you know in a backyard altar which we've gone about three thousand years without having those but there was a period in josh history that even though there was a base of miktish functioning people were allowed to have backyard personal mizbeas the armor of a lasameen is a veaq bhajbha las moom the mama's yohan so how do you know we know the restrictions for animals brought as carbon is in the base of miktish what about animals being brought in abamass yohan and like an individual's uh mizbea

that half moment um hum bishas had their bommas now most of the time in josh history we weren't able to do that at all it's totally us but they're actually a few times into a history um that that was allowed uh by you can't do it with a blemish animal has to be blemish tree but if it's blemish ubalaisas say there would be a violation of a um prohibition of the tyroshan emar pusak says lisa tsubakla shem like kecha shorvisa you can't slaughter her to her shem like kecha shorvisa etc now im aino inion i screw in my main oinion what do we need that pusak for what do we need that phrase for well we don't need it for bama gidolah the main mizbeaq in the base of miktish deceive we have a whole list of things that invalidate an animal from being able to brought as a carbon in the main base of miktish or even called the main mishka but the main bama deceive iverasashavor listen all off in which case in what we would apply this to teneu in

it i squiggle underline the two words neu inion apply it liba masjachid to a individuals backyard alter at a time when they are mutter okay that's how we know it the gomara has four attempts to suggest another lemur that could have made from this a my put a triangle on this a my four lines later second one line is vea my put a triangle around that four lines later second to last one line is a my put a triangle around that and two four six and seven lines down first word on line is masjif in the middle of that line is an a my that could say triangle that would be the fourth attempt and four times the gomara is going to attempt to suggest something that could have been suggested so how about this why not say aima ima ima ima inion look at him if this can't be used to apply the kajim teu inion liba chor how about before and i double on line before and here's like the whole line of reasoning you would have made me be able to say saltize khamina khamina khamina might have thought kuduish kishu hu balas mum like before if you got this before holiness when

it like literally goes through the birthing kind of the mother and and first first born li karay nomi kishu balum so maybe it could also be offered on the attack we make the exception of it being able to keep it super holy saddest then maybe super holy and even offering these beehach khamash moe into low and that maybe that's what it's teaching us but nothing about abama's yalken type kharban some more rejects and says no omri bekhor beehach xivbe you don't need to tell me that by bekhor because it says outright piseach holyeth is by bekhor lows is bekhandu you can't offer it as a kharban the aima put a journalist famous would be the second attempt well why not i don't we just say you may know inion the kuduish kham today we need the maisar and i double on line maisar and maisar is the animals that are tines every year the salt they took him in i might have thought to say and this is all the suggestion of what that could have been darshaned how you'll be kuduish behmumay dixiv since maisar also has this interesting quality that the one

that comes out 10th even if it has a blemish it is going to be kuduish dixiv pasta says loyva kharban tovlerah men rather tithe don't like differentiate whether it's good whether it's bad in here been and this kind of bad means with the with the moon and therefore i might have thought to say and here's the line of thought that we were suggesting kuduish me in the car of nami behmumay hey if i get the soul in this maybe it should be even after that way kamash malan delay that's what we're being told but again nothing about abamashiyah could says the gammara no rejection amri maisar nami gammara vara vara me bekhor so whatever we knew from bekhor bekhor has a word how vara so too does maisar and with her maisar from bekhor third attempt aima put a triangle with aima aima sayo in yinle jemuras kudshim maybe it should be referring to something else when you have a holy animal and there's a exchange with another animal this song deitach amri namay dithat

to say he'll kiduishak shibalasmum since it has that holiness when it has currently a mum dixiv low yaku fendivalo yamiru so you can't switch it you can't trade it crave anami kishibalasmum maybe we'd even offer it as a mum kamakamash malan delay why don't we say that that was the lee mood well the gammara explains why because as rejection amri craw the pausak says the fahayah who utamura say it's literally from the pausak it and it's tamura there by colon makas tamura say equating the twirth the animal to the original animal that try to put this kudshan into it ma who baamumay just like the original animal if the animal you want to work off tamura say baamumay so twirth tamura will not necessarily would that be the case and a fourth attempt masque of the ramsera aima put a triangle of aima sayo in yinle flade's kuchimay double underlined the ladde's kuchimay if you have the offspring of that are baamumay their mother and father

cow or sheep whatever was were totally fine they were tamum but these things were born baamumay that's what are becoming the teachers this is how i think i mean al-hayil so why not say masque aima aima say in the basque kuchimay right saatamay na thought to say al-hayil deushing shayin baamay mumen agav iman because mom was cutish so they're also going to be cutish maybe keshayin baalas mumen nami kar maybe maybe we'll make an exception offer them you never mumen kamashmalan delight so why don't we say that and we'd have to come onto the whole original aima of teneywini libyolmas yohid well here's why i'm a rava for posca tamura baby shmokas we already have a psaak that's not like that as we'll see now in the following to tan maybe shmok the following the three and a half lines in a extorse goes to the two dots rak kato shaha asher yulah u nedare khah all these are that the kuchim are holy temple

sacrificial animals that you have with you and your nidarm so what do we do with each one these phrases how do we darshen it rak kato shaha jandaline al-hayil hohat tamura is why is it like a rak because rak mean like only some sort of uniqueness about it well because they became holy because they had their holiness verbally transferred from the original thing that was holy asher yulah khan jandaline those three words alaw of latais that comes include even the offspring u nedare khah and i know that i know that i know that kushnakas was the nether there is an a similarity between this and a nether man nether balmumlai if you make an edder and you say balmum a ain't gonna work off hane namibalmumlai and that is the end of this in a exorce feena isin tamura my time uh well why can't i make that tamura well damakal the pausa says layak lifanu the loyiamir uh now that uses a number of different phrases but haashtarabatav amrisly so if you're something good excuse me that's something bad says robatavatavira so you're something bad

and you want to switch over something good and you can't do that toybarami by other than if you had something good and you wanted to exchange for something bad like of course that wouldn't work alaw it must be that what we need to learn from this is to me kareos it's more only something that was originally from the outside good that has to be limit tamura ra me kareos in those bad like from the onset aine or you said tamura is not able to make that tamura i'd gone

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